I was just sent this by a friend, so thought i would share, incase you didn't know about this
A bit of useful advice - verified by the Dorset Police.
The number does work from a mobile. This actually happened to someone's
daughter.
Lauren was 19 yrs old and in college. This story takes place over the
Christmas/New Year's holiday break. It was the Saturday before New Year and
it was about 1.00pm in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a
friend, when an UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put its lights
on.
Lauren's parents have 4 children (of various ages) and have always told them
never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the road, but rather
wait until they get to a service station, etc So Lauren remembered her
parents' advice, and telephoned 112 from her mobile phone. This connected
her to the police dispatcher she told the dispatcher that there was an
unmarked police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her and
that she would not pull over right away but wait until she was in a service
station or busy area.
The dispatcher checked to see if there was a police car where she was and
there wasn't and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had
back-up already on the way. Ten minutes later 4 police cars surrounded her
and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground...... ..the
man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes. I never knew that
bit of advice, but especially for a woman alone in a car, you do not have to
pull over for an UNMARKED car.
Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a 'safe'
place. You obviously need to make some signals that you acknowledge them
I.e., put on your hazard lights) or call 112 like Lauren did.
Too bad the mobile phone companies don't give you this little bit of
wonderful information. So now it's your turn to let your friends know about
112 (112 is an emergency number on your mobile that takes you straight to
the police because 999 does not work if you have no signal). This is good
information that I did not know!
Please pass on to all your friends, especially any females.
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:-3 wow... cheers for that kinks !
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Variations:
- A March 2002 version changes the girl's name from Lauren to Lisa.An October 2003 version moves the action to Australia. Once again, 19-year-old Lauren barely escapes disaster, but does so this time by using the "No. 112 feature" on her cell phone to summon help.A July 2004 version shifted the story to Canada. Yet again, 19-year-old Lauren barely escapes disaster, but in this instance she does so by dialing *677. (The number *677, aka *OPP, is the non-emergency cell caller line of the Ontario Provincial Police.)A March 2006 version shifted the story to Dorset. As always, 19-year-old Lauren barely gets away from the horror that would otherwise have befallen her, but in this instance she does so by dialing 112. (112 and 999 are the emergency numbers in the United Kingdom.)
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/mayhem/fakecop.asp
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Even though this story is on snopes. People do pretend to be cops in in unmarked cars. So the advice is pretty much true. A couple weeks ago there was someone in Amarillo pulling women over in an unmarked car, and he was not an officer.
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Too bad the mobile phone companies don't give you this little bit of
wonderful information. So now it's your turn to let your friends know about
112 (112 is an emergency number on your mobile that takes you straight to
the police because 999 does not work if you have no signal). This is good
information that I did not know!
that bit is also true as I received this email sometime last year and asked my ladycop friend who verified it....
Cheers for the headsup Kinky:wah:
wonderful information. So now it's your turn to let your friends know about
112 (112 is an emergency number on your mobile that takes you straight to
the police because 999 does not work if you have no signal). This is good
information that I did not know!
that bit is also true as I received this email sometime last year and asked my ladycop friend who verified it....
Cheers for the headsup Kinky:wah:
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Sheryl;726632 wrote: Even though this story is on snopes. People do pretend to be cops in in unmarked cars. So the advice is pretty much true. A couple weeks ago there was someone in Amarillo pulling women over in an unmarked car, and he was not an officer.
Surely the sensible thing to do is to produce a genuine news story of a verifiable incident then? You can't imagine that a real-life copy of this event wouldn't have the national news channels screaming with excitement. Where did you hear about the Amarillo report, let's go get a copy of that one and bring it into play.
Surely the sensible thing to do is to produce a genuine news story of a verifiable incident then? You can't imagine that a real-life copy of this event wouldn't have the national news channels screaming with excitement. Where did you hear about the Amarillo report, let's go get a copy of that one and bring it into play.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
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Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
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spot;726848 wrote: Surely the sensible thing to do is to produce a genuine news story of a verifiable incident then? You can't imagine that a real-life copy of this event wouldn't have the national news channels screaming with excitement. Where did you hear about the Amarillo report, let's go get a copy of that one and bring it into play.
If it gets the message across.... what does it matter if it's a real story or not?
The point is that it COULD very easily happen!!
If it gets the message across.... what does it matter if it's a real story or not?
The point is that it COULD very easily happen!!
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Speaking of unmarked cars:
True story,
A friend of mine was driving from Montreal to Toronto and was speeding (can’t remember how fast but around 100 mps). As he passed an unmarked car the lights come on and he is chased. Figuring he is caught, he pulls over, the light turn off and the car continues on.
He is think what the hell, and takes off again, catches up to the car and look inside, there are two men in the from seat, and two kids in the back, so off he goes again. Sure enough, the lights come on again and he is chased. Again he pulls over and the same thing happens again.
Frustrated, he calls the police and advises them of a car impersonating a police car, they ask where he is and so forth.
Again he goes off and catches up with the car advising the police of his position, then after passing an exit, and number of police cars enter the highway and chance the unmarked car and pull it over. My friend also stops to see what is going on.
It turns out that it was an undercover please car giving a ‘discrete’ escort to two kids who needed to make a court appearance in Toronto. The police apologised to my friend for the trouble, and kindly asked him to slow down, and to forget the whole thing.
True story,
A friend of mine was driving from Montreal to Toronto and was speeding (can’t remember how fast but around 100 mps). As he passed an unmarked car the lights come on and he is chased. Figuring he is caught, he pulls over, the light turn off and the car continues on.
He is think what the hell, and takes off again, catches up to the car and look inside, there are two men in the from seat, and two kids in the back, so off he goes again. Sure enough, the lights come on again and he is chased. Again he pulls over and the same thing happens again.
Frustrated, he calls the police and advises them of a car impersonating a police car, they ask where he is and so forth.
Again he goes off and catches up with the car advising the police of his position, then after passing an exit, and number of police cars enter the highway and chance the unmarked car and pull it over. My friend also stops to see what is going on.
It turns out that it was an undercover please car giving a ‘discrete’ escort to two kids who needed to make a court appearance in Toronto. The police apologised to my friend for the trouble, and kindly asked him to slow down, and to forget the whole thing.
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summerishere;726850 wrote: If it gets the message across.... what does it matter if it's a real story or not?
The point is that it COULD very easily happen!!
The same's true of "don't open emails about X it's a virus". There's a difference between truth and fiction. This is fiction masquerading as truth. Let's go find us some truth instead. I dislike scaring people with fiction.
The point is that it COULD very easily happen!!
The same's true of "don't open emails about X it's a virus". There's a difference between truth and fiction. This is fiction masquerading as truth. Let's go find us some truth instead. I dislike scaring people with fiction.
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Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;726855 wrote: The same's true of "don't open emails about X it's a virus". There's a difference between truth and fiction. This is fiction masquerading as truth. Let's go find us some truth instead. I dislike scaring people with fiction.
well... we all at some point or other get one of those e mails about viruses... so we learn to ignore them.... but a story such as this, shouldn't be ignored.. even if it's fiction, I'm sure something similar HAS happened to someone in the past... I think warnings are good... they keep us alert.
well... we all at some point or other get one of those e mails about viruses... so we learn to ignore them.... but a story such as this, shouldn't be ignored.. even if it's fiction, I'm sure something similar HAS happened to someone in the past... I think warnings are good... they keep us alert.
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Well i'm sorry for causing trouble, i did get this from a good friend of mine and thought i was doing the right thing by passing it on 
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kinks;726450 wrote: I was just sent this by a friend, so thought i would share, incase you didn't know about this
A bit of useful advice - verified by the Dorset Police.
The number does work from a mobile. This actually happened to someone's
daughter.
Lauren was 19 yrs old and in college. This story takes place over the
Christmas/New Year's holiday break. It was the Saturday before New Year and
it was about 1.00pm in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a
friend, when an UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put its lights
on.
Lauren's parents have 4 children (of various ages) and have always told them
never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the road, but rather
wait until they get to a service station, etc So Lauren remembered her
parents' advice, and telephoned 112 from her mobile phone. This connected
her to the police dispatcher she told the dispatcher that there was an
unmarked police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her and
that she would not pull over right away but wait until she was in a service
station or busy area.
The dispatcher checked to see if there was a police car where she was and
there wasn't and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had
back-up already on the way. Ten minutes later 4 police cars surrounded her
and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground...... ..the
man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes. I never knew that
bit of advice, but especially for a woman alone in a car, you do not have to
pull over for an UNMARKED car.
Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a 'safe'
place. You obviously need to make some signals that you acknowledge them
I.e., put on your hazard lights) or call 112 like Lauren did.
Too bad the mobile phone companies don't give you this little bit of
wonderful information. So now it's your turn to let your friends know about
112 (112 is an emergency number on your mobile that takes you straight to
the police because 999 does not work if you have no signal). This is good
information that I did not know!
Please pass on to all your friends, especially any females.
That has been doing the rounds here.
In the one I recieved it says don't stop just drive to your nearest Police Station.
Good advice for anyone driving by themselves.In any country.
A bit of useful advice - verified by the Dorset Police.
The number does work from a mobile. This actually happened to someone's
daughter.
Lauren was 19 yrs old and in college. This story takes place over the
Christmas/New Year's holiday break. It was the Saturday before New Year and
it was about 1.00pm in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a
friend, when an UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put its lights
on.
Lauren's parents have 4 children (of various ages) and have always told them
never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the road, but rather
wait until they get to a service station, etc So Lauren remembered her
parents' advice, and telephoned 112 from her mobile phone. This connected
her to the police dispatcher she told the dispatcher that there was an
unmarked police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her and
that she would not pull over right away but wait until she was in a service
station or busy area.
The dispatcher checked to see if there was a police car where she was and
there wasn't and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had
back-up already on the way. Ten minutes later 4 police cars surrounded her
and the unmarked car behind her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground...... ..the
man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes. I never knew that
bit of advice, but especially for a woman alone in a car, you do not have to
pull over for an UNMARKED car.
Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a 'safe'
place. You obviously need to make some signals that you acknowledge them
I.e., put on your hazard lights) or call 112 like Lauren did.
Too bad the mobile phone companies don't give you this little bit of
wonderful information. So now it's your turn to let your friends know about
112 (112 is an emergency number on your mobile that takes you straight to
the police because 999 does not work if you have no signal). This is good
information that I did not know!
Please pass on to all your friends, especially any females.
That has been doing the rounds here.
In the one I recieved it says don't stop just drive to your nearest Police Station.
Good advice for anyone driving by themselves.In any country.
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kinks;726857 wrote: Well i'm sorry for causing trouble, i did get this from a good friend of mine and thought i was doing the right thing by passing it on
you haven't caused any trouble, kinks... perhaps spot got out of bed the wrong side....?? :-3:wah:
you haven't caused any trouble, kinks... perhaps spot got out of bed the wrong side....?? :-3:wah:
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bbc news so its true uk
Last Updated: Monday, 16 May, 2005, 19:38 GMT 20:38 UK
Fake police in gunpoint car theft
The bogus officers were in an unmarked car with blue lights
Two men posing as police officers robbed a driver of his car at gunpoint in Kent in the early hours.
Kent Police said an investigation had begun after the victim claimed to have been pulled over by an unmarked car with blue flashing lights on Monday.
Officers said two men wearing "police style" shirts pointed what looked like a gun at the driver of the R-reg Lexus LS 400 on the A299 in Herne Bay.
The driver said they told him to lie down in a field before taking the car.
He said he later flagged down a passing motorist who took him to Herne Bay Police Station where he reported the incident.
"Police are conducting a full investigation into the man's allegations," a spokesman for the force said.
"Posing as a police officer and stealing a car is a very serious offence."
Last Updated: Monday, 16 May, 2005, 19:38 GMT 20:38 UK
Fake police in gunpoint car theft
The bogus officers were in an unmarked car with blue lights
Two men posing as police officers robbed a driver of his car at gunpoint in Kent in the early hours.
Kent Police said an investigation had begun after the victim claimed to have been pulled over by an unmarked car with blue flashing lights on Monday.
Officers said two men wearing "police style" shirts pointed what looked like a gun at the driver of the R-reg Lexus LS 400 on the A299 in Herne Bay.
The driver said they told him to lie down in a field before taking the car.
He said he later flagged down a passing motorist who took him to Herne Bay Police Station where he reported the incident.
"Police are conducting a full investigation into the man's allegations," a spokesman for the force said.
"Posing as a police officer and stealing a car is a very serious offence."
"To be foolish and to recognize that one is foolish, is better than to be foolish and imagine that one is wise."
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spot;726848 wrote: Surely the sensible thing to do is to produce a genuine news story of a verifiable incident then? You can't imagine that a real-life copy of this event wouldn't have the national news channels screaming with excitement. Where did you hear about the Amarillo report, let's go get a copy of that one and bring it into play.
Here's some stories on impersonated cops..
http://www.amarillo.com/stories/071407/ ... 8996.shtml (a local story)
http://www.amarillo.com/stories/061303/ ... sout.shtml (not a local story, but was in local paper)
Here's some stories on impersonated cops..
http://www.amarillo.com/stories/071407/ ... 8996.shtml (a local story)
http://www.amarillo.com/stories/061303/ ... sout.shtml (not a local story, but was in local paper)
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summerishere;726856 wrote: well... we all at some point or other get one of those e mails about viruses... so we learn to ignore them.... but a story such as this, shouldn't be ignored.. even if it's fiction, I'm sure something similar HAS happened to someone in the past... I think warnings are good... they keep us alert.
summerishere;726859 wrote: you haven't caused any trouble, kinks... perhaps spot got out of bed the wrong side....?? :-3:wah:
I'm quite cheerful and not unhappy at all. The idea that fiction masquerading as fact is a healthy warning to people makes my hairs bristle. Let's go and get genuine instances, try to find out how often it happens, generate some reality. How often do unmarked cars try to pull people over which aren't real cops? What proportion of people ring the emergency number with their cellphone and check? What proportion of people stop and get harmed? They're exciting questions.
summerishere;726859 wrote: you haven't caused any trouble, kinks... perhaps spot got out of bed the wrong side....?? :-3:wah:
I'm quite cheerful and not unhappy at all. The idea that fiction masquerading as fact is a healthy warning to people makes my hairs bristle. Let's go and get genuine instances, try to find out how often it happens, generate some reality. How often do unmarked cars try to pull people over which aren't real cops? What proportion of people ring the emergency number with their cellphone and check? What proportion of people stop and get harmed? They're exciting questions.
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Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;726866 wrote: I'm quite cheerful and not unhappy at all. The idea that fiction masquerading as fact is a healthy warning to people makes my hairs bristle. Let's go and get genuine instances, try to find out how often it happens, generate some reality. How often do unmarked cars try to pull people over which aren't real cops? What proportion of people ring the emergency number with their cellphone and check? What proportion of people stop and get harmed? They're exciting questions.
Well if you find them exciting.... you go find them !!
I left school years ago! :wah:
Well if you find them exciting.... you go find them !!
I left school years ago! :wah:
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Some real stories of it happening!
http://www.news10.net/display_story.aspx?storyid=35358
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... /711080334
http://wkrg.com/news/article/fake_cop_a ... oman/5653/
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/2 ... _Violation
http://www.cbs8.com/features/crimefight ... ?id=107733
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/ ... 5980.shtml
Is this enough to prove that there was some truth to the OP, or do I need to post more?
http://www.news10.net/display_story.aspx?storyid=35358
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... /711080334
http://wkrg.com/news/article/fake_cop_a ... oman/5653/
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/2 ... _Violation
http://www.cbs8.com/features/crimefight ... ?id=107733
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/ ... 5980.shtml
Is this enough to prove that there was some truth to the OP, or do I need to post more?
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Sheryl;726865 wrote: Here's some stories on impersonated cops..
http://www.amarillo.com/stories/071407/ ... 8996.shtml (a local story)
http://www.amarillo.com/stories/061303/ ... sout.shtml (not a local story, but was in local paper)
Yay! Good stories!
Zachary Paul Harris is a genuine honest-to-goodness lunatic vigilante cop-wannabe who might not have been taught in school that to be a policeman you have to be appointed by those in authority. He sounds very confused.
The Friday, June 13, 2003 story is interesting, I'll see if I can find a sequel explaining what his intentions were.
http://www.amarillo.com/stories/071407/ ... 8996.shtml (a local story)
http://www.amarillo.com/stories/061303/ ... sout.shtml (not a local story, but was in local paper)
Yay! Good stories!
Zachary Paul Harris is a genuine honest-to-goodness lunatic vigilante cop-wannabe who might not have been taught in school that to be a policeman you have to be appointed by those in authority. He sounds very confused.
The Friday, June 13, 2003 story is interesting, I'll see if I can find a sequel explaining what his intentions were.
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kinks;726857 wrote: Well i'm sorry for causing trouble, i did get this from a good friend of mine and thought i was doing the right thing by passing it on
I can't see where you have caused any trouble.
You were trying to avoid someone getting into trouble.
Good for you.
I can't see where you have caused any trouble.
You were trying to avoid someone getting into trouble.
Good for you.
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I'm sure you will..oh great poomba of internet searches :rolleyes:
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Sheryl;726868 wrote: Is this enough to prove that there was some truth to the OP, or do I need to post more?
These stories are truth, Sheryl. The original post was an Internet hoax email which has been around for over five years with blatant untruths in it. There's a huge difference.
I'll read the other links.
These stories are truth, Sheryl. The original post was an Internet hoax email which has been around for over five years with blatant untruths in it. There's a huge difference.
I'll read the other links.
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Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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I never knew that we could call 112, i'll remember that Kinks, Cheers mate :-4
I am nobody..nobody is perfect...therefore I must be Perfect!
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:wah: Sorry my world is not as black/white as yours. Even though the OP was not true, the message of the story has some truth! Can you understand that?
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Thanks for the links Sheryl:)
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One of the things I noticed was that the first linked story involved a man being robbed not a woman being raped. Not to say that both couldn't or haven't happened.
I don't mind warnings being put out that give sound advice, what I want to know is... what does a person really do if they are nervous about the unmarked car. A driver can get in serious trouble for not pulling over when police signal. I would want to know that the OPP number given out was legitimate and not going to land me in a heap of trouble. I'd also like to think that people care about protecting our men as much as we care about protecting our women.
I've lately started to get quite worked up about how disposable we make men feel.
I don't mind warnings being put out that give sound advice, what I want to know is... what does a person really do if they are nervous about the unmarked car. A driver can get in serious trouble for not pulling over when police signal. I would want to know that the OPP number given out was legitimate and not going to land me in a heap of trouble. I'd also like to think that people care about protecting our men as much as we care about protecting our women.
I've lately started to get quite worked up about how disposable we make men feel.
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My goodness me. Good links Sheryl. I'll read some more but just for the moment I'll drop a quote in from one of the pages as a hint of why there's an underlying problem, and mention that in the UK you definitely serve time for impersonating a police officer. The idea that impersonation doesn't even get you booked much less investigated is terrifying.In Fort Collins, Col., college student Lacey Miller disappeared in 2003. A detective says, "Lacey was stopped by an individual posing as a police officer."
Miller's mother, Wendy Cohen, says Miller knew how to protect herself from criminals: "She had mace, and a cell phone. …She had everything she was supposed to have. She even pulled around the corner in front of our house." Even in their front yard, Cohen says, there's only one reason Miller would have let her guard down: "Someone had to have tricked her to get out of the car."
Tricked, Gonzales, says, with a fake badge and flashing lights belonging to Jason Clausen, who later pleaded guilty to kidnapping, raping and murdering Miller. Cohen was stunned to learn that, just weeks before her daughter's death, local deputies, responding to a report of a suspicious person in motel parking lot, found Clausen, and a lot more. "He had a concealed weapons permit," Sheriff Jim Alderden of Larimer County, Col. tells Gonzales. "He was wearing a firearm. He had a, uh, set of handcuffs with him, a police-style flashlight. … And he did have red and blue lights on the visor of the car that could be used to pull somebody over."
Alderden says Clausen was also wearing a badge, but there was nothing deputies could do but let him go. Miller couldn't believe impersonating a police officer wasn't a felony in Colorado: 'I was just dumbfounded. I said, 'I'm mortified that that's not a felony.' " Possession of police-like flashers wasn't even a traffic misdemeanor," Alderden recalls. "It was a $15 ticket!"So, the sheriff and grieving mother teamed up to help pass Colorado's "Lacey's Law," which makes posing as an officer a felony, and possession of police lights a misdemeanor. "I think," Cohen says, "she would be alive. She'd be in the garage, she would have come home, she wouldn't have stopped her car, and that's why I spent all that time and energy on trying to change that, so it wouldn't happen to someone else."
But, notes Gonzales, most states don't have a Lacy's Law, and no federal agency tracks these types of crimes.
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Miller's mother, Wendy Cohen, says Miller knew how to protect herself from criminals: "She had mace, and a cell phone. …She had everything she was supposed to have. She even pulled around the corner in front of our house." Even in their front yard, Cohen says, there's only one reason Miller would have let her guard down: "Someone had to have tricked her to get out of the car."
Tricked, Gonzales, says, with a fake badge and flashing lights belonging to Jason Clausen, who later pleaded guilty to kidnapping, raping and murdering Miller. Cohen was stunned to learn that, just weeks before her daughter's death, local deputies, responding to a report of a suspicious person in motel parking lot, found Clausen, and a lot more. "He had a concealed weapons permit," Sheriff Jim Alderden of Larimer County, Col. tells Gonzales. "He was wearing a firearm. He had a, uh, set of handcuffs with him, a police-style flashlight. … And he did have red and blue lights on the visor of the car that could be used to pull somebody over."
Alderden says Clausen was also wearing a badge, but there was nothing deputies could do but let him go. Miller couldn't believe impersonating a police officer wasn't a felony in Colorado: 'I was just dumbfounded. I said, 'I'm mortified that that's not a felony.' " Possession of police-like flashers wasn't even a traffic misdemeanor," Alderden recalls. "It was a $15 ticket!"So, the sheriff and grieving mother teamed up to help pass Colorado's "Lacey's Law," which makes posing as an officer a felony, and possession of police lights a misdemeanor. "I think," Cohen says, "she would be alive. She'd be in the garage, she would have come home, she wouldn't have stopped her car, and that's why I spent all that time and energy on trying to change that, so it wouldn't happen to someone else."
But, notes Gonzales, most states don't have a Lacy's Law, and no federal agency tracks these types of crimes.
(Sheryl's URL) - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/ ... 5980.shtml
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koan;726882 wrote: One of the things I noticed was that the first linked story involved a man being robbed not a woman being raped. Not to say that both couldn't or haven't happened.
I don't mind warnings being put out that give sound advice, what I want to know is... what does a person really do if they are nervous about the unmarked car. A driver can get in serious trouble for not pulling over when police signal. I would want to know that the OPP number given out was legitimate and not going to land me in a heap of trouble. I'd also like to think that people care about protecting our men as much as we care about protecting our women.
I've lately started to get quite worked up about how disposable we make men feel.
I've always been told to pull into a busy parking lot, such as a gas station when unsure.
I don't mind warnings being put out that give sound advice, what I want to know is... what does a person really do if they are nervous about the unmarked car. A driver can get in serious trouble for not pulling over when police signal. I would want to know that the OPP number given out was legitimate and not going to land me in a heap of trouble. I'd also like to think that people care about protecting our men as much as we care about protecting our women.
I've lately started to get quite worked up about how disposable we make men feel.
I've always been told to pull into a busy parking lot, such as a gas station when unsure.
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Sheryl;726888 wrote: I've always been told to pull into a busy parking lot, such as a gas station when unsure.
I'm certain that's extremely good advice. I do think people are scared of tasers though. If I were stopped and told to keep my hands on the wheel or to get out of the car I'd not have the nerve to follow the advice in the clipping - "Ask the officer for identification - not just a badge flash [...] If your requests are met with hostility and refusal, you are probably not dealing with the real thing." Are they kidding? Who has the nerve to try that? If my requests were met with hostility and refusal I'd be wondering whether I was going to end up in hospital but I'd not be doubting whether they were really cops.
I'm certain that's extremely good advice. I do think people are scared of tasers though. If I were stopped and told to keep my hands on the wheel or to get out of the car I'd not have the nerve to follow the advice in the clipping - "Ask the officer for identification - not just a badge flash [...] If your requests are met with hostility and refusal, you are probably not dealing with the real thing." Are they kidding? Who has the nerve to try that? If my requests were met with hostility and refusal I'd be wondering whether I was going to end up in hospital but I'd not be doubting whether they were really cops.
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I've only been pulled over by one cop that seemed paranoid about approaching the vehicle. He stood at the back passenger window, where I had to turn in my seat to give him my information. Which is probably a good thing cause if he'd come up to my window, he would of seen that my inspection sticker was expired. :wah:
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I dont, know where you all live, but I was hanging out with this cop, and he told me to take a roll of quarters and use clear tape on them and they act as brass knuckles, use clear tape because it is against the law in Michigan to have taped coin, never heard that but oh, well, also he bought me this key chain that has a four inch pop out and lock blade, anything above four inches in illegal, also he said a box cutter, I can say I use it on truck day to open the totes of drugs, at the pharmacy, that girl was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lucky!!!!!!