Crikey that's slick
Talk about a stroll down memory lane. That was just fun, it really was. I have a spare 6GB partition on this extremely small ancient AMD 1700+ desktop (it may not seem much to you but it works) and I thought I'd stay in practice a bit this afternoon to relax for a while. I burned the current Gentoo net install CD (not the Live thing, the roll up your sleeves one) and ran it. I also (essential ingredient, this) printed out the Quick Install guide.
Sure enough, there's a command line and a root login. Neat, I like command lines. That's actually as far as the installer takes you but it's done a good job, pat it on the back, I can see my partitions. There's a fun bit that involves getting an IP address but that's simple. I format the partition in question, turn on the swap, mount the partition have a look. It's empty.
Here's the first indication of how bare the Gentoo CD actually is. I have to run a command line browser just to fetch the 100MB skeletal archive off the gentoo ftp mirror and unpack it. Once it's into its directories we get what Gentoo's famed for - there's no kernel, just a kernel source and a compiler. Configuring the kernel inclusions at least has a menu hiding the thousand choices but they still have to be made. Very few boxes are ticked by default. Do I want PCI support? Well yes, duh. And sound and graphics, oddly enough. And yes, fortunately I do know what sound and graphics hardware is in my box or I'd really get nowhere, it still took me five tries to compile a usable graphics combination for my VIA Radeon card.
Even after that, Gentoo on my partition has a bare-bones look to it. My /boot directory has a kernel in it. Called "kernel". And nothing else at all. I've never seen a /boot like it. I'd always thought a system map was obligatory but apparently not.
I hand-craft the fstab, the net, things like the timezone. I've brought in the package installer at this point so I bring in a few utilities I can't cope without like mc and links and a command-line irc to keep in touch with the #gentoo community so they'll hear my pleased surprise noises. I'm about ready to boot my Gentoo partition for the first time. All I have to do first is learn how to run lilo without losing my real Slackware system on a computer with no floppy drive. It turns out to involve booting into Slack, mounting the Gentoo partition and adding the Gentoo image to the Slackware lilo.conf which is a trick I'd never heard of before.
So, reboot, what does Gentoo look like from the inside? Wow it's roomy, it echoes there's so much empty space, it's a cathedral. It's still just a command line but with the package manager - emerge - and mc to flit around the drive with and edit it's like running on ice in winter - I don't actually go anywhere but it's very very fast. And it's a full 1280x1024 framebuffered command line so it has a beautiful look to it. This distro has everything except programs.
What I've done since then is add X and fluxbox. After configuring X (I never manage to remember the monitor frequencies!) I'm sat in fluxbox. No background colour, no programs still, not much by way of fonts, not a single icon (which is the fluxbox way) but it's configurable and it feels right.
So, that was my afternoon's exploring and I'm back in Slackware now partly to decide what packages I want to compile into the Gentoo partition. Firefox would be a good start I suppose. It really is that bare, I still only have links to get onto the net with. Or I could just leave the partition as a command-line environment, who knows. Or I could wipe it. I'm glad I explored though.
A very brief review of Gentoo
A very brief review of Gentoo
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
A very brief review of Gentoo
PC world he other day, yes I did see it a notebook with a linux installation. Along with a desk top with twice the computing capacity of the dual core one I bought last year- for the same price.:-5
I would use linux but have too many things that need windows. I've got an ubuntu disc that I'm swithering about trying on a dual partition,. Not being a geek I'm wary about screwing up my work computer.
Which one do you use most of the time?
I would use linux but have too many things that need windows. I've got an ubuntu disc that I'm swithering about trying on a dual partition,. Not being a geek I'm wary about screwing up my work computer.
Which one do you use most of the time?
A very brief review of Gentoo
gmc;798222 wrote: PC world he other day, yes I did see it a notebook with a linux installation. Along with a desk top with twice the computing capacity of the dual core one I bought last year- for the same price.:-5
I would use linux but have too many things that need windows. I've got an ubuntu disc that I'm swithering about trying on a dual partition,. Not being a geek I'm wary about screwing up my work computer.
Which one do you use most of the time?
From this end it's Ubuntu all the time unless I need a Windoze specific program like my accounts package - I'd move that but it has my last ??? years accounts on it.
I would use linux but have too many things that need windows. I've got an ubuntu disc that I'm swithering about trying on a dual partition,. Not being a geek I'm wary about screwing up my work computer.
Which one do you use most of the time?
From this end it's Ubuntu all the time unless I need a Windoze specific program like my accounts package - I'd move that but it has my last ??? years accounts on it.
A very brief review of Gentoo
Do you of any way I can get mozilla to work with IE only sited? Someone e-mailed me a link for a downnload that would do it but in a fir of uncharacteristic tidiness I deleted the e-mail and address. (I decided a year was too long to keep e0mails but got carried away and took out some more recent ones a well)
A very brief review of Gentoo
gmc;798222 wrote: PC world he other day, yes I did see it a notebook with a linux installation. Along with a desk top with twice the computing capacity of the dual core one I bought last year- for the same price.:-5
I would use linux but have too many things that need windows. I've got an ubuntu disc that I'm swithering about trying on a dual partition,. Not being a geek I'm wary about screwing up my work computer.
Which one do you use most of the time?
Our other thread participant uses Ubuntu, I use Slackware, if I did end up using Gentoo it wouldn't be for quite a while. Actually that might not be true, I do have a specific use for it that might see me in there most days for the next couple of months but.
Anyway, I don't have any Microsoft at the moment at all. That's not prejudice, it's economy. Bill Gates is hero status as far as I'm concerned.
Either of these graphics-focused linuxes is pretty good at running applications written for Microsoft Windows, I have several .exe files which I run as though they were native to linux and they're indistinguishable. Whether that applies to these "too many things that need windows" of which you speak I can't guess. It only takes one to force you to retain a Microsoft capacity though.
When I was a lad I used to understand the computer I worked on to a depth I considered acceptable, for several computers. I could make them sit up and beg. Despite having been responsible for configuring and maintenance and training on several Microsoft networks in the last fifteen years I've never felt in that position regarding Microsoft's operating systems. I'm good but I'm not totally in charge down to the individual lines and bits in the areas I touch, and I say that as someone to whom The Mother Of All Windows 3.1, 860pp, Woody Leonhard and Barry Simon was light entertainment, as were its successor volumes). I can see that I could be again with linux and I need that feeling to be completely happy with my computer. It doesn't matter how big it is, it's what I can do with it that matters to me.
Getting mozilla (or Seamonkey or Firefox) to work with IE only sites involves a plug-in, User Agent Switcher. Have a look at http://useragentswitcher.mozdev.org/ for the mozilla comments. What'll you switch to now that mozilla's at the end of the support line?
If you get a USB2 memory stick to keep your desktop configuration and files on then most Live CD or DVD versions of Linux (like the Ubuntu or Knoppix ones) will stay completely away from your hard drives and make no changes at all to your computer. When you want a day in Ubuntu you put in the DVD and memory stick, boot the computer up and you're where you left off in Ubuntu last time. I spent a couple of months running like that, it's painless and you don't have to worry about changing your Microsoft setup at all. Take out the memory stick and DVD, reboot and you're back where you were to start with.
I would use linux but have too many things that need windows. I've got an ubuntu disc that I'm swithering about trying on a dual partition,. Not being a geek I'm wary about screwing up my work computer.
Which one do you use most of the time?
Our other thread participant uses Ubuntu, I use Slackware, if I did end up using Gentoo it wouldn't be for quite a while. Actually that might not be true, I do have a specific use for it that might see me in there most days for the next couple of months but.
Anyway, I don't have any Microsoft at the moment at all. That's not prejudice, it's economy. Bill Gates is hero status as far as I'm concerned.
Either of these graphics-focused linuxes is pretty good at running applications written for Microsoft Windows, I have several .exe files which I run as though they were native to linux and they're indistinguishable. Whether that applies to these "too many things that need windows" of which you speak I can't guess. It only takes one to force you to retain a Microsoft capacity though.
When I was a lad I used to understand the computer I worked on to a depth I considered acceptable, for several computers. I could make them sit up and beg. Despite having been responsible for configuring and maintenance and training on several Microsoft networks in the last fifteen years I've never felt in that position regarding Microsoft's operating systems. I'm good but I'm not totally in charge down to the individual lines and bits in the areas I touch, and I say that as someone to whom The Mother Of All Windows 3.1, 860pp, Woody Leonhard and Barry Simon was light entertainment, as were its successor volumes). I can see that I could be again with linux and I need that feeling to be completely happy with my computer. It doesn't matter how big it is, it's what I can do with it that matters to me.
Getting mozilla (or Seamonkey or Firefox) to work with IE only sites involves a plug-in, User Agent Switcher. Have a look at http://useragentswitcher.mozdev.org/ for the mozilla comments. What'll you switch to now that mozilla's at the end of the support line?
If you get a USB2 memory stick to keep your desktop configuration and files on then most Live CD or DVD versions of Linux (like the Ubuntu or Knoppix ones) will stay completely away from your hard drives and make no changes at all to your computer. When you want a day in Ubuntu you put in the DVD and memory stick, boot the computer up and you're where you left off in Ubuntu last time. I spent a couple of months running like that, it's painless and you don't have to worry about changing your Microsoft setup at all. Take out the memory stick and DVD, reboot and you're back where you were to start with.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
A very brief review of Gentoo
I played Pong last week, does that count?
A very brief review of Gentoo
YZGI;798487 wrote: I played Pong last week, does that count?
it's so hot when he talks like that...
it's so hot when he talks like that...
A very brief review of Gentoo
Frank Zappa got mobbed by groupies too, you know.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
A very brief review of Gentoo
I woke up this morning with a twenty five year old memory in my head and I even know why it was there. It was of a tight piece of code I wrote for the BBC B, it was a printer driver for View (the BBC's equivalent of Word if Microsoft will forgive the comparison) and printer drivers were allowed 256 bytes. Not as a buffer - that's 256 bytes for the code and temporary variables as well. It was to support a daisywheel that had microspacing characters and with this driver it actually microspaced, it bolded by shimmying the head along a twentieth of an em and retyping the character, it did all sorts. I wrote it in 6502 assembler and the entire language is missing from my head, I can't even remember how many registers it had available, it's evaporated. That doesn't mean I couldn't refind it if I had a 6502 compiler in front of me and a cheat-sheet but just at the moment there's not a hint of the instruction set left at all. I can't even work out how many languages I've been paid to use that I've subsequently forgotten which really is distressing. Somewhere in double figures, that's all I'm sure of.
Why, I hear you ask in tones of mounting incredulity, do you think there's anything worth posting about this? Bear with me, it gets interesting. It's all because of Peter Norton whose name I mentioned last night to my brother. It's why microspacing crept into my dream.
There's a wonderful remnant of the antique world, rather like the head of Ozymandias, sat dormant and optional underneath linux, and it's called Midnight Commander. Few distributions bother to carry it these days, it's viewed perhaps as obsolete by the modern microspaced GUI-led fraternity. It's a clone of an ancient DOS utility written by Peter Norton called Norton Commander which was the most functional program, and the first program, for file handling that the wit of man ever devised. Think of Windows Explorer - a single view into diskspace. Peter Norton put two views, not just one (and Microsoft followed him for years with the stolid and far less useful File Manager, I've no idea why that faded away). The left and right panels could independently go to any directory on the computer, the highlight could tab to either panel and there were function keys for delete, rename, copy, all the file handling you could hope for. And then - the genius of the man - a key marked View which let you browse the content. And finally - to put it into a stratospheric class of its own - a key marked Edit. This is one powerful piece of software he designed a quarter of a century ago. There are independent packages which run under Microsoft Windows based on that file handling still available except people don't feel the need these days - ZWin is a good one, based on XTree based on Norton Commander - but none of them have the sense of power that Norton's original had. This program, Norton Commander, together with his defragmenter, made the man so famous that he ended up selling his name to Symantec, it's where "God I wouldn't touch Norton with a bargepole it's such a bloated resource hog" comes from. Fancy selling your own name and seeing it dragged into the mud by a bunch of strange programmers, it must be an odd experience.
My point being that the Commander clone is still there for the observant and I use it. I type in its editor and it isn't microspaced. It's fixed width, it's so easy on the eye, it's what computers were meant to be before the wrist-breaking mouse escaped from the graphics design purpose it was intended for and became the least suitable typewriter adjunct of all time. Which is why I woke up remembering my 6502 assembly View printer driver.
Why, I hear you ask in tones of mounting incredulity, do you think there's anything worth posting about this? Bear with me, it gets interesting. It's all because of Peter Norton whose name I mentioned last night to my brother. It's why microspacing crept into my dream.
There's a wonderful remnant of the antique world, rather like the head of Ozymandias, sat dormant and optional underneath linux, and it's called Midnight Commander. Few distributions bother to carry it these days, it's viewed perhaps as obsolete by the modern microspaced GUI-led fraternity. It's a clone of an ancient DOS utility written by Peter Norton called Norton Commander which was the most functional program, and the first program, for file handling that the wit of man ever devised. Think of Windows Explorer - a single view into diskspace. Peter Norton put two views, not just one (and Microsoft followed him for years with the stolid and far less useful File Manager, I've no idea why that faded away). The left and right panels could independently go to any directory on the computer, the highlight could tab to either panel and there were function keys for delete, rename, copy, all the file handling you could hope for. And then - the genius of the man - a key marked View which let you browse the content. And finally - to put it into a stratospheric class of its own - a key marked Edit. This is one powerful piece of software he designed a quarter of a century ago. There are independent packages which run under Microsoft Windows based on that file handling still available except people don't feel the need these days - ZWin is a good one, based on XTree based on Norton Commander - but none of them have the sense of power that Norton's original had. This program, Norton Commander, together with his defragmenter, made the man so famous that he ended up selling his name to Symantec, it's where "God I wouldn't touch Norton with a bargepole it's such a bloated resource hog" comes from. Fancy selling your own name and seeing it dragged into the mud by a bunch of strange programmers, it must be an odd experience.
My point being that the Commander clone is still there for the observant and I use it. I type in its editor and it isn't microspaced. It's fixed width, it's so easy on the eye, it's what computers were meant to be before the wrist-breaking mouse escaped from the graphics design purpose it was intended for and became the least suitable typewriter adjunct of all time. Which is why I woke up remembering my 6502 assembly View printer driver.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
A very brief review of Gentoo
My old computer is still around-I had to upgrade to get one that could cope with scanning documents. I think I'll dig it out and play around with it. The trouble is it's a bit like this forum, a distraction from what i should be doing.
O.K I admit it I'm a cured workaholic
O.K I admit it I'm a cured workaholic
A very brief review of Gentoo
gmc;799235 wrote: My old computer is still around-I had to upgrade to get one that could cope with scanning documents. I think I'll dig it out and play around with it. The trouble is it's a bit like this forum, a distraction from what i should be doing.I hate to sound nosey but how big is it?
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
A very brief review of Gentoo
spot;799239 wrote: I hate to sound nosey but how big is it?
AMD athlon dual core processor, 2gb of ram. My old one has a 800ghz chip. It's like watching paint dry in comparison.
Actually I didn't know mozilla was at the end of it's support line. Are you sure? they seem to be still upgrading it. Have you used lightning? I've been playing around with sunbird. I need a full blown diary but am wary of going up a software dead end like happened with lotus-used to use organiser a lot-can't work out how to update my version of sunbird, there doesn't seem tp be any option to update. Do you happen to know?
AMD athlon dual core processor, 2gb of ram. My old one has a 800ghz chip. It's like watching paint dry in comparison.
Actually I didn't know mozilla was at the end of it's support line. Are you sure? they seem to be still upgrading it. Have you used lightning? I've been playing around with sunbird. I need a full blown diary but am wary of going up a software dead end like happened with lotus-used to use organiser a lot-can't work out how to update my version of sunbird, there doesn't seem tp be any option to update. Do you happen to know?
A very brief review of Gentoo
Spot I totally forgot about this program I used it all through the late 70's early 80's when it first came out. I think I actually have a floppy of it. Nortons command line prompts in the old day were my salvation and DOS. People still refer to me as a DOS Dinosaurs. Nothing like a Command prompt. Norton was the later to become Symantec. Those were the days. 
[QUOTE]It's a clone of an ancient DOS utility written by Peter Norton called Norton Commander which was the most functional program, and the first program, for file handling that the wit of man ever devised. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]It's a clone of an ancient DOS utility written by Peter Norton called Norton Commander which was the most functional program, and the first program, for file handling that the wit of man ever devised. [/QUOTE]
ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
A very brief review of Gentoo
gmc;800072 wrote: AMD athlon dual core processor, 2gb of ram. My old one has a 800ghz chip. It's like watching paint dry in comparison.
Actually I didn't know mozilla was at the end of it's support line. Are you sure? they seem to be still upgrading it. Have you used lightning? I've been playing around with sunbird. I need a full blown diary but am wary of going up a software dead end like happened with lotus-used to use organiser a lot-can't work out how to update my version of sunbird, there doesn't seem tp be any option to update. Do you happen to know?
Excuse me but the machine I used before this one was an ARM 620 bought in 1989 running RiscOS 2 (this followed my BBC Model B bought in 1983 which followed my Ohio Scientific Superboard III bought in 1979). I upgraded it to a StrongArm 110 running RiscOS 4 in about 1997 and used it continuously until 2004 - it was still capable of all I required but my daughter's schooling dictated a WinTel dinosaur and I gave in and bought a Pentium IV monstrosity. It was way behind in graphics capability but would run the stuff she needed for school.
Having had four PCs in thirty years I am applaud at the lifetime of the WinTel machines I have used since - hopefully my move to Ubuntu will signal the start of a new life.
Actually I didn't know mozilla was at the end of it's support line. Are you sure? they seem to be still upgrading it. Have you used lightning? I've been playing around with sunbird. I need a full blown diary but am wary of going up a software dead end like happened with lotus-used to use organiser a lot-can't work out how to update my version of sunbird, there doesn't seem tp be any option to update. Do you happen to know?
Excuse me but the machine I used before this one was an ARM 620 bought in 1989 running RiscOS 2 (this followed my BBC Model B bought in 1983 which followed my Ohio Scientific Superboard III bought in 1979). I upgraded it to a StrongArm 110 running RiscOS 4 in about 1997 and used it continuously until 2004 - it was still capable of all I required but my daughter's schooling dictated a WinTel dinosaur and I gave in and bought a Pentium IV monstrosity. It was way behind in graphics capability but would run the stuff she needed for school.
Having had four PCs in thirty years I am applaud at the lifetime of the WinTel machines I have used since - hopefully my move to Ubuntu will signal the start of a new life.
A very brief review of Gentoo
Bryn Mawr;800190 wrote: Excuse me but the machine I used before this one was an ARM 620 bought in 1989 running RiscOS 2 (this followed my BBC Model B bought in 1983 which followed my Ohio Scientific Superboard III bought in 1979). I upgraded it to a StrongArm 110 running RiscOS 4 in about 1997 and used it continuously until 2004 - it was still capable of all I required but my daughter's schooling dictated a WinTel dinosaur and I gave in and bought a Pentium IV monstrosity. It was way behind in graphics capability but would run the stuff she needed for school.
Having had four PCs in thirty years I am applaud at the lifetime of the WinTel machines I have used since - hopefully my move to Ubuntu will signal the start of a new life.
My old one still works just fine but I couldn't upgrade and would have had to build another. (OK somebody helped me do it) It is actually cheaper just to buy one now that get one constructed. I have a paperless office, I need lots of memory and a dual core otherwise I spent a surprising amount of time waiting for it to finish scanning.
Having had four PCs in thirty years I am applaud at the lifetime of the WinTel machines I have used since - hopefully my move to Ubuntu will signal the start of a new life.
My old one still works just fine but I couldn't upgrade and would have had to build another. (OK somebody helped me do it) It is actually cheaper just to buy one now that get one constructed. I have a paperless office, I need lots of memory and a dual core otherwise I spent a surprising amount of time waiting for it to finish scanning.
A very brief review of Gentoo
CARLA;800133 wrote: Spot I totally forgot about this program I used it all through the late 70's early 80's when it first came out. I think I actually have a floppy of it. Nortons command line prompts in the old day were my salvation and DOS. People still refer to me as a DOS Dinosaurs. Nothing like a Command prompt. Norton was the later to become Symantec. Those were the days.
Here you are Carla, straight off my desktop, I'm sure it looks the way it used to when you used it. Twenty years on and still going strong, it's a wonderful program.
Gmc, I'm sure you can install any of these distributions on an 800MHz desktop and enjoy finding out how it works if that's spare and doing nothing else, it'll run fine.
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Here you are Carla, straight off my desktop, I'm sure it looks the way it used to when you used it. Twenty years on and still going strong, it's a wonderful program.
Gmc, I'm sure you can install any of these distributions on an 800MHz desktop and enjoy finding out how it works if that's spare and doing nothing else, it'll run fine.
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Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
A very brief review of Gentoo
OMG that is it, boy that brings back fond memories of the good ol days. :wah:
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ALOHA!!
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
A very brief review of Gentoo
posted by spot
Gmc, I'm sure you can install any of these distributions on an 800MHz desktop and enjoy finding out how it works if that's spare and doing nothing else, it'll run fine.
It does. I've played around with mandrake and at one point installed suse but I don't have the time or expertise to take full advantage. I'm stuck with windows for some work applications that I can't do without. the other problem is web sited that only work with internet explorer. Microsoft do have things pretty well stitched up.
Gmc, I'm sure you can install any of these distributions on an 800MHz desktop and enjoy finding out how it works if that's spare and doing nothing else, it'll run fine.
It does. I've played around with mandrake and at one point installed suse but I don't have the time or expertise to take full advantage. I'm stuck with windows for some work applications that I can't do without. the other problem is web sited that only work with internet explorer. Microsoft do have things pretty well stitched up.
A very brief review of Gentoo
gmc;801699 wrote: posted by spot
It does. I've played around with mandrake and at one point installed suse but I don't have the time or expertise to take full advantage. I'm stuck with windows for some work applications that I can't do without. the other problem is web sited that only work with internet explorer. Microsoft do have things pretty well stitched up.
Not any more - the independents have realized the tactic and allow their browsers to mimic Internet Explorer's signature so the IE-Only sites are duped into allowing the requests. It's the non-IE browsers' responsibility to interpret what they get back in an IE manner under those circumstances, the bullying "we won't talk to you" is pre-emptive presupposition on the server's part and quite unjustified.
It does. I've played around with mandrake and at one point installed suse but I don't have the time or expertise to take full advantage. I'm stuck with windows for some work applications that I can't do without. the other problem is web sited that only work with internet explorer. Microsoft do have things pretty well stitched up.
Not any more - the independents have realized the tactic and allow their browsers to mimic Internet Explorer's signature so the IE-Only sites are duped into allowing the requests. It's the non-IE browsers' responsibility to interpret what they get back in an IE manner under those circumstances, the bullying "we won't talk to you" is pre-emptive presupposition on the server's part and quite unjustified.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.