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souce bnp website

bet you don’t know that cosmopolitan Peterborough, where British service personnel were recently forbidden to wear their uniforms, has its very own mini shanty towns! Yes, that’s right, thanks to our porous borders and a Labour government that just hates to say “goodbye” to our uninvited “guests” from the Third World and eastern Europe, Peterborough now has several shanty “towns” to rival any in South America or Africa – except, presently, in terms of size.

According to a Daily Mail report: “The torn tents, slop buckets and overpowering odour of human waste suggest it is a refugee camp but this squalid scene is not the makeshift shelter created by victims of some war-torn region, but the home of economic migrants in modern-day Britain! It shows how many live after arriving from Eastern European countries hoping for a better life.

Peterborough city council said many at the camp had refused offers of help to find work and accommodation. It is home to Lithuanians, Slovakians, Poles, Ukrainians and Russians who live on charity handouts.

Sources say there could be up to 200 migrants living in a dozen similar temporary settlements around the city.

This is the Britain that the Labour Government has created - with a little help from the Lib-Dems.

As an aside – we can’t help but notice that the very same Labour Government has just announced an increased in the duty on beer by 4p, on a packet of cigarettes by 11p, on a bottle of wine by 14p and on a bottle off spirits by 55p – all necessary to raise “much needed revenue”! Yet it was only last month that they pledged £860 million to India in “aid” – no wonder Darling’s coffers are empty and the taxpayer is to be squeezed yet again to fund Labour’s pet projects!
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Terrible, deport them all, take back all of your citizens who live in other EU nations (I'm thinking Spain, Portugal, South of France, Northern Italy), build a 120 foot high wall around the coast and close the airports, leave the EU, and sell the country shire by shire to the U.S. administration to raise some revenue. :wah:
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Be kind. Be civilized. The poor lad's obviously suffering. We don't like to see people suffer.

If he has a solution to our national ills it would be in all our interests for him to persuade us. Democracy in action and all that.

How shall we change the current state of affairs so as to improve matters and bring in the Golden Age, that's the question he's wetting himself to answer here. Just look at him sat in the corner, hand up pleading to be asked, knees clenched in desperation.

Go for it.
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spot;801817 wrote: Be kind. Be civilized. The poor lad's obviously suffering. We don't like to see people suffer.

If he has a solution to our national ills it would be in all our interests for him to persuade us. Democracy in action and all that.

How shall we change the current state of affairs so as to improve matters and bring in the Golden Age, that's the question he's wetting himself to answer here. Just look at him sat in the corner, hand up pleading to be asked, knees clenched in desperation.

Go for it.


Alright then I shall ask the question. How do we bring about the "Golden Age" does this involve invading Poland, smashing World Jewry, and pushing on to Moscow before the winter by any chance? Damn, I was going to outline that plan at the next county council meeting as a way of dealing with the gypsies. :thinking:
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I like the Moscow option, I know what went wrong last time too. We need better overcoats and boots.
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They were our principle export crop for a hundred years, RJ. Sadly consumer demand collapsed, we've plenty stockpiled.
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In the interests of a balanced viewpoint

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spot;801833 wrote: I like the Moscow option, I know what went wrong last time too. We need better overcoats and boots.


Yes, I recommend Timberland anoraks and those CAT boots, Moscow or bust, third time lucky eh? :rolleyes:
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just to clarify

this is not the work of my twisted mind but a copy and paste from the b.n.p. website

highlighting these shanty camps cropping up around peterborough .

why head for peterborugh ? i used to live in the new england part of peterborugh

in the 80s when i was looking for work .

anyway i watched a programme on the bbc called the poles are coming in which the former labour coucillor for peterborough now independant said on national tv that the government hasnt got a clue as to how many illegal immigrants we have in the uk.

it then showed women doing the mens jobs in gdansk becuse the men had gone abroad.

even in the gdansk shipyard the trainees quite openly said they where going to go to the uk when they finished their training.

yet they are trying to find ways in poland to persuade people to come home becuase of the skills shortage in polish industry.

it finally followed a polish husband and a bus full of other poles who where making the 24 hour bus journey from gdansk to the uk to find a better life and he just waltzed straight in this proves teflon tonys open door policy lives on

the poles interveiwed for the programme said some regretted making the journey as they now dont have the money to return home.

and now the shanty towns and a government who have signed away our soverignty to brussels leaving us open to more migrants where will it all end ?

the majority of the british people say that enough is enough and will take their revenge at the next election labour hasnt got a chance but have we come too far to reverse the legacy that teflon tony and his labour cronies have left

behind?

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Isn't it delightful? If I'd been asked to design a perfect future when I was a lad I'd have been hard pressed to come up with one this good.

You can always go and live out the remainder of your days among the remaining outposts of the Raj, you know. Kenya, perhaps, or some estate farm north of Salisbury. We could exchange Christmas cards to check how you're doing.
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AA grumpy;802132 wrote: just to clarify

this is not the work of my twisted mind but a copy and paste from the b.n.p. website

highlighting these shanty camps cropping up around peterborough .

why head for peterborugh ? i used to live in the new england part of peterborugh

in the 80s when i was looking for work .

anyway i watched a programme on the bbc called the poles are coming in which the former labour coucillor for peterborough now independant said on national tv that the government hasnt got a clue as to how many illegal immigrants we have in the uk.

it then showed women doing the mens jobs in gdansk becuse the men had gone abroad.

even in the gdansk shipyard the trainees quite openly said they where going to go to the uk when they finished their training.

yet they are trying to find ways in poland to persuade people to come home becuase of the skills shortage in polish industry.

it finally followed a polish husband and a bus full of other poles who where making the 24 hour bus journey from gdansk to the uk to find a better life and he just waltzed straight in this proves teflon tonys open door policy lives on

the poles interveiwed for the programme said some regretted making the journey as they now dont have the money to return home.

and now the shanty towns and a government who have signed away our soverignty to brussels leaving us open to more migrants where will it all end ?

the majority of the british people say that enough is enough and will take their revenge at the next election labour hasnt got a chance but have we come too far to reverse the legacy that teflon tony and his labour cronies have left

behind?

AAG


Rubbish. It was thanks to the tories and their demented dreams of empire that we didn't get involved with the EEC right at the beginning so that we had to go cap in hand begging to join in the seventies. We joined AFTER the referendum was a yes vote. ( which is something both the BNP and UKIP like to pretend never happened) NONE of the much vaunted inward investment that maggie was so proud of would have happened without us being in the EU.

It was the tories that encouraged immigration to the motherland from the old empire in the first place. It was Maggie Thatcher that wasted all the revenues from the north sea oil in putting 3 million people on the dole and giving tax cuts we didn't need instead of investing it in industry. She destroyed the coal industry and insisted on building gas fired power stations (instead of developing cleaner coal fired station) despite being told that the north sea gas would only last about twenty years and then we would end up dependent on imports and at the mercy of whichever country controlled the pipeline. Well guess what it's now twenty years later and we're dependant on russia for our future fuel need, we have to import coal for the for the coal fired ones we have left and oh yes we have to go abroad to buy in the technology we should have developed ourselves. It was also thatcher that left us with the shambles we call railways because of the half arsed politically motivated way she denationalised them.

Between them Tony Blair and Maggie thatcher have been the two most destructive prime ministers in recent history. I can't stand new labour but the tories have had far longer to screw things up that they have had. While the sight of TB looking for his legacy with a pair of tweezers is hardly enervating maggies went down the plughole.
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I don't really understand the British right wing thing about the poles or the Eastern Europeans, surely the BNP should be delighted that white Europeans are choosing to come to live in England, you know white power and all that, I thought it was the blacks and the muslims they really don't like?

To be serious though I can understand the worry about uncontrolled immigration into any country, its understandable that people don't want to have too much social or economic displacement of the native community through very high levels of immigration in a short time, thats perfectly fine. But there are a lot of upsides to immigration, it really is not all negative, the major upside of particularly Eastern European immigration into Western Europe (and its a big upside) is that the majority of these people are young, hard working, fairly well educated, and happy enough to integrate with the host culture as they are already Europeans, and if you travel across Europe you realize that the countries of Europe are more similar than different in most of the things that count.

They are moving into Western countries where the population is aging, social welfare and health systems are struggling to cope with the costs of an aging and more long-lived population, and taking jobs that frankly many western Europeans think are beneath them, but need to be done by someone, also they tend to work for less money, which keeps wage inflation low in certain sectors of the economy. So essetially you are gaining, a young, fit, well educated, adaptable and relatively cheap work-force to complement your own people, thats a positive thing if you want economic growth.

The economy of any country is dependent on their being a large amount of productive working young people. Also because movement across EU borders is easy for EU citizens, these people do not have to stay in Britain if the economy deteriorates, but can either go back to their home state, or move onto to another state where there are more jobs for transitory workers. And of course British people are also perfectly entitled to go to other EU countries to find work, and I would suggest to you than once the realization sets in of the state of Britain's real economic position (that the housing boom, the huge expansion of personal credit withough a concurrent increase in earnings, the profligate government spending, the slavish hitching of Britain to the fortunes of the US, the refusal to contemplate adopting the Euro for political reasons, and failure to invest in British based productive enterprises that both the Labour and Tory governments of recent times have achieved) sets in, then a lot of pragmatic Brits will be looking outside Britain for work.

The current situation with EU immigration is one that benefits Britain over the long term, thats a fact. As does the fact that many British people make use of the rights they also have to move to any other EU state and live there (which is what so many move to Spain or Portugal, there are hundreds of thousands of British people living in other EU states, no one makes a fuss about that, except to complain occasionally about their drinking habits.

This is quite different from large scale immigration Asia or Africa into European countries, which admittedly is more difficult both for the immigrants themselves in having to adapt to a quite different society with people who are racially and culturually different, and the European country taking them in. I do have to agree with GMCs point that the large amount of non European immigration into Britain has largely been the result of Britain's colonial past, and its past view of itself as the "motherland" of some big multi-racial, multi-ethnic global trading empire, when of course it never was, it was just a very powerful Imperial European country with the title deeds to a lot of other people's countrys, like Spain or Holland before it. That many Asian or African people from across the former counties of the Empire naively believed this myth, pedelled by the British establishment on everyone, (including their own people) and came to Britain with the promise of jobs, British citizenship, a shared future and all the rest is just a fact of history, they can hardly be blamed for that.
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Galbally;802543 wrote: That many Asian or African people from across the former counties of the Empire naively believed this myth, pedelled by the British establishment on everyone, (including their own people) and came to Britain with the promise of jobs, British citizenship, a shared future and all the rest is just a fact of history, they can hardly be blamed for that.


Neither, if I might be allowed to interject, can any aspect past or present of the Labour party. Who removed the whip from Enoch Powell? It was scarcely Dennis Healey now, was it. From 1951 to 1997, a period of 47 years which has to be considered key to the UK's immigration policy, the governance of the UK was in the hands of the Conservative party for 36 years compared to the Labour party's 11 years. If mass immigration is the spavined offspring of any political movement it's that of the right wing of the UK, not the left.
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posted by galbally

I don't really understand the British right wing thing about the poles or the Eastern Europeans, surely the BNP should be delighted that white Europeans are choosing to come to live in England, you know white power and all that, I thought it was the blacks and the muslims they really don't like?




Think Nazi race propaganda. The east europeans are inferior races, slavs etc. they also don't seem too keen on wops and dagoes either. They're not really white white if you get my drift. Come to think of it, bog trotting paddies, (like your good self:D) probably aren't welcome either.

Not racist of course just keen to preserve their british identity although most of he ones I've met generally know a lot less than they think they do about our history , but they are good at quoting the last pamphlet they read. (bit like revolutionary socialists there) Oh and of course they don't like catholics, which most of the east europeans are. Mind you i know a few protestants that think the Church of England is little better than the catholic church.

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gmc;802738 wrote: posted by galbally



Think Nazi race propaganda. The east europeans are inferior races, slavs etc. they also don't seem too keen on wops and dagoes either. They're not really white white if you get my drift. Come to think of it, bog trotting paddies, (like your good self:D) probably aren't welcome either.

Not racist of course just keen to preserve their british identity although most of he ones I've met generally know a lot less than they think they do about our history , but they are good at quoting the last pamphlet they read. (bit like revolutionary socialists there) Oh and of course they don't like catholics, which most of the east europeans are. Mind you i know a few protestants that think the Church of England is little better than the catholic church.

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Well all I can say is that any English people I have encountered have always been decent and normally very polite, as were scots, the welsh I don't know, I presume they are decent auld skins as well. Also, being born in England (Birmingham, up the Villa) I am myself a little bit English as well as Irish, (at least in the influence of the formative years), so I am a complete mongrel altogether. Good lord. :wah:
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Galbally;802848 wrote: Well all I can say is that any English people I have encountered have always been decent and normally very polite, as were scots, the welsh I don't know, I presume they are decent auld skins as well. Also, being born in England (Birmingham, up the Villa) I am myself a little bit English as well as Irish, (at least in the influence of the formative years), so I am a complete mongrel altogether. Good lord. :wah:


As are we all. The thing is you expect prejudice to be logical and based on carefully thought out reasoning when often it's anything but. You can be talking to sopmeone who seems nice-a decent sort then suddenly a switch goes and you hit on a prejudice that usually isn't based on any real subjective experience. Some of my own countrymen's anti English prejudice jars with me. My wife is English so maybe I notice it more.

Actually I was watching a programme last night about the thatcher years. It's easy to forget how detested she was in large parts of the country. New Labour are the same I think you're watching the last days in power for some time to come for the labour party. The choices are pretty depressing really. Then again we've always done well despite useless politicians.
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