DANBURY, Conn. - Danbury officials have been notified they are being sued by a student who was awakened in class by a teacher who made a loud noise. Documents filed with the Town Clerk, a prelude to a lawsuit, claim that a sleeping student suffered hearing damage when his teacher woke him up by slamming her hand down on the boy's desk in December.
Attorney Alan Barry says 15-year-old Vinicios Robacher suffered pain and "very severe injuries to his left eardrum" when teacher Melissa Nadeau abruptly slammed the palm of her hand on his desk on Dec. 4.
A city official says the matter has been referred to Danbury's insurance carrier.
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That stuff always frustrates me!! Let the teacher do their job - they're only trying to give the kids an education. Mind you, if he continues to sleep through class then at least he won't be educated enough to sue people for stupid incidents like this! (I'm presuming that his parents are pushing this one)
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What is he doing sleeping in class? And what would have happened if the teacher let him keep sleeping all morning long and he missed his other classes? Would she be sued for not waking him up? Give me a break indeed!
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rjwould;803198 wrote: The teacher has other tools at her disposal. What is the difference between waking the student as she did and in a more gentle manner? Why did she have to slam her hand down? To teach him and everyone else a lesson?
The teacher is out of line just as much as the student is but being sued is not the answer..The problem is, the kid doesn't have any other recourse and the parents obviously do not know how to communicate to school officials.
If it were my kid, I would have told him to stop sleeping in class and told the teacher in no uncertain terms that she has no right doing what she did either, her job is to either pass or fail the student or ask that he be removed from her class, but not to do as she did....period..
What kind of an example is she setting? To be intolerant, disruptive and nasty when behavior she can't control is displayed?
When he gets into the working world, will he sue his boss for waking him up while sleeping on the job because the boss didn't rub his feet to wake him up so he could fire him?
The teacher is out of line just as much as the student is but being sued is not the answer..The problem is, the kid doesn't have any other recourse and the parents obviously do not know how to communicate to school officials.
If it were my kid, I would have told him to stop sleeping in class and told the teacher in no uncertain terms that she has no right doing what she did either, her job is to either pass or fail the student or ask that he be removed from her class, but not to do as she did....period..
What kind of an example is she setting? To be intolerant, disruptive and nasty when behavior she can't control is displayed?
When he gets into the working world, will he sue his boss for waking him up while sleeping on the job because the boss didn't rub his feet to wake him up so he could fire him?
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Wolverine;803139 wrote: DANBURY, Conn. - Danbury officials have been notified they are being sued by a student who was awakened in class by a teacher who made a loud noise. Documents filed with the Town Clerk, a prelude to a lawsuit, claim that a sleeping student suffered hearing damage when his teacher woke him up by slamming her hand down on the boy's desk in December.
Attorney Alan Barry says 15-year-old Vinicios Robacher suffered pain and "very severe injuries to his left eardrum" when teacher Melissa Nadeau abruptly slammed the palm of her hand on his desk on Dec. 4.
A city official says the matter has been referred to Danbury's insurance carrier.
If this is true .... I would like to know when it became acceptable for someone to inflict these type injuries on a person. And a fine example this is setting I might add!
Attorney Alan Barry says 15-year-old Vinicios Robacher suffered pain and "very severe injuries to his left eardrum" when teacher Melissa Nadeau abruptly slammed the palm of her hand on his desk on Dec. 4.
A city official says the matter has been referred to Danbury's insurance carrier.
If this is true .... I would like to know when it became acceptable for someone to inflict these type injuries on a person. And a fine example this is setting I might add!
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rjwould;803244 wrote: So lets say the kid is actually sick and is holding a pencil in his hand when he dozes off. The teacher comes along, slams her hand down and the kid sticks the pencil into his eye.....Should he sue?
I won't take your reply seriously...BTW:)
No where did it say the kid was sick. If he is sick he should be at home. I think this is over reaction and the parents and lawyer are probably blowing his "injuries" out of proportion as they always do in theses stupid lawsuits.
I won't take your reply seriously...BTW:)
No where did it say the kid was sick. If he is sick he should be at home. I think this is over reaction and the parents and lawyer are probably blowing his "injuries" out of proportion as they always do in theses stupid lawsuits.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337420,00.html
Since then, though some of his hearing has been restored, the boy has been through extensive medical treatments with ear, nose and throat specialists and could require surgery to fully rectify the damage, according to documents obtained by FOXNews.com.
Since then, though some of his hearing has been restored, the boy has been through extensive medical treatments with ear, nose and throat specialists and could require surgery to fully rectify the damage, according to documents obtained by FOXNews.com.
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ThePheasant;803292 wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337420,00.html
Since then, though some of his hearing has been restored, the boy has been through extensive medical treatments with ear, nose and throat specialists and could require surgery to fully rectify the damage, according to documents obtained by FOXNews.com.
If it is truly this bad then yes the lawsuit is warranted. It surprises me that slapping a desk could cause this much damage, but I suppose it is possible.
Since then, though some of his hearing has been restored, the boy has been through extensive medical treatments with ear, nose and throat specialists and could require surgery to fully rectify the damage, according to documents obtained by FOXNews.com.
If it is truly this bad then yes the lawsuit is warranted. It surprises me that slapping a desk could cause this much damage, but I suppose it is possible.
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rjwould;803291 wrote: Extreme language does not justify your position....Stereotyping lawyers and certain parents will not add substance to the dialog which needs to take place regarding our school system woos...
So, what if he was sick or not and he sticks the pencil into his eye?
Yeah well, so what if the sleeping kid fell out of his desk and broke the teachers leg as the teacher was walking by? In other words, thats not what happened so it is an invalid question.
The teacher should not have done as she did.....
I realize you have a problem with our education system, but lets not take one teachers actions and decide all teachers are bad. Talk about stereotyping.
So, what if he was sick or not and he sticks the pencil into his eye?
Yeah well, so what if the sleeping kid fell out of his desk and broke the teachers leg as the teacher was walking by? In other words, thats not what happened so it is an invalid question.
The teacher should not have done as she did.....
I realize you have a problem with our education system, but lets not take one teachers actions and decide all teachers are bad. Talk about stereotyping.
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rjwould;803344 wrote: When and where did I ever say that? Here is my earlier post..
You're obviously feeling attacked---sorry to have hurt your feelings...
Ha! :wah:
Nope, don't feel attacked at all. I do however recognize the M.O.
You're obviously feeling attacked---sorry to have hurt your feelings...
Ha! :wah:
Nope, don't feel attacked at all. I do however recognize the M.O.
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rjwould;803365 wrote: It's not like you to become personal like this YZGI....I will accept it as it appears. Have a nice day...
Wow, I didn't think I had become personal, I didn't mean to be insulting, if I was I apologize. I just don't have the energy to get that immersed into this right now and it seemed as you were more passionate in your stance than I.
It's cool dude..:-6
Wow, I didn't think I had become personal, I didn't mean to be insulting, if I was I apologize. I just don't have the energy to get that immersed into this right now and it seemed as you were more passionate in your stance than I.
It's cool dude..:-6
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Ironically, the problem I have with public schools is the apparent lack of control that the teachers are able to have over their students.
It's cases like this that really anger me .... because of one teachers error, kids will be screaming teacher abuse at every opportunity.
It's cases like this that really anger me .... because of one teachers error, kids will be screaming teacher abuse at every opportunity.
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rjwould;803457 wrote: It seems to me that the way to get control is through cooperation. Our schools are more like prisons than anything else and the students are the inmates...Let the kids know they have control too and are required to learn how to be fair in that control....The problem is that the American school system is not set up that way, and needs to change, and the mindset of the adults needs to change first....The parents are a product of the same dysfunctional system themselves...
My experience of the schools over here are that they are the complete opposite to this.
My experience of the schools over here are that they are the complete opposite to this.
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rjwould;803492 wrote: How would you describe them? And why were you considering Homeschooling?
Actually RJ thinking about it, your reference to prison is not so far wrong. A neighbouring school district has a full time police officer patrolling the school - why - because the teachers have no control. They are not allowed to use reasonable force if/when required.
A while back my son got into a fight (defending another student), the teacher had to use reasonable force to stop them fighting. My son was complaining to me about a bruise on his arm that the teacher gave him - I said 'you were out of control - so get over it!'
Yesterday the school had a 45 mins. 'lock down' due to a student 'going crazy'. Had the teachers been able to control the situation, the other students and staff would not have been put into a position of having to hide for 45 mins until police had the situation under control.
Yes, I was, and still am, considering home schooling. I do agree that public schools are out of control - I just have different reasons for thinking this than you do :-6
Actually RJ thinking about it, your reference to prison is not so far wrong. A neighbouring school district has a full time police officer patrolling the school - why - because the teachers have no control. They are not allowed to use reasonable force if/when required.
A while back my son got into a fight (defending another student), the teacher had to use reasonable force to stop them fighting. My son was complaining to me about a bruise on his arm that the teacher gave him - I said 'you were out of control - so get over it!'
Yesterday the school had a 45 mins. 'lock down' due to a student 'going crazy'. Had the teachers been able to control the situation, the other students and staff would not have been put into a position of having to hide for 45 mins until police had the situation under control.
Yes, I was, and still am, considering home schooling. I do agree that public schools are out of control - I just have different reasons for thinking this than you do :-6
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The evidence of actual physical damage justifies this case.
The next question is whether or not there was any damage prior to the event. If something wouldn't have harmed a normal person but affected another because of unusual sensitivity then it is an accident not an abuse.
I have a lot of problems with the current school system and, despite knowing and being related to teachers, have a problem with a lot of teachers. I also am dismayed at how many days off the kids get from school now in comparison. I only remember having about three Pro-D days a year. I am also disturbed by the number of people who get into teaching because of the good pay, great hours and summers off instead of because they love children.
The next question is whether or not there was any damage prior to the event. If something wouldn't have harmed a normal person but affected another because of unusual sensitivity then it is an accident not an abuse.
I have a lot of problems with the current school system and, despite knowing and being related to teachers, have a problem with a lot of teachers. I also am dismayed at how many days off the kids get from school now in comparison. I only remember having about three Pro-D days a year. I am also disturbed by the number of people who get into teaching because of the good pay, great hours and summers off instead of because they love children.
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Reminds me of an article I read the other day ...
The author here was named New York City Teacher of the year in 1989, 1990, and 1991, and New York State Teacher of the Year in 1991 (when he quit).
http://www.spinninglobe.net/againstschool.htm
The author here was named New York City Teacher of the year in 1989, 1990, and 1991, and New York State Teacher of the Year in 1991 (when he quit).
http://www.spinninglobe.net/againstschool.htm
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I have no judgment on a child who is sleeping in class. There may be a medical reason the youth is fatigued or there could be a practical reason not related to laziness. The kid might be living in a home where there is constant arguing or, in highschool, may even be required to hold a job to help pay bills.
I'm unsure why anyone would jump to the conclusion that the kid fell asleep because of lack of self discipline.
I'm unsure why anyone would jump to the conclusion that the kid fell asleep because of lack of self discipline.
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rjwould;803633 wrote: You know, there is a difference between the control a loving parent exercises over children and that of a stranger who cannot love your children...Both may be well intentioned but the child can see, although not necessarily identify, the difference.
I was talking about the ability to control a situation - not - controlling a person.
Believe me, I was brought up with a father who didn't think twice about putting me into hospital. I detest violence and the use of it to control. :-6
I was talking about the ability to control a situation - not - controlling a person.
Believe me, I was brought up with a father who didn't think twice about putting me into hospital. I detest violence and the use of it to control. :-6
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There could have been any number of reasons for this child being asleep, or appearing to be asleep, non of which justified such a response.
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rjwould;803774 wrote: When I quote a post, it does not necessarily mean I am arguing with the person or the post as much as I am thinking out loud (virtually speaking of course) and attempting to add to and therefore advance the discourse. I apologize if I come across differently than that....I was schooled in America:)...And we have this unconscious reflexive idea and reaction of adversarial exchange and posturing..
I'm sorry that you were physically disciplined....You didn't deserve that, nobody does..
As for the control issue....Most teachers are informed that the children make or break the deal, so when you control the children, you are controlling the situation..
:wah: No apology necessary, I too was thinking aloud.
A thread titled 'exchange and posturing' sounds like it could get interesting
I'm sorry that you were physically disciplined....You didn't deserve that, nobody does..
As for the control issue....Most teachers are informed that the children make or break the deal, so when you control the children, you are controlling the situation..
:wah: No apology necessary, I too was thinking aloud.
A thread titled 'exchange and posturing' sounds like it could get interesting
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Here are some mixed thoughts from people who 'apparently' knew the teacher and student :-6
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/danbury ... PL5NFNG/p8
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/danbury ... PL5NFNG/p8
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Also, maybe he was just at the point of getting laid in his dream by Madonna at her most eroticly dominatrix, and the allegedly sudden and unnatural assault of his teacher has now ruined for the whole of his life not only the possibility of sexual fulfilment, but the postcoital blow by blow exclusive he was planning to sell to the trash media, thereby assuring his future financial security.
It could be that he is so traumatised he will never sleep again. And, cruelly deprived of peace of mind, his future lovelife - even probably his ability to procreate - his earning capacity and his health - he really has no choice, but to sue.
It could be that he is so traumatised he will never sleep again. And, cruelly deprived of peace of mind, his future lovelife - even probably his ability to procreate - his earning capacity and his health - he really has no choice, but to sue.
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This is a load of crap.
End of discussion.:-6
End of discussion.:-6
I expressly forbid the use of any of my posts anywhere outside of FG (with the exception of the incredibly witty 'get a room already' )posted recently.
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
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rjwould;804075 wrote: They seem highly educated...:wah:
Obviously not home-schooled :p
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Obviously not home-schooled :p
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Wolverine;803139 wrote: DANBURY, Conn. - Danbury officials have been notified they are being sued by a student who was awakened in class by a teacher who made a loud noise. Documents filed with the Town Clerk, a prelude to a lawsuit, claim that a sleeping student suffered hearing damage when his teacher woke him up by slamming her hand down on the boy's desk in December.
Attorney Alan Barry says 15-year-old Vinicios Robacher suffered pain and "very severe injuries to his left eardrum" when teacher Melissa Nadeau abruptly slammed the palm of her hand on his desk on Dec. 4.
A city official says the matter has been referred to Danbury's insurance carrier.
This definitely shows that reporters need to take their responsibility more seriously. The slant they put on their reports have a great influence on the court of public opinion. They ought to be more concerned with the truth than with selling papers.
Gotta get of the high horse now. The air's thin & I'm getting dizzy.
Attorney Alan Barry says 15-year-old Vinicios Robacher suffered pain and "very severe injuries to his left eardrum" when teacher Melissa Nadeau abruptly slammed the palm of her hand on his desk on Dec. 4.
A city official says the matter has been referred to Danbury's insurance carrier.
This definitely shows that reporters need to take their responsibility more seriously. The slant they put on their reports have a great influence on the court of public opinion. They ought to be more concerned with the truth than with selling papers.
Gotta get of the high horse now. The air's thin & I'm getting dizzy.