I'm sure many of you will disagree with this but as I have always objected to being treated like a criminal after I pay hard money for something, (hello, Home Depot and Sam's Club) I like what this guy is doing.
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The only thing I don't understand is why he felt he had to get out of his
dad's car to make the call. If he had a cell phone why didn't he stay
put to call the police.
It's a very interesting case, I hope we hear the eventual outcome.
If it had been me I think I would have just smiled and sat there until
they got bored with it and went back in the store, or let them call
the cops, and I sure would have locked the doors so the guy couldn't
open it...
dad's car to make the call. If he had a cell phone why didn't he stay
put to call the police.
It's a very interesting case, I hope we hear the eventual outcome.
If it had been me I think I would have just smiled and sat there until
they got bored with it and went back in the store, or let them call
the cops, and I sure would have locked the doors so the guy couldn't
open it...
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Scrat;694705 wrote: Retail theft is such a problem here in America it raises the cost of goods we purchase as much as 15%. They can check my bag any time they want and this guy is obviously a moron of the first order for crying and making a scene about this. He needs a good beating.
What he said.
What he said.
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Rookie wanna be cop
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Indian Princess;694743 wrote: Rookie wanna be cop
Most likely the store employees receive a bonus (hahahahah) at the end of the fiscal year determined by profitability. The biggest set back to that being theft.
Most likely the store employees receive a bonus (hahahahah) at the end of the fiscal year determined by profitability. The biggest set back to that being theft.
Life ain't linear.
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I liked this that he had to say:
However, I am not interested in living my life smoothly. I am interested in living my life on strong principles and standing up for my rights as a consumer, a U.S. citizen and a human being. Allowing stores to inspect our bags at will might seem like a trivial matter, but it creates an atmosphere of obedience which is a dangerous thing. Allowing police officers to see our papers at will might seem like a trivial matter, but it creates a fear-of-authority atmosphere which can be all too easily abused. I can reluctantly understand having to show a permit to fish, a permit to drive and a permit to carry a weapon. Having to show a permit to exist is a scary idea which I got a strong taste of today.
If you think I ripped you off, then check my bags but if you assume I'm GOING to rip you off, that's something else.
Sure people mock this guy and think he has nothing better to do than upset the applecart...why can't he just go along with the program.....but it's people like him who I am grateful for...for exercising principle, shoring up our rights...and for resisting an already Orwellian society.
I agree about unpleasant cops. As a rule I don't get myself into trouble, yet even so, my dealings with them have been unsatisfactory because of their Copitude.
However, I am not interested in living my life smoothly. I am interested in living my life on strong principles and standing up for my rights as a consumer, a U.S. citizen and a human being. Allowing stores to inspect our bags at will might seem like a trivial matter, but it creates an atmosphere of obedience which is a dangerous thing. Allowing police officers to see our papers at will might seem like a trivial matter, but it creates a fear-of-authority atmosphere which can be all too easily abused. I can reluctantly understand having to show a permit to fish, a permit to drive and a permit to carry a weapon. Having to show a permit to exist is a scary idea which I got a strong taste of today.
If you think I ripped you off, then check my bags but if you assume I'm GOING to rip you off, that's something else.
Sure people mock this guy and think he has nothing better to do than upset the applecart...why can't he just go along with the program.....but it's people like him who I am grateful for...for exercising principle, shoring up our rights...and for resisting an already Orwellian society.
I agree about unpleasant cops. As a rule I don't get myself into trouble, yet even so, my dealings with them have been unsatisfactory because of their Copitude.
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Only country I've been in where they habitually check your receipt on leaving a store is austria. The locals accept it as the norm but it's strange.
In the UK you haven't committed theft until you LEAVE the store with unpaid goods if you get stopped inside the only thing they can do is ask you to pay or if they have other corroboratory evidence like cctv footage of you concealing the goods about your person. Even then they have no right to search you.
If they stop you then you are perfectly within your rights to insist they call the police just as they are within their rights to detain you using reasonable force until the police arrive. If you stop someone and insist on searching their bag without calling the police then it's wrongful arrest and they can sue you if you don't find any stolen goods. Checking receipts on the way out might deter the casual shoplifter but not the professional ones.
i used to be a manager (in what is now asda walmart) so have been involved in arresting shoplifters-even had the little bastards pull knives out and attack the store detectives. One store I was in I was called down because the doorman had refused entry to an individual because he was a known shoplifter. he was irate as he had done his time and couldn't understand why he should now be banned. But I digress.
I can't believe any of you are prepared to accept that anyone has the right to accuse you of shoplifting and search your bags without a good reason-If they were certain he had stolen something then fair enough-what if you had just been having a look round and hadn't bought anything does that make you suspicious? I hope for your sake this guy wins. You insist you can own guns to protect your freedom but think it OK that any security guy can search you when he feels like it?:-2
posted by scrat
Retail theft is such a problem here in America it raises the cost of goods we purchase as much as 15%. They can check my bag any time they want and this guy is obviously a moron of the first order for crying and making a scene about this. He needs a good beating.
It's not stuff going out the front. I've worked in several stores with stock loses 15% and above. By the time I left it would be down to 1% or less almost invariably it was poor stock control-checking deliveries properly etc sometimes straight out theft and collusion between warehouse staff and lorry drivers. but mostly poor bookkeeping, matching invoices correctly stuff like that. simple bad management. Treating customers as potential criminals-why do you let them away with it? Shop elsewhere
posted by red glitter
Allowing police officers to see our papers at will might seem like a trivial matter, but it creates a fear-of-authority atmosphere which can be all too easily abused. I can reluctantly understand having to show a permit to fish, a permit to drive and a permit to carry a weapon. Having to show a permit to exist is a scary idea which I got a strong taste of today.
I know other countries carry ID cards and it's an offence not to have them but I prefer a culture where a policeman better have a good reason for stopping me-I will co-operate
posted by jimbo
i have been walking home before and been stopped by the police and after giving my name and address ,have been asked for my car license plate number and all manner of other things that the police have no right to ask in these circumstances
I've been stopped late at night by police-bit of a problem since I don't carry driving licence or insurance docs etc. as a matter of course but then I live in the car theft capital of Scotland so I don't mind-after all it could be my car they stop. Most of the time they can suss out if you are a criminal, if they had arrested me don't know if i would sue or not depends on the circumstances.
In the UK you haven't committed theft until you LEAVE the store with unpaid goods if you get stopped inside the only thing they can do is ask you to pay or if they have other corroboratory evidence like cctv footage of you concealing the goods about your person. Even then they have no right to search you.
If they stop you then you are perfectly within your rights to insist they call the police just as they are within their rights to detain you using reasonable force until the police arrive. If you stop someone and insist on searching their bag without calling the police then it's wrongful arrest and they can sue you if you don't find any stolen goods. Checking receipts on the way out might deter the casual shoplifter but not the professional ones.
i used to be a manager (in what is now asda walmart) so have been involved in arresting shoplifters-even had the little bastards pull knives out and attack the store detectives. One store I was in I was called down because the doorman had refused entry to an individual because he was a known shoplifter. he was irate as he had done his time and couldn't understand why he should now be banned. But I digress.
I can't believe any of you are prepared to accept that anyone has the right to accuse you of shoplifting and search your bags without a good reason-If they were certain he had stolen something then fair enough-what if you had just been having a look round and hadn't bought anything does that make you suspicious? I hope for your sake this guy wins. You insist you can own guns to protect your freedom but think it OK that any security guy can search you when he feels like it?:-2
posted by scrat
Retail theft is such a problem here in America it raises the cost of goods we purchase as much as 15%. They can check my bag any time they want and this guy is obviously a moron of the first order for crying and making a scene about this. He needs a good beating.
It's not stuff going out the front. I've worked in several stores with stock loses 15% and above. By the time I left it would be down to 1% or less almost invariably it was poor stock control-checking deliveries properly etc sometimes straight out theft and collusion between warehouse staff and lorry drivers. but mostly poor bookkeeping, matching invoices correctly stuff like that. simple bad management. Treating customers as potential criminals-why do you let them away with it? Shop elsewhere
posted by red glitter
Allowing police officers to see our papers at will might seem like a trivial matter, but it creates a fear-of-authority atmosphere which can be all too easily abused. I can reluctantly understand having to show a permit to fish, a permit to drive and a permit to carry a weapon. Having to show a permit to exist is a scary idea which I got a strong taste of today.
I know other countries carry ID cards and it's an offence not to have them but I prefer a culture where a policeman better have a good reason for stopping me-I will co-operate
posted by jimbo
i have been walking home before and been stopped by the police and after giving my name and address ,have been asked for my car license plate number and all manner of other things that the police have no right to ask in these circumstances
I've been stopped late at night by police-bit of a problem since I don't carry driving licence or insurance docs etc. as a matter of course but then I live in the car theft capital of Scotland so I don't mind-after all it could be my car they stop. Most of the time they can suss out if you are a criminal, if they had arrested me don't know if i would sue or not depends on the circumstances.
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Fine, I didn't have to take the shortcut. I didn't have anything to hide. Same thing at a store, I don't have anything to hide.
Scrat, I'm surprised that you feel as you do on this issue. I thought you would take the other side.
Those to me are very dangerous words in a society such as ours. That's how Bush gets away with usurping peoples' rights every time he invades a little more of our collective privacy with his "efforts" to prevent terrorism. People say they don't care if the FBI listens in on their private calls- they have nothing to hide.
They don't care that their employer can gain access to their personal banking records or credit history- they have nothing to hide!They may as well be saying "take my rights! I don't need 'em! I'm not using 'em!"
For me, it's about a person's right to not be treated as a criminal before it's warranted. Why do we spend our hard-earned money at stores that presume we're all thieves to begin with? This is insulting. As I said earlier, if they think they saw me pocket something then, check me out. They'll lose a customer for sure and they had better be right or it will get ugly, but don't treat me, as a matter of course, as if you and I both know I'm a thief. Especially at the out of sight markup most stores have, but I digress there.
I see this man as one underdog fighting for the rights of underdogs everywhere. Not just within the narrow scope of Circuit City but in the overall bigger picture presenting itself to society today.
How far are we willing to go to prove we've nothing to hide?? Personal microchips? National ID card with scannable strips to bank accounts and medical records, accessible by anyone with a reading device? MIB coming to your door at will? Where does it stop if we continue to cow down?
I knew you guys would make this a worthwhile discussion and I appreciate that, whether we agree or not.
Scrat, I'm surprised that you feel as you do on this issue. I thought you would take the other side.
Those to me are very dangerous words in a society such as ours. That's how Bush gets away with usurping peoples' rights every time he invades a little more of our collective privacy with his "efforts" to prevent terrorism. People say they don't care if the FBI listens in on their private calls- they have nothing to hide. They don't care that their employer can gain access to their personal banking records or credit history- they have nothing to hide!They may as well be saying "take my rights! I don't need 'em! I'm not using 'em!"
For me, it's about a person's right to not be treated as a criminal before it's warranted. Why do we spend our hard-earned money at stores that presume we're all thieves to begin with? This is insulting. As I said earlier, if they think they saw me pocket something then, check me out. They'll lose a customer for sure and they had better be right or it will get ugly, but don't treat me, as a matter of course, as if you and I both know I'm a thief. Especially at the out of sight markup most stores have, but I digress there.
I see this man as one underdog fighting for the rights of underdogs everywhere. Not just within the narrow scope of Circuit City but in the overall bigger picture presenting itself to society today.
How far are we willing to go to prove we've nothing to hide?? Personal microchips? National ID card with scannable strips to bank accounts and medical records, accessible by anyone with a reading device? MIB coming to your door at will? Where does it stop if we continue to cow down?
I knew you guys would make this a worthwhile discussion and I appreciate that, whether we agree or not.
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gmc;694791 wrote:
I can't believe any of you are prepared to accept that anyone has the right to accuse you of shoplifting and search your bags without a good reason-If they were certain he had stolen something then fair enough-what if you had just been having a look round and hadn't bought anything does that make you suspicious? I hope for your sake this guy wins. You insist you can own guns to protect your freedom but think it OK that any security guy can search you when he feels like it?:-2
It's scary to me that we give a store security guard- or even a Walmart door greeter the right to act as the police from the start.
posted by scrat
It's not stuff going out the front. I've worked in several stores with stock loses 15% and above. By the time I left it would be down to 1% or less almost invariably it was poor stock control-checking deliveries properly etc sometimes straight out theft and collusion between warehouse staff and lorry drivers. but mostly poor bookkeeping, matching invoices correctly stuff like that. simple bad management.
This reminds me of my mother who, for years, railed against casino policy regarding random purse searches. Most casino working ladies here are required to carry see-through plastic handbags to deter theft. From time to time at the end of the day, casino supers would have employees line up at shift's end and would go through women's purses and men's pockets. Not everyone- not other main supervisors and bosses, only the lower ranking employees such as day supers and housekeeping. My mom would politely but firmly complain every time, that it was unfair policy to check only low ranking employees. That it was a personal implication that only lower ranks would steal. She was a keno supervisor three days a week but would only be searched on her non-super days. She'd tell them "you search everyone and be fair about it or don't search anyone at all. How dare you assume I'm a thief two days a week." And she was correct. She also knew of several people in upper management who were routinely ripping off the casino. Yet the casino chose to continue performing these ridiculous searches in the same manner they always had, stepping on people's rights.
I know other countries carry ID cards and it's an offence not to have them but I prefer a culture where a policeman better have a good reason for stopping me-I will co-operate
I wholly agree with this. While I am not anti-cop, I am anti- police state and I think that's what we're coming to.
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I can't believe any of you are prepared to accept that anyone has the right to accuse you of shoplifting and search your bags without a good reason-If they were certain he had stolen something then fair enough-what if you had just been having a look round and hadn't bought anything does that make you suspicious? I hope for your sake this guy wins. You insist you can own guns to protect your freedom but think it OK that any security guy can search you when he feels like it?:-2
It's scary to me that we give a store security guard- or even a Walmart door greeter the right to act as the police from the start.
posted by scrat
It's not stuff going out the front. I've worked in several stores with stock loses 15% and above. By the time I left it would be down to 1% or less almost invariably it was poor stock control-checking deliveries properly etc sometimes straight out theft and collusion between warehouse staff and lorry drivers. but mostly poor bookkeeping, matching invoices correctly stuff like that. simple bad management.
This reminds me of my mother who, for years, railed against casino policy regarding random purse searches. Most casino working ladies here are required to carry see-through plastic handbags to deter theft. From time to time at the end of the day, casino supers would have employees line up at shift's end and would go through women's purses and men's pockets. Not everyone- not other main supervisors and bosses, only the lower ranking employees such as day supers and housekeeping. My mom would politely but firmly complain every time, that it was unfair policy to check only low ranking employees. That it was a personal implication that only lower ranks would steal. She was a keno supervisor three days a week but would only be searched on her non-super days. She'd tell them "you search everyone and be fair about it or don't search anyone at all. How dare you assume I'm a thief two days a week." And she was correct. She also knew of several people in upper management who were routinely ripping off the casino. Yet the casino chose to continue performing these ridiculous searches in the same manner they always had, stepping on people's rights.
I know other countries carry ID cards and it's an offence not to have them but I prefer a culture where a policeman better have a good reason for stopping me-I will co-operate
I wholly agree with this. While I am not anti-cop, I am anti- police state and I think that's what we're coming to.
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Scrat;694865 wrote: I fail to see what is right about this guys actions. He's railing on about the "atmosphere" stuff like this creates. Gimme a goddamn break, I've been pulled over while cutting through bad neighborhoods by police, they usually say it's because of my license plate light in back (in hangs down) but I know its BS. First thing they did is ask me why I'm in the area (all you see is lowriders and SUVs, Caddies OF THE DRUG BARONS there not red 4x4s with big wheels EVER. Next they want to search the truck and once even got a dog.
Fine, I didn't have to take the shortcut. I didn't have anything to hide. Same thing at a store, I don't have anything to hide.
I'll say it again, the amount of retail theft in America is staggering and like GMC says, it is at both ends. We all pay in the end.
I see the police and the security people being here TO PROTECT US FROM OURSELVES in many ways, the human ape will grab anything in reach if we can, accept it.
Instead of wrapping himself in the coveted cloak of victimhood he should be ranting about what makes it necessary or just STFU and live with it.
Scrat I would like to thank you for doing my ranting today. Life is beautiful and I don't feel like being confrontational.
Every bag gets checked, every TV gets checked. You know one of the main reasons? Sometimes the wrong thing on big ticket items is brought out of the warehouse; human error. I've been working retail for over ten years. I've been working consumer electronics for over seven. I have seen people stabbed with screw drivers, I have seen people walk out of the front doors with thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of items; and there be nothing you can do about it. These people are doing their jobs. If they don't do these things they will be fired.
Most times they are also making sure the security alarms have been disabled, of course if some of you didn't allow him to check your bags and then the alarm would go off and you would cry about that as well.
Lock a man up for years and label him a sex offender because he was 18 and his girl friend was 16, stop life before it ends, arrest a man for having a doobie in his pocket, throw hard working people out of the country, bitch about having your bags checked at Circuit City.
Homeless people; we really don't need them do we. just throw them in some containment area somewhere; right?
Get your fing priorities straight people.
Scrat, not that it need to be said, but none of that was aimed at you or anyone else in particular; generally.
Fine, I didn't have to take the shortcut. I didn't have anything to hide. Same thing at a store, I don't have anything to hide.
I'll say it again, the amount of retail theft in America is staggering and like GMC says, it is at both ends. We all pay in the end.
I see the police and the security people being here TO PROTECT US FROM OURSELVES in many ways, the human ape will grab anything in reach if we can, accept it.
Instead of wrapping himself in the coveted cloak of victimhood he should be ranting about what makes it necessary or just STFU and live with it.
Scrat I would like to thank you for doing my ranting today. Life is beautiful and I don't feel like being confrontational.
Every bag gets checked, every TV gets checked. You know one of the main reasons? Sometimes the wrong thing on big ticket items is brought out of the warehouse; human error. I've been working retail for over ten years. I've been working consumer electronics for over seven. I have seen people stabbed with screw drivers, I have seen people walk out of the front doors with thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of items; and there be nothing you can do about it. These people are doing their jobs. If they don't do these things they will be fired.
Most times they are also making sure the security alarms have been disabled, of course if some of you didn't allow him to check your bags and then the alarm would go off and you would cry about that as well.
Lock a man up for years and label him a sex offender because he was 18 and his girl friend was 16, stop life before it ends, arrest a man for having a doobie in his pocket, throw hard working people out of the country, bitch about having your bags checked at Circuit City.
Homeless people; we really don't need them do we. just throw them in some containment area somewhere; right?
Get your fing priorities straight people.
Scrat, not that it need to be said, but none of that was aimed at you or anyone else in particular; generally.
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Lock a man up for years and label him a sex offender because he was 18 and his girl friend was 16, stop life before it ends, arrest a man for having a doobie in his pocket, throw hard working people out of the country, bitch about having your bags checked at Circuit City.
Homeless people; we really don't need them do we. just throw them in some containment area somewhere; right?
Get your fing priorities straight people.
Scrat, not that it need to be said, but none of that was aimed at you or anyone else in particular; generally.
I think protecting a person's rights should be a top priority of everyone or they shouldn't complain when theirs are trampled.
I don't know KB. I know you're not crazy about me particularly after the abortion thread, but it sounds to me like FG is beginning to get to you.
Homeless people; we really don't need them do we. just throw them in some containment area somewhere; right?
Get your fing priorities straight people.
Scrat, not that it need to be said, but none of that was aimed at you or anyone else in particular; generally.
I think protecting a person's rights should be a top priority of everyone or they shouldn't complain when theirs are trampled.
I don't know KB. I know you're not crazy about me particularly after the abortion thread, but it sounds to me like FG is beginning to get to you.
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Never shopped at Circuit City, but in any other store I've been in, I've never been searched. Only thing, is maybe like at Wal-Mart, having to show my receipt if soemthing I have purchased isn't in a bag due to size or convenience. And any time they've looked, they're always nice about - just doing their jobs. While I can understand the point this man is making, to an extent, I'm thinking he just made one heck of a mountain out of a molehill. But, if he wants to waste time and money on legal crap, more power to him.
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Mystery;695135 wrote: Never shopped at Circuit City, but in any other store I've been in, I've never been searched. Only thing, is maybe like at Wal-Mart, having to show my receipt if soemthing I have purchased isn't in a bag due to size or convenience. And any time they've looked, they're always nice about - just doing their jobs. While I can understand the point this man is making, to an extent, I'm thinking he just made one heck of a mountain out of a molehill. But, if he wants to waste time and money on legal crap, more power to him.
Weve become complacent about our rights. Theyre being scraped away bit by bit. Its better to attack the molehills before they become mountains.
Weve become complacent about our rights. Theyre being scraped away bit by bit. Its better to attack the molehills before they become mountains.
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Nomad;695137 wrote: Weve become complacent about our rights. Theyre being scraped away bit by bit. Its better to attack the molehills before they become mountains.
Perhaps we have become somewhat complacent, as it's gotten to the point that many of the rights we've always had are non-existant anymore, but this doesn't strike me as a right infringement. We could bring this all the way around to the security guard/employee as well - what about the job they're paid to do to ensure their customers are protected? If showing a receipt can assist in hindering other delinquents (not that I'm saying it does, cause I don't have any statistics on it) from shoplifting, I just don't have a problem with it.
Perhaps we have become somewhat complacent, as it's gotten to the point that many of the rights we've always had are non-existant anymore, but this doesn't strike me as a right infringement. We could bring this all the way around to the security guard/employee as well - what about the job they're paid to do to ensure their customers are protected? If showing a receipt can assist in hindering other delinquents (not that I'm saying it does, cause I don't have any statistics on it) from shoplifting, I just don't have a problem with it.
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Mystery;695141 wrote: Perhaps we have become somewhat complacent, as it's gotten to the point that many of the rights we've always had are non-existant anymore, but this doesn't strike me as a right infringement. We could bring this all the way around to the security guard/employee as well - what about the job they're paid to do to ensure their customers are protected? If showing a receipt can assist in hindering other delinquents (not that I'm saying it does, cause I don't have any statistics on it) from shoplifting, I just don't have a problem with it.
Ive been stopped from getting in my car by Wal Mart employees after purchasing a tv there. It humiliating and they were on the side of accusatory. That was enraging after just giving them my money.
I immediately returned the tv.
There are a lot of stores out there competing for your dollars and customer satisfaction will make the difference for me even if it costs more.
They could place more in house security walking the floors making sure proper transactions occured or by using cameras before I left the store to verify Im paid up as opposed to chasing me down in the parking lot to prove I didnt just commit larceny ! :-5:-5:-5
Ive been stopped from getting in my car by Wal Mart employees after purchasing a tv there. It humiliating and they were on the side of accusatory. That was enraging after just giving them my money.
I immediately returned the tv.
There are a lot of stores out there competing for your dollars and customer satisfaction will make the difference for me even if it costs more.
They could place more in house security walking the floors making sure proper transactions occured or by using cameras before I left the store to verify Im paid up as opposed to chasing me down in the parking lot to prove I didnt just commit larceny ! :-5:-5:-5
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I have mixed feelings on this incident
Several stores check receipts - I usually just hold the receipt up as I walk by security & out the door.
Scrat's has traveled to several location and is aware - just provide ID etc.
In Paris the guards hold machine guns - you show your ID
This individual was aware of a incident brewing and still got into the vehicle.
I myself do want to waste my day with police & jail etc. - lifes too short really..
Red - I do understand the issue of our rights and this individual has brought up a few interesting facts.
Our rights are being infrindged upon everyday on several issues, so I don't know.
But, being on a holiday - car is packed with family - truely is this the right time to prove a point? I don't know - The individual is buying a birthday present & all the family is in town - I really feel the individual was obstinate.
Just show your receipt & article - stop shopping at Circuit City
Go enjoy your family & write a letter to Circuit City - the Attorney General etc..
Patsy
Several stores check receipts - I usually just hold the receipt up as I walk by security & out the door.
Scrat's has traveled to several location and is aware - just provide ID etc.
In Paris the guards hold machine guns - you show your ID
This individual was aware of a incident brewing and still got into the vehicle.
I myself do want to waste my day with police & jail etc. - lifes too short really..
Red - I do understand the issue of our rights and this individual has brought up a few interesting facts.
Our rights are being infrindged upon everyday on several issues, so I don't know.
But, being on a holiday - car is packed with family - truely is this the right time to prove a point? I don't know - The individual is buying a birthday present & all the family is in town - I really feel the individual was obstinate.
Just show your receipt & article - stop shopping at Circuit City
Go enjoy your family & write a letter to Circuit City - the Attorney General etc..
Patsy
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Nomad;695144 wrote: Ive been stopped from getting in my car by Wal Mart employees after purchasing a tv there. It humiliating and they were on the side of accusatory. That was enraging after just giving them my money.
I immediately returned the tv.
There are a lot of stores out there competing for your dollars and customer satisfaction will make the difference for me even if it costs more.
They could place more in house security walking the floors making sure proper transactions occured or by using cameras before I left the store to verify Im paid up as opposed to chasing me down in the parking lot to prove I didnt just commit larceny !
I'm really, REALLY not gonna laugh!! :wah: Okay, maybe I did, just a little...
But, anyway - what you're talking about is a bit different IMO. Being chased down borders on harassment, and that's a bit different from having to show a receipt.
A bit of a disclaimer here - as I said earlier, I've never actually been stopped and searched in a store, so the experience is not something I can relate to. It's just that I can see the reasoning behind checking receipts and whatnot on items not bagged. I don't agree with chasing someone down and strong-arming them (but oh God, what a visual :wah: )
I immediately returned the tv.
There are a lot of stores out there competing for your dollars and customer satisfaction will make the difference for me even if it costs more.
They could place more in house security walking the floors making sure proper transactions occured or by using cameras before I left the store to verify Im paid up as opposed to chasing me down in the parking lot to prove I didnt just commit larceny !
I'm really, REALLY not gonna laugh!! :wah: Okay, maybe I did, just a little...
But, anyway - what you're talking about is a bit different IMO. Being chased down borders on harassment, and that's a bit different from having to show a receipt.
A bit of a disclaimer here - as I said earlier, I've never actually been stopped and searched in a store, so the experience is not something I can relate to. It's just that I can see the reasoning behind checking receipts and whatnot on items not bagged. I don't agree with chasing someone down and strong-arming them (but oh God, what a visual :wah: )
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Patsy Warnick;695147 wrote: I have mixed feelings on this incident
Several stores check receipts - I usually just hold the receipt up as I walk by security & out the door.
Scrat's has traveled to several location and is aware - just provide ID etc.
In Paris the guards hold machine guns - you show your ID
This individual was aware of a incident brewing and still got into the vehicle.
I myself do want to waste my day with police & jail etc. - lifes too short really..
Red - I do understand the issue of our rights and this individual has brought up a few interesting facts.
Our rights are being infrindged upon everyday on several issues, so I don't know.
But, being on a holiday - car is packed with family - truely is this the right time to prove a point? I don't know - The individual is buying a birthday present & all the family is in town - I really feel the individual was obstinate.
Just show your receipt & aricle - stop shopping at Circuit City
Go enjoy your family & write a letter to Circuit City - the Attorney General etc..
Patsy
Whole lot better at articulating what I was thinking, you are Patsy!
Several stores check receipts - I usually just hold the receipt up as I walk by security & out the door.
Scrat's has traveled to several location and is aware - just provide ID etc.
In Paris the guards hold machine guns - you show your ID
This individual was aware of a incident brewing and still got into the vehicle.
I myself do want to waste my day with police & jail etc. - lifes too short really..
Red - I do understand the issue of our rights and this individual has brought up a few interesting facts.
Our rights are being infrindged upon everyday on several issues, so I don't know.
But, being on a holiday - car is packed with family - truely is this the right time to prove a point? I don't know - The individual is buying a birthday present & all the family is in town - I really feel the individual was obstinate.
Just show your receipt & aricle - stop shopping at Circuit City
Go enjoy your family & write a letter to Circuit City - the Attorney General etc..
Patsy
Whole lot better at articulating what I was thinking, you are Patsy!
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Mystery;695149 wrote: I'm really, REALLY not gonna laugh!! :wah: Okay, maybe I did, just a little...
But, anyway - what you're talking about is a bit different IMO. Being chased down borders on harassment, and that's a bit different from having to show a receipt.
A bit of a disclaimer here - as I said earlier, I've never actually been stopped and searched in a store, so the experience is not something I can relate to. It's just that I can see the reasoning behind checking receipts and whatnot on items not bagged. I don't agree with chasing someone down and strong-arming them (but oh God, what a visual :wah: )
Wal Mart
Its their "MO"
They love that kind of stuff because they think they have power.
They even have customer humiliation seminars.
Theyre in China now....you know what theyre selling in the grocery aisles ?
Instead of canned peas like normal people eat theyre selling sows ears. I heard about it.
Tell me theyre not giving them the "business"
But, anyway - what you're talking about is a bit different IMO. Being chased down borders on harassment, and that's a bit different from having to show a receipt.
A bit of a disclaimer here - as I said earlier, I've never actually been stopped and searched in a store, so the experience is not something I can relate to. It's just that I can see the reasoning behind checking receipts and whatnot on items not bagged. I don't agree with chasing someone down and strong-arming them (but oh God, what a visual :wah: )
Wal Mart
Its their "MO"
They love that kind of stuff because they think they have power.
They even have customer humiliation seminars.
Theyre in China now....you know what theyre selling in the grocery aisles ?
Instead of canned peas like normal people eat theyre selling sows ears. I heard about it.
Tell me theyre not giving them the "business"
I AM AWESOME MAN
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Nomad;695154 wrote: Wal Mart
Its their "MO"
They love that kind of stuff because they think they have power.
They even have customer humiliation seminars.
Theyre in China now....you know what theyre selling in the grocery aisles ?
Instead of canned peas like normal people eat theyre selling sows ears. I heard about it.
Tell me theyre not giving them the "business"
I've gotten to where I don't shop at Wal-Mart as much anymore. It's too much of a headache. 5 million customers, and 2 checkout lanes! Nuff said about 'em in my opinion :rolleyes:
Its their "MO"
They love that kind of stuff because they think they have power.
They even have customer humiliation seminars.
Theyre in China now....you know what theyre selling in the grocery aisles ?
Instead of canned peas like normal people eat theyre selling sows ears. I heard about it.
Tell me theyre not giving them the "business"
I've gotten to where I don't shop at Wal-Mart as much anymore. It's too much of a headache. 5 million customers, and 2 checkout lanes! Nuff said about 'em in my opinion :rolleyes:
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Nomad;695144 wrote: Ive been stopped from getting in my car by Wal Mart employees after purchasing a tv there. It humiliating and they were on the side of accusatory. That was enraging after just giving them my money.
I immediately returned the tv.
There are a lot of stores out there competing for your dollars and customer satisfaction will make the difference for me even if it costs more.
They could place more in house security walking the floors making sure proper transactions occured or by using cameras before I left the store to verify Im paid up as opposed to chasing me down in the parking lot to prove I didnt just commit larceny ! :-5:-5:-5
Exactly. And good on you for returning their damn TV!
Mystery I'm not just talking about non bagged items, I'm talking they search your bag and compare with the receipt as people walk by wondering what you stole. I have a problem with that behavior.
Patsy,I see your point but sometimes standing on principle doesn't come at a convenient time.
I immediately returned the tv.
There are a lot of stores out there competing for your dollars and customer satisfaction will make the difference for me even if it costs more.
They could place more in house security walking the floors making sure proper transactions occured or by using cameras before I left the store to verify Im paid up as opposed to chasing me down in the parking lot to prove I didnt just commit larceny ! :-5:-5:-5
Exactly. And good on you for returning their damn TV!
Mystery I'm not just talking about non bagged items, I'm talking they search your bag and compare with the receipt as people walk by wondering what you stole. I have a problem with that behavior.
Patsy,I see your point but sometimes standing on principle doesn't come at a convenient time.
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RedGlitter;695194 wrote: Mystery I'm not just talking about non bagged items, I'm talking they search your bag and compare with the receipt as people walk by wondering what you stole. I have a problem with that behavior.
Hmmmm, well now I believe I'd have a bit of a problem with them searching through things that are clearly bagged. In the stores you're speaking of, do they do that with every customer?
Hmmmm, well now I believe I'd have a bit of a problem with them searching through things that are clearly bagged. In the stores you're speaking of, do they do that with every customer?
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Mystery;695197 wrote: Hmmmm, well now I believe I'd have a bit of a problem with them searching through things that are clearly bagged. In the stores you're speaking of, do they do that with every customer?
In Sams Club and Home Depot, in my experience, yes they do- they check everyone at the door. But at my Walmart, they are random.
In Sams Club and Home Depot, in my experience, yes they do- they check everyone at the door. But at my Walmart, they are random.
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I'm also wondering if there isn't a bit of profiling of some sort going on,
this guy doesn't say how old he is but that might enter into it...
a few years ago, I got a new pair of saddlebags and wanted to see if
I could get some sort of insulated bags to fit down in them to keep my
sandwich and drink a little cooler on my rides, saddlebags hang right
next to the horse's warm body and stuff can heat up.
Anyway, to insure a proper "fit" I took the saddlebags in the stores
with me. I went to several, and one store had insulated bags down
on a very bottom shelf, so I just plopped down on the floor and tested
stuff out, opening bags, putting them in, tightening up the saddlebags,
quite a bit of motions actually, and when nothing fit, gathered my
saddlebags and left. AT NO TIME AT ANY STORE WAS I CHALLENGED BY
ANYONE. I mentioned it to the DH when I got home, and he said "Well
sweetie you just have an honest face". But I don't know, if I had been
working at those stores, *I* would have challenged me!!
:-2
this guy doesn't say how old he is but that might enter into it...
a few years ago, I got a new pair of saddlebags and wanted to see if
I could get some sort of insulated bags to fit down in them to keep my
sandwich and drink a little cooler on my rides, saddlebags hang right
next to the horse's warm body and stuff can heat up.
Anyway, to insure a proper "fit" I took the saddlebags in the stores
with me. I went to several, and one store had insulated bags down
on a very bottom shelf, so I just plopped down on the floor and tested
stuff out, opening bags, putting them in, tightening up the saddlebags,
quite a bit of motions actually, and when nothing fit, gathered my
saddlebags and left. AT NO TIME AT ANY STORE WAS I CHALLENGED BY
ANYONE. I mentioned it to the DH when I got home, and he said "Well
sweetie you just have an honest face". But I don't know, if I had been
working at those stores, *I* would have challenged me!!
:-2