Being Gay/Bi or Lesbian

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:14 pm

Furry Samaritan;804086 wrote: [...] so no one here is qualified to dismiss ... my current reaction as "inappropriate."

I am.

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:17 am

Furry Samaritan;804086 wrote: These are observations born of many many MANY past experiences EXaCTLY as described above - been through it TOO MANY TIMES for it to be happenstance.

I don't have time or patience for game-playing or emotional tom-foolery. As a result of MANY SEVERE and UNFORGIVABLE offenses, I've had to develop an iron-clad policy of "your first offense against me is also you FINAL offense against me!"

All personal experience - no body here has walked in my shoes even ONE BLOCK, so no one here is qualified to dismiss my experiences as "wrong", or my current reaction as "inappropriate."

To those who have been positive and welcoming - THANK YOU. To those who feel the need to snark - just understand I shut down the minute it happens, and I decline all future communication. There! My policy's right out in front.

I expect I'm already on your ignore list but if not then I think I'd like to be!

You blast in dropping your 'well researched' opinion of a long standing member but don't like it when you're picked up on it, you ignore those who try to correct this opinion whilst still welcoming you.

This place doesn't operate on a 'one strike and you're out' policy. Members have off days, bad things going on or simply strongly held views that occasionally affect the way they post and sometimes we just pizz each other off because of personality clashes. It's rare when that can't be understood or forgiven.

You're attitude is strange, rather juvenile to see things quite so black and white - 'you've annoyed me so I'm never going to speak to you again'.

It amounts to the fingers in the ears going 'nananana' that we indulge in as small children.

Whilst this place isn't real life the people here are a family with the same family niggles as we see offline! But the other side of the coin is love, support, practical help, friendship, companionship, forgiveness and fun.

I hope you find a niche here but with so many people going on your ignore list I doubt you will. What a shame.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:39 am

Furry Samaritan;804086 wrote: These are observations born of many many MANY past experiences EXaCTLY as described above - been through it TOO MANY TIMES for it to be happenstance.

I don't have time or patience for game-playing or emotional tom-foolery. As a result of MANY SEVERE and UNFORGIVABLE offenses, I've had to develop an iron-clad policy of "your first offense against me is also you FINAL offense against me!"

All personal experience - no body here has walked in my shoes even ONE BLOCK, so no one here is qualified to dismiss my experiences as "wrong", or my current reaction as "inappropriate."

To those who have been positive and welcoming - THANK YOU. To those who feel the need to snark - just understand I shut down the minute it happens, and I decline all future communication. There! My policy's right out in front.

It's funny how someone with so many many MANY, TOO MANY TIMES, MANY SEVERE UNFORGIVABLE, ONE BLOCK, THANK YOU, experiences doesn't realise the best way to avoid talking to someone is to not reply to them at all.

You can try to ignore me if you'd like. I'm interested to know if you can.

Do you find that capitalizing certain words makes communication more effective? With all your experience, I'm interested to know if you have any studies that reinforce the shouting format of discussion.

minks · Post by **minks** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:21 am

WOW ML what news, well I have to say if you are happily gay then you are a happy human. Tis all about personal happiness.

My opinions on this topic have changed in a very short time, and I ate crow over it as well. Having lived in the redneck capital of Canada I grew up believing same sex partnerships were wrong. Heck not so long ago (ok in the last 4 years) I think I posted that here. Well didn't I have an eye opener when I got ... told off about my opinion and then told by my co-worker she was gay. I had to learn a lot because as time went on she became my best friend and I love her dearly like the sister I never had. It took a little education and a lot of internal pep talks to make me realize that as a generally accepting person why was I holding out on thinking same sex partnerships were wrong. I have learned that I should never pass judgement until I think first.:-5

(until next time eh)

ML life is what it is, make the best of it and be happy with who you are. You are one fine FG friend.

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:56 am

minks;804491 wrote: WOW ML what news, well I have to say if you are happily gay then you are a happy human. Tis all about personal happiness.

My opinions on this topic have changed in a very short time, and I ate crow over it as well. Having lived in the redneck capital of Canada I grew up believing same sex partnerships were wrong. Heck not so long ago (ok in the last 4 years) I think I posted that here. Well didn't I have an eye opener when I got ... told off about my opinion and then told by my co-worker she was gay. I had to learn a lot because as time went on she became my best friend and I love her dearly like the sister I never had. It took a little education and a lot of internal pep talks to make me realize that as a generally accepting person why was I holding out on thinking same sex partnerships were wrong. I have learned that I should never pass judgement until I think first.:-5

(until next time eh)

ML life is what it is, make the best of it and be happy with who you are. You are one fine FG friend.

Great post Minksey :-6

Good to see you - haven't seen you about lately :-6

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:27 am

The sexual preferences of any member here is really none of my business. But, MusicLover,since you have announced yours, all I have to say is that you be happy in your life, treat your partner with dignity and respect, and practice "safe" sex. I would say this to my adult daughter or son if they told me they were sexually active. I also want you to be treated with dignity and respect.

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:52 pm

along-for-the-ride;804539 wrote: The sexual preferences of any member here is really none of my business. But, MusicLover,since you have announced yours, all I have to say is that you be happy in your life, treat your partner with dignity and respect, and practice "safe" sex. I would say this to my adult daughter or son if they told me they were sexually active. I also want you to be treated with dignity and respect.

Now isn't that beautifully stated :-6

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:27 am

I do not have the energy to present my entire symposium on homosexuality to the misinformed, this morning. However, I can never let a statement like " Everyone is born heterosexual slip by ignored. No, everyone is not born heterosexual, and homosexuality is not a choice. Anyone, who has made the effort to learn by adulthood, knows this full well. Best wishes to you Music Lover. You are courageous, and to thine own self are beginning the journey of being true. Be careful out there though, the world is loaded with zealots, and they are not always so forthcoming. With age we learn not always to wear our hearts on our sleeves.

Furry Samaritan · Post by **Furry Samaritan** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:24 am

weeder;804965 wrote: I do not have the energy to present my entire symposium on homosexuality to the misinformed, this morning. However, I can never let a statement like " Everyone is born heterosexual slip by ignored. No, everyone is not born heterosexual, and homosexuality is not a choice. Anyone, who has made the effort to learn by adulthood, knows this full well. Best wishes to you Music Lover. You are courageous, and to thine own self are beginning the journey of being true. Be careful out there though, the world is loaded with zealots, and they are not always so forthcoming. With age we learn not always to wear our hearts on our sleeves.

"With age we learn not always to wear our hearts on our sleeves..."

Uh Oh...I'm 43, and I STILL haven't learned that yet!:o

Victoria · Post by **Victoria** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:53 am

Good Luck.

I'm glad that you have been able to accept yourself for who and what you are.

Of course you will meet people who will insult you or reject you out of fear or small mindedness but thats their problem not your's.

My eldest son is BI and just as with any child there have been friends he has bought home and I've thought 'please don't let this be 'the one' but that was to do with personality not sexuality.

I think there is too much hate in this world and if two grown people can find love together regardless of sex creed colour or religion then it's a victory for us as human beings.

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:56 am

Victoria;805317 wrote: I think there is too much hate in this world and if two grown people can find love together regardless of sex creed colour or religion then it's a victory for us as human beings.

Victoria

I really like the way you said this :-6

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:34 am

Furry Samaritan;804086 wrote: These are observations born of many many MANY past experiences EXaCTLY as described above - been through it TOO MANY TIMES for it to be happenstance.

I don't have time or patience for game-playing or emotional tom-foolery. As a result of MANY SEVERE and UNFORGIVABLE offenses, I've had to develop an iron-clad policy of "your first offense against me is also you FINAL offense against me!"

All personal experience - no body here has walked in my shoes even ONE BLOCK, so no one here is qualified to dismiss my experiences as "wrong", or my current reaction as "inappropriate."

To those who have been positive and welcoming - THANK YOU. To those who feel the need to snark - just understand I shut down the minute it happens, and I decline all future communication. There! My policy's right out in front.

I am surprised that having suffered so many severe and unforgivable offences you should chose to join a discussion board where opinions are expressed freely and disagreement is considered to be par for the course.

As you say, no one has walked in your shoes and so no-one is qualified to dismiss your experience as wrong or inappropriate - neither do you have the right to dismiss Acc's response as inappropriate.

It was not "snark", it was a valid personal opinion in response to the OP. If ML felt inclined to take it up then that's up to him but I've seen no sign that he was offended in any way.

Tolerance and understanding are positive approaches to life - I would thoroughly recommend them. Dismissing a person because you disagree with the first post of theirs that you see is a totally negative response and does not bode well for the future.

minks · Post by **minks** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:51 am

Bryn Mawr;805404 wrote: I am surprised that having suffered so many severe and unforgivable offences you should chose to join a discussion board where opinions are expressed freely and disagreement is considered to be par for the course.

As you say, no one has walked in your shoes and so no-one is qualified to dismiss your experience as wrong or inappropriate - neither do you have the right to dismiss Acc's response as inappropriate.

It was not "snark", it was a valid personal opinion in response to the OP. If ML felt inclined to take it up then that's up to him but I've seen no sign that he was offended in any way.

Tolerance and understanding are positive approaches to life - I would thoroughly recommend them. Dismissing a person because you disagree with the first post of theirs that you see is a totally negative response and does not bode well for the future.

I would like to see this as the FG Credo

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:08 pm

minks;805454 wrote:

I would like to see this as the FG Credo

Works for me :-6