What iIs It About Water?

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:53 pm

30 minutes ago I was beat, tired, exhausted and not in the best of moods. Now, having taken a very hot shower followed by a cold shower, I feel like 3/4 of a million bucks and am ready to rock and roll. My astrological sign is Cancer and I suspect that those that are into Astrology would say, "of course you feel better, you are Cancer the crab". I would have a hard time living my life without access to water on a regular basis. I'm afraid I could not have handled living during the Middle Ages

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:40 pm

Lon;721194 wrote: 30 minutes ago I was beat, tired, exhausted and not in the best of moods. Now, having taken a very hot shower followed by a cold shower, I feel like 3/4 of a million bucks and am ready to rock and roll. My astrological sign is Cancer and I suspect that those that are into Astrology would say, "of course you feel better, you are Cancer the crab". I would have a hard time living my life without access to water on a regular basis. I'm afraid I could not have handled living during the Middle Ages

I think its because we all used to have little flippers and stumpy legs and lived in the sea.

Then one day one of us crawled out of the sea and onto land while the rest of us followed.

So its nostalgia I guess.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:05 pm

Nomad;721228 wrote: I think its because we all used to have little flippers and stumpy legs and lived in the sea.

Then one day one of us crawled out of the sea and onto land while the rest of us followed.

So its nostalgia I guess.

:yh_rotfl

Nomad, that is hysterical...remember that I'm still a mermaid living in the sea and I'm not gonna leave ever.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:16 pm

Water is the universal solvent. It is life giving, life sustaining. Our bodies are largely water. It is a very underrated mystical substance, IMO.

Plus you alternated hot and cold showers which perked up your whole inner system. But you're right, there is definitely something about water.

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:34 pm

I thought this was going to be the old thread of Lon's with the girl that had big boobies!!!......which explains my hesitancy......

:D

I LOVE water...I get teased about my shower habit!--I love to take showers....and I get teased about how much water I drink too....but I'm thankful for water just the same!

moonpie · Post by **moonpie** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:41 pm

We all are very spoiled people, and once we lose what we are so used to having at our finger tips, we feel like we are going insane. I could not imagine not having water to shower with in the a.m., or being able to go get a cold glass of water.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:52 am

Nomad;721228 wrote: I think its because we all used to have little flippers and stumpy legs and lived in the sea.

Then one day one of us crawled out of the sea and onto land while the rest of us followed.

So its nostalgia I guess.

You must have been reading Elaine Morgan (The Descent of Woman, The Aquatic Ape, etc). That's exactly her theory - when the human race cane down from the trees due to errosion of habitat they found the savahnna too tough for them so moved to live in the coastal margin and adapted to life in the water developing such things as long hair for the babies to hold on to and an upright stance to keep the head high.

It was only several hundred thousand years later that these partially aquatic primates moved back onto land and re-adapted to terrestrial living.

Post by **spot** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:59 am

RedGlitter;721283 wrote: Water is the universal solvent.I had it in mind that a half-and-half mix of anhydrous sulphuric and nitric acids had a better claim to that title but since Lon's not looking to be dissolved water's fine.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:15 am

I advise you to read "H2O, A Biography of Water" its a great read!

As any other chemist would tell you that Water is a most remarkable substance and several unique properties as a solvent, in terms of its phases (i.e. its less dense as a solid than a liquid, it has a a very high boiling point in its liquid phase), its bonding structure , latent energy, etc etc, it really is a completey unique substance, and its still being studied as there are unusual things about its properties that we don't completely understand. Unfortunatly Homeopaths use this lack of knowledge to claim results for homeopathic remedies that can't work. That said though, even something as every day as water has a very strange side, nature is fascinating isn't it?

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:20 am

spot;721359 wrote: I had it in mind that a half-and-half mix of anhydrous sulphuric and nitric acids had a better claim to that title but since Lon's not looking to be dissolved water's fine.

;)....

This is inappropo to the thread but when you mentioned sulphuric acid, it reminded me. A former Los Angeles coroner included in his book about a couple of men, friends, who had had a falling out. One worked at a factory that had access to sulphuric (or maybe it was muriatic) acid. The other man disappeared. Cops ended up searching the house and they found two teeth in the bathtub drain trap. The man had been dissolved with acid and washed down the drain. I'm not making this up and even though I question how that could be, it's supposedly correct according to the coroner.

His book is called Coroner and his name is Noguchi. It came out in 1983 and discussed several celebrity deaths and ones that were just plain weird. It was an interesting book.

My apology for sidetracking the thread.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:36 am

RedGlitter;721364 wrote:

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This is inappropo to the thread but when you mentioned sulphuric acid, it reminded me. A former Los Angeles coroner included in his book about a couple of men, friends, who had had a falling out. One worked at a factory that had access to sulphuric (or maybe it was muriatic) acid. The other man disappeared. Cops ended up searching the house and they found two teeth in the bathtub drain trap. The man had been dissolved with acid and washed down the drain. I'm not making this up and even though I question how that could be, it's supposedly correct according to the coroner.

His book is called Coroner and his name is Noguchi. It came out in 1983 and discussed several celebrity deaths and ones that were just plain weird. It was an interesting book.

My apology for sidetracking the thread.

No its interesting. You can digest a human body with a very strong molecular acid, but you really need it to be of a high molarity (which is a measure of an acids strength) and it also takes a lot of time. The other problem would be the fumes and the smelland the amount you would need, human bones are tough and they are not easily destroyed by acids. Myabe he digested the softer materials, and then ground up the bones and washed them away, (hmmmn, all a bit morbid). Anyway, back to the water.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:06 am

Galbally;721366 wrote: No its interesting. You can digest a human body with a very strong molecular acid, but you really need it to be of a high molarity (which is a measure of an acids strength) and it also takes a lot of time. The other problem would be the fumes and the smelland the amount you would need, human bones are tough and they are not easily destroyed by acids. Myabe he digested the softer materials, and then ground up the bones and washed them away, (hmmmn, all a bit morbid). Anyway, back to the water.

Thanks Galbally! You know, I'm always learning new stuff at FG but I think I learn the most from you, Bryn and Spot. I always enjoy that.

But yes back to the water. I often find myself in the shower or washing dishes when I stop and take a handful of water and think "just what IS this stuff?" That it's colorless and pretty much scentless always intrigues me.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:30 am

spot;721359 wrote: I had it in mind that a half-and-half mix of anhydrous sulphuric and nitric acids had a better claim to that title but since Lon's not looking to be dissolved water's fine.

I'd choose lime for dissolving.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:36 am

Lon;721425 wrote: I'd choose lime for dissolving.

Again, it takes a long time and you would need the pH of the quicklime to be very high for it to completely dissolve a body, its an interesting question about whether a very strong base or a strong acid would be better for dissolving all human body tissue, I would imagine that a very concentrated molecular acid like say 20M sulfuric or hydrochloric would be best, but there are more exotic ones that could be better, but I know as a chemist that very basic (i.e. high pH) materials can also be extremely, extremely corrosive. I am sure they have looked at this one already, its getting a bit side-tracked and a bit grim, so I am gonna stop now.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:44 am

Galbally;721431 wrote: Again, it takes a long time and you would need the pH of the quicklime to be very high for it to completely dissolve a body, its an interesting question about whether a very strong base or a strong acid would be better for dissolving all human body tissue, I would imagine that a very concentrated molecular acid like say 20M sulfuric or hydrochloric would be best, but there are more exotic ones that could be better, but I know as a chemist that very basic (i.e. high pH) materials can also be extremely, extremely corrosive. I am sure they have looked at this one already, its getting a bit side-tracked and a bit grim, so I am gonna stop now.

Thats a viable solution but messy and time consuming. A chain saw, plastic yard bags and suitable weights followed by an enjoyable fishing trip is quicker.

But its a very individual choice.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:08 am

Nomad;721435 wrote: Thats a viable solution but messy and time consuming. A chain saw, plastic yard bags and suitable weights followed by an enjoyable fishing trip is quicker.

But its a very individual choice.

Quite Nomad, it is indeed a individual decision, if not also a somewhat macabre one.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:16 am

Galbally;721443 wrote: Quite Nomad, it is indeed a individual decision, if not also a somewhat macabre one.

Oh so Im the bad guy here. Just because I prefer a chainsaw doesnt make me a sloppy butcher.

I like the hands on approach.

I dont think that makes me Hitler.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:41 am

:wah:

Good grief.

;)

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:40 pm

Actually just feeding the body to pigs would be much more efficient (and easier).

Indian Princess · Post by **Indian Princess** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:11 am

Were ya singin in the shower Lon?:wah:

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:34 am

Lon;721194 wrote: 30 minutes ago I was beat, tired, exhausted and not in the best of moods. Now, having taken a very hot shower followed by a cold shower, I feel like 3/4 of a million bucks and am ready to rock and roll. My astrological sign is Cancer and I suspect that those that are into Astrology would say, "of course you feel better, you are Cancer the crab". I would have a hard time living my life without access to water on a regular basis. I'm afraid I could not have handled living during the Middle Ages

I'm like you about water but I always thought it did have something to do with the fact that I'm a pisces.

:-6