July 28th, 1945

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:31 pm

It was a Saturday and I was in New York City that early morning with a group of scouts from New Jersey.

http://www.evesmag.com/empirestatecrash.htm

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:32 pm

Lon;836430 wrote: It was a Saturday and I was in New York City that early morning with a group of scouts from New Jersey.

http://www.evesmag.com/empirestatecrash.htm

The volume of fuel carried?

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:55 am

So you saw that or at least the aftermath? Tell us more, Lon. What kind of impact did it have on you?

That's a heck of a photo. I have a strong admiration for photographers of years past.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:23 am

The recent post re: 9/11 made me think of this crash. We were near Radio City Music Hall when it happened and could hear all the fire trucks and ambulances. We could barely see the crash itself due to the fog. The three man crew was killed as were 14 others in the building and 26 injured.

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:31 pm

Harrowing photo, Lon.

That was a terrible accident.......................911 was not.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:46 pm

No-one's picked up on the obvious question.

A plane flies into the side of a skyscraper starting a terrible conflagration and the final result is a hole in the side of the building over no more than two floors.

Given the similarity in the cause, why the totally disproportionate result?

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:18 pm

Bryn Mawr;838197 wrote: No-one's picked up on the obvious question.

A plane flies into the side of a skyscraper starting a terrible conflagration and the final result is a hole in the side of the building over no more than two floors.

Given the similarity in the cause, why the totally disproportionate result?

Huge difference--------the B-25 by comparison with the jets that hit the towers is like the difference between a rabbit and a horse, plus Jp4 (jet fuel) burns much hotter than the old aircraft fuel of WW 2.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:32 pm

Lon;838211 wrote: Huge difference--------the B-25 by comparison with the jets that hit the towers is like the difference between a rabbit and a horse, plus Jp4 (jet fuel) burns much hotter than the old aircraft fuel of WW 2.

That was my supposition (far more of it in the first place) but the difference in the damage is massive.

dubs · Post by **dubs** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:44 pm

Great picture.

B-25 Holds 670 US gallons of (probably) 100 octane aviation spirit on internal tanks.

Boeing 767 Holds 23.980 US gallons of jp4

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:59 pm

dubs;838223 wrote: Great picture.

B-25 Holds 670 US gallons of (probably) 100 octane aviation spirit on internal tanks.

Boeing 767 Holds 23.980 US gallons of jp4

Ah - a little different then

How many gallons per mile does that make it? HELP!