how to injure a police officer

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:21 pm

the DJs at this radio station advocated taking a police officer's weapon and radio to effectively harm him/her. i am FUMING! what is wrong with people like this????? http://ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=81905

i have sent the following letter to the newspaper. (sorry for the huge print). i am a sheriff's deputy in florida. the story about the DJs comments on harming police officers is making the rounds, believe me! i have made sure my entire dept. has it. and so does my cousin's miami dept. if you would forward this to the radio station, i would be grateful, those DJs need a lot more than a suspension, and their names are dirt in florida. i am also posting the article on an international message board.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:22 pm

I live in a small town in NM - WE RESPECT our officers. What can I do LC?

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:27 pm

WTF? Don't these people realize that there are actually scumbags out

there who will try this sort of thing?

:-5

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:31 pm

THANK YOU BOTH...i used link in article to write to the newspaper and i emailed my entire dept. to do the same. i asked them to forward to the radio station, i am going to see that they are BLITZED from cops and citizens. those idiots need firing, not a 2 day suspension. some cop is going to get hurt or killed because of them i promise you.

babygirl · Post by **babygirl** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:38 pm

OMG LC i just got the email and that is FU**ED (excuse my language) but it has seriously upset me and if there is anything i can do from here in England you just let me know ok :-4

turbonium · Post by **turbonium** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:05 pm

Not just advocating it, LC - the article says these two a**holes "gave their audience tips on how to disarm and injure police officers."

I'm fuming that these two losers aren't fired immediately for this crap. I think Americans should fire off protests to the station and its parent Clear Channel to take appropriate action immediately, or else a boycott will be started against this staion and other Clear Channel stations. If Clear Channel was in Canada, I would raise a stink to boycott them.

I noticed Clear Channel has had other protests against it for their monoploy on stations in the US and other jerk DJ's doing stupid things, like these ones...

"A Clear Channel DJ (KEGL-FM) in Dallas was involved feeding a rabbit to a snake- on the air. (This station was forced to record a public apology on the air and

publicize animal welfare information on their web site.)

In addition, Clear Channel's Tampa station dj was just charged with felonious animal cruelty for castrating and then butchering an unanesthetized pig in the parking lot of the station. Many consider this a ratings stunt. The animal was screaming in pain."

They have boycotts and petitions aginst Clear Channel for these stupid stunts.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:15 pm

Turbo said...I'm fuming that these two losers aren't fired immediately for this crap. I think Americans should fire off protests to the station and its parent Clear Channel to take appropriate action immediately, or else a boycott will be started against this staion and other Clear Channel stations. If Clear Channel was in Canada, I would raise a stink to boycott them. ...thanks Turbo, but you needn't be American to shoot off a letter to the newspaper, there's a link on the page to do so. i am hoping they get MANY letters of protest from many locations. i have sent this out to every cop i know and every friend i have. thanks!

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:55 pm

lady cop wrote: Turbo said...I'm fuming that these two losers aren't fired immediately for this crap. I think Americans should fire off protests to the station and its parent Clear Channel to take appropriate action immediately, or else a boycott will be started against this staion and other Clear Channel stations. If Clear Channel was in Canada, I would raise a stink to boycott them. ...thanks Turbo, but you needn't be American to shoot off a letter to the newspaper, there's a link on the page to do so. i am hoping they get MANY letters of protest from many locations. i have sent this out to every cop i know and every friend i have. thanks!

I think they'll get theirs. With names like:

"DJ Kaos" and "DJ Silli Asz" it's just a matter of time.

turbonium · Post by **turbonium** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:03 pm

lady cop wrote: Turbo said...I'm fuming that these two losers aren't fired immediately for this crap. I think Americans should fire off protests to the station and its parent Clear Channel to take appropriate action immediately, or else a boycott will be started against this staion and other Clear Channel stations. If Clear Channel was in Canada, I would raise a stink to boycott them. ...thanks Turbo, but you needn't be American to shoot off a letter to the newspaper, there's a link on the page to do so. i am hoping they get MANY letters of protest from many locations. i have sent this out to every cop i know and every friend i have. thanks!
I will LC - I didn't see the link. Thx.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:18 pm

Scrat wrote: Time to do some covert head cracking.i knew i could count on you Scrat and FR! let me tell you, i have already organized two entire police departments, including miami-dade, to write letters, and this has spread exponentially. those scumwads are going down, they will be lucky to get jobs cleaning porta-potties when i am done.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:58 am

Hey LC, did you use the "contact us" button in the article to send your letter? I want to add my 2 cents and want to be sure it goes to the right place. Got any more links, like directly to the radio station? I would LOVE to help blitz these @ssholes.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:11 am

Isnt it some sort of incitement to endanger a police officers life. dont you have any laws covering this sort of thing- if theres not there should be . over here its an offence to feed a live animal to another animal for public fun but even so im surprised they got away with that - im disgusted .

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:25 am

BabyRider wrote: Hey LC, did you use the "contact us" button in the article to send your letter? I want to add my 2 cents and want to be sure it goes to the right place. Got any more links, like directly to the radio station? I would LOVE to help blitz these @ssholes. :mad:yes, i used that link...but i need to get the station's email address. a LOT of people have sent letters to the paper and asked them to forward them. thankyou!

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:28 am

Cool, I'll zip off a scathing note here shortly. Keep me posted on more ways to contact these idiots. A two-day suspension is an insult, and if they get enough negative attention, maybe we can get the dumba$$es fired...and run out of town...and drawn and quartered. :yh_angry

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:36 am

If you click on the "contact us" link you get a page with a ton of e-mails, one of them goes directly to the radio station!

here's my input:

Dear Sirs:

I live all the way out in New Mexico, but the outrageous and unacceptable behavior of your DJs Chaos and Silly Ass has even reached to my ears.

As an educator, I daily fight against the negative influences of violent music, violent movies and violent television. Anyone who thinks that the media has no influence on the minds of our children needs to spend a day in a typical American classroom. You can be sure that during Summer Vacation, there were many impressionable children listening to that show. The damage your DJs have caused cannot be measured.

The despicable comments by your radio DJs concerning the harming of police officers undermines the entire fabric of our society. Their behavior is more than irresponsible, it's aborrhent. They need to realize that the consequences of their behavior could result in the death of a police officer. The best way to make them realize this is to terminate their employment with you immediately.

I'm not asking this...I'm demanding it. To show that I'm serious I'm organizing a group on the internet to pressure your advertisers to drop their ads with you. My forum has close to 1500 members including a police officer. Every one of them is incensed at the detestable behavior of your station and it's staff. We are beginning the e-mail and letter writing campaign today and we will not stop it until we receive word that the DJs have been fired.

The choice is up to you: Hold on to your outrageous staff and face bankruptcy, or terminate them and continue on with a hard lesson learned and a new outlook about civility.

Sincerely,

1Lt. Jonathan St. Ives USAFR

Lead Teacher

The Transition Academy

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:39 am

Here's that direct comments e-mail to the station:

comments@ksdk.com

And here's that "contact us" page!

http://www.ksdk.com/contact/contact_us.aspx

I'm going to send a copy of my letter to every link on that page!:mad:

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:50 am

I just sent off an e-mail, I noticed the station apologized and the DJ's got a 2 day suspension. I wrote and asked that their employment be severed, unless they performed community service with the law officials they were insulting.

We love you law enforcement people!

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:16 am

thankyou wonderful people!!! :yh_flower :yh_star :yh_worshp :yh_hugs ...we spend DAYS and days in academy and inservice on weapon retention, and these scumsucking bastards are telling the public how to get our guns!!

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:21 am

HEY EVERYBODY!

I got the home page of Clear Channel and the e-mail of the director of radio operations and KATZ radio:

Go to this link and e-mail these people!

http://www.katz-media.com/katz/GENERALI ... tacts.html

That other link I posted was just the TV station that carried the story!:o

BTS · Post by **BTS** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:56 pm

[quote=Far Rider]Now hold on there, there's nothing wrong with cleaning pota-potties, its an honest business!quote]

I thought it was honest when I did it for 2 summers. Uncle Sam paid me about $1.35 hr (min. wage) in 1972-73.

I was the head pooper trooper for campgrounds around a lake.

But I guess that is another thread.

About the Krap-pers that encourage violence towards others. I think the only way they will ever understand is thru their pocketbooks. Parents need to step up and disallow their children from buying this krap.

turbonium · Post by **turbonium** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:23 pm

Jives wrote: HEY EVERYBODY!

I got the home page of Clear Channel and the e-mail of the director of radio operations and KATZ radio:

Go to this link and e-mail these people!

http://www.katz-media.com/katz/GENERALI ... tacts.html

That other link I posted was just the TV station that carried the story!:o
Link isn't working Jives.

BTS · Post by **BTS** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:59 pm

turbonium wrote: Link isn't working Jives.

Here try this link........ It has every one in their corpoRAT office employees listed.

Phone #s and e-mails........

Lets ALL send send send!!!

Corporate LINK HERE.

Corporate HQKatz Media Corporation

125 West 55th Street

New York, NY 10019-5366212-424-6000

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:28 pm

WHOO HOO!! Thanks BTS! ....i will be busy here for the next hour.....

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:51 pm

i wrote to the whole lot....i will let you know if anyone responds with anything besides boilerplate and platitudes....i know this much, that newspaper has received a LOT of letters on the topic. and hopefully some of them are routed properly.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:02 pm

A copy of the letter I sent off, to all of them:

I am telling absolutely EVERYONE I know how you advocate violence against cops and give 2-day suspensions to the CRIMINALS who thought it up. What the hell is the matter with you people? Has the entire staff over there fallen and bumped their heads, or were you all born stupid?

I'm making sure my 16-year old son tells every friend he has to boycott, boycott, boycott. We have friends who are cops and to allow this sort of vile, repugnant behavior on your airwaves is criminal at best, and I sincerely hope that the next time you or your DJ's are in need of a cop, the one called has heard this broadcast. Don't hold your breath for help. What an amazing concentration of utter LOSERS. You all make me sick.

P.S. To BTS: Nice find! :yh_clap

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:05 pm

i meant to thank Jives publically for his letter, i did so in an email. .......BR i wish you'd step up to the plate and stop being so wishy-washy!!! THANKYOU!

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:07 pm

lady cop wrote: BR i wish you'd step up to the plate and stop being so wishy-washy!!! THANKYOU!
It's a curse.

Thanks to everyone who found links and sent letters, these bozos need to be taken off the air, period. Nice detective work on everyone's part. Now KEEP BLITZING THEM!!!

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:52 pm

Hey, I'm already getting responses! The first was an auto-reply, so I responded to it. Want a laugh? Here ya go:

Are you "out of the office" because you're one of the morons who thought the "disarm a cop" spiel was a good idea?

I don't think a "limited acces to email" is your biggest problem. A limited access to functioning brain cells quite obviously is, though.

"Kurka, Barbara" wrote:

I will be out of the office on Thursday, 7/21, with limited access to email. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Marshall Cole.

I also got another reply that said "I have no idea who you are or what you're talking about." Yeah, sure.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:56 pm

OMG BR, please don't get yourself put on some FBI nutjob list!!! :yh_rotfl :yh_laugh :yh_bigsmi

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:59 pm

Screw 'em....I'm on a f**king mission, now!! Idiots.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:05 pm

I love it!! Why can't I think of stuff like that? Good one, BR!!

:yh_rotfl

babygirl · Post by **babygirl** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:21 pm

well LC i emailed to you what i wrote i have sent it onto all the contact emails i could find

I was gonna post here what i wrote to them but i cannot find it

so LC if you still have it feel free to post it on my behalf

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:31 pm

i'm sorry Babygirl, all my mail gets deleted by pc gremlins during the night! but that was a great letter! :-4

babygirl · Post by **babygirl** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:21 pm

I found the email i sent to the papers so i thaught i will post it and here it is

I have just found out about this from a friend who is a police officer, i live in the UK and i feel like i have to write in to say that the people who gave out the tips need to be SACKED and punished, it is totally wrong and should never of happened. The police are here to help us and should be treated with RESPECT, i just hope that non of what was said will happen to any of the officers anywhere in the world. I am DISGUSTED, and this needs to be sorted out and fast!!

Regards

Post by **spot** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:56 am

This thread amazed me at the time by its uninformed spleen. Now seems a good time to re-visit it.

The relevant stories to bring the context up to date are at:

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/Issues/2 ... /news.html

and then at

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/Issues/2 ... _full.html

The DJ says his and Sylli Asz's firing had more to do with their ongoing critiques of police departments Ã¢â‚¬ including the on-air reading of Web site message board postings in the aftermath of the Kirkwood shooting, along with frank discussions about officers who might not be on the straight and narrow.

"The guys that got me fired were the FOP people," Kaos says, referring to the Fraternal Order of Police, the officers' professional association whose local and national chapters sent letters to Clear Channel calling for the DJs' ouster. " actually printed the conversation after we were terminated. People went back and said, Ã¢â‚¬ËœThat's what they said? That's what they got fired for?' It had nothing to do with what we said. It had everything to do with us airing the dirty laundry."

So, go back and read the uninformed second-hand drivel on ForumGarden from that month.

"My forum has close to 1500 members including a police officer. Every one of them is incensed at the detestable behavior of your station and it's staff"? Every one? I can see the detestable behavior, but it has nothing to do with the station or its staff.

Let's see if we can have a reasonable post-mortem now that the dust has cleared.

If anyone would like to associate themselves with a letter of apology from ForumGarden to DJ Kaos, I'll be happy to write and send it together with a copy of the feeding frenzy.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:47 am

Well I have to say, I guess this is what comes of reacting before all the

data is in.

I don't know how to avoid something similar happening in future,

though.

My brother was a police officer for many years, and I still shudder to

think of some of the stuff he'd faced in his career...

Post by **spot** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:36 pm

I think the thread, at this point, indicates quite clearly that the two men who lost their jobs had not tried to injure any police at all, nor had they advocated the injuring of police. They were mobbed out of their jobs by a nationally orchestrated concert-party, of which some members of ForumGarden to their shame were willing participants.

It's only people like me, slowly mopping up these hysterical lynchings with facts, that stand a chance of swaying public opinion back upright. I originally typed "jim-crow lynchings" but I'm prepared to back down on the jim-crow bit, though it stinks to high heaven of it from where I stand.

orangesox1 · Post by **orangesox1** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:32 pm

Well all I have to say in true Ozzie form is...

Bloody Hell

:(

Post by **spot** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:38 pm

Bonza comment, that.

May I stand back slightly from the thread for a post, just on the subject of "injuring" a police officer (wherever that euphemism came from, in the title) and ask how many people are killed annually across the USA by law enforcement officers in the course of their duty? Have a quick guess before you press on.

The citizens of the USA have grown up on the most sickening diet of TV murders, and it shows. You are, collectively, and I do mean in this forum, obsessed with who can out-do each other in screaming for the incarceration of the largest number for the longest period, the painful death of as many social misfits as possible, the ambition to personally pull triggers on anyone remotely deserving of death in your own individual eyes. I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t need to name names, ForumGarden is littered with these demonic ramblings Ã¢â‚¬“ and it is AmericaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s demon, this willingness to stand on whoever is lower in order not to be so low oneself. I know no other society that has that feel to it.

So, to my point. How many people are killed annually across the USA by law enforcement officers in the course of their duty? Is it as many as ten thousand? Lower? Three thousand six hundred? The actual figureÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a tenth of that. One a day nationally. An average of one per state every second month. ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s an astoundingly low number when you think of all the macho posturing that TV forces into peopleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heads. There are more people killed by the fictional police on each single channel than in the entire country. ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s also well over ten times the number per head of population compared to the UK, by the way, so donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t let it go to your heads as magnificent. My point is that the difference between reality and fiction is monumental, and itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s so blurred that people end up thinking the fiction is the reality. I contend that thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s where this hang-em-high lynch mentality originates.

So. End of lecture, and back to railroading uppity blacks out of town when they step over the line.

Lennox · Post by **Lennox** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:41 pm

spot wrote: Bonza comment, that.

May I stand back slightly from the thread for a post, just on the subject of "injuring" a police officer (wherever that euphemism came from, in the title) and ask how many people are killed annually across the USA by law enforcement officers in the course of their duty? Have a quick guess before you press on.

The citizens of the USA have grown up on the most sickening diet of TV murders, and it shows. You are, collectively, and I do mean in this forum, obsessed with who can out-do each other in screaming for the incarceration of the largest number for the longest period, the painful death of as many social misfits as possible, the ambition to personally pull triggers on anyone remotely deserving of death in your own individual eyes. I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t need to name names, ForumGarden is littered with these demonic ramblings Ã¢â‚¬“ and it is AmericaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s demon, this willingness to stand on whoever is lower in order not to be so low oneself. I know no other society that has that feel to it.

So, to my point. How many people are killed annually across the USA by law enforcement officers in the course of their duty? Is it as many as ten thousand? Lower? Three thousand six hundred? The actual figureÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a tenth of that. One a day nationally. An average of one per state every second month. ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s an astoundingly low number when you think of all the macho posturing that TV forces into peopleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heads. There are more people killed by the fictional police on each single channel than in the entire country. ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s also well over ten times the number per head of population compared to the UK, by the way, so donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t let it go to your heads as magnificent. My point is that the difference between reality and fiction is monumental, and itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s so blurred that people end up thinking the fiction is the reality. I contend that thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s where this hang-em-high lynch mentality originates.

So. End of lecture, and back to railroading uppity blacks out of town when they step over the line.

America is a society that is completely obsessed with violence and having said frowns on any other society with any inkling of a violent past or present. Children from the greater New Orleans area actually are proud to be from the "murder capital" and some children in Texas are actually bothered by this distinction being placed on their neighbors to the west. Violence is glorified everywhere and on everything. You'd be hard pressed to turn on the news without hearing about some shooting and you'd be at a much larger disadvantage to find a primetime show with now violence. People say that America is violent due to its past but we have more murders than the Germans, French, and English, and they all have pretty violent pasts of their own. I'd be the first to say that art doesn't influence life but in a cycle art imitates life imitates arts imitates life. I'll continue this post later.

koan · Post by **koan** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:17 pm

I see two topics here. (Interesting revival, spot)

1) knee jerk reactions for the sake of rallying to a righteous cause with disregard to the facts of a situation or of the harm that can be done by acting on one sided information (add to that the ability for the same mistake to be repeated endlessly)

and

2)The propensity for violence specifically within the American culture.

On the second point, I can't help but think of George Carlin's rant in "Braindroppings". Since he is an American himself he has a much better sense of the society in question than I, a humble and quivering Canadian, I quote him here.

"They try to blame movies and TV for violence in this country. What a load of s***. Long before there were movies and television, Americans killed millions of Indians, enslaved millions of blacks, slaughtered 700,000 of each other in a family feud, and attained the highest murder rate in history. Don't blame Sylvester Stallone. We brought these horrifying genes with us from Europe, and then we gave them our own special twist. American know-how!

...

I could mention plenty of things that contribute to violence. One is simply the condition of being violent; the predisposition. Everyone knows this is a cranky species. It's especially well known among the other species. And most people can see that the particular strain of critter found in America is especially prone to graceless outbursts, being, as we are, a collection of all the strange and restless castoffs and rolling stones who proved such an ill fit back home. God bless them all, and give them all the guns they want.

Two other things that contribute to violence are religion and government, because they seek to repress and regulate natural impulses like sex and self-gratification. Of course the two of them will always try to scapegoat movies and television. The truth is, no one knows enough or cares enough to stop the real violence, so their answer is to tone down the pretend violence. It's superstition..."

If you liked that rant buy the book. I laughed so hard I cried. Had to stop reading a few times to catch my breath. (end of plug for GC)

As to the first point, it is mob psychology which some people are curiously good at manipulating. I, myself, am not that clever at this type of manipulation so I expect an uphill battle upon expressing this point of view.

Lennox · Post by **Lennox** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:07 am

koan wrote:

"They try to blame movies and TV for violence in this country. What a load of s***. Long before there were movies and television, Americans killed millions of Indians, enslaved millions of blacks, slaughtered 700,000 of each other in a family feud, and attained the highest murder rate in history. Don't blame Sylvester Stallone. We brought these horrifying genes with us from Europe, and then we gave them our own special twist. American know-how!

Two other things that contribute to violence are religion and government, because they seek to repress and regulate natural impulses like sex and self-gratification. Of course the two of them will always try to scapegoat movies and television. The truth is, no one knows enough or cares enough to stop the real violence, so their answer is to tone down the pretend violence. It's superstition..."

My major in college exposed me to research done on the correlation of media and real life. I'd be the first to say only those with weak minds are vulnerable to acts of violence committed on film or on the radio. I grew up listening to rap and watching The Godfather on a regular basis and I'm one of the most passive people I know. America was a violent nation prior to the advent of television and radio so what would be the justification there? What do we blame for the eradication of Native Americans? People blame the media because it's easy and it's obvious, but if you think about it more people have been killed under the guise of religion than anything else. You can't blame religion because then you are "blaming men of God" and you can't blame the government because then you are literally blaming the governing body. The truth is no one really wants violence to stop because it is condoned only when it is in their favor, i.e. execution, "justifiable homicide", war, etc. To get rid of violence one must get rid of violence in all forms, not just those that they find unacceptable or inconvenient.