Being Gay/Bi or Lesbian

pinkchick · Post by **pinkchick** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:24 pm

ML - As long as you're happy then that's all that matters.

I wish you all the best :-6

koan · Post by **koan** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:42 pm

I'm glad you've come to terms with it. I've thought about whether or not FG could benefit from a gay/lesbian forum for discussing problems or triumphs in that lifestyle but I'm not sure if we have a large enough population to make it worth adding a forum. If you'd like that we can look into it. I suspect we have other users that haven't been as open about it.

I've had a girlfriend before but I'm hitched with a male now and a one relationship kind of person.

I hope things go smoothly for you and you have more positive experiences than not. :-6

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:28 am

koan;795494 wrote: I'm glad you've come to terms with it. I've thought about whether or not FG could benefit from a gay/lesbian forum for discussing problems or triumphs in that lifestyle but I'm not sure if we have a large enough population to make it worth adding a forum. If you'd like that we can look into it. I suspect we have other users that haven't been as open about it.

I've had a girlfriend before but I'm hitched with a male now and a one relationship kind of person.

I hope things go smoothly for you and you have more positive experiences than not. :-6

I have mixed thoughts on this. I think it would be a great idea to have a lesbian/gay forum. However, FG and its members just seem to accept people as people, regardless of there nationality, race, sexual preference etc, so I wonder what it would really achieve?

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:40 am

Can I have an "I Like Sex in my Swimming Pool' forum

Uncle Kram · Post by **Uncle Kram** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:57 am

ThePheasant;795602 wrote: Can I have an "I Like Sex in my Swimming Pool' forum

You do mean when there's water in it..don't you? :-3

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:42 am

ThePheasant;795602 wrote: Can I have an "I Like Sex in my Swimming Pool' forum

I've wanted to try that but not having a swimming pool of my own I thought it best not to. After all having the lifeguards and those swimming lengths nearby would rather put me off my stroke:sneaky:

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:44 am

ThePheasant;795602 wrote: Can I have an "I Like Sex in my Swimming Pool' forum

This gives a whole new meaning to the "Breast Stroke":wah:

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:19 am

Imladris;795738 wrote: I've wanted to try that but not having a swimming pool of my own I thought it best not to. After all having the lifeguards and those swimming lengths nearby would rather put me off my stroke:sneaky:

Not to mention the fact that you would probably get thrown out under the 'No Heavy Petting' rule

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:20 am

Uncle Kram;795689 wrote: You do mean when there's water in it..don't you? :-3

See, there is a need for a forum about this. The debates on 'with or without water' could be endless

:D

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:26 am

ThePheasant;795827 wrote: Not to mention the fact that you would probably get thrown under the 'No Heavy Petting' rule

I didn't know about that rule!!!

That's it then, I'm not going back again......:sneaky:

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:50 am

ThePheasant;795599 wrote: I have mixed thoughts on this. I think it would be a great idea to have a lesbian/gay forum. However, FG and its members just seem to accept people as people, regardless of there nationality, race, sexual preference etc, so I wonder what it would really achieve?

For time periods there has been a homophobic undercurrent to FG that I've fought against. I don't see it as an issue with our current regular members but it has been a problem in the past.

My inclination against a specific forum is that FG has very high ranking google results and I'd hate to see any keywords result in a specialty forum being used as a... dating service.

littlemissgiggle · Post by **littlemissgiggle** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:21 am

I am pleased for you Hunni

and glad you are happy.

My best friend and many other friends are gay so i have no opinion.

your still our Daz :-4

chrisb84uk · Post by **chrisb84uk** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:50 pm

Couldn't agree more with everyone else on this subject. You are you and as long as you are happy, which by the sounds of it you are, then that's great! :-6

The thing that does worry me though, (but somehow not surprised,) is that a topic on being Gay ends up turning into a Brussel Sprout appreciation thread! Oh the joys of good old random FG!! :wah:

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:52 pm

chrisb84uk;796406 wrote: Couldn't agree more with everyone else on this subject. You are you and as long as you are happy, which by the sounds of it you are, then that's great! :-6

The thing that does worry me though, (but somehow not surprised,) is that a topic on being Gay ends up turning into a Brussel Sprout appreciation thread! Oh the joys of good old random FG!! :wah:

It just goes to show you, some people are gay for brussell sprouts and some ain't.

moonpie · Post by **moonpie** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:37 pm

Nothing wrong with being bi, gay or lesbian. I rather be one of those than a "red-neck".

Musiclover89 · Post by **Musiclover89** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:37 pm

Pinky;796562 wrote: Good for you sunshine!

I always say it's better to just be who you are and stuff anyone who doesn't like it.

I've got quite a few gay and lesbian friends, all of them say they found it far easier to admit than they thought it would be...I hope this is the case for you too as you're a total sweetie!

Aww thanks Pinky

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:51 pm

Pinky;796562 wrote: Good for you sunshine!

I always say it's better to just be who you are and stuff anyone who doesn't like it. Wouldn't that be rape? :-2

................... .................

:-3 Okay I'll go now.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:28 am

moonpie;796567 wrote: Nothing wrong with being bi, gay or lesbian. I rather be one of those than a "red-neck".

YZGI! We're being picked on!!

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:38 am

sunny104;798474 wrote: YZGI! We're being picked on!!

Ahem!! Speak for yourself. I am more of a tanned neck..:wah:

Furry Samaritan · Post by **Furry Samaritan** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:19 pm

Musiclover89;793698 wrote: Ok during my absense from here i've accepted the fact that i'm Gay i didn't at first but well now i've accepted it and i'm not ashmed of it i've even got a Boyfriend and just now i couldnt be happier with myself but anyway the point on this topic is what are your opinions on Gay/ Bi sexuals or Lesbians? please no religous B.S :wah:

I'm happy you've accepted and now value yourself. Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual is NOT the question in life...How do you interact with those around you? Are you a giver or a taker? Are you someone people confide in, or do people steer clear? Are you a positive, loving force in the universe, or are you self-interested, cold and a negative force? Do you get involved in finding solutions to problems or find excuses to let unsatisfactory situations stay the same? There was an old TV show back in the 70s - SOAP - and one of the best things I got from that show was the saying "People aren't needed for what they DO - They're needed for the way they make people around them FEEL" If you're one of those wonderful people who makes life brighter, then you should be proud, and you need not worry what others think of your sexuality or anything ELSE about you! If someone doesn't like you, it's their problem, their loss. I get the impression you're unflinching in your exploration of who you are. Two thumbs up. Keep me posted on how things go!

Omni_Skittles · Post by **Omni_Skittles** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:21 pm

I'm a homophobic. Can't help it, I was born that way.

Furry Samaritan · Post by **Furry Samaritan** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:02 pm

Accountable;793993 wrote: I think announcements like this are gauche, but glad to see you back. :-6

Accountable - if you absolutely MUST say something derogatory or negative - please say it to yourself. No need to try to ruin the supportive mood by your snarking comments. You've just gotten on to my IGNORE list!

Omni_Skittles · Post by **Omni_Skittles** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:06 pm

Furry Samaritan;801590 wrote: Accountable - if you absolutely MUST say something derogatory or negative - please say it to yourself. No need to try to ruin the supportive mood by your snarking comments. You've just gotten on to my IGNORE list!

Furry Samaritan · Post by **Furry Samaritan** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:10 pm

Omni_Skittles;801567 wrote: I'm a homophobic. Can't help it, I was born that way.

Nobody is BORN hateful toward any specific group of people - it's systematically indoctrinated by those around you. You have a choice whether to continue to follow in that thought pattern or break out of it. Sounds like you choose to simply follow what you've been taught by others.

Omni_Skittles · Post by **Omni_Skittles** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:14 pm

Furry Samaritan;801595 wrote: Nobody is BORN hateful toward any specific group of people - it's systematically indoctrinated by those around you. You have a choice whether to continue to follow in that thought pattern or break out of it. Sounds like you choose to simply follow what you've been taught by others.Whoa there! Homophobic does not mean HATE!!! it means i have a fear of them. sheesh.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:26 am

Furry Samaritan;801590 wrote: Accountable - if you absolutely MUST say something derogatory or negative - please say it to yourself. No need to try to ruin the supportive mood by your snarking comments. You've just gotten on to my IGNORE list!Taking a chance that you realize you've overreacted and took me off ignore, I'll respond anyway. First, imagine me placing my thumb on my nose and waggling my fingers. That done, Let's look at the opening post.

Musiclover89;793698 wrote: Ok during my absense from here i've accepted the fact that i'm Gay i didn't at first but well now i've accepted it and i'm not ashmed of it i've even got a Boyfriend and just now i couldnt be happier with myself but anyway the point on this topic is what are your opinions on Gay/ Bi sexuals or Lesbians? please no religous B.S :wah:To be fair, my post did not express my opinion of the people as requested, only my opinion of the announcement itself. But Musiclover didn't request to refrain from derogatory or negative remarks, only "religous [sic] B.S."

It was fairly obvious the man was asking for a congratulations party, knowing that doing so any more outright would invite some very negative and distasteful posters. His method was probably the best way to get the responses he desired. So, why did I respond the way I did?

I don't think a person's preference of sex partners has anything to do with the value I have for her/his opinions, talents or sense of humor - all of which Musiclover has by the truckload. I don't see a major difference between someone hollering "Hey world, I'm gay!" and "Hey world, I masturbate!" Both remarks are gauche, a word that I looked up on www.dictionary.com before I used it, just to make sure I wasn't being overly harsh. I suggest you do the same.

Now, on the off chance you are remotely interested in my opinion on "gay/ bisexuals or lesbians" as the OP requested, I'll use your words.Furry Samaritan;801564 wrote: I'm happy you've accepted and now value yourself. Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual is NOT the question in life...How do you interact with those around you?:yh_clap Absolutely! I agree 1000%. I couldn't care less who you're having sex with, as long as it's not me or my beloved.

Furry Samaritan wrote: Are you a giver or a taker? Are you someone people confide in, or do people steer clear? Are you a positive, loving force in the universe, or are you self-interested, cold and a negative force? Do you get involved in finding solutions to problems or find excuses to let unsatisfactory situations stay the same?Yup, yup, yup!! These are the really important questions in life. If you don't get these down right, you may never find love. Furry Samaritan wrote: There was an old TV show back in the 70s - SOAP - and one of the best things I got from that show was the saying "People aren't needed for what they DO - They're needed for the way they make people around them FEEL" If you're one of those wonderful people who makes life brighter, then you should be proud, and you need not worry what others think of your sexuality or anything ELSE about you!This could not have been stated better. Well done. I should have added something like this along with my remark. Thank you for giving me a chance to at least say ditto. Furry Samaritan wrote: If someone doesn't like you, it's their problem, their loss. I get the impression you're unflinching in your exploration of who you are. Two thumbs up.I can say the same about you, Furry. :-6

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:58 am

Furry Samaritan;801590 wrote: Accountable - if you absolutely MUST say something derogatory or negative - please say it to yourself. No need to try to ruin the supportive mood by your snarking comments. You've just gotten on to my IGNORE list!

Not really necessary to put Acc on the ignore list is it?

Can't you just have a different opinion without being so childish?

Without knowing either party well do you really think you are able to judge how their post was meant?

If Acc had said 'I hope you rot in hell for being gay' then you'd be justified in picking him up on it but he didn't.

Acc and ML have always got on as far as I'm aware, both are adults and quite able to express an opinion without falling out.

Welcome to FG anyway and I hope I'm not on your ignore list now!!

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:16 am

Furry Samaritan;801590 wrote: Accountable - if you absolutely MUST say something derogatory or negative - please say it to yourself. No need to try to ruin the supportive mood by your snarking comments. You've just gotten on to my IGNORE list!

wow! you might want to get to know us all a little better before you start passing such harsh judgements. :-3

Miss Maam · Post by **Miss Maam** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:35 am

Stop the bickering!

Can't we all just get along?

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:39 am

Miss Maam;802353 wrote: Stop the bickering!

Can't we all just get along?

NO!!!!!:D:D:D:rolleyes:

Omni_Skittles · Post by **Omni_Skittles** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:44 am

Imladris;802371 wrote: NO!!!!!:D:D:D:rolleyes:... you have issues... lol jk.

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:46 am

I strongly recommend we all put her on ignore

:D:D

Except me .... I am still enjoying the custard she sent

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:34 pm

Ah geez. I hope we haven't chased her away.

Furry Samaritan · Post by **Furry Samaritan** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:03 pm

Jester;801598 wrote: How will you know how he reacts if you put him on your ignore list? What if he apologizes and you never know it and he would have been the one person to give you that one small special pice of advice to make your world more perfect than it is now? How will you ever know, if you dont give him a change to reply and respond?

Hi Jester. My world is far from perfect, but I'm trying to improve it by minimizing the negativity others try to introduce.

I'm not looking for apologies for how (s)he feels - it's a good thing, too - because RARELY does anyone who wrongs another EVER apologize nowadays. It's a social grace that seems to have died with Aunt Bea in Mayberry! Today, most of the people I encounter brazen a situation out and find ways to shift blame onto the wronged party/ies.

I'm looking for as many positive interactions with people as possible - and anyone who STARTS OFF with a negative, snarking comment or attitude cannot reasonably be assumed to promise positivity down the line.

Thank you very much for your reply - I do appreciate it!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:18 pm

JAB;802926 wrote: You have no idea how wrong you are in this case. How sad that your quick judgement of others closes your mind so easily.
Thanks, JAB. :-6

Sorry for the hijack, Musiclover.

Wallaroo · Post by **Wallaroo** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:30 pm

Anybody who comes out and admits they are "gay" should be applauded,supported,respected and shown love and compassion!!

That takes a lot of guts - and i offer all of the above to anyone who fits in the above category

From experience i have found these are some of the nicest people, and NO i am not gay myself.

Cheers

Omni_Skittles · Post by **Omni_Skittles** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:50 pm

Wallaroo;802938 wrote: Anybody who comes out and admits they are "gay" should be applauded,supported,respected and shown love and compassion!!

That takes a lot of guts - and i offer all of the above to anyone who fits in the above category

From experience i have found these are some of the nicest people, and NO i am not gay myself.

Cheers :DIt does take a lot of courage. haha especially if there are people still like me around ^__^

Musiclover89 · Post by **Musiclover89** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:20 am

Gay bi or Lesbian people are still human beings so i don't see the point in hateing them its stupid and sad main reason i think people do it is to put them down in order to make them feel superior to them

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:51 am

Wallaroo;802938 wrote: Anybody who comes out and admits they are "gay" should be applauded,supported,respected and shown love and compassion!!

That takes a lot of guts - and i offer all of the above to anyone who fits in the above category

From experience i have found these are some of the nicest people, and NO i am not gay myself.

Cheers

Well, I see this as part of the problem. We still think someone that is gay needs to "come out". Who cares, if your gay be gay if your not don't be gay just be happy. In other words, if everyone would just be who they are and not feel the need to keep coming and going out it would all be easier.

I am a white American male heterosexual and I want all the world to know it.

Now give me some lovin...:wah:

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:53 am

YZGI;803301 wrote: Well, I see this as part of the problem. We still think someone that is gay needs to "come out". Who cares, if your gay be gay if your not don't be gay just be happy. In other words, if everyone would just be who they are and not feel the need to keep coming and going out it would all be easier.

I am a white American male heterosexual and I want all the world to know it.

Now give me some lovin...:wah:

again?? :yh_sweat

:wah:

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:57 am

sunny104;803306 wrote: again?? :yh_sweat

:wah:
:wah::guitarist

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:05 am

They are up to their old election year tricks again in the Pennsylvania Legislature trying to uphold the "Marriage Act" which would only allow marriage between a man and a woman. What a waste of taxpayer's money in my book. I don't see why it is such a big deal or why some people feel that letting gays/lesbians get married is wrong. Afterall, the state allows gays/lesbians to adopt children, so why not make it legal for them to be a family and get married?

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:16 am

Skittles, while honesty is a good policy, in this case, negativity is best followed by a buffer.

If you have a fear of homosexuals then the problem is with your fear not with the fact that homosexuals exist. Fear is generally a negative, and therefore undesirable, condition. Since you can't remove the chance of encountering homosexuals in your life then the only aspect that can be adjusted is your fear. Good luck with that. :-6

Furry Samaritan · Post by **Furry Samaritan** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:20 pm

JAB;802926 wrote: You have no idea how wrong you are in this case. How sad that your quick judgement of others closes your mind so easily.

These are observations born of many many MANY past experiences EXaCTLY as described above - been through it TOO MANY TIMES for it to be happenstance.

I don't have time or patience for game-playing or emotional tom-foolery. As a result of MANY SEVERE and UNFORGIVABLE offenses, I've had to develop an iron-clad policy of "your first offense against me is also you FINAL offense against me!"

All personal experience - no body here has walked in my shoes even ONE BLOCK, so no one here is qualified to dismiss my experiences as "wrong", or my current reaction as "inappropriate."

To those who have been positive and welcoming - THANK YOU. To those who feel the need to snark - just understand I shut down the minute it happens, and I decline all future communication. There! My policy's right out in front.