Your oppinion

Blazen · Post by **Blazen** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:51 am

What are your views on homosexualitys effects on socie

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abbey · Post by **abbey** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:55 am

Blazen wrote: What are your views on homosexualitys effects on socie

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What are yours?

Blazen · Post by **Blazen** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:58 am

my personal oppinion really does not matter right now, because im writing a reasearch paper so i need other oppinions

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:05 am

Blazen wrote: What are your views on homosexualitys effects on socie

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My view, is that society in general has become more accepting of homosexuality as opposed to 25 and 30 years ago. There is, has been, and always will be homophobes, but this will lessen over time as society becomes even more accepting.

cars · Post by **cars** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:15 am

Blazen wrote: What are your views on homosexualitys effects on socie

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Hi Blazen, welcome to FG.

When very young, I used to be prejudiced against everything & everybody, cause that's the way I was raised by my very prejudiced parents. "They" didn't know any better cause that's the way their parrents raised them. As I got older, I started to realize just how very wrong they were to judge a Book by its cover!

Over time I learned that "everyone" is one of "God's Children, not just a select race, religion, creed, or whatever.

A person's choice of "Sexual orientation" is being accepted by more & more of society daily! Societies motto should be: Live & Let Live.

All don't have to live according to the same standards, (define standards) so long as no Laws are broken, and no harm is being done to anyone!

Blazen · Post by **Blazen** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:25 am

Thank you for your oppinions, it i really appreciated... continue to post if you have anything else to add

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:48 am

Blazen wrote: Thank you for your oppinions, it i really appreciated... continue to post if you have anything else to add

I would like to add that to me, it is really rude to come in to the Garden

and right off the bat with no introduction post something like that.

What is the pay scale for helping you with your research paper? If you

knew it was coming up, why not get on somewhere two months ago or

heck even two DAYS ago and post a few times and THEN ask us what

we think?

That's MY "oppinion" (sic) and I'm stickin' to it!

:-5

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:57 pm

i would second Val's opinion

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:31 pm

Cheers to Val & Lady Cop. I'm not even going to reply to this snipe against the Gay Community.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:02 pm

flopstock wrote: also, should tell you ....we let the conservatives into the garden ..late at night...when the neighbors aren't watching....so I'm sure you will be getting differing views.

That not nice :driving:

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:12 pm

valerie wrote: I would like to add that to me, it is really rude to come in to the Garden

and right off the bat with no introduction post something like that.

What is the pay scale for helping you with your research paper? If you

knew it was coming up, why not get on somewhere two months ago or

heck even two DAYS ago and post a few times and THEN ask us what

we think?

That's MY "oppinion" (sic) and I'm stickin' to it!

:-5

Sorry Val, I don't agree and think you are being a bit harsh with Brazen. He might have done well to introduce himself better, but so what. FG isn't some sort of private society with secret hand shakes and passwords. At least he's not spamming.

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:13 pm

Hey Blazen...Here are a couple of tips for your research paper, so you don't get an "F".

1. "Opinons" has only one "P"

2. Homosexuality - You don't take off the "Y" when it is predceded by a consonant, to make it possesive, just add an "apostrophe S" like this:

"Homosexuality's effects."

As for your answer, I used to work as a fighter pilot in the Air Force. Now I'm a teacher. Sometimes the children ask me, "Did you ever know any homosexual pilots?"

I always answer the same way, "I'm sure I did, but I have no idea who they were...you see, that had nothing to do with the mission I was completing. They didn't say, and I didn't ask, because a person's sexual orientation is their own business and none of my own. The only thing that concerned me was whether they did their job correctly."

The more intelligent and educated a person is, the less biased they are to sexual orientation, because you see....

Homophobia is ignorant.

Now... don't be so hard on poor Blazen you guys, I estimate his emotional-maturity age at about 12. ( And I'm seriously hoping he's not any older than that!) He's just trying to get a paper done.:wah:

BTS · Post by **BTS** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:14 pm

flopstock wrote:

also, should tell you ....we let the conservatives into the garden ..late at night...when the neighbors aren't watching....so I'm sure you will be getting differing views.

Hey wisenheimer........ Here is a early (as in before you let us in) consevatives view on homosexuality..........

I have no problem what-so-ever with anyones choices in the bedroom.

I like how you want to paint all consevatives in a broad spectrum as GAY BASHERS........ Well gal you can eat my shorts. (I hope they taste good).

My younger, gay brother is HIV+ and has been for over 20 years and I love the h-ell out of him. I have ALWAYS supported him and always will.

I think this shows your inteligence and predijust to the core.........

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:16 pm

Lon wrote: secret hand shakes and passwords.

yes...yes it is.

(Jives lifts the middle finger of one hand with the other, then waggles the fingers of the hand with the middle finger lifted)

Boooondawannamalacoochie!:wah:

BTS · Post by **BTS** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:19 pm

Jives wrote:

Boooondawannamalacoochie!:wah:

Lake titi-kaka Handshake?

jasmund · Post by **jasmund** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:03 pm

Val-

Thanks I couldnt have said it better myself.

Blazen · Post by **Blazen** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:08 pm

Aight... i didn't mean to come on here all rude or what not.. that was truely not my intentions......... i asked that today becuase my professor had just told us about the paper yesterday,and it is due in three weeks, so to me iam beginning my research right on schedule..... but to introduce my self... my name is Ashleigh but everyone calls me Blaze or the SilvaDollaStud..... I myself am a lesbian, have been for several years..... ummmm im 18 livin' on my own with my girlfiend who is Due in December wit my son... ummm im in college working on my masters degree....im black... im a stud(or butch) wuteva you wanna call me......i think thats it..... but again my appologies, i did not mean an disrespect

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:16 pm

Welcome Blazen

My view on homosexuality is... whatever floats your boat. I have many homosexual friends - given the area I live - and find them to be normal people, just not sharing my sexual arena. I have never felt any of my lesbian friends have tried to "hit" on me as I believe they respect my lifestyle as I respect theirs. I do have a homophobic brother and really wondered for quit some time if he had tendencies given his extreme fear. He isn't.

I'm not sure what kind of questions you need answered - so you need to ask!

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:21 pm

For me its live & let live.

Why on Earth would I consider it any of my business how other people choose to have sex or whom to love.

That would be awfully arrogant and more than a little ludicrous dont ya think.

No offense here just asking ok ?

If your working on your masters degree how are you getting by with that spelling ?

Blazen · Post by **Blazen** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:24 pm

Thatz an easy question to answer.. all my reports and anything that i write has to be typed... just two easy words "SPELL CHECK"

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:32 pm

So its just a laziness thing ?

Im not getting on you it just seems that if your that far along in your studies youd be entrenched in the basics of grammar.

But if your doing a lot of papers maybe its too time consuming.

Im just funny that way I guess.

Blazen · Post by **Blazen** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:37 pm

not really a laziness thing... but i actually can't spell that well... i went to very poor schools.. so spelling was never an issue.... as long as you got it close it was okay... and im not that far in my studies i just started im a freshmen at Irvine... So if my spelling is way off.. my apologies

Blazen · Post by **Blazen** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:42 pm

Now thats what i'm talking about... i real down to earth heart felt answer....

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:43 pm

Don't take it to heart Blazen - there are quite a few people at FG that cannot spell and they never get corrected. You are being picked upon because people are not believing your request. No worries.

Blazen · Post by **Blazen** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:46 pm

Thats fine.. hey I'm new in the garden.... no dust off my shoulder

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:48 pm

You have the fortitude to keep coming back - good for you.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:30 pm

Hi Blazen...welcome to the Garden. Hope you find what you're looking for here. :yh_peace

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:41 pm

Okay, Blazen, I will say that's a little better... you must understand, here

in the garden we sometimes have to be suspicious of people, the burnt

child shun de fire and all that...

But now that you've "given" a little more... it's cool.

I used to work in the film business, and for whatever reason, seemed to

have a pretty high concentrarion of gays. My feeling is, if you care about

someone, and are careful of each others' health, then I have no problem

with it.

I must tell you about a very dear, sweet man, a man I owed a lot to,

who taught me enough to make me command a pretty high income. This

man died of AIDS, and when we had his memorial, it was a beautiful thing

to see. His parents from the Midwest were there, and I remember his dad

exclaiming over and over "I had no idea... I had no idea" because he was

overwhelmed at the showing of love for his son. People told funny stories

about Ron, and there was so much laughter. It was a very beautiful

coming together of a whole wide range of people... the way it really

should be... for us all.

:yh_peace

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:14 pm

Blazen...it's old, but if you can find it, rent the movie "boys in the band" it's a superb chronicle of the early cases of AIDS and the scientists who cracked the medical mystery. it is also a commentary on the early days of gay awareness in san fran. an excellent and accurate movie. Amazon.com: Video: Boys in the Band (1970)

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:38 pm

lady cop wrote: Blazen...it's old, but if you can find it, rent the movie "boys in the band" it's a superb chronicle of the early cases of AIDS and the scientists who cracked the medical mystery. it is also a commentary on the early days of gay awareness in san fran. an excellent and accurate movie. Amazon.com: Video: Boys in the Band (1970)

OOHHH LC you had to bring up AIDS. THat Was Not Nice - appropriate - not nice.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:45 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: OOHHH LC you had to bring up AIDS. THat Was Not Nice - appropriate - not nice.well it was brought up before my post. it's unfortunately an issue in the gay male community. i don't care one iota what people do privately. and key west is one well-known gay bastion, i love the queens. some of my best friends blah blah.....i really wanted to promote the movie, it is full of understanding.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:47 pm

lady cop wrote: well it was brought up before my post. it's unfortunately an issue in the gay male community. i don't care one iota what people do privately. and key west is one well-known gay bastion, i love the queens. some of my best friends blah blah.....i really wanted to promote the movie, it is full of understanding.

I did say appropriate - did I not?

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:50 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: I did say appropriate - did I not?yes you did!

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:57 am

[quote=Scrat]

Why is it not illegal to spread AIDS? I'll tell you why, PC DEMANDS DOUBLETHINK!!

There is nothing wrong with the behaviors that spread AIDS therefore there is nothing wrong WITH THE PEOPLE THAT SPREAD AIDS.

Get it?

When a straight woman meets a bi-sexual guy who was a a barebacking bru-ha-ha the night before why is he not expected by her or society to inform said person about it? So that that person can make a decision about him? there are a growing number of hetero women who are becoming infected by switch hitters.
Scrat, it is illegal to spread Aids, a woman here in the UK was jailed last week for it, and a quick Google shows that you can also be jailed for knowingley spreading Aids in the States.

http://www.childrensaidsfund.org/resour ... 0443.htm#2

BTS · Post by **BTS** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:32 am

flopstock wrote: Actually BTS, I knew that about you. You posted it before. Didn't actually expect to see you on the subject until after the first 'holier then thou' response, however.

Please note 'Mr. Mensa'...I said differing views, not different. Seems to me that the more 'liberal' a person is the more politically correct they come across. Hence the seeming uniformity of the responses thus far...The more conservative folks -on the other hand- generally could care less about PC and appear more willing to express views on both sides of an issue. hence..my expectation of differing views from this group of gardeners.

But don't let that stop your 'assinine' sarcastic snipes. It's what makes you, you.

QUOTE:

"Seems to me that the more 'liberal' a person is the more politically correct they come across."

At least we don't beat around the Bush like you do. We say what we feel.

........... So this is PC eh?

QUOTE:

"also, should tell you ....we let the conservatives into the garden ..late at night...when the neighbors aren't watching....so I'm sure you will be getting differing views."

Thanks for teaching us 'all' about PC'edness flop.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:21 am

we do prosecute and jail down here in the swamp, mostly crack-whores and prostitutes who knowingly transmit the virus. yet in predominantly gay communities like key west, the problem is negligible because everyone is so aware. there are always those who think it can't happen to them however.

BTS · Post by **BTS** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:18 am

flopstock wrote: You are most welcome BTS.. and thanks for making my point. I am the lost liberal person I know amongst my conservative friends and the most conservative person I know amongst my liberal friends. Tends to drive both sides nuts in any argument. The beauty of it, is that I view each issue, on it's merits and have no problem with making jokes about or teasing either side. And I quit worrying about being PC in 1987 I believe..

But you may like to jot down somewhere, that when I put a

at the end of an obviously facetious comment, I am teasing. It's okay to let your shorts unbunch..

Well put........flopstock

Oh....And you're welcome.

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:19 am

i just love scrat's hypocrisy. he wants the government to make illegal those behaviors that may cost the taxpayers down the road. i just love it.

here's what i demand: i want the government to jail any person whose BMI (body mass index) is too high. anyone who is fat is definitely going to incur health problems, and those health problems will be paid - if not by the government then by all of those who share the bills via their health insurance (and if the dems have their way, then it will *definitely* be tax dollars that pay for it). i want smokers jailed. when a woman gets beat up by her "boyfriend", i want *HER* jailed too - she's responsible for getting into the abusive relationship, so she is responsible for the medical expenses she incurred. i think any frivolous activity that winds up in anything costing the taxpayers shoudl be grounds for imprisonment. i'd say, if someone gets in a car accident on the way to work - no problem. if they get in a car accident on their way to the beach - frivolous! why should the taxpayers foot the bill for the ambulance and firefighters and cops who showed up to help the twit who was on the way to the friggin beach!? how about this - if someone takes a misstep going down their stairs to attend to the baby that was crying - no problem, we all foot the bill for her hospitalization. if that person took a misstep going down the stairs to get another slice of pecan pie (obesity!) then lock 'em up.

i want the government getting involved in every intimate detail of everyone's life - if they did so, it could cut WAY down on our taxes, by forcing irresponsible gay overweight clumsy frivolous smokers from forcing us to foot the bill for their stupid mistakes. all it takes is the political will to let the government become our adopted jewish mother.

amen, pass the jack daniels, katy bar the door, good night gracie, keep your powder dry, don't take any wooden nickles, and call now - operators are standing by.