whats good about christianity

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:41 am

this is in response to the other thread circulating..

i think it is good that it gives people a sense of community and togetherness..for alot of the elderly this is the only socialization they get all week...

next.....

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:44 am

hope a sence of fellowship..

and a great movie ,,ben hur

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:46 am

its a proven medical fact that people who have faith in an afterlife have a better chance of surviving cancer...

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:48 am

guppy;689932 wrote: its a proven medical fact that people who have faith in an afterlife have a better chance of surviving cancer...

it is also a fact those who have been to the after life are mostly dead

only kiddin

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:52 am

[quote=el guapo;689934]it is also a fact those who have been to the after life are mostly dead

only kiddin[/quote

its also a fact that the babtists love to eat...omg!!! at the dinners served...

i love those days...

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:55 am

it also a fact that the bible is a big book read by preists and minsters of many faiths

ps not a lot of pics

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:09 am

Its a fact that there are some really good gospel songs sung at church...very moving...and uplifting...

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:10 am

guppy;689957 wrote: Its a fact that there are some really good gospel songs sung at church...very moving...and uplifting...

back on track

a lot of country singer started off singing in church

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:20 am

guppy;689929 wrote: this is in response to the other thread circulating..

i think it is good that it gives people a sense of community and togetherness..for alot of the elderly this is the only socialization they get all week...

next.....

for a minute I thought you were speaking about FG members :wah: (see red hilites)

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:20 am

the ten commandments..:-6

crazygal · Post by **crazygal** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:16 pm

People get to use it as an excuse for things.

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:31 pm

for some it gives a reason and meaning to life on earth....

tomon_36 · Post by **tomon_36** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:16 pm

mabye because it gives some people hope in something greater than them and therefore gives them a will to live.

Post by **spot** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:41 pm

guppy;689932 wrote: its a proven medical fact that people who have faith in an afterlife have a better chance of surviving cancer...

I'd be interested in a link to follow that up if one's available.

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:54 pm

It gives you peace when you are able to give your burdens over to an higher power! The one and only God!!

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:13 am

spot;690126 wrote: I'd be interested in a link to follow that up if one's available.

Protection from Colon and Rectal CancerIn an Australian study of patients with cancer of the colon or rectum, 715 cancer patients were compared with 727 "controls" without cancer.

The researchers found that the respondents who saw themselves as most religious were less likely to have cancer than those who were not as religious. In other words, self-perceived "religiousness" was a statistically significant protective factor against the disease!

Another interesting finding in this study was that self-reported or perceived religiousness was associated with median survival times of sixty-two months. In contrast, those patients who reported themselves as "non-religious" had a median survival time of only fifty-two months. here is one spot...let me look..

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:17 am

PH, Kasl SV, Jones BA.

Department of Epidemiology and Public Health, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, CT 06520-8034, USA. peter.vanness@yale.edu

OBJECTIVE: The study investigated whether any of four measures of religiousness predicted longer survival for 145 African-American and 177 White women diagnosed with breast cancer in Connecticut between January 1987 and March 1989. METHOD: Multivariate Cox proportional hazards models included a religious predictor and sociodemographic, biomedical, treatment, behavioral, and medical care covariables. RESULTS: The no denomination group had a hazard ratio (HR) of 4.39 (95% Confidence Interval (CI) = 1.42, 13.64). Other measures of religiousness did not yield statistically significant results but showed a consistent pattern of nonreligiousness being more strongly and negatively related to breast cancer survival in African Americans than in Whites. CONCLUSIONS: Exploratory models confirmed that lack of religiousness was associated in this sample with poor breast cancer survival among African American women.

PMID: 15152786 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Post by **spot** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:52 am

guppy;690262 wrote: The researchers found that the respondents who saw themselves as most religious were less likely to have cancer than those who were not as religious. In other words, self-perceived "religiousness" was a statistically significant protective factor against the disease!How on earth does that conclusion pan out? Surely it's reasonable to interpret that fact as "people with cancer are more likely to abandon their faith in God than those who are still healthy" - or did the study consider the pre-illness sense of religious commitment? It doesn't sound that way.

Post by **spot** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:02 am

guppy;690265 wrote: CONCLUSIONS: Exploratory models confirmed that lack of religiousness was associated in this sample with poor breast cancer survival among African American women.
There's a summary of studies at http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vste ... iology.pdf

The Epidemiology of Religion. Vic Stenger. For "Reality Check" in Skeptical Briefs, Vol 11, no. 3, September, 2001

starting "A given study may indicate a correlation between an illness and some factor, but this does not necessarily prove that the factor is the cause (or cure) of the illness". It's perhaps more general than specific studies and it does discuss the pitfalls into which some have fallen.

henrychalder · Post by **henrychalder** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:06 am

guppy;689932 wrote: its a proven medical fact that people who have faith in an afterlife have a better chance of surviving cancer...

Whether true or not, I think its appropriate to put in this link...http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/u ... 6x9_bb.ram

Well, is she a godly woman? will she enter paradise?

A fantastic woman!

guppy · Post by **guppy** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:52 pm

Far Rider;690611 wrote: God reveals himself to humans and fills us with an understanding that leaves us with hope.

God relieves my fears.

God allows me to cast my cares upon him and relieve my burdens.

God gives me meaning to stand up and to live for somethign more important than myself.

God teaches me to live above my own understanding.

All of that is found in Christinity.

amen brother..good post..:-4

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:26 pm

Far Rider;690611 wrote: God reveals himself to humans and fills us with an understanding that leaves us with hope.

God relieves my fears.

God allows me to cast my cares upon him and relieve my burdens.

God gives me meaning to stand up and to live for somethign more important than myself.

God teaches me to live above my own understanding.

All of that is found in Christinity.

:yh_clap:yh_clap He is faithful!

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:47 pm

I have no problem with FarRider's list but would add another dimension that is a good part of what Jesus was about: Justice and compassion. This is the basis of all the great faiths on the earth.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:18 pm

Christianity teaches that we are created by and in the image of a loving God who is there for us, wanting the best for us all the time. It gives me a sense of value and stability.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:07 pm

Clint:-6

Anyone who thinks that Christianity is all about "me" simply does not understand the life or teachings of Jesus.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:55 pm

Ted;691765 wrote: Clint:-6

Anyone who thinks that Christianity is all about "me" simply does not understand the life or teachings of Jesus.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Oh, hello Ted.

Now back to the thread. "whats good about christianity"

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:57 pm

Whether or not Jane enters paradise is between her and God. Who is anyone here to judge.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:07 pm

Now to the question about what is good about Christianity.

Shelters for both male and female from inclement weather and from abusive spouses, clothing and food for the homeless, soup kitchens, free technical support for overseas problems such as fresh water for African villages, food banks, care and comfort for those ill and dying, care for the needy, clothing and food for those around the world that need aid, money for those folks, homes and care for single mothers, support for those who have other needs, visiting and counseling in prisons, the founders of education, support for First Nations here in Canada, support for habitat for humanity, comfort for the lonely, support for families in need, etc. For most churches none of this has any strings attached. The support is unconditional just as is the love of God-agape.

Shalom

Ted:-6