Martha Stewart

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 6:33 am

Has anyone heard how Martha is coping behind bars?

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:36 pm

I guess no-one cares, watch her develop something award winning, leave it to Martha Stewart. Reports are she is well, so far.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:39 am

Paula wrote: I guess no-one cares.

I guess people care about her doing time as much as they care about any

other criminal doing time.

cars · Post by **cars** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:59 am

Martha, Martha, Martha, the woman is an Icon, I never did really much care for her! But in her defense, I believe she got a raw deal because of "who" she was/is! She is a strong opiniated very successfull woman, some don't like that!

She did not do anything that hundreds, if not thousahds of others did/do. But She got caught, and "they" made an example out of her. There are far worse criminals out there that just get their hand slapped and released. (No Jail time)Sometimes "celebrity status" can work against them and the media have a feast!

I hope she does well in "jaildum", and shows the world what she's made of!

Cars

A Karenina · Post by **A Karenina** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:20 am

cars wrote: She did not do anything that hundreds, if not thousahds of others did/do. But She got caught, and "they" made an example out of her.
With all due respect, there are hundreds, if not thousands of others who sell hard core drugs on our streets...does this make it less illegal? Less dangerous?

Her crime doesn't seem awful on the surface because it's non-violent. But insider trading diminishes equal opportunity (financially). Perjury endangers our judicial system. If we don't believe in a free market with viable competition or in our legal system, then what she did was fine.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:42 am

cars wrote: But in her defense, I believe she got a raw deal because of "who" she was/is! She is a strong opiniated very successfull woman, some don't like that!

She did not do anything that hundreds, if not thousahds of others did/do. But She got caught, and "they" made an example out of her. There are far worse criminals out there that just get their hand slapped and released. (No Jail time)

Cars

I think that people who are in the public eye should be careful of their dealings,

as they are *setting* an example. She's been caught, and has been seen to

weep crocodile tears. Some of her reported statements are rather sickening,

like this one:

MStewart wrote: I could do it ... I'm a really good camper. I can sleep on the ground. ... There are many, many good people who have gone to prison ... look at Nelson Mandela.

Eee-yuck! There are others. See:

http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/16/news/ne ... entencing/

It is also worth mentioning that her sentence was the minimum possible - hardly

making an example of her, which I would think quite in order given her public

perception.

If it's of any interest to you, a Google for "insider dealing conviction sentence"

gives interesting details of other sentencing. Hers does not seem harsh.

CVX · Post by **CVX** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:34 am

Martha Stewart Says She's Adjusting To Prison

By Krysten Crawford

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) -- With one week down and many more to go, Martha Stewart wrote an open letter to fans from prison that was posted Friday on her personal Web site.

In the five-paragraph missive, Stewart described life at the federal prison for women as "pretty much what I anticipated." She said she was doing fine and that everyone she has met, from prison officials to fellow inmates, was "nice."

"I have adjusted and am very busy," wrote Stewart in a posting on www.marthatalks.com. "The camp is like an old-fashioned college campus -- without the freedom, of course."

But Stewart also beseeched supporters, who she said have sent hundreds of letters in the past week, to stop including gifts and money. Instead, she asked gift-givers to make donations to their favorite charities or organizations.

"Please know that while these gestures of friendship and support are deeply appreciated, any such items must be returned to the sender by prison officials," she wrote.

In March 2004, when last estimated by Forbes, Stewart's net worth was around $335 million.

Prison officials open all incoming mail.

Federal prison rules generally allow outsiders to send unlimited letters, money orders, magazines and other periodicals, according to David Novak, who spent time in jail for fraud before becoming a prison consultant. Inmates are barred from getting flowers, food, personal items, "sexually explicit photographs," or Polaroid pictures.

In a book about life behind bars, Novak said the hardest time for inmates is during the Thanksgiving-to-New-Year's-Day holiday period, when no exceptions are made to the gift ban. Prisoners can receive visitors on those days and they can send flowers, however.

Stewart, like all federal prisoners, is allowed to spend a maximum of $290 a month at the prison commissary. It's basically a mini-mart that sells snacks, stamps, and some toiletries.

All inmate money is kept in separate "commissary accounts," according to Novak. Stewart will be allowed to take any leftover funds with her when she is released in March.

Stewart, 63, began serving Oct. 8 a five-month prison sentence at a minimum security camp for women located in Alderson, West Virginia. Stewart, along with her former stock broker, was convicted earlier this year of lying to government investigators during an insider trading probe into some of her personal stock sales.

Although Stewart was allowed to stay out of jail while appealing her conviction, she chose to serve her time now rather than wait the year or two it would take for an appeals court to rule on her case.

Stewart is still pursuing an appeal.

Friday's message was not the only word on Stewart in the past week. Agents for Stewart were reportedly shopping a book deal on her time behind bars, which industry watchers said could fetch $5 million.

Stewart promised followers that more Web site postings would follow, though she did not specify what their frequency would be.

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:42 pm

cars wrote: Martha, Martha, Martha, the woman is an Icon, I never did really much care for her! But in her defense, I believe she got a raw deal because of "who" she was/is! She is a strong opiniated very successfull woman, some don't like that!

She did not do anything that hundreds, if not thousahds of others did/do. But She got caught, and "they" made an example out of her. There are far worse criminals out there that just get their hand slapped and released. (No Jail time)Sometimes "celebrity status" can work against them and the media have a feast!

I hope she does well in "jaildum", and shows the world what she's made of!

Cars

What ever happened to you do the crime, you do the time?

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:55 am

CVX wrote: Martha Stewart Says She's Adjusting To Prison

Hopefully she'll stay there and STFU.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:05 am

Redwhiteblue wrote: Who is she?

She's not well known over here, although I have heard her name mentioned before.

She seems to be some old bat who got rich through a TV "lifestyle" show and

offshoots from that. Oh, and insider dealing. She's been done for the latter,

and now seems to be putting up a sickening holier-that-thou attitude/air of

martyrdom. I should ignore it.

A Karenina · Post by **A Karenina** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:24 am

They actually got her for lying. Five months for perjury is reasonable. Five months for insider trading is not. In my view anyway...

Martha is annoying. LOL. Her pearls of wisdom aka homemaking instructions go like this -

"When baking an apple pie, go to your orchard and pick fresh crisp apples..."

Right! Because everybody has an orchard.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:21 am

A Karenina wrote: They actually got her for lying. Five months for perjury is reasonable. Five months for insider trading is not. In my view anyway...

Ah! I re-googled, and I see that you are right. IMO the sentence for perjury

should reflect the nature of the perjury, and should be a deterrent, as this

offence strikes at the heart of any justice system.

Five months for insider dealing not reasonable? Hmm. Maybe it should be more.

A Karenina · Post by **A Karenina** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 9:50 am

Thanks for being gracious about my rude correction. That was nice of you.

Martha's punishment for insider trading should be "off with her hair" - because I've never liked it anyway. (Are my claws showing?!)

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:16 pm

A Karenina wrote: Martha's punishment for insider trading should be "off with her hair" - because I've never liked it anyway. (Are my claws showing?!)

A saucer of milk for madame?

A Karenina · Post by **A Karenina** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:28 pm

Why yes, thank you! And some fresh goose liver pate, if you have it.

My only redeeming quality is that I can admit how bratty I am! LOL

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:29 pm

Martha is to be released from her lovely jail cell sometime next week. 3/6/05. She will be forever known for the creation of Jailhouse Chili, (cooking for a crowd), cozy cots, decorating sheets, prison parties, spruce up your cell for those "special" holiday occasions. LC will like this one, good things (polishing handcuffs and leg irons). Laundry room, removing pesty blood stains from prison garb. Martha Living behind bars, soon to be a reality show.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:16 pm

have to keep those cuffs shiny Paula! LOL....actually, aside from her legal problems, i loved Martha's holiday specials and magazines, Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas...i found them very stylish, especially her artistic decorating ideas, and wonderful creative recipes too. i don't buy her products (or shop at K-mart) , but give her credit for talent. i too would be a domestic goddess if i had a trillion bucks, but all it really takes is a bit of taste and imagination.

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:32 pm

Poor Martha she survived her sentence & you are correct, her talent is tops. i see her making an exceptional come back with new ideas, you wait and see. she will develop from her stay a new line of something. she was a celebrity that received time for a little extra cash..i do not wish her bad luck in the least.

Post by **kensloft** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:00 pm

Paula wrote: Poor Martha she survived her sentence & you are correct, her talent is tops. i see her making an exceptional come back with new ideas, you wait and see. she will develop from her stay a new line of something. she was a celebrity that received time for a little extra cash..i do not wish her bad luck in the least.
She'll get into striped patterns to make the oversized look thinner. Striped curtains to get people to remember the horrors of jail and hand cuff shining kits and signs so that the police will know where to get their cuffs buffed.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:50 pm

Martha will come out of this bigger than ever. She will bounce back from this like she has everything. I don't care for her that much. But I will say she is one tough lady.

I know what you mean about her hair.. Dang I want to cut her bangs so she can see where the heck she is going.

I have bought some of her sheet on sale at K-mart. They are great quality, and have lasted forever.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:06 pm

I used to like watching her shows but never really did anything except

one tip I got from her: To avoid your eyes watering when slicing onions,

burn a candle near the cutting board.

But I would never go eat at her place, one time she was setting up for

a Thanksgiving dinner, and there was one of her damn FELINES that

she allowed to get up on the table and LIE DOWN. One of the most

disgusting things to me...

Do wish I had the moola to invest in her company, though, that

sucker is gonna take off I bet...

:yh_eyebro

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:54 pm

Saw film footage of Martha they were running on Larry King, and I

hafta say, I kind of felt for her, getting home and being with her dog

and going out to pet her horses, I've never been away from mine that

long but I do think I know how she feels.

There's gotta be something to a person who the first thing she does

is go be with her animals...

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:15 am

In the UK they are talking about legislation to stop criminals profiting from their time in jail by selling their life story etc. Never heard of her either but personally someone guilty of insider trading or company fraud should lose all their assets, jail is not a deterrent being poor might be.

cars · Post by **cars** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:47 am

gmc wrote: In the UK they are talking about legislation to stop criminals profiting from their time in jail by selling their life story etc. Never heard of her either but personally someone guilty of insider trading or company fraud should lose all their assets, jail is not a deterrent being poor might be.

There's just one thing her money can't buy.

It can't buy POVERTY! :guitarist

Beth · Post by **Beth** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:50 am

Dang, she's out and thin! I bet that six months was worth the weight loss to her.

Valerie, I saw nuttin wrong about that kittykat jumping onto the table. Most likely it was a very clean housecat. My kids and husband are filthier than my cat, now if they jumped onto the table, I would be ill. :p

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:24 am

gmc wrote: In the UK they are talking about legislation to stop criminals profiting from their time in jail by selling their life story etc. Never heard of her either but personally someone guilty of insider trading or company fraud should lose all their assets, jail is not a deterrent being poor might be.But, she wasn't found guilty of insider trading or company fraud. She was

found guilty of lying to the government. Not even perjury, lying under

oath, just lying in the course of the government investigation. I think

losing ALL your assets would be a bit harsh.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:29 am

Beth wrote: Dang, she's out and thin! I bet that six months was worth the weight loss to her.

Valerie, I saw nuttin wrong about that kittykat jumping onto the table. Most likely it was a very clean housecat. My kids and husband are filthier than my cat, now if they jumped onto the table, I would be ill. :pEEESH. Okay, I can accept that, I guess, but I just have the thought in

my head about how "dirty" cats are... bacteriologically speaking they are

very bad. To say nothing of the hair involved. I doubt your kids or husband

paw around in their litter boxes, either!! And LAYING flat out on a beautiful

freshly ironed linen tablecloth... nope, can't do 'er!!

:)

Post by **kensloft** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:52 pm

valerie wrote: EEESH. Okay, I can accept that, I guess, but I just have the thought in

my head about how "dirty" cats are... bacteriologically speaking they are

very bad. To say nothing of the hair involved. I doubt your kids or husband

paw around in their litter boxes, either!! And LAYING flat out on a beautiful

freshly ironed linen tablecloth... nope, can't do 'er!!

:)
If a cat didn't stretch out on some fresh surface that it wasn't suppsed to be on then it wouldn't be a cat. They are dirty but theyaren't that dirty. The medical books aren't filled with families being wiped out with some viral infection that came out of a kitty litter box.

As a cat owner for years all I can say is get used to it because in the end they are great pals that would do nothing to harm their big, stupid can openers.

A Karenina · Post by **A Karenina** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:11 am

kensloft wrote: If a cat didn't stretch out on some fresh surface that it wasn't suppsed to be on then it wouldn't be a cat. They are dirty but theyaren't that dirty. The medical books aren't filled with families being wiped out with some viral infection that came out of a kitty litter box.

As a cat owner for years all I can say is get used to it because in the end they are great pals that would do nothing to harm their big, stupid can openers.
Cats do have germs they can pass to humans, which is why pregnant women are not supposed to be anywhere near litter boxes.

Mine is not allowed on the table or the counters. She's tried jumping onto the kitchen counter twice in the 4 years that she's lived with me. I dramatically brandish my spray bottle, and she runs off. Never have to spray her, I just have to act like I will. She's a good girl.

I'm all for pampering our pets, but I'm not for letting them rule the roost. I pay the bills, do the cleaning, etc, so I get to rule. (hair toss)

thomas40 · Post by **thomas40** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:12 am

she is out now and prusueing stuf with her company

Post by **kensloft** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:22 am

A Karenina wrote: Cats do have germs they can pass to humans, which is why pregnant women are not supposed to be anywhere near litter boxes.

Mine is not allowed on the table or the counters. She's tried jumping onto the kitchen counter twice in the 4 years that she's lived with me. I dramatically brandish my spray bottle, and she runs off. Never have to spray her, I just have to act like I will. She's a good girl.

I'm all for pampering our pets, but I'm not for letting them rule the roost. I pay the bills, do the cleaning, etc, so I get to rule. (hair toss)
Try doing that when you aren't there!

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:23 am

Martha has an ankle monitor to track every move she makes. I wonder if she misses her jail friends? How does she feel about life now? She discusses her most intimate feelings with her horse. OMG that is teribble.... :yh_chickn

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:18 pm

kensloft wrote: Try doing that when you aren't there!Whole families aren't wiped out but there is something called toxoplasmosis

that can be very serious, sometimes causing neurological damage and/or

blindness in a human fetus. That's why pregnant women or immuno-

suppressed people shouldn't clean a litter box.

There are things you can do when you aren't in the room to keep the cat

off of things. I can't get in the same room with my husband's cat and a

squirt water bottle. Much frustration, which she was little I finally called

the humane society where we got her and asked for help. They were the

ones who told me about upside down mouse traps. Yes, it is possible to

do and scares the kitty away without you having to be there. Gracie I

would say has been excellent about not jumping on the table or counters.

She is regressing some in her advanced (15) age, but there are easy ways

to avoid that, too, double sided sticky tape or simply in Gracie's case,

putting a towel over the item she's not supposed to be on. If the

dreaded "blond monster" (moi!) puts a towel on the dresser overnight,

Gracie freaks and ain't goin' anywhere near it!

A Karenina · Post by **A Karenina** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:24 am

Valerie, those are great ideas, thank you

To kensloft: As for my cat, she's got very long fluffy white hair. I know exactly where she's been all day because I clean up the fur trail when I get home. LOL. She's simply not a climber.

Post by **kensloft** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:16 pm

A Karenina wrote: Valerie, those are great ideas, thank you

To kensloft: As for my cat, she's got very long fluffy white hair. I know exactly where she's been all day because I clean up the fur trail when I get home. LOL. She's simply not a climber.
If I ever get a cat I will come to you and take all your tips on how to not let them climb. White fluffy tail hairs floating around in the air. Thanks.(head bowed, feet shuffling and

) :sneaky:

Post by **kensloft** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:19 pm

Godiva Girl wrote: We had a couple of cats when I was a kid and I could not stand that jumping on top of the dinner table and kitchen counters crap. What people do with their animals in their home is their business. I actually had a cat that would get on my bed while I was sleeping and pee on my leg. I had to always keep my bedroom door shut even during the day or the cat would go on my bed. No matter how much I loved the cat and gave her attention she would do this. The cat was so loving towards me too, but it never failed, if she got on my bed or on top of my leg while I was asleep the cat would do it every time. And she didn't have a urinary infection or anything like that. The cat was just plain crazy.
Or it was marking out its territory. :driving:

A Karenina · Post by **A Karenina** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:10 pm

kensloft wrote: If I ever get a cat I will come to you and take all your tips on how to not let them climb. White fluffy tail hairs floating around in the air. Thanks.(head bowed, feet shuffling and

) :sneaky:
I hope you mean Valerie's tips. My cat was adopted from the Humane Society, full grown. Whoever raised her knew exactly what they were doing because she is a loving and well-behaved animal.

I'm not sure how much sarcasm is in your feet shuffling, or the thinking/sneaky emoticon. But I don't think that my opinion of cat behavior, and specifically my cat's behavior would warrant any sarcasm at all. Perhaps I read you wrong.

Post by **kensloft** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:38 pm

A Karenina wrote: I hope you mean Valerie's tips. My cat was adopted from the Humane Society, full grown. Whoever raised her knew exactly what they were doing because she is a loving and well-behaved animal.

I'm not sure how much sarcasm is in your feet shuffling, or the thinking/sneaky emoticon. But I don't think that my opinion of cat behavior, and specifically my cat's behavior would warrant any sarcasm at all. Perhaps I read you wrong.
You are right they are valerie's tips. Pushed the wrong reply button. Thank you. There wasn't any sarcasm intended because cats and cat owners know how hard it is to train cats to stay out of and off the food serving surfaces. It can be done and is done but for the most part they aren't as well trained in these manners or only Canadian cats act like that.

I feel like saying that I am getting the Martha Stewart ethic of... ? Your cats are great. Glad you brought it to my attention. Thank you. You did like the first emoticon didn't you?

A Karenina · Post by **A Karenina** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:45 pm

kensloft wrote: but for the most part they aren't as well trained in these manners or only Canadian cats act like that.
I bet that's it...Canadian cats...:p

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:22 pm

i never knew Martha & kitties, i thought she was a horse lover? did i miss something, ya i did!

cars · Post by **cars** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:30 am

Martha's back just as I expected her to be, or did she ever really leave?

Cars :driving: