Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:36 am

koan;459046 wrote: then find me an english/russian translation tool that prints something you can read.

wait, i know. You write something in Russian and I'll try to tell you what it means.

Try this: http://www.online-translator.com/text.asp?lang=en

Looks more or less fine!

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:39 am

nickols_k;459074 wrote: I can read your text! This text has bad grammatics! I tried many online translator and every translates with bad results!

Why you don't want to use english?

Because I use english all the time. I found someone I can learn Russian from. So I'm trying.

Thanks for the link. I'll be back with more "Russian" for you to judge. lol

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:41 am

Я хотел бы говорить на больше чем одном языке.

try to tell me how it came out. bad grammar and all.

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:52 am

koan;459092 wrote: Я хотел бы говорить на больше чем одном языке.

try to tell me how it came out. bad grammar and all.
It's much better grammar! Correct translation is:

Мне хотелось бы говорить более, чем на одном языке.

REVERSE translation:

I would want to speak on more than one language!

Btw, there is russian commune in New England: http://www.nesbc.com/index.php

They are perfectly speaking on both russian and english

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:02 pm

nickols_k;459106 wrote: It's much better grammar! Correct translation is:

Мне хотелось бы говорить более, чем на одном языке.

REVERSE translation:

I would want to speak on more than one language!

Btw, there is russian commune in New England: http://www.nesbc.com/index.php

They are perfectly speaking on both russian and english

Cool. What I actually wrote was: "I would like to speak more than one language."

I'll look at the other site also.

Now, for the tough question: How would that sound? Can you spell phonetically how you would say the russian version of the language statement? Do you speak english too, or just write it?

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:04 pm

I got an even better idea! If you have a microphone and can record your voice...can I ask you how to say a word and you attach your voice saying it? :yh_pray

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:18 am

koan;459119 wrote: Cool. What I actually wrote was: "I would like to speak more than one language."

The main problem is that this pharse has no non ambigous translation! The verb like often can't be translated directly on Russian!

Direct translation:

Мне было бы приятно говорить более, чем на одном языке!

I'll look at the other site also.

Now, for the tough question: How would that sound? Can you spell phonetically how you would say the russian version of the language statement? Do you speak english too, or just write it?
I have too little speaking practice! Your phrase with using the latin characters:

Mne bЫlo bЫ priyatno govorit' bolee Чem na odnom yazЫke!

russian character Ч sounds the same as last sound in word about

russian character Ы sounds almost similar as last sound in word key

There is rule the characters are pronouncing in the same way as you read them!

Russian unlike engligh has no rules like EE EA OO GHT ...

There is 2 characters Ь Ъ which have no pronounce and are using to make sound softer or harder! Almost all other characters sounds siimilar to latin's characters from point of their painting!

koan;459119 wrote:

I got an even better idea! If you have a microphone and can record your voice...can I ask you how to say a word and you attach your voice saying it?

If you want seriously to study russian then I would recommend you to buy or get

the perfect program LINGVO: http://www.abbyy.com/lingvo/

Some packages of this product provide voice pronouncing of all words english and russian!

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:48 am

OK. Tell me how I did.

Attached files goodevening.mp3 (30.2 KB)

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:58 am

koan;460256 wrote: OK. Tell me how I did.
Cool! It's recognizeable speech!

You may not believe me but I have some devilish features and under some condition

may speak with any human voice and on any language using my acoustic's memory!

I may simulate any musical instrument same as many instruments simultaneously!

So my voice is something abstract for other people!

There are other hosts who have some of devilish features too!

Be bless!

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:01 pm

nickols_k;460272 wrote: Cool! It's recognizeable speech!

You may not believe me but I have some devilish features and under some condition

may speak with any human voice and on any language using my acoustic's memory!

I may simulate any musical instrument same as many instruments simultaneously!

So my voice is something abstract for other people!

There are other hosts who have some of devilish features too!

Be bless!

wow. I'd like to hear you sound like a violin. can you do that?

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:11 pm

koan;460278 wrote: wow. I'd like to hear you sound like a violin. can you do that?

You'll be not able to distinguish my voice from violin!

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:15 am

koan;460256 wrote: OK. Tell me how I did.

Are you offended?

I have an idea? Would you perform proofreading of my article? I almost finalized v 1.06!

But I'm will purchase the microphone and will learn you to speak in Russian!

koan · Post by **koan** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:24 am

nickols_k;461487 wrote: Are you offended?

I have an idea? Would you perform proofreading of my article? I almost finalized v 1.06!

But I'm will purchase the microphone and will learn you to speak in Russian!

Not offended at all.

You said you understood me. That is good.

I'll try to read the whole article but I don't have a lot of time right now.

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:33 am

koan;461510 wrote: Not offended at all.

You said you understood me. That is good.

I'll try to read the whole article but I don't have a lot of time right now.

If you will want to perform proofreading then please tell me - I'll send you 1.06!

Btw, King James translation of Bible requires to be proofreaded too!

Example:

Revelation 13:11

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

IMHO it would be correctly to write:

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exercised all the power of the first beast before him, and caused the earth and them who dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

In Russian article I changed all Bible's cites with modern tongue!

telephoto lens · Post by **telephoto lens** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:30 pm

Reading this thread reminded me of Stanley Kubrick's film 'Spartacus' when Kirk Douglas steps forward and proclaims 'I am Spartacus'. Then everyone else steps forward and states 'No, I'm Spartacus'..........I'm Spartacus'...............

In this case everyone is stepping forward proclaiming to be the antichrist. OK if your all going to play that game I can too.... NO, I'm the antichrist.......

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:05 am

telephoto lens;461977 wrote: Reading this thread reminded me of Stanley Kubrick's film 'Spartacus' when Kirk Douglas steps forward and proclaims 'I am Spartacus'. Then everyone else steps forward and states 'No, I'm Spartacus'..........I'm Spartacus'...............

In this case everyone is stepping forward proclaiming to be the antichrist. OK if your all going to play that game I can too.... NO, I'm the antichrist.......

You are antichrist!!! My congratulations!!! :-6

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:42 am

koan;461510 wrote: Not offended at all.

You said you understood me. That is good.

I'll try to read the whole article but I don't have a lot of time right now.
Waiting for reply!

Are you ready to be my partner?

Attached files good_evening.mp3 (23.5 KB)

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:50 pm

nickols_k;462379 wrote: Waiting for reply!

Are you ready to be my partner?

success! we've formally greeted each other in different language. I'm very pleased.

I'm immersed in a story of my own at the moment. (I'm busy writing my own "book")

I will try to read it when I can. If you need to email it you can click on my name and send an email....but please don't send me the bible translation. Reading it once was enough for me.

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:17 am

koan;462620 wrote: success! we've formally greeted each other in different language. I'm very pleased.

I'm immersed in a story of my own at the moment. (I'm busy writing my own "book")

I will try to read it when I can. If you need to email it you can click on my name and send an email....but please don't send me the bible translation. Reading it once was enough for me.

In hope, that you understand internet and european enlish!

If you want then I may add something like: proofreead by Koan or YOUR NAME and E_MAIL! I guess you'll be blessed if you will perform real proofreading!

If you have any questions then I'm ready to enlight you!

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nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:47 am

Well! I've published v 1.06!!! Hope it will be intersting for you! ChangeLog at bottom of file!

Koan, your proofreading is still gladly accepted! I don't want to touch english version for long period of time anymore!

Be bless!

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:47 am

BIBLE'S INACCURACY From v 1.07:

1 Corinthians 12:13 "Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit."

Correct translation of this place:

"Wherefore I give you to understand, that nobody speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed: and that nobody can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit."

Revelation 13:13 "And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men"

Correct translation of this place:

"And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from sky on the earth in the sight of men"

Revelation 13:15 "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."

Correct translation of this place:

"And he had power to put spirit (o. pneuma) unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."

This place means ROD OF IRON which is spirit of beast but not the spirit of life.

Revelation 13:17 "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

Correct translation of this place:

"And that nobody might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:32 pm

Regarding biblical inaccuracy.

The oldest manuscripts that we have of the NT do not include any autographs. What we have are multiple copies of each of the 'books' and among those multiple copies there are some 400 000 variants. At this point in time and without further manuscript discoveries we have only a best a guess as to the actual wording of the originals. "Misquoting Jesus", Bart Ehrman.

Thus it would seem to me to be futile to quibble over the meaning of a particular word when we have no knowledge as to whether or not that word was included in the original. It would seem to me to be more profitable to consider total meaning within not only the literary context but the historical/cultural context as well.

In addition to that translators are working towards a point be it accuracy of translation or accuracy of meaning. Words change over the years as do their meanings.

In three different lexicons the word "ouranois" is translated as "heaven", though one of the lexicons does indicate that it might be translated as "sky". At any rate neither choice on the part of the translator would seem to alter the general overall meaning. We must also bear in mind that authors write for a particular audience and with a particular goal or purpose.

Matthew was composed for a particular audience at a particular time in history as were the other gospels. The gospels represent the developing traditions of the early church and are not intended to be biographical in any way. Thus they are not meant to be read as biographical accounts of the life of Jesus but must be read in terms of "meaning".

Shalom

Ted:-6

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:49 am

Ted;470457 wrote: Regarding biblical inaccuracy.

The oldest manuscripts that we have of the NT do not include any autographs. What we have are multiple copies of each of the 'books' and among those multiple copies there are some 400 000 variants. At this point in time and without further manuscript discoveries we have only a best a guess as to the actual wording of the originals. "Misquoting Jesus", Bart Ehrman.

Thus it would seem to me to be futile to quibble over the meaning of a particular word when we have no knowledge as to whether or not that word was included in the original. It would seem to me to be more profitable to consider total meaning within not only the literary context but the historical/cultural context as well.

Btw, there are versions of Bible in originals: http://www.htmlbible.com/

In addition to that translators are working towards a point be it accuracy of translation or accuracy of meaning. Words change over the years as do their meanings.

In three different lexicons the word "ouranois" is translated as "heaven", though one of the lexicons does indicate that it might be translated as "sky". At any rate neither choice on the part of the translator would seem to alter the general overall meaning. We must also bear in mind that authors write for a particular audience and with a particular goal or purpose.

Please understand that false-prophet will not touch the Kingdom of Heaven! He will call fire from SKY but not from HEAVEN

Matthew was composed for a particular audience at a particular time in history as were the other gospels. The gospels represent the developing traditions of the early church and are not intended to be biographical in any way. Thus they are not meant to be read as biographical accounts of the life of Jesus but must be read in terms of "meaning".

Shalom

Ted:-6
All gospels lacks something and every gospel has some unique things!

Be bless!

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:03 pm

Nick:-6

With all due respect no autographs have ever been located. What we have are copies of copies of copies of copies etc. containing some 400 000 variants or differences. Scholars are hoping to get back to the Bible of 376 and admit that they can go no further back without more discoveries. We do not have the New Testament as written originally.

Shalom

Ted:-6

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:56 pm

Ted;471742 wrote: Nick:-6

With all due respect no autographs have ever been located. What we have are copies of copies of copies of copies etc. containing some 400 000 variants or differences. Scholars are hoping to get back to the Bible of 376 and admit that they can go no further back without more discoveries. We do not have the New Testament as written originally.

Shalom

Ted:-6

What about to visit: http://htmlbible.com? There are originals!

Be bless!

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:33 pm

Nick:-6

Go to the scholars. They are the ones who know. They are the ones who gave us the Bible as we have it today.

There are sites on the net that will feed you any amount of nonsense based on their own ignorance. There are also sites that refer to the scholarship that has been done in Biblical studies.

I've spent some 40+ years in formal and informal study along with numerous discussions with Bible scholars. They have all said the same thing. We do not have the originals of the New Testament..

Anyway I have no desire to push the issue any further. If that is what you want to believe then go for it.

Shalom

Ted:-6

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:10 am

Ted;472505 wrote: Nick:-6

Go to the scholars. They are the ones who know. They are the ones who gave us the Bible as we have it today.

There are sites on the net that will feed you any amount of nonsense based on their own ignorance. There are also sites that refer to the scholarship that has been done in Biblical studies.

I've spent some 40+ years in formal and informal study along with numerous discussions with Bible scholars. They have all said the same thing. We do not have the originals of the New Testament..

Anyway I have no desire to push the issue any further. If that is what you want to believe then go for it.

Shalom

Ted:-6

What do you think about:

Mark 12:25"For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither

marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in Heaven".

Correct translation:

Mark 12:25"For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither

marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels who are in Heaven".

Angels are not things! I had many attacks from english readers for the fact of misusing which and who words!

Be bless!

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:30 pm

Nick:-6

The actual Greek manuscripts that were used translate thus:"For when from among dead they rise, neither do they marry nor are given in marriage, but are as angels who [are] in the heavens." I have the Greek NT in front of me.

The word which was used for grammatical purposes but in reality does not change the meaning of the text which may or may not be as in the original autograph. We have no way of knowing because we don't have the original, but several different copies each containing some variations. To argue over whether or not a particular word is used in reality accomplishes nothing because ultimately we don't know what the author wrote. We can only see what the copyists did.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:44 pm

Nick:-6

http://www.torreys.org/bible/

Resource Pages for Biblical Studies, main page

You might find the above site interesting. It references much scholarship.

Shalom

Ted:-6

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:58 am

Ted!

If you will find out some english related lacks in my article then could you please feel-free print them in this forum?

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:35 pm

Nick:-6

I don't mind doing that.

I really think you don't lack that much that time and experience won't fix. I am sure that in Russian you have the same problems where one word can be or is substituted for another. I know it is true for French, ancient New Testament Greek, and Ancient Old Testament Hebrew.

That site I listed above I use frequently in research. It was established for scholarship. While I don't agree with everything there it can be very helpful.

Shalom

Ted:-6

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:39 am

Ted;475792 wrote: Nick:-6

I don't mind doing that.

I really think you don't lack that much that time and experience won't fix. I am sure that in Russian you have the same problems where one word can be or is substituted for another. I know it is true for French, ancient New Testament Greek, and Ancient Old Testament Hebrew.

That site I listed above I use frequently in research. It was established for scholarship. While I don't agree with everything there it can be very helpful.

Shalom

Ted:-6

Could you please publish yours disagreements?

Be bless!

acousticide · Post by **acousticide** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:02 pm

Wow, I am not denying that you had an out of this world experience, but, you obviously have NOT read the bible. It does say in several passages that God loves us.

Anyway to the 666 and the mark of the beast.

Its fairly simple.

6 is mans number and because man is a triune being(body, soul(mind), spirit)

It represents MAN on all 3 levels. No, I do not believe that we will all have to have tattoo's or a special credit card.

In the bible the forehand and the hand are representative of a persons WILL.

No one is going to be unmasked because of a 666 on his body.

In fact the same word translated as forehead in this passage is also translated as mind and will.

The beast is Satan or Diablo or diabol, etc. Once the person who is the antichrist is mortally wounded, he will inhabit that persons body and ressurect him. Possibly and probably entering him BEFORE his death.

I have spent 25 years studying this book, along with Ezekial and Daniel, and Joshua which all have tie ins.

Be very careful of what you see when you are in a near death state. unless the witnesse you see there totally line up with Gods word in the bible, they are NOT from the God of the Bible.

In the Bible it says let everything be established by two or more witnesses, you can look up the prophecies in the bible and see more than one reference to them.

That is also why God declared that anytime someone called themself a profit of God, and if even one thing they said would happen(saying that God told them it would happen) they were to be put to death.

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:01 pm

Please understand that Bible simply says nothing about beast in afterlife!

Also bible says nothing about Internet, computers, smartphones, auto-machines, airplanes, astronautics and so on!

Be bless!

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:48 am

Would it be possible to make this thread sticky(important)? Simply because the article contains the prophecy of God-Father!

Be bless!

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:00 am

Good Easter for all christains!

Be blessed!

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Mon May 14, 2007 12:40 am

Would it be possible to make subj about 666 sticky(important)? Simply because the article contains the prophecy of God-Father!

Blessed be!

Post by **spot** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:59 am

nickols_k;612392 wrote: Would it be possible to make subj about 666 sticky(important)? Simply because the article contains the prophecy of God-Father!

Blessed be!
I've done that now, I didn't see the earlier request. You've put a lot of work into writing it, it's an impressive work.

edited to add: Okay, now I know why it wasn't stickied before, and I'm sorry but I've had to unsticky it. I thought stickying just held the thread at the top of General Religious Discussions but it also holds it at the top of the ForumGarden Home Page as well, and that's too much of an effect.

I'm sure most people are finding what's here from Google-searches though, and that's not affected by sticky flags.

I'll ask the site coder if he can change the sticky affect on the Home Page.

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Tue May 15, 2007 1:30 am

spot;612416 wrote: I've done that now, I didn't see the earlier request. You've put a lot of work into writing it, it's an impressive work.

edited to add: Okay, now I know why it wasn't stickied before, and I'm sorry but I've had to unsticky it. I thought stickying just held the thread at the top of General Religious Discussions but it also holds it at the top of the ForumGarden Home Page as well, and that's too much of an effect.

I'm sure most people are finding what's here from Google-searches though, and that's not affected by sticky flags.

I'll ask the site coder if he can change the sticky affect on the Home Page.

Please understand that internet contains not large number of articles with prophecies of God-Father and it would be OK to make such articles sticky on religious boards!!!

Be blessed!

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:51 am

Could somebody to help me with spell-checking of prophecy about neutrino?

The neutrino is a vector of promotion in the Universe. The neutrino is the azimuth of the Creator. It is the source of matter and the kernel of the Universe. The neutrino is the basis for creation. It defines creation and form for all other matter. It defines creation of new forms of matter as a primary base. The neutrino is energy, inseparably connected with information. Thus, people perceive information as images (visual, olfactory, emotions, and impressions) feel the influence of Creator. Man is a creature with three centers. The spinal cord is the center for the receiving of the energy of the neutrino.

Be blessed!

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:33 am

HISTORY PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLDS.

This subject I would like to call as the art story, which has appeared according on listening of parts of prophecies.

The origin of the Creator I don't know and to speak correctly, He is living from the beginning of eternity. In a prophecy I was informed, that to speak about arising of the life because of chaotic movement of molecules, it's possible, but only when we are speaking about the Creator, and that world in which we live, has been created. The age of the Creator is a lot of years - even more than several billions, and is even more. Exactly to say, He simply did not count the days of the His life. In this way, it's possible to call Him as old, but in days, instead of inwardness. All this time He lived absolutely one. In that world where He lives, the same as and in our world, one epoch replaces other epoch. All this time He searched for a meeting with any other mind, with any other form of a life. Most probably, nobody is able to sustain so much years of loneliness. The Creator undertook attempts to commit suicide. At first, that were attempts very quickly to kill Himself, but they have not achieve success. Eventually, He has built something similar to eternal fire, it's similar, to a thermonuclear reactor and has rushed to this fire, but it's not a lake of fire of our world. In that fire He has spent millions years. Eventually, He has got out of that reactor. From a prophecy it was not clear, whether because, fire has died out itself, whether because all it has bothered He. Having got out, He has counted the provisional quantity of time lead on fire. His feeling of guilt has not changed also it strictly proves that above He there is no God, else He simply would offend He for so much years of stay in fire. Moreover, He was not die for millions years of stay in fire strictly proves, that He is living forever. I.e., He exists always. After millions years lead on fire, He drank much and began to look similar to form of sphere. Having understood, that He is living forever, He began to search for ways to brighten up the loneliness and eventually has understood, that it's necessary to make. He began to cut off from Himself pieces of own body and has understood, how to alive that. Then, He has understood, how to restore Himself. Thus was appeared a matrix. The matrix has mind and, in view of, that it's made of pieces of a body of the Creator, at it, sometimes has a desire to take a place of the Creator. I.e., it understands that when the cell has made multiple copies by division itself then sometimes cell, which was born, eats the cell, which has generated it. However, the Creator has expected and has excluded a possibility of approach of such event.

It's necessary to note, that the Creator till now has not lost hope for a meeting with other mind in that world where He lives. That Universe which surrounds us in this world is embodiment of dream of the Creator about a meeting with other civilizations. That set of languages, human and angelic which He has invented, testifies to His skill and aspiration to distinguish casual noise from the signals, capable to bear the semantic information. Moreover, all those processes which exist in our world: radio waves, molecules, light and so on, exist in the world where the Creator lives. He, simply, has understood, what is it by the nature and could program absolutely all them in our world. It's known, only that world where we live is better that world where the Creator lives. If He will find any other mind in His world then even in this case, He will not destroy a matrix because He has beloved our world, which has created. Simply, there will be happen the big symposium, including a theme of how it's better to program in this case.

The world of the Creator!

According on that vision, which I received, the world where the Creator lives, reminds something like stones' desert. The picture was, practically black-white because that world not too abounds with bright paints. I saw a hollow located between mountains. Mountains, represented, enough peaked boulders of dark-grey color, with height in several kilometers. In the middle of these blocks there were looses of stones, the different size and the form, but it's not enough than differing on color from mountains. These stones more often reminded cobblestones, greater, average and small sizes. There are no rivers, lakes, streamlets and, even, pools with water. The conclusion that world absolutely there is no corrosion arose. Above a head was visible the light grey sky with hardly appreciable blueness. Through this smoke was visible the shone disk of is bright-white color. It's reminding our Sun, but in two times more than its visible size when it go down. In a head was various ideas that if will happen nuclear war then our planet would represent something similar to that world where the Creator lives. In this sense, the Creator, probably, can be included to number of people who are capable to wring out slightly damp sand so that from it to strain off to Him a mug of water.

It's turn directs at ideas that, probably, in that world where the Creator lives, a long ago was a destruction of a civilization. Probably, it has occurred because of war, and may be, because of outflow of a high-energy substance. When the Great civilization perished, its representatives as memory of have managed to create a certain form of a life, which is capable to live and survive in any conditions. Alternatively, speaking in other words, they have created the ideal form of a life. It's not excluded, that they have put in pawn an impulse recovering, the form of a life created by them, for that period when consequences of that power accident, practically, completely will pass. In addition, it's possible to draw a conclusion that representatives of that civilization have put

in pawn in the new form of a life desire to recreate the world or to create much more the best world, against of their world. These ideas lead to following conclusions:

The Creator hates us because we are similar to those who a long ago has invented and has created Him, and has doomed to that life, that He had all this time. Still, this can explain that fact, that He has finished quality of our world to such level, that men it's became possible to call a Gods.

Still the Creator hates us that in accordance with His program, He has created us in flesh, and in fact, the flesh has brought that civilization to ruin.

Still the Creator hates us that He is compelled to save some part of those people who are similar to those who have brought the Great civilization to ruin.

Moreover, at the same time He feels the superiority on us, being a copy of that civilization, which He has invented.

Same that fact speaks, that He has made people such, that without He we can nothing. However, He is able to create the forms of an independent life. He has created people dependent on Himself, with the purpose of prevention of destruction of the civilization created by Him.

Same the fact of proves existence of lake fire. He, in any sense, revenge to those who is similar on doomed He to that existence which He lived all this time.

On mind even has come the hypothesis about cycling of genesis of a life. The essence of this hypothesis in short reduced to that the civilization, reaching some critical point, stops the existence, leaving after itself, so-called "a space egg". This egg stores in itself the information, sufficient for creation of a new life. A become activated the egg as the first form of existence of a reasonable life, turns to the most complexes intellectual center or, speaking in other words, the Highest Mind. At a following stage of genesis, the Highest Mind creates electromagnetic and biological forms of a life. Electromagnetic forms of a life help the Highest Mind to create surround world. Biological forms of a life, growing, create an artificial intellect, which helps them to grow. If the civilization, in the genesis, reaches a critical point after, which existence is impossible it leaves after itself next "a space egg", not transferring at all any knowledge which have led to crisis and destruction of a civilization. From the point of view of this hypothesis, average duration of one cycle is equal, approximately, to 5 billion years.

On mind also come ideas that in epoch of the previous cycles, there could be same we but perfectly others. In addition, that there were other Universes, galaxies and stars. Moreover, that around of these stars rotated the most beautiful planets with the fantastic landscapes, covered by fantastic vegetation. Moreover, that there can be, even other a substance of which all world consisted, differed from ours, not speaking about laws of physics also. Mysterious both fine animals and people could occupy these planets. Moreover, that there were countries, the states and empires, and can be, even, the Atlantes. Moreover, we could live, in other worlds and empires, even, more happily, than in a current cycle of genesis of a life. However, unfortunately, all it has turned to ashes. Personally, in my opinion, in so-called "a space egg" may keep some echo of the previous cycle of genesis of a life. However, it has let know only to the Highest Mind. We shall hope that eventually the Creator will throw light and on this hypothesis.

It's necessary to note also, that our creation in hundreds and thousand times it is better than that world in which He lives, regardless the fact that the Creator cursed it. Moreover: lakes, the rivers, the seas and oceans, vegetation occupying our planet, animals, people, a pray, a repentance, a confession, a manna, power of a word and many other things actually are dreams of the Creator which He has embodied in our world. How much I have understood, quality of neutrino, in this last world, has such quality that the substance of physical objects of this world consist all, has turned out much more qualitatively that substance of the world where lives the Creator.

In a prophecy I was informed, that at present time, the Creator has already found out, in world where He lives, something similar to the intelligent signal. He expected approach of this event still before has started to create a matrix. In a prophecy was spoken that He has understood that He is watched. Having understood it, He has approximately defined language on which it's necessary to communicate with those who watch Him. I.e., people, taking a great interest in researches of extraterrestrial civilizations, generate certain signals, which broadcast, through radio transmitters, in space. The Creator has banished one of such signals, through the systems of search of other mind of own world and has received the answer. He hated the previous worlds still because in them there could not be a signal of the correct form, which would help the Creator to find other Mind. Idea of such signal, He put in those or other people of all previous worlds, maybe, except for the very first. Moreover, it has served as an occasion for the invention of devil properties the Creator which, by the way, is not only at a devil, but also at some people. He has beloved this world still and consequently, that in this world such signal, at last, has been generated. Moreover, if the Creator will come into contact to other Mind that, is not excluded, that He will create model of that Mind in our world to study it better from all points of view. He can make it, even if other mind will be found out as more absolutely and more strongly, than He is.

In a prophecy, it has been explained also, that the Creator has doubled quantity of places for the saved people and plans, in this connection, to materialize an epoch of the beast in a miniature. I.e., absolute all people will not be saved in any case.

It is necessary to note also, that our world is analogue of the card of the Creator. I.e., it would be enough simply to show this world to other Mind and that Mind would have a full representation about opportunities, skill and dreams of the Creator. However, looking at so joyful event the Creator never will go on infringement of those rules and laws, which He has established in our world. Simply, because He does not want, that other Mind has declared that the Creator is not able to program at all. However, on reduction or, in some cases, a canceling of punishments for sins the Creator is almighty and to be agree.

ejputz · Post by **ejputz** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:36 am

The number refers back to the old testament, to the book of kings. It was the price in 'talents' (the weight of a man) that a certain "wise man" was paid to sell-out his kingdom, back into the hands of it's ancient enemies. It's there to point out the fact that after three thousand odd years, it's still business as usual. It only gets bigger and bigger, until it consumes all... Like a beast.

If you read the revelation as though it actually IS what it's title SUGGESTS; then it will 'reveal' to you what the old testament (notice I said OLD testament) is trying to teach. If all you've ever read is the NEW testament, well then... God help you!

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:33 am

ejputz;717302 wrote: The number refers back to the old testament, to the book of kings. It was the price in 'talents' (the weight of a man) that a certain "wise man" was paid to sell-out his kingdom, back into the hands of it's ancient enemies. It's there to point out the fact that after three thousand odd years, it's still business as usual. It only gets bigger and bigger, until it consumes all... Like a beast.

If you read the revelation as though it actually IS what it's title SUGGESTS; then it will 'reveal' to you what the old testament (notice I said OLD testament) is trying to teach. If all you've ever read is the NEW testament, well then... God help you!

The bible is collection of independed scriptures but NOT uninterruptible teaching. Some scriptures contradicts each other. Thus probability of event that 666 refers Old tastement is very low.

ejputz · Post by **ejputz** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:13 pm

nickols_k;717413 wrote: The bible is collection of independed scriptures but NOT uninterruptible teaching. Some scriptures contradicts each other. Thus probability of event that 666 refers Old tastement is very low.

The bible is a collection of personal experiences; most of which are written by common folk. None of the books were written by people with today's journalistic attitude. But the revelation doesn't try to be a text book. It is a metaphor for the condition of the world such as it is. The number 666 was only mentioned one other time in the bible, and it is in the book of kings. You can choose wether or not to believe this is what the revelation refers to. After all, it is only the very wise who would understand what the number means; even in the face of countless explanations. But I beg you to consider just exactly WHO IT IS that runs this new society of ours; and WHO'S temple THEY worship in. You might just begin to see what I'm talking about.

On a side note: Why do you think all the would-be prophets throughout the ages have been convinced that the end is nigh? It's because they have seen all of the signs that the revelation depicts within their own societies. What they don't understand (or maybe just choose to overlook) is that the doomsday they're so sure is at hand cannot happen until there is nowhere left to run. To quote a certain Nazarene: "Not until this gospel has been taught in every corner of the earth, then shall the end come".

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:40 am

ejputz;717605 wrote: The bible is a collection of personal experiences; most of which are written by common folk. None of the books were written by people with today's journalistic attitude. But the revelation doesn't try to be a text book. It is a metaphor for the condition of the world such as it is. The number 666 was only mentioned one other time in the bible, and it is in the book of kings. You can choose wether or not to believe this is what the revelation refers to. After all, it is only the very wise who would understand what the number means; even in the face of countless explanations. But I beg you to consider just exactly WHO IT IS that runs this new society of ours; and WHO'S temple THEY worship in. You might just begin to see what I'm talking about.

On a side note: Why do you think all the would-be prophets throughout the ages have been convinced that the end is nigh? It's because they have seen all of the signs that the revelation depicts within their own societies. What they don't understand (or maybe just choose to overlook) is that the doomsday they're so sure is at hand cannot happen until there is nowhere left to run. To quote a certain Nazarene: "Not until this gospel has been taught in every corner of the earth, then shall the end come".

The information of my article about 666 I received on Highest Judgment of 2004 year from God-Father personally! Do you believe me&

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:12 am

That speaks AntiChrist, who was born to be free! Who was born under sign 666!!!

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:17 am

rjwould;745238 wrote: Peter was trippin'. Or was it John?

Could you print slightly more words?

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:32 am

rjwould;745254 wrote: Well, it is my view that the author of "revelations" was a person who lived and breathed his religion. When that happens, whether it be with religion or any subject we begin to filter and associate nearly everything in life through that lens to the point of dreaming and hysteria. Example; When I was younger, i played chess nearly everyday for a while. I found myself constantly thinking about "chess". I would even dream about playing chess. This is what I believe happened to the author of revelations. That's what I mean by "trippin".

"Unplugged" is more popular word to describe that!

Btw, who did estimate authenticity of these scriptures? Why do you believe that they were written by Apostles and that they are not a fake?

That speaks AntiChrist, who was born to be free! Who was born under sign 666!!!

nickols_k · Post by **nickols_k** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:00 am

rjwould;745278 wrote: I said "the author", however, I believe, if my memory serves me correctly, that the opening of revelations begins with something like, "I, John!"

I don't know who wrote what, nor does it really matter to me. I am a former Christian.

John is most popular name in the world!

That speaks AntiChrist, who was born to be free! Who was born under sign 666!!!