has anyone noticed a change in themselves since they joined fg

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:41 am

jimbo;850148 wrote: speaking for myself only here i have noticed that i have much more of an open mind , i used to think my opinions were right basically because i thought they were ,no logic no facts although i dont get into the logic stuff much i really do read the stuff you guys churn out and based on the facts i make my opinion

i have changed my idea's on quite a few issue's just reading the to and throwing of the fg brainiac's

i like it when spot and hoff aka gallybally have a difference ,no nastiness no name calling just different sides of a debate just purely on facts

why cant we all do that ? why do we have to always be right ? none of us can really know everything so whats the big deal

i have never ever had a problem saying sorry when i'm wrong (probably coz i'm in the wrong so much :p) and if someone is not big enough to say sorry when its so obvious they know they are wrong i cant think of any way they could humiliate themselves more

but if you are one of those people that wont admit you are wrong here are a few tips to help you out

http://www.scottberkun.com/essays/40-wh ... bad-ideas/

Its funny, I was just thinking the other day, I've been on this place for a good few years now, and it certainly is a little world of its own that does have a bit of an effect on your thinking, because you will tend to encounter people with very different ideas, some informed and intelligent, some very well articulated, some based on strong emotions, some just kinda mischief making, and some of the more typical things that everyone tends to think. I think its pretty much for certain that any interaction with others on a forum like this will engage people in thinking about their own opinions and why they tend to have them a bit more than would be case otherwise. Interesting post Jimbo me lad.

Half Man, Half Knightrider

kayleneaussie · Post by **kayleneaussie** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:54 am

Well I use to do the ironing every day before I joined FG but now I have two Baskets waiting :-5

kayleneaussie · Post by **kayleneaussie** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:19 am

jimbo;850179 wrote: thats no way to talk about carolly and gill :wah::wah::wah:

ha Ha good one Jimbo...I will drink to that

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:21 am

jimbo;850179 wrote: thats no way to talk about carolly and gill :wah::wah::wah::sneaky:Oi I heard that"!!!!!!!!!:-5:rolleyes:

kayleneaussie · Post by **kayleneaussie** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:22 am

ooooooooooooooo we should of whisphered :driving:

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:22 am

kayleneaussie;850203 wrote: ha Ha good one Jimbo...I will drink to that

Oh you'd drink to if there was a mouse in the house:sneaky:any excuse:rolleyes:

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:17 am

I never change. I hate change. I'm still the same outspoken, obnoxious sob I always was.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:31 am

Excellent post RJ.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:33 am

rjwould;850322 wrote: Indeed!

In the course of exchanging opinions on strong issues, emotions are going to come forefront for many people as most average folks are not expert at accepting and expressing criticism. Is anyone really? Admitting "wrong" is not something we oppose, rather it is something we were taught never to do.

People are going to disagree and personalities are part of the equation. Its my opinion that it is best to permit people to fight through these things and remain a neutral minded participant if one is able to. What is hurtful to this forum and life in general is when others choose to take sides. But its a reflection of our culture. We want to be apart of what we perceive to be the winning side or in a winner's corner. We seem to get self identity satisfaction out of that and a chance to let a friend know how we feel about them in crisis. I also thinks its part of that competitive thing I keep preaching.....not that I'm right, mind you.

Before becoming a father, its how I behaved, and if I don't remain cognizant of my adulthood status, I'm easily drawn back into my old self (behaviors and tendencies), just as easily as anyone else.

Lets be rid of this right/wrong-good/bad-white/black way of communicating and thinking.

Nobody is, or at least should be an authority on what is and is not valid when it comes to opinions. People speak from their education, or lack thereof, and their life experiences. If one cannot read both in expressive written form, then its best to stay away form the issue and the person.

As for moderating, I'm a believer that everything in life should be up front when possible. If a person is a moderator, it should be known in their heading IMO, otherwise they should not moderate. Most moderators here are quiet enough, but for those that aren't (and a moderator has the right to be either), I believe part of their job is to constantly remind that they are acting as such as well as a regular member via their heading.

You certainly have a way with words. Many, many words.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:37 am

shrug. Haven't been here long enough. I do welcome the chance to read other opinions and refine my own ideas accordingly.

Incidentally, be aware of the limitations of logic:

1) It's only as useful as the data it is handling is correct and relevant.

2) In many areas, eg human relationships, it's just not an appropriate tool.

mikeinie · Post by **mikeinie** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:39 am

Yes, for sure. Now instead of time communicating with my wife and kids, I spend it on line with you guys:)¦.. oohhh no!:-1

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:40 am

darn skippy I have! And its a good thing.....Friends on here that I've made are so dear to me, don't know what I'd do without them!:-4

Fuzzy.....you made me laugh with your one word spelled right.....don't they know its all about you??????????????:wah:

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:57 am

fuzzy butt;850433 wrote: You think they would by now Geesh

And who you callin 'skippy' there girl? Dont' you know that's an insult? No really, have you ever seen any ausssies use it . oh **** I've opened the floodgates gates now.

You watch, Carolly will have picked it up in an instant:

It's like calling someone Lassie!:wah:

:rolleyes:;):wah::wah:

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:03 am

fuzzy butt;850433 wrote: You think they would by now Geesh:rolleyes:

And who you callin 'skippy' there girl? Dont' you know that's an insult? No really, have you ever seen any ausssies use it . oh **** I've opened the floodgates gates now.

You watch, Carolly will have picked it up in an instant..:wah:

It's like calling someone Lassie!:wah:

whoops,

:o I didn't know that.....and the kangaroo was cute!...

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:50 am

I've certainly added a few more rules :-

Think before opening mouth

Before you get on your high horse, re-read the post from a different angle - did the poster mean what you read

Be sure of your facts - they'll come back to haunt you if wrong

Before you hit send, re-read the post from a different angle - will the reader take it as intended

Don't post whilst drunk

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:02 am

Bryn Mawr;850658 wrote: I've certainly added a few more rules :-

Think before opening mouth

Before you get on your high horse, re-read the post from a different angle - did the poster mean what you read

Be sure of your facts - they'll come back to haunt you if wrong

Before you hit send, re-read the post from a different angle - will the reader take it as intended

Don't post whilst drunk
Boy, aint that the truth..

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:09 am

YZGI;850674 wrote: Boy, aint that the truth..

Not that I ever do, mind - I just notice it in other poster's missives

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:12 am

Yes, became really good friends with some people here:) and other people who I thought were friends turned out to be not that great.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:21 am

Ive learned an amazing amount of things since joining FG and my opinions on a number of subjects has been, if not changed at least altered.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:33 am

YZGI;850706 wrote: Ive learned an amazing amount of things since joining FG and my opinions on a number of subjects has been, if not changed at least altered.

ʖQue?

Some of mine have been turned on their head whilst others have been confirmed and set in stone.

Long live the Garden and its range of ideas that make you think and justify why you think.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:34 am

Bryn Mawr;850723 wrote: ʖQue?

Some of mine have been turned on their head whilst others have been confirmed and set in stone.

Long live the Garden and its range of ideas that make you think and justify why you think.
It's the justifying part that throws me..:wah:

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:07 am

I have learned that there can be one group of people, of mixed nationality, religion, shape, size, age etc ..... with many different beliefs and understandings, who can get along together. As Bryn said, to re-read posts (others and my own) and don't assume anything. And to show respect and try to understand others views.

I learned that Wisey likes any shaped/sized boobies

and Spot needs spanking

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:10 am

YZGI;850728 wrote: It's the justifying part that throws me..:wah:

If you cannot justify your beliefs to yourself then you're in big trouble

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:12 am

Pheasy;850778 wrote: I have learned that there can be one group of people, of mixed nationality, religion, shape, size, age etc ..... with many different beliefs and understandings, who can get along together. As Bryn said, to re-read posts (others and my own) and don't assume anything. And to show respect and try to understand others views.

I learned that Wisey likes any shaped/sized boobies

and Spot needs spanking

Careful - keep on like that and Frank might come back.

You wouldn't want Spanky Franky to get you - would you :-3

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:32 am

Bryn Mawr;850789 wrote: Careful - keep on like that and Frank might come back.

You wouldn't want Spanky Franky to get you - would you :-3

:-3 Who's Spanky Franky ... I'm a little scared now

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:37 am

Pheasy;850813 wrote: :-3 Who's Spanky Franky ... I'm a little scared now

Ah - you weren't around then? Oh!

Um

Be afraid, be very afraid

If you say his name too loudly, he might come back :wah:

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:53 am

Actually, thinking about it, I've noticed one change in myself since being on this site:

I'm even more perfect.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:01 am

Bryn Mawr;850789 wrote: Careful - keep on like that and Frank might come back.

You wouldn't want Spanky Franky to get you - would you :-3
Oh cripes!! Thats all we need..

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:33 am

I'm even more of a pervert.

If it were possible, I would be.

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:49 pm

I have not changed a bit. I've always been this way.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:10 pm

Ahhhhhh Jim, ya big softie cuddly one:-4

I think that we're very lucky to have found such a lovely place that Chris has created for us in the Forum Garden.

I honestly feel blessed to be a member of the FG and have such a special place in my heart for so many members here in the garden. You have all touched me in so many ways that can't be explained. Even though I probably won't meet many FG people in real life, I will still cherish you in my thoughts and always know that you're here for me if ever I needed your help or a good ear to listen to my moans and complaints and good tidings.

Even though things get a bit quiet or slow at the FG sometimes...so what...it's just good to know that we're a family and that's what families do...they live..they grow..they move on...and they usually come home to visit.

I just love all of you damn it...and that's that:-4

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:12 pm

Clodhopper;850979 wrote: If it were possible, I would be.

Oh ,you silly....you would not....you're too sweet:-6

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:15 pm

Bryn Mawr;850822 wrote: Ah - you weren't around then? Oh!

Um

Be afraid, be very afraid

If you say his name too loudly, he might come back :wah:

I'm sure he's listening right now:wah::wah::wah:

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:10 pm

Kathy Ellen: I was starting to get worried by your absense; then I recalled your last post was from an internet cafe and you must be on holiday. Hope you are having fun. :-4

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:26 pm

I'm shorter ..... I weigh more ........... and my ass is flat now.

Bryn Mawr;850658 wrote: Don't post whilst drunk
:yh_doh

I've changed alot, I'm sure. I think others would notice it more quickly than I would. Quite a lot of my views have been overhauled. I think more deeply now about what I truly believe.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:41 pm

Clodhopper;851348 wrote: Kathy Ellen: I was starting to get worried by your absense; then I recalled your last post was from an internet cafe and you must be on holiday. Hope you are having fun. :-4

Ahhh thanks CH :-6,

That so nice of you to say....I was on holidays in Florida for 10 days enjoying the sun, fun, a good Irish pub and delish Italian restaurant.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:18 pm

fuzzy butt;852202 wrote: So I'll remain mute then.:wah:

Don't you dare! :p

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Thu May 01, 2008 1:16 pm

I seem to eat more pie...........of the humble variety:wah:

Im a lot handier with the spoon too..

I tolerate oldies more which I thank the FOC'ers for:wah:

Redtail · Post by **Redtail** » Fri May 02, 2008 4:51 am

I seem to be talking with a bit of a british accent...........:wah:

chrisb84uk · Post by **chrisb84uk** » Fri May 02, 2008 8:43 am

Well I haven't noticed any difference to me at least in my opinion, since I've been here.

Some people I have noticed the odd little change, but nothing dramatic or anything. :p