Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
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Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
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Ever use your debit card and overdraw your checking account, only to later discover that the bank lent you the money -- at a fee -- to cover the overdraft?
Do the math. You may find that you paid an effective 3,000 percent annual interest rate on a courtesy loan you never asked for.
Electronic Loan Sharking
Consumer advocates have been calling on financial institutions to address abusive overdraft practices for several years, and now Congress is poised to act.
"I don't know what loan sharks are charging these days, but these rates are probably a bit higher," says Eric Halperin, director of the Washington office of the Center for Responsible Lending (CRL). "They're more expensive than any other financial product out there."
In the old days, banks would deny a check payment if you didn't have adequate funds in your account, and charge a bounced-check fee. The only way to avoid this (both then and now) was to have a backup -- a link to a savings account or line of credit. If overdrafts became too frequent, the bank would close your account.
Fee Overload
Today, debit and other electronic transactions are the dominant form of payment. Rather than deny payment, most banks automatically cover your small-dollar overdraft and slap you with a fee averaging $34 on every subsequent transaction until your account is back in the black.
A CRL study released this month found consumers pay $17.5 billion in fees on abusive overdraft loans. The average overdraft is just $27, and is typically repaid within five days.
"In 2004, 80 percent of banks routinely declined overdrafts," says Halperin. "Today, 14 of the 15 largest banks routinely cover overdrafts. It indicates a dramatic shift in the marketplace." The Federal Reserve allows banks to enroll consumers in overdraft protection programs without their written consent.
Shady Practices
Moreover, banks can legally manipulate the order in which they pay checks and debits to maximize fees. Consider this example: Bob thinks he has $1,300 in his checking account, but he only has $1,150. He conducts six debit transactions totaling $180, and then pays his rent, for $1,100. He's overdrawn the account by $130.
Bob's transactions arrive in one batch at the bank. Instead of paying the six transactions and charging a single overdraft fee on the rent check, the bank pays the rent check first, followed by one transaction for $50. It then provides overdraft loans for the other five payments, so Bob incurs five separate fees of $34 each -- or $170. (Banks reserve the right to pay checks in any order; see, for example, the policy of U.S. Bank.)
Two weeks later, Bob deposits his paycheck, and the bank gets its money back. Bottom line: When Bob pays $170 for a two-week loan of $130, the annual percentage rate comes out to 3,400 percent. (See my blog for details on this calculation.) But the Federal Reserve has ruled that overdraft fees are not considered finance charges that have to be disclosed, a spokesperson said.
Preying on the Most Vulnerable
Overdraft loan abuses fall mostly on the backs of middle- and lower-income consumers with little financial education, like Paddy Page, an Idaho mother of four. She receives no child support from the abusive husband she left six years ago, who's now in prison.
Page, who dropped out of high school but eventually earned her GED, works full time as a bill collector for Citibank, making $12 an hour. With no family nearby, she was on her own after her divorce.
"Once you get caught in the cycle, it's hard to get out of it," Page says, adding that most of her overdrafts were for groceries and medical bills for her kids. She racked up nearly $500 in overdraft fees last year at Washington Mutual Bank -- $243 of it over a two-day period in August, for nine overdrawn transactions.
Sleepless Nights, Tipped Scales
Like many consumers, Page didn't maintain her checkbook register, relying on her online account balance -- which didn't factor in outstanding paper checks. And because Page chose Washington Mutual's "free" checking account, she wasn't eligible to open a cheaper line of credit.
"I couldn't make it. There were times when I had no money and no groceries," she recalls. "I'd go to the grocery store and think, 'What else can I do?' I'd write a check, the bank would cover it, and on my next paycheck I'd be fighting to get back up to zero in my account. I couldn't sleep at night; I was about to lose my home."
Clearly, the consumer who spends more than he or she has is at fault. But the scales may be tipped against them: The Check Clearing for the 21st Century Act, approved in 2004, allows banks to clear checks they receive more quickly than in the past. But the act doesn't require financial institutions to credit deposits any faster.
Page, for instance, says she would sometimes make a deposit and get hit with an overdraft fee because the credit didn't clear as quickly as she expected.
Without Warning
Consumer advocates would like to see banks provide a warning to consumers if a transaction would overdraw their account. Similar technology already exists: When you use another bank's ATM, you sometimes receive a warning that you'll pay a $1 or $2 fee. You can choose whether to pay the fee or cancel the transaction.
A survey conducted by CRL earlier this year found that three-quarters of consumers wanted to be warned if they were on the verge of withdrawing more than they had in their account.
But the American Bankers Association (ABA) says it would be unfeasible to apply the technology this way; it would lengthen transaction times and raise the costs to merchants and consumers. "Consumers are in control of their finances and can avoid overdraft fees," said Nessa Feddis, ABA senior federal counsel, in a Congressional hearing earlier this month.
A Happy Ending
Happily, Page got back in control of her finances with the help of a fellow church member who's a financial executive.
They worked together to create a budget; get on time with her bills; learn to steer clear of high-fee payday loans and check-cashing stores; and pay off her credit cards.
Page's oldest two children are now in college. "I tell my kids all the time that education will set you free," she says. "You don't want to be bouncing checks and always scrounging money just to have groceries. It's ridiculous."
Help on the Horizon
Representatives Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.), Barney Frank (D-Mass.), and Julia Carson (D-Ind.) are sponsoring legislation (HR 946, or the Consumer Overdraft Protection Fair Practices Act) to protect consumers from abusive overdraft policies. The act contains four common-sense provisions to address some of the industry's sneakier tactics. It would:
• Require written consent from the consumer before enrollment in an overdraft loan program.
• Require financial institutions to warn the customer when an ATM withdrawal will trigger a fee -- and allow the customer to cancel the transaction at that time.
• Prohibit financial institutions from manipulating the order of check clearing or delaying the posting of deposits to increase customers' overdraft loan fees.
• Amend the Truth in Lending Act to clarify that overdraft fees are finance charges, so that annual interest rates are reported. This would allow consumers to compare overdraft loans with other credit options -- such as lines of credit, which typically offer annual interest rates of less than 20 percent.
Act Now
In her prepared remarks, the ABA's Feddis told the Congressional hearing that forcing financial institutions to report an annual percentage rate would confuse customers: "In these cases, the fee is fixed, the overdraft often small, and the term of repayment short. It is easy to see how triple digit APRs would result ... In the overdraft-fee context, consumers understand a dollar amount far better than an inflated and meaningless APR."
I think consumers are brighter than that: Given a chance to consider the APR on overdraft loans, they'd understand that their bank has been taking them to the cleaners.
Ever use your debit card and overdraw your checking account, only to later discover that the bank lent you the money -- at a fee -- to cover the overdraft?
Do the math. You may find that you paid an effective 3,000 percent annual interest rate on a courtesy loan you never asked for.
Electronic Loan Sharking
Consumer advocates have been calling on financial institutions to address abusive overdraft practices for several years, and now Congress is poised to act.
"I don't know what loan sharks are charging these days, but these rates are probably a bit higher," says Eric Halperin, director of the Washington office of the Center for Responsible Lending (CRL). "They're more expensive than any other financial product out there."
In the old days, banks would deny a check payment if you didn't have adequate funds in your account, and charge a bounced-check fee. The only way to avoid this (both then and now) was to have a backup -- a link to a savings account or line of credit. If overdrafts became too frequent, the bank would close your account.
Fee Overload
Today, debit and other electronic transactions are the dominant form of payment. Rather than deny payment, most banks automatically cover your small-dollar overdraft and slap you with a fee averaging $34 on every subsequent transaction until your account is back in the black.
A CRL study released this month found consumers pay $17.5 billion in fees on abusive overdraft loans. The average overdraft is just $27, and is typically repaid within five days.
"In 2004, 80 percent of banks routinely declined overdrafts," says Halperin. "Today, 14 of the 15 largest banks routinely cover overdrafts. It indicates a dramatic shift in the marketplace." The Federal Reserve allows banks to enroll consumers in overdraft protection programs without their written consent.
Shady Practices
Moreover, banks can legally manipulate the order in which they pay checks and debits to maximize fees. Consider this example: Bob thinks he has $1,300 in his checking account, but he only has $1,150. He conducts six debit transactions totaling $180, and then pays his rent, for $1,100. He's overdrawn the account by $130.
Bob's transactions arrive in one batch at the bank. Instead of paying the six transactions and charging a single overdraft fee on the rent check, the bank pays the rent check first, followed by one transaction for $50. It then provides overdraft loans for the other five payments, so Bob incurs five separate fees of $34 each -- or $170. (Banks reserve the right to pay checks in any order; see, for example, the policy of U.S. Bank.)
Two weeks later, Bob deposits his paycheck, and the bank gets its money back. Bottom line: When Bob pays $170 for a two-week loan of $130, the annual percentage rate comes out to 3,400 percent. (See my blog for details on this calculation.) But the Federal Reserve has ruled that overdraft fees are not considered finance charges that have to be disclosed, a spokesperson said.
Preying on the Most Vulnerable
Overdraft loan abuses fall mostly on the backs of middle- and lower-income consumers with little financial education, like Paddy Page, an Idaho mother of four. She receives no child support from the abusive husband she left six years ago, who's now in prison.
Page, who dropped out of high school but eventually earned her GED, works full time as a bill collector for Citibank, making $12 an hour. With no family nearby, she was on her own after her divorce.
"Once you get caught in the cycle, it's hard to get out of it," Page says, adding that most of her overdrafts were for groceries and medical bills for her kids. She racked up nearly $500 in overdraft fees last year at Washington Mutual Bank -- $243 of it over a two-day period in August, for nine overdrawn transactions.
Sleepless Nights, Tipped Scales
Like many consumers, Page didn't maintain her checkbook register, relying on her online account balance -- which didn't factor in outstanding paper checks. And because Page chose Washington Mutual's "free" checking account, she wasn't eligible to open a cheaper line of credit.
"I couldn't make it. There were times when I had no money and no groceries," she recalls. "I'd go to the grocery store and think, 'What else can I do?' I'd write a check, the bank would cover it, and on my next paycheck I'd be fighting to get back up to zero in my account. I couldn't sleep at night; I was about to lose my home."
Clearly, the consumer who spends more than he or she has is at fault. But the scales may be tipped against them: The Check Clearing for the 21st Century Act, approved in 2004, allows banks to clear checks they receive more quickly than in the past. But the act doesn't require financial institutions to credit deposits any faster.
Page, for instance, says she would sometimes make a deposit and get hit with an overdraft fee because the credit didn't clear as quickly as she expected.
Without Warning
Consumer advocates would like to see banks provide a warning to consumers if a transaction would overdraw their account. Similar technology already exists: When you use another bank's ATM, you sometimes receive a warning that you'll pay a $1 or $2 fee. You can choose whether to pay the fee or cancel the transaction.
A survey conducted by CRL earlier this year found that three-quarters of consumers wanted to be warned if they were on the verge of withdrawing more than they had in their account.
But the American Bankers Association (ABA) says it would be unfeasible to apply the technology this way; it would lengthen transaction times and raise the costs to merchants and consumers. "Consumers are in control of their finances and can avoid overdraft fees," said Nessa Feddis, ABA senior federal counsel, in a Congressional hearing earlier this month.
A Happy Ending
Happily, Page got back in control of her finances with the help of a fellow church member who's a financial executive.
They worked together to create a budget; get on time with her bills; learn to steer clear of high-fee payday loans and check-cashing stores; and pay off her credit cards.
Page's oldest two children are now in college. "I tell my kids all the time that education will set you free," she says. "You don't want to be bouncing checks and always scrounging money just to have groceries. It's ridiculous."
Help on the Horizon
Representatives Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.), Barney Frank (D-Mass.), and Julia Carson (D-Ind.) are sponsoring legislation (HR 946, or the Consumer Overdraft Protection Fair Practices Act) to protect consumers from abusive overdraft policies. The act contains four common-sense provisions to address some of the industry's sneakier tactics. It would:
• Require written consent from the consumer before enrollment in an overdraft loan program.
• Require financial institutions to warn the customer when an ATM withdrawal will trigger a fee -- and allow the customer to cancel the transaction at that time.
• Prohibit financial institutions from manipulating the order of check clearing or delaying the posting of deposits to increase customers' overdraft loan fees.
• Amend the Truth in Lending Act to clarify that overdraft fees are finance charges, so that annual interest rates are reported. This would allow consumers to compare overdraft loans with other credit options -- such as lines of credit, which typically offer annual interest rates of less than 20 percent.
Act Now
In her prepared remarks, the ABA's Feddis told the Congressional hearing that forcing financial institutions to report an annual percentage rate would confuse customers: "In these cases, the fee is fixed, the overdraft often small, and the term of repayment short. It is easy to see how triple digit APRs would result ... In the overdraft-fee context, consumers understand a dollar amount far better than an inflated and meaningless APR."
I think consumers are brighter than that: Given a chance to consider the APR on overdraft loans, they'd understand that their bank has been taking them to the cleaners.
Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
This says it all just really makes me angry. The fees just keep getting higher and higher. :-5
[QUOTE]Electronic Loan Sharking[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Electronic Loan Sharking[/QUOTE]
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
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Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
Yep, I'm one of those who runs their bank account into the ground. I pay $25 at Downey Savings and $35 at Bank of America. It's my own fault but sometimes by a slim margin.
Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
The sad thing is when you have to pay these awful fees for being $5.00 over drawn. Doesn't seem right it can't possible cost these bank $25 and up to cover a $5.00 over draft. :-5
[QUOTE]Yep, I'm one of those who runs their bank account into the ground. I pay $25 at Downey Savings and $35 at Bank of America. It's my own fault but sometimes by a slim margin.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Yep, I'm one of those who runs their bank account into the ground. I pay $25 at Downey Savings and $35 at Bank of America. It's my own fault but sometimes by a slim margin.[/QUOTE]
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
I've been charged a $35 "overdraft fee" for going over by $0.10. :-5
It about time somthing's being done.
It about time somthing's being done.
The poolhall's a great equalizer. In the poolhall, nobody cares how old you are, how young you are, what color your skin is or how much money you've got in your pocket... It's about how you move. I remember this kid once who could move around a pool table like nobody had ever seen. Hour after hour, rack after rack, his shots just went in. The cue was part of his arm and the balls had eyes. And the thing that made him so good was... He thought he could never miss. I know, 'cause that kid was me.
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Fibonacci;669680 wrote: I've been charged a $35 "overdraft fee" for going over by $0.10. :-5
It about time somthing's being done.
Good grief! Highway robber barons!
It about time somthing's being done.
Good grief! Highway robber barons!
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I closed an account once and the next statement showed I had a negative balance. They charged me for not maintaining the minimum balance!
Then the next month it was a higher fee for a negative balance, a late fee for not paying the first one, and interest! :wah:
I debated not calling them just to see how long this would go on.
Do they teach budgeting and balancing a checkbook in US schools?
I debated not calling them just to see how long this would go on.
Do they teach budgeting and balancing a checkbook in US schools?
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Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
Accountable;669765 wrote: I closed an account once and the next statement showed I had a negative balance. They charged me for not maintaining the minimum balance!
Then the next month it was a higher fee for a negative balance, a late fee for not paying the first one, and interest! :wah:
I debated not calling them just to see how long this would go on.
Do they teach budgeting and balancing a checkbook in US schools?
Not in my school they didn't. I was even in a 12 grade class that taught how to manage a household and it's crazy but balancing checkbooks was not in the (very small) budgeting segment we had. I already knew how to handle checking by then but I'm just saying that a little course in basic life skills would have been appreciated.
I debated not calling them just to see how long this would go on.
Do they teach budgeting and balancing a checkbook in US schools?
Not in my school they didn't. I was even in a 12 grade class that taught how to manage a household and it's crazy but balancing checkbooks was not in the (very small) budgeting segment we had. I already knew how to handle checking by then but I'm just saying that a little course in basic life skills would have been appreciated.
Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
Do the math. You may find that you paid an effective 3,000 percent annual interest rate on a courtesy loan you never asked for.
Then dont overdraft.
No overdraft no fee.
Then dont overdraft.
No overdraft no fee.
I AM AWESOME MAN
Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
:-3 What are you saying Nomie?? Balance your check book perrish the thought. I prefer to live on the edge each and every day going to the mailbox and looking to see if that nasty"Overdraft" notice is in the mail.. :p
[QUOTE]Then dont overdraft.
No overdraft no fee.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Then dont overdraft.
No overdraft no fee.[/QUOTE]
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
CARLA;670055 wrote: :-3 What are you saying Nomie?? Balance your check book perrish the thought. I prefer to live on the edge each and every day going to the mailbox and looking to see if that nasty"Overdraft" notice is in the mail.. :p
We cant all be reckless and bold edge livers :rolleyes:
We cant all be reckless and bold edge livers :rolleyes:
I AM AWESOME MAN
Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
This is true, I may have to pass the torch its exhausting and costing me money to live on the edge..:p
[QUOTE]We cant all be reckless and bold edge livers [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]We cant all be reckless and bold edge livers [/QUOTE]
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
CARLA;670066 wrote: This is true, I may have to pass the torch its exhausting and costing me money to live on the edge..:p
Theres a cheese alert muka poo.
I dont know what that means but just keep your eyes open.
Theres a cheese alert muka poo.
I dont know what that means but just keep your eyes open.
I AM AWESOME MAN
Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
On it Nomad..:p
[QUOTE]Theres a cheese alert muka poo.
I dont know what that means but just keep your eyes open.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Theres a cheese alert muka poo.
I dont know what that means but just keep your eyes open.[/QUOTE]
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
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Congress Poised to Stop Abusive Overdraft Fees
Nomad;670063 wrote: We cant all be reckless and bold-edge livers :rolleyes:
Does that require a transplant?
Does that require a transplant?