ha ha i know know how to google like spot or gallabally

Post by **spot** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:33 am

Hey! Geeky pin-up!

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:39 am

Hmmmmmmm:sneaky:Interesting

:D

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:54 am

http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog//?p=39

that one may appeal to some Gardeners:sneaky:

Omni_Skittles · Post by **Omni_Skittles** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:07 pm

lol there is a wrong way to google?

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:12 pm

Nerd. :rolleyes:

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:30 pm

There's no use in googling unless you are going to use the proper word. :wah:

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:52 pm

did you know that professors in colleges say that Google is a bad source of information....well in so many words, they feel its not credible because of all of the many different answers/links that come up for keywords.....

Wiki is another no-no....I like both google and wiki...so imagine my facial expression!!:eek::yh_silent:yh_cry

Post by **spot** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:41 am

They have a point. If you go to either a wiki or a google hit page and it says "on 21st August 1944 Churchill hosted a Chequers meeting with De Gaulle's inner cabinet at which the partitioning of Alsace Lorraine in post-war Europe was finally settled" you can't very well quote it as an authority. I just made it up. I have no credential for stating it, it's not true but it looks good. I might have made it up to support a notion of my own concerning De Gaulle. My notion sounds more persuasive if that sentence is true so I made it up to sound more persuasive. It's still rubbish.

I might have put a footnote saying "see Churchill's Wartime Diaries, ed. John Coleville, 1968, Volume III pages 176-179, Harraps, London" which is equally impressive and equally bogus.

What the hit or the wiki have done though is to provide you with a tremendously useful pointer, and nine times out of ten if you go to the referenced work you'll find an authentic quote together with useful background and other surprising details that might be relevant to your work. You simply have to go to the source before using the material. Your college professor will doubtless say that you couldn't possibly write this essay without looking through the index of Churchill's Wartime Diaries anyway, so the internet route was a waste of your time.

The power of the internet is more in the availability on-line of full text copies of works like Churchill's Wartime Diaries. They're probably not available through Google but they're there on the university library Online Sources collection. I think the day's coming where everyone in the world who has an interest in using resources like that will have a perpetual student account at some college or other, doing perpetual additional courses for life for very small fees, and bogus information on a wiki or Google will become far easier to challenge.

The other reason your professors don't like everyone using the same article - once it would have been a Britannica entry, now it's a wiki page - is that all the essays come in with exactly the same quotes. It's so much more interesting for the professor to mark fifty essays with different quotes, different conclusions, different ways of analysing the question. Excitingly good essays are ones where the student has gone off and actually read the original material, digested it and come to his own conclusions. The benefit for the student is that in doing the essay he's gained practical experience in handling the subject directly instead of merely finding out what other people have thought about it.

Omni_Skittles · Post by **Omni_Skittles** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:43 am

WonderWendy3;781765 wrote: did you know that professors in colleges say that Google is a bad source of information....well in so many words, they feel its not credible because of all of the many different answers/links that come up for keywords.....

Wiki is another no-no....I like both google and wiki...so imagine my facial expression!!:eek::yh_silent:yh_cryoh yes wiki is the devil at my school! lol

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:07 am

jimbo;781811 wrote: great post spot :-6

i actually read all of it ,i actually read all of it which is most unlike me

besides who needs wiki and google when you have spot on your forum :wah::wah:

I think Jimbo is trying to hint to us that he is now wearing eyeglasses.

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:55 pm

we have

google

ask jeeves

wikipedia

maybe now the net just needs

Spot Search :wah::wah::wah:

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:59 pm

Very well said as usual Spot....thank you for that....

Spot Search...I like it!!:-6

Post by **spot** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:03 pm

I suspect that as a service it would lack a great deal - it takes far too long to read the answer and when you've finished you're still stuck with working out whether it meant yes or no. You may even be unsure by then what exactly the yes or no applies to and whether the original question meant what you thought it did.