Hillary Clinton is holding a roundtable discussion with Connecticut women to talk about childcare and healthcare. Can you imagine the uproar if say Mitt Romney held a conference on healthcare with men?
I remember when men used to be able to form civic organizations that benefited the community. Those organizations now have to have women in them or they are deemed sexist. Today men have to be careful too many don’t show up at the restroom at the same time.
I’m so sick of the double standards I could spit. The biggest healthcare need this country has is testosterone therapy.
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rjwould;771015 wrote: Clint, seriously, No offense intended, but don't you think you may be exaggerating a bit?
Maybe a bit but the double standard is real. Men have become
feminized whimps (exaggeration intended):D.
Maybe a bit but the double standard is real. Men have become
feminized whimps (exaggeration intended):D.
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rjwould;771049 wrote: Thats a different topic, and it's a good one....
They are very closely related. Women didn't take our masculinity away, we gave it away.
Sorry, I have to go. My boss...she gets upset if I'm late for meetings.:wah:
They are very closely related. Women didn't take our masculinity away, we gave it away.
Sorry, I have to go. My boss...she gets upset if I'm late for meetings.:wah:
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Clint;771009 wrote: Hillary Clinton is holding a roundtable discussion with Connecticut women to talk about childcare and healthcare. Can you imagine the uproar if say Mitt Romney held a conference on healthcare with men? Would that be okay with you? Don't you think that sometimes there may be valuable things harvested from a group of 'like' individuals?
I remember when men used to be able to form civic organizations that benefited the community. Those organizations now have to have women in them or they are deemed sexist. Today men have to be careful too many don’t show up at the restroom at the same time. I'm pretty sure wolverines thread clear up these concerns last week
I’m so sick of the double standards I could spit. The biggest healthcare need this country has is testosterone therapy.
It's that whole spitting thing that ruined it for you guys, ya know? Seriously though, the problem with the old guys groups, was that what went on mostly benefited the guys and excluded the women and the folks of color.
I remember when men used to be able to form civic organizations that benefited the community. Those organizations now have to have women in them or they are deemed sexist. Today men have to be careful too many don’t show up at the restroom at the same time. I'm pretty sure wolverines thread clear up these concerns last week
I’m so sick of the double standards I could spit. The biggest healthcare need this country has is testosterone therapy.
It's that whole spitting thing that ruined it for you guys, ya know? Seriously though, the problem with the old guys groups, was that what went on mostly benefited the guys and excluded the women and the folks of color.
Who are they to protest me? Who are they? Unless they've been me and been there and know what the hell they're yelling about!
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posted by clint
They are very closely related. Women didn't take our masculinity away, we gave it away.
Is that why you all run around in such big cars? your trying to compensate?
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I remember in the early nineties when I received a flier in the mail from our local representative regarding health care, it read; "would you support national health care if it meant bankrupting the country." What a slanted question, so I called his office and spoke to his person in charge, who was female. I had always hoped that the more females would become involved in politics that the tenor would change. But after speaking with this lady, I realize she was just another guy in a dress, and my hopes were dashed..
That's interesting. Just How popular is cross dressing in America? I know you have motor bike gangs that like to dress up as one of the village people but I didn't know you were in to wearing dresses as well. Mind you one of the most distracting, (indeed disturbing) sights you will see is a kilt wearing scotsman on a Harley Davidson belting up the A9. hairy biker has a whole new meaning.
They are very closely related. Women didn't take our masculinity away, we gave it away.
Is that why you all run around in such big cars? your trying to compensate?
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I remember in the early nineties when I received a flier in the mail from our local representative regarding health care, it read; "would you support national health care if it meant bankrupting the country." What a slanted question, so I called his office and spoke to his person in charge, who was female. I had always hoped that the more females would become involved in politics that the tenor would change. But after speaking with this lady, I realize she was just another guy in a dress, and my hopes were dashed..
That's interesting. Just How popular is cross dressing in America? I know you have motor bike gangs that like to dress up as one of the village people but I didn't know you were in to wearing dresses as well. Mind you one of the most distracting, (indeed disturbing) sights you will see is a kilt wearing scotsman on a Harley Davidson belting up the A9. hairy biker has a whole new meaning.
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grh;771118 wrote: It's that whole spitting thing that ruined it for you guys, ya know? Seriously though, the problem with the old guys groups, was that what went on mostly benefited the guys and excluded the women and the folks of color.
I was Charter President of one of those old guy groups when I was in my early 30's and what went on benefited the schools mostly and the community at large after that. The group is still going and still benefiting the schools and the community with women as members. The thing the group lacks now is the camaraderie...but the women feel better so that makes it all good.
I was Charter President of one of those old guy groups when I was in my early 30's and what went on benefited the schools mostly and the community at large after that. The group is still going and still benefiting the schools and the community with women as members. The thing the group lacks now is the camaraderie...but the women feel better so that makes it all good.
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So, since Hillary is meeting with women only to discuss issues that matter to everyone it will be okay if one of the male candidates has a men only meeting to discuss similar issues?
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Clint;771265 wrote: So, since Hillary is meeting with women only to discuss issues that matter to everyone it will be okay if one of the male candidates has a men only meeting to discuss similar issues?
Personally I'd think it would be awesome! All Hillary is doing is advertising to women that she is one of them, IMO. And it's false advertising at that. God knows men don't have healthcare issues on scale with what women do, right?
BTW, does anyone know if any of the candidates pays for health insurance, or is it one of those government perks?
Personally I'd think it would be awesome! All Hillary is doing is advertising to women that she is one of them, IMO. And it's false advertising at that. God knows men don't have healthcare issues on scale with what women do, right?
BTW, does anyone know if any of the candidates pays for health insurance, or is it one of those government perks?
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rjwould;771272 wrote: What I'm reading here, Clint, is men and women need to find more common ground.
Men and women have plenty in common. I've known that since I was 12 or 13 years old. That thing in common results in families and community property in common. Men and women enjoy socializing with the same sex. It's too bad some are threatened by that socializing. Gender melding is tearing us apart not uniting us.
Men and women have plenty in common. I've known that since I was 12 or 13 years old. That thing in common results in families and community property in common. Men and women enjoy socializing with the same sex. It's too bad some are threatened by that socializing. Gender melding is tearing us apart not uniting us.
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JAB;771280 wrote: If Hillary or any other woman were to be elected President and started enacting policies that were more favorable to women, do you think we'd see more charges of sex discrimination by the menfolk?
I really don't think so. I think men have been so conditioned to think we are the ones causing all the problems we will let discrimination go rather than address it. Men who aren't conditioned to take the blame will be embarassed to admit they couldn't negotiate the problem without help. I've been sexually descriminated against and I just moved out of that situation reasoning that if they didn't want me there it wasn't a place I wanted to be. I guess I should have taken the fight to them but I also didn't want to see them cry.
I really don't think so. I think men have been so conditioned to think we are the ones causing all the problems we will let discrimination go rather than address it. Men who aren't conditioned to take the blame will be embarassed to admit they couldn't negotiate the problem without help. I've been sexually descriminated against and I just moved out of that situation reasoning that if they didn't want me there it wasn't a place I wanted to be. I guess I should have taken the fight to them but I also didn't want to see them cry.
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JAB;771864 wrote: OK, rather then straight up sexual discrimination what about equal rights across the board?
I wish I could remember where I read the article but there seems to be a growing trend where men are asking for lengthier paternal leave much in the same vein as women have vs. the 3 or 4 days that employers typically grant. If it were truly available, do you think men would take advantage of it?
Men may take advantage of it but it wouldn't last long as a "right" if they did.
I wish I could remember where I read the article but there seems to be a growing trend where men are asking for lengthier paternal leave much in the same vein as women have vs. the 3 or 4 days that employers typically grant. If it were truly available, do you think men would take advantage of it?
Men may take advantage of it but it wouldn't last long as a "right" if they did.
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JAB;771864 wrote: OK, rather then straight up sexual discrimination what about equal rights across the board?
I wish I could remember where I read the article but there seems to be a growing trend where men are asking for lengthier paternal leave much in the same vein as women have vs. the 3 or 4 days that employers typically grant. If it were truly available, do you think men would take advantage of it?
The best suggestion I have heard is to allocate the maternity leave to the family. The parents can share it out as they will but the total allowance is fixed.
I wish I could remember where I read the article but there seems to be a growing trend where men are asking for lengthier paternal leave much in the same vein as women have vs. the 3 or 4 days that employers typically grant. If it were truly available, do you think men would take advantage of it?
The best suggestion I have heard is to allocate the maternity leave to the family. The parents can share it out as they will but the total allowance is fixed.
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How did we get here? The best gender for nurturing of young children is as obvious as mammary glands. Will we continue to warp the natural order of things until there is no hope of recovery?
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We don't have maternity leave, we have the family medical leave act that allows up to 3 months per year for the birth or care of a relative.
It applies equally to men and women and where I work there is not one guy in the last 5 years that has become a father and NOT taken some time off. They tend to come back once their accrued vacation and holidays are used up however, because very few people can can afford to shell out the full amount for health insurance.
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/fmla/
It applies equally to men and women and where I work there is not one guy in the last 5 years that has become a father and NOT taken some time off. They tend to come back once their accrued vacation and holidays are used up however, because very few people can can afford to shell out the full amount for health insurance.
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/fmla/
Who are they to protest me? Who are they? Unless they've been me and been there and know what the hell they're yelling about!
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grh;772507 wrote: We don't have maternity leave, we have the family medical leave act that allows up to 3 months per year for the birth or care of a relative.
It applies equally to men and women and where I work there is not one guy in the last 5 years that has become a father and NOT taken some time off. They tend to come back once their accrued vacation and holidays are used up however, because very few people can can afford to shell out the full amount for health insurance.
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/fmla/
Yes, the law the result of abandoning natural gender roles for higher household incomes. The synergy that once benefited the family unit now benefits the family income. Too many couples get together to combine incomes for a bigger house rather than combine love for a stronger family.
It applies equally to men and women and where I work there is not one guy in the last 5 years that has become a father and NOT taken some time off. They tend to come back once their accrued vacation and holidays are used up however, because very few people can can afford to shell out the full amount for health insurance.
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/fmla/
Yes, the law the result of abandoning natural gender roles for higher household incomes. The synergy that once benefited the family unit now benefits the family income. Too many couples get together to combine incomes for a bigger house rather than combine love for a stronger family.
Schooling results in matriculation. Education is a process that changes the learner.