How Osama Bin Laden Is Fighting Us

illuminati · Post by **illuminati** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:53 am

As he bled and bankrupted the USSR via Afghanistan, so is he doing to the US via "The War on Terror".

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:20 pm

Alone?

illuminati · Post by **illuminati** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:39 pm

capt_buzzard wrote: Alone?

Just as Hitler destroyed most of Europe "alone."

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:49 pm

Yes, just like Hitler was Not alone.

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:12 pm

capt_buzzard wrote: Yes, just like Hitler was Not alone.

It takes a leader to cause angst or euphoria. I understand what Illuminati is saying.

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:38 pm

Too True. History repeats itself once again. :-2

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:05 am

Manic Depression, wasn;t he the 17th. born out of 54? hello, he's on a power trip, his brain is warped from hiding, and he needs another hit to balance, he is enduring his own mental war, he is not dealing well right now, mental people are nut cases, who belong incased, isolated, kept away, hidden, sounds like a loser to me. i believe it is known where he is, he has just not been taken yet, it is coming his capture. bin probably was a hitler fan, he had to follow some-one?

A Karenina · Post by **A Karenina** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:00 pm

Paula wrote: Manic Depression, wasn;t he the 17th. born out of 54? hello, he's on a power trip, his brain is warped from hiding, and he needs another hit to balance, he is enduring his own mental war, he is not dealing well right now, mental people are nut cases, who belong incased, isolated, kept away, hidden, sounds like a loser to me. i believe it is known where he is, he has just not been taken yet, it is coming his capture. bin probably was a hitler fan, he had to follow some-one?You may think he is a nut case. But he's got CIA training, an international coalition of Muslim extremists, and a very specific agenda. In short, he's not stupid nor is he crazy. You may not agree with his views or his methods, but selling him short isn't going to help your cause...in fact, it helps his.

But, now that we have your take on the mentally ill - and it's remarkably similar to Hitler's, btw, what do you propose we do with the handicapped?

Suresh Gupta · Post by **Suresh Gupta** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:34 am

Osama is fighting a different type of war with USA. He staged 9/11 to show his might. Now with regular intervals he is telling Americans what he has in store for them. He is creating fear in every American's mind. He is not in America but he has taken lot of American freedom away from their daily life. He made Americans to vote under fear that he is there watching them and ready to strike at his convenience. Majority of Americans were against Iraq war but voted for Bush, the architect of Iraq war. This is how Osama is fighting America? He has become an unwanted guest in every American household.

Serenity · Post by **Serenity** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:36 am

Suresh Gupta.

Your post holds excellent content. not only well spoken, also highly relatable.

I believe Bush to be working with Bin Laden on this one. Being as it's publicly known information, for starters. & Secondly , Bush and his backing being such business driven types, this looks like an opportunity one can't pass up.

I also believe i share another open, that is likely shared by "Illuminati", but it envolves religion and the topic is rarely on the "welcome" mat, so to speak.

Karenina.

Thank you for exercising with such rebuttal the fact that Osama is not a "crazy man". I believe many an american house hold accepts this profesario. The one question i wish every person to sit back and ask themselves is this : IF Osama's a loony, why would the CIA have enlisted him? Clearly, if the man was deemed a "wild card", such an affiliated, no nonsense organization such as the CIA , would never waste a new york minute on a person of the type.

Sound logical?

Suresh Gupta · Post by **Suresh Gupta** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:27 am

Serenity wrote: Suresh Gupta.

Your post holds excellent content. not only well spoken, also highly relatable.

I believe Bush to be working with Bin Laden on this one. Being as it's publicly known information, for starters. & Secondly , Bush and his backing being such business driven types, this looks like an opportunity one can't pass up.

I also believe i share another open, that is likely shared by "Illuminati", but it envolves religion and the topic is rarely on the "welcome" mat, so to speak.

Karenina.

Thank you for exercising with such rebuttal the fact that Osama is not a "crazy man". I believe many an american house hold accepts this profesario. The one question i wish every person to sit back and ask themselves is this : IF Osama's a loony, why would the CIA have enlisted him? Clearly, if the man was deemed a "wild card", such an affiliated, no nonsense organization such as the CIA , would never waste a new york minute on a person of the type.

Sound logical?

Thanks. Sometimes it happens. One thinks that he is working to oppose someone but in fact he might be supporting the cause of the other person. Bush, rather than trying to project himself as a champion fighter against terrorism, should look at himself and make an honest assessment of merits and demerits of his campaign.

Karenina has cleared many wrong notions about Osama.

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:43 am

It doesn't matter how intelligent Bin is, what he has done to us is MURDER our people, Okay? that's okay? What would Bin do with handicapped people? Oh there is no medical equipment in that country for the crippled? I thought so, i responded as Bin being a mental case in which he is, a spindless loser who hides and is not capable of thinking on a HUMAN level. What do cripples have to do with this, are you handicapped?, and if so, what do you want me to do.

Suresh Gupta · Post by **Suresh Gupta** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:00 am

Paula wrote: It doesn't matter how intelligent Bin is, what he has done to us is MURDER our people, Okay? that's okay? What would Bin do with handicapped people? Oh there is no medical equipment in that country for the crippled? I thought so, i responded as Bin being a mental case in which he is, a spindless loser who hides and is not capable of thinking on a HUMAN level. What do cripples have to do with this, are you handicapped?, and if so, what do you want me to do.

Murder you say. Yes, many innocent people were killed (murdered) on 9/11. But what about those who were killed in Afghanistan and Iraq? Were they not murdered? And Osama is still alive and haunting every person on this earth.

Who am I to tell you what to do? I can only advise myself and that advice is - Don't be a judge over others' views and actions. If you do not like them then try to find out answers why they are behaving in this manner. Is may be my fault some time, some place which I have forgetten?

A Karenina · Post by **A Karenina** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:54 am

Paula wrote: It doesn't matter how intelligent Bin is, what he has done to us is MURDER our people, Okay? that's okay? What would Bin do with handicapped people? Oh there is no medical equipment in that country for the crippled? I thought so, i responded as Bin being a mental case in which he is, a spindless loser who hides and is not capable of thinking on a HUMAN level. What do cripples have to do with this, are you handicapped?, and if so, what do you want me to do.How...reactionary.

It does matter how intelligent he is, unless you think that the intelligence and ability of your enemy doesn't factor into your own tactics?

I didn't ask what bin Laden would do with handicapped people. I asked what YOU would do with handicapped people, since you have such strong views on what should be done with the mentally ill.

It's not really your concern whether I am handicapped or not but I'll answer the question. No. I am fully formed and healthy. No accidents, no tragedy, as far as my body is concerned.

If bin Laden is such a spineless loser incapable of human thought (what is that, anyway?), then why does he concern you so? Your fear of him proves that he has some power over you.

What do I want you to do? I want you to think. Not react, not judge and condemn. Just think.

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:44 pm

I also think the Americans have a thing going with Bin. They miss the Bin Liner jokes too. :-6

illuminati · Post by **illuminati** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:07 pm

Serenity wrote: Suresh Gupta.

I believe Bush to be working with Bin Laden on this one. Being as it's publicly known information, for starters. & Secondly , Bush and his backing being such business driven types, this looks like an opportunity one can't pass up.

I also believe i share another open, that is likely shared by "Illuminati", but it envolves religion and the topic is rarely on the "welcome" mat, so to speak.

This, I don't agree with. No way is Bin Laden involved with Bush.

Karenina.

Thank you for exercising with such rebuttal the fact that Osama is not a "crazy man". I believe many an american house hold accepts this profesario. The one question i wish every person to sit back and ask themselves is this : IF Osama's a loony, why would the CIA have enlisted him? Clearly, if the man was deemed a "wild card", such an affiliated, no nonsense organization such as the CIA , would never waste a new york minute on a person of the type.

Sound logical?

I agree with this. Bin Laden is one smart cookie. In addition, his counseling to the world via his last videotape was from his moral high ground as a teacher and a representative of the Islam Faith.

"Who are we but mortal men to question Allah's designs for us?" (sic)

This is a powerful message to Muslims around the world. It emboldens them.

I agree with some others here on Forumgarden about the Muslims (and the world's) mistaken view that this type of rhetoric scares America. It does not frighten us. All it does is steel our resolve and pisses us off. Nobody I know is quaking in their boots. If the terrorists happen to get lucky and pull off another incident within the U.S. borders, get ready for some real action.

Suresh Gupta · Post by **Suresh Gupta** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:00 am

illuminati wrote: This, I don't agree with. No way is Bin Laden involved with Bush.

I also tend to agree with you.

I agree with this. Bin Laden is one smart cookie. In addition, his counseling to the world via his last videotape was from his moral high ground as a teacher and a representative of the Islam Faith.

"Who are we but mortal men to question Allah's designs for us?" (sic)

This is a powerful message to Muslims around the world. It emboldens them.

I agree with some others here on Forumgarden about the Muslims (and the world's) mistaken view that this type of rhetoric scares America. It does not frighten us. All it does is steel our resolve and pisses us off. Nobody I know is quaking in their boots. If the terrorists happen to get lucky and pull off another incident within the U.S. borders, get ready for some real action.

Bin Laden is misusing Islam to create a halo around him. No sane person will agree that it is Allah who is creating designs for killing innocent people and destroying valuable resources which are being used for all round progress of human beings. No God can wish such murders being carried out in His name.

We Indians have been targetted by terrorists for last many years. We are one on this issue and are always ready to fight them. But an impression has been created by media that an average American is living under fear. It was also rumoured that such fear was created by Bush to win the election. It is very good to know from your message that Americans are not frightened and are ready for some real action against terrorists.

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:49 am

Suresh Gupta wrote: I also tend to agree with you.

Bin Laden is misusing Islam to create a halo around him. No sane person will agree that it is Allah who is creating designs for killing innocent people and destroying valuable resources which are being used for all round progress of human beings. No God can wish such murders being carried out in His name.

We Indians have been targetted by terrorists for last many years. We are one on this issue and are always ready to fight them. But an impression has been created by media that an average American is living under fear. It was also rumoured that such fear was created by Bush to win the election. It is very good to know from your message that Americans are not frightened and are ready for some real action against terrorists.

It's all a shame, isn't it? What Americans wanted from their President is someone who would not "cut and run" like Kerry was planning on doing. Kerry also made it clear to many folks here that he really didn't take terrorism seriously. He didn't take national defense seriously. (We the people had 20 years of Kerry voting records to evaluate.)

So, it's one thing to be afraid, it's another to put yourself on the defensive and prepare. For Bush, the defensive stance and preparation leads to offensive moves against threats. This is what the people want here in the states.

I am confident you understand the situation. India has been having their issues with Pakistan and terrorists for a while now.

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:12 am

Dirty smelly rag head, he needs a bath, that no good guru. ya he's smart, come out and see what happens, then he is weak.