It's one of ours. http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/robinhood/ba ... ndex.shtml
Most of this version of Robin Hood derives from Sir Walter Scott's novel Ivanhoe written in 1809. The editorial change the writers for this BBC production's used is that Sir Walter Scott's foreigners in England were a family of Jews and this dramatisation's used Scott's backdrop of Richard Lionheart's crusade against the Saracens to make the foreign element Muslim instead. It's all a matter if ringing the changes on a set of plot elements. I'll bet you that the storyline's not much contradictory to what Scott gave though, nobody in the BBC is going to tinker with a 200 year old fictional tradition. We don't do that. As for the tradition itself - "Although the general political events depicted in the novel are relatively accurate – it tells of the period just after King Richard's imprisonment in Austria following the Crusade, and of his return to England – the story is heavily fictionalised".
Errol Flynn was far less close to the Scott version. Errol Flynn's Robin was a swash-buckler from Hollywood. Errol Flynn's Robin hadn't a brain cell in his entire constitution and he was invincible like all US heroes. The story of Robin Hood doesn't end happily, whatever Hollywood said.
I honestly don't know what "the muslum of the legend" means, but you're back to deliberately insulting Islam by mis-spelling Muslim. It's cheap.
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Jester;933682 wrote: The MUSLUM (cheap shot poo-poo'd, thats absurd, its how I spell it, mistake or not thats what ya get if ya dont like it dont read my posts) was a sword wheeling hulk of a man.
At least capitalize it as a proper noun then! Your offence is more against good English grammar than civil harmony.
You don't think Sir Walter Scott's Robin Hood pre-dates yours and has a right of priority?
At least capitalize it as a proper noun then! Your offence is more against good English grammar than civil harmony.
You don't think Sir Walter Scott's Robin Hood pre-dates yours and has a right of priority?
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Jester;933697 wrote: Sure... did SWS, have women fighters and weak minded men who sat around psychoanalyzing wether they did right or wrong and how it affects them or did they just fight the fight like the real men of the day???Sir Walter Scott had a women fighter and weak minded men who sat around psychoanalyzing whether they did right or wrong and how it affects them, just like the real men of the day. You could always read Ivanhoe and find the passages where those things happen. I could tell you tales of the real men of the day too, if you like, where they were far more ambivalent to killing than you imply.
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Jester;933716 wrote: My God, well, I suppose Ivanhoe/Robin hood will have to come off my list of real heros.
The only real heroes are American.
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I understand Robin Hood now wiles his time away as a Wal Mart greeter and makes extra cash during the holiday season playing Santa.
I AM AWESOME MAN
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Jester;933682 wrote: To me Robin Hood was an intense character who had an incredible sense of right and wrong and fought accordingly... not a weak minded lilly livered only wound him PC type and that is what Im refering too... the Little John I know would never be ashamed of running from his families aide, because he wouldnt have ever done it.
The MUSLUM (cheap shot poo-poo'd, thats absurd, its how I spell it, mistake or not thats what ya get if ya dont like it dont read my posts) was a sword wheeling hulk of a man.
Sorry but this robin hood is a modern variant of the typical PC crap that weakens our young men to, dare I say it metro-males...
MUSLUM-MUSLUM-MUSLUM...
Since the I and the U are side by side on the keyboard I assumed it was just a tupping error.
Reality is always more bizarre the fiction anyway. Richard the lionheart was a homosexual psychopath that abandoned his responsibilities as ruler to go off slaughtering muslims just for the fun of it and bankrupting the country in the process. The villain his brother john was arguably a better king.
Ivanhoe-the eponymous hero of walter scotts book was a saxon collaborator with his norman conquerors on order to try and keep his family lands. Jewish bankers were helping finance the napoleonic wars (remember when ivanhoe was written) just as they helped finance the crusades although that wasn't actually all voluntary.
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This whole bit of Robin Hood not being able to shoot and/or kill is a disconnect to me. Kinda like hearing that Pierce Brosnan (James Bond) was going to be in the movie version of Mamma Mia. Something just doesn't quite fit for me.
James Bond is a fictional character, although based i=on people the author knew ) Pierce Brosnan was the actor that played him for a while he wasn't really James Bond any more than Sean Connery who incidentally also appeared in a musical. (darby O'gill and the little people)
maybe you would prefer the crappy fifties american version with richard greene:D
sing along now children:yh_rotfl
The MUSLUM (cheap shot poo-poo'd, thats absurd, its how I spell it, mistake or not thats what ya get if ya dont like it dont read my posts) was a sword wheeling hulk of a man.
Sorry but this robin hood is a modern variant of the typical PC crap that weakens our young men to, dare I say it metro-males...
MUSLUM-MUSLUM-MUSLUM...
Since the I and the U are side by side on the keyboard I assumed it was just a tupping error.
Reality is always more bizarre the fiction anyway. Richard the lionheart was a homosexual psychopath that abandoned his responsibilities as ruler to go off slaughtering muslims just for the fun of it and bankrupting the country in the process. The villain his brother john was arguably a better king.
Ivanhoe-the eponymous hero of walter scotts book was a saxon collaborator with his norman conquerors on order to try and keep his family lands. Jewish bankers were helping finance the napoleonic wars (remember when ivanhoe was written) just as they helped finance the crusades although that wasn't actually all voluntary.
posted by Jab
This whole bit of Robin Hood not being able to shoot and/or kill is a disconnect to me. Kinda like hearing that Pierce Brosnan (James Bond) was going to be in the movie version of Mamma Mia. Something just doesn't quite fit for me.
James Bond is a fictional character, although based i=on people the author knew ) Pierce Brosnan was the actor that played him for a while he wasn't really James Bond any more than Sean Connery who incidentally also appeared in a musical. (darby O'gill and the little people)
maybe you would prefer the crappy fifties american version with richard greene:D
sing along now children:yh_rotfl
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The Richard Greene version wasn't American!
That was Dick James singing the title song, he did it very nicely.
That was Dick James singing the title song, he did it very nicely.
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spot;934144 wrote: The Richard Greene version wasn't American!
That was Dick James singing the title song, he did it very nicely.
I stand corrected. We get so many crappy american children's programmes or UK ones are made with the american market in mind it gets hard to tell the difference.
That was Dick James singing the title song, he did it very nicely.
I stand corrected. We get so many crappy american children's programmes or UK ones are made with the american market in mind it gets hard to tell the difference.
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Jester;933946 wrote:
We're being led down a passive road... the intent is to make us all lulled into sleep while they take whats left of mans masculinity and wuss it out... all men will soon be ball-less... nonads...
HEY !
Easy cowboy. :rolleyes:
We're being led down a passive road... the intent is to make us all lulled into sleep while they take whats left of mans masculinity and wuss it out... all men will soon be ball-less... nonads...
HEY !
Easy cowboy. :rolleyes:
I AM AWESOME MAN
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Nomad;934151 wrote: HEY !
Easy cowboy. :rolleyes:
relax I tghink it's another tipping error.
Easy cowboy. :rolleyes:
relax I tghink it's another tipping error.
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Jester;934345 wrote: Thats the politically correct view these days... the crusades apparently are the reason jihad and the hatred for the west, especially americans exists or so the PC crowd would wish you to believe...Where does that come from? I've never seen anyone suggest it before. I think you made it up.
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Jester;934696 wrote: Ive seen several discussions here in fg where folks have come to the same conclusion... mostly taking the side of the 'we (meaning the US) deserve it' kind of mentality.
So touching on the crusades then, do you agree the crusades were justified?
"the crusades apparently are the reason jihad and the hatred for the west, especially americans exists or so the PC crowd would wish you to believe..."? I've never seen that on FG or anything like it. I've most certainly never seen anyone on FG "taking the side of the 'we (meaning the US) deserve it'". A regular FG member, as opposed to a passing troll? Never, not once, not on a thread I've opened.
The Crusades ran for four hundred years, on and off. Some - the later ones - were defensive and decided the effective border after the fall of Constantinople, I doubt whether there was any alternative way of achieving that back then. The first was an outrageous propaganda piece for the supremacy of Rome in Europe, paid for by promises that all who died fighting were guaranteed the remission of their sins and entry to Heaven. No virgins though, the Pope wasn't into handing out virgins in heaven. So, do I approve of the crusades? Pick your crusade first, they were different events with different motives. The famous ones were wars of aggression on the part of the European wealthy elites.
Why would any Muslim hate America for the Crusades? The last of them finished 300 years before America was founded. I just don't see your point at all or any factual basis for the picture you're trying to paint.
So touching on the crusades then, do you agree the crusades were justified?
"the crusades apparently are the reason jihad and the hatred for the west, especially americans exists or so the PC crowd would wish you to believe..."? I've never seen that on FG or anything like it. I've most certainly never seen anyone on FG "taking the side of the 'we (meaning the US) deserve it'". A regular FG member, as opposed to a passing troll? Never, not once, not on a thread I've opened.
The Crusades ran for four hundred years, on and off. Some - the later ones - were defensive and decided the effective border after the fall of Constantinople, I doubt whether there was any alternative way of achieving that back then. The first was an outrageous propaganda piece for the supremacy of Rome in Europe, paid for by promises that all who died fighting were guaranteed the remission of their sins and entry to Heaven. No virgins though, the Pope wasn't into handing out virgins in heaven. So, do I approve of the crusades? Pick your crusade first, they were different events with different motives. The famous ones were wars of aggression on the part of the European wealthy elites.
Why would any Muslim hate America for the Crusades? The last of them finished 300 years before America was founded. I just don't see your point at all or any factual basis for the picture you're trying to paint.
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Jester;934345 wrote: I remembered Darby O Gill and liked it as a kid but heck I did not recall Sean Connery in it!
Amazing!
But lets get back to the point if you'll comment...
Robin hood has traditionally been an honorable character that fought and killed his enemies (common enemies of the people) but in this latest show he admits to not being able to because he has 'issues' form the crusades...
Thats the politically correct view these days... the crusades apparently are the reason jihad and the hatred for the west, especially americans exists or so the PC crowd would wish you to believe...
To have a muslum woman fighter on thier side and even in love with will scarlet and using a muslum cultural cerimony to have the men 'be honest' is so chuck full of political correctness its not even funny.
It's actually very insulting to me.
The PC message we must swallow to enjoy the show:
1. Crusades were an evil agasint the muslums and its our fault they hate us so much, we need to be sympathetic to them and understand them.
2. Women are equal to men in everyway including the strength and stamina to wield a heavy sword in hand to hand battle agasint other men twice thier size and strength and live even dominate and be known as a firece fighter... yet they can love wholeheartedly at the same time... (and dont get me started on Mirain)
3. Muslums can live amongst us, and even who us thier ways and how honest and trustowrthy they are.
4. Big men who can fight are really emotional babies and cowards underneath.
... the list goes on and on...
The show is foolish.
Don't watch it if it annoys you.
I dare say in the states Robin Hood would nowadays be portrayed as a dangerous radical re-distributing the wealth by robbing the rich to help the poor and disrupting the natural free flow of commerce. An allegory promoting a socialist agenda.
Actually Richard's mum took part in the second crusade commanding troops from her own duchy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine
We've had a few warrior queens that scared the **** out of their enemies even if they were cute.
Besides any nation that can have as heroes people in blue bodysuits with their underpants on the outside or that go around dressed as bats or spiders is in no position to start throwing stones at our cultural icons. What kind of hero is that? I'm in trouble but hey I've got a super power to get me out of it meanwhile there is all the angst of the lovesick alien, the mentally disturbed rich guy or the spotty teenager coping with all the tribulations of everyday life as well as being a superbeing. Pleeease .
I've always thought superman and spiderman had to be gay to wear those bodysuits-or at least a bit narcissistic and as for batman in a rubber suit:eek:
Have a read of the history of the crusades. I think you will be surprised and fascinated- especially if you like military history. The mongols are in there as well incidentally-It was them that broke the back of muslim military power not the christians though we like to take the credit.
Amazing!
But lets get back to the point if you'll comment...
Robin hood has traditionally been an honorable character that fought and killed his enemies (common enemies of the people) but in this latest show he admits to not being able to because he has 'issues' form the crusades...
Thats the politically correct view these days... the crusades apparently are the reason jihad and the hatred for the west, especially americans exists or so the PC crowd would wish you to believe...
To have a muslum woman fighter on thier side and even in love with will scarlet and using a muslum cultural cerimony to have the men 'be honest' is so chuck full of political correctness its not even funny.
It's actually very insulting to me.
The PC message we must swallow to enjoy the show:
1. Crusades were an evil agasint the muslums and its our fault they hate us so much, we need to be sympathetic to them and understand them.
2. Women are equal to men in everyway including the strength and stamina to wield a heavy sword in hand to hand battle agasint other men twice thier size and strength and live even dominate and be known as a firece fighter... yet they can love wholeheartedly at the same time... (and dont get me started on Mirain)
3. Muslums can live amongst us, and even who us thier ways and how honest and trustowrthy they are.
4. Big men who can fight are really emotional babies and cowards underneath.
... the list goes on and on...
The show is foolish.
Don't watch it if it annoys you.
I dare say in the states Robin Hood would nowadays be portrayed as a dangerous radical re-distributing the wealth by robbing the rich to help the poor and disrupting the natural free flow of commerce. An allegory promoting a socialist agenda.
Actually Richard's mum took part in the second crusade commanding troops from her own duchy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine
We've had a few warrior queens that scared the **** out of their enemies even if they were cute.
Besides any nation that can have as heroes people in blue bodysuits with their underpants on the outside or that go around dressed as bats or spiders is in no position to start throwing stones at our cultural icons. What kind of hero is that? I'm in trouble but hey I've got a super power to get me out of it meanwhile there is all the angst of the lovesick alien, the mentally disturbed rich guy or the spotty teenager coping with all the tribulations of everyday life as well as being a superbeing. Pleeease .
I've always thought superman and spiderman had to be gay to wear those bodysuits-or at least a bit narcissistic and as for batman in a rubber suit:eek: Have a read of the history of the crusades. I think you will be surprised and fascinated- especially if you like military history. The mongols are in there as well incidentally-It was them that broke the back of muslim military power not the christians though we like to take the credit.
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Jester;934793 wrote: I dont know what shocks me more calling super man gay (which I happen to agree with (but leave spiderman alone he's at least somewhat fightable making it interesting) or you aligning yourself as a christian with the above bolded statement!:D
For the record I have never found any of the american comic book heros serious heros, just imaginitve childs play.
But Robin hood was one I held up high, maybe more wishful thinking than anything else...
At any rate, this version isnt worth watching, just too PC for me, thought I'd mention it as an interesting point. But now that you mention it the 'robbing of the rich and redistributing it to the poor' is fairly liberal socialistic and right up the likes of Barack Osama... excellent point.
:yh_rotfl OK I was using christian as a generic term as i would the west or the allies. I was brought up in the free church of scotland but saw the light at an early age. I find many are completely ignorant of their own history never mind anyone else's . I can by no means claim great knowledge but I find it endlessly fascinating. Perceptions shift radically with even a cursory look at what actually happened. It's never as portrayed in films and It's surprising how much events from so long ago still affect the way we live and view things.
Robin hood is an imaginary hero of a type one common throughout western culture (chinese and japanese as well) of the warrior standing up to injustice-taking on the "man"-defending those who can't defend themselves. If standing up to those who would exploit others and enrich themselves in the process is a socialism then america is in deep trouble. Just think of all those westerns about lone gunmen standing up to cattle barons and defending the poor settlers whose ranches they want to take away. Maybe you think you've been watching socialist propaganda all this time anyway.
Think, for instance, of shane -a former gunslinger reluctant to kill again but does so defending the poor against the rich landowner who after all just wanted to preserve what they had made for themselves from the worthless settlers who had nothing but thought they had a right to a share of the good life even if it meant taking from the rich to get it.
So you think superman is gay? What about Batman? Adam West was definitely playing it very camp was he not?
For the record I have never found any of the american comic book heros serious heros, just imaginitve childs play.
But Robin hood was one I held up high, maybe more wishful thinking than anything else...
At any rate, this version isnt worth watching, just too PC for me, thought I'd mention it as an interesting point. But now that you mention it the 'robbing of the rich and redistributing it to the poor' is fairly liberal socialistic and right up the likes of Barack Osama... excellent point.
:yh_rotfl OK I was using christian as a generic term as i would the west or the allies. I was brought up in the free church of scotland but saw the light at an early age. I find many are completely ignorant of their own history never mind anyone else's . I can by no means claim great knowledge but I find it endlessly fascinating. Perceptions shift radically with even a cursory look at what actually happened. It's never as portrayed in films and It's surprising how much events from so long ago still affect the way we live and view things.
Robin hood is an imaginary hero of a type one common throughout western culture (chinese and japanese as well) of the warrior standing up to injustice-taking on the "man"-defending those who can't defend themselves. If standing up to those who would exploit others and enrich themselves in the process is a socialism then america is in deep trouble. Just think of all those westerns about lone gunmen standing up to cattle barons and defending the poor settlers whose ranches they want to take away. Maybe you think you've been watching socialist propaganda all this time anyway.
Think, for instance, of shane -a former gunslinger reluctant to kill again but does so defending the poor against the rich landowner who after all just wanted to preserve what they had made for themselves from the worthless settlers who had nothing but thought they had a right to a share of the good life even if it meant taking from the rich to get it.
So you think superman is gay? What about Batman? Adam West was definitely playing it very camp was he not?
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*Immy sticks her head around the door to say 'I watch the new Robin Hood for the chap who plays Guy of Gisbourne (swoon) not the storylines and I saw Mamma Mia last night and 007 is hilarious in it - surely even he can take the rise out of himself'*
Immy has left the building............
Immy has left the building............
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She is one fit bitch innit, that Immy
Don't worry; it only seems kinky the first time
She is one fit bitch innit, that Immy
Don't worry; it only seems kinky the first time
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Who could imagine Jim Bowie just trying to nick the enemy with his Bowie knife, Davey Crockett aiming for the shoulder or Daniel Boone and Mingo throwing their hatchet's at the knees? I don't think so..:rolleyes:
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Colonels Bowie and Crockett were both engaged in a criminal insurrection outside of the USA at the time, I think that ought to be mentioned. I'm not sure any branch of the US Government's ever adequately apologized to Mexico for their behaviour.
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It gets worse you know
Robin Hood and the wrong sort of leaves
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 80311.html
Nottingham was billed as a revisionary retelling of the Robin Hood story through the eyes of the Sheriff of Nottingham, played sympathetically by Crowe, who would emerge as its eventual hero. Miller was to play Maid Marian, while the Batman star Christian Bale was considered as another confused vigilante: a somewhat un-heroic Robin Hood.
Explaining the plot, Scott said: "Richard the Lionheart is on his return from the Crusades when he takes an arrow in his neck and dies. His brother, John, becomes king. He is actually pretty smart, but he gets a bad rap because he introduces taxation. So he's the bad guy in this."
It's bad enough when american directors do it but Ridley Scott is English. Robin Hood is fictional Richard the lionheart is not. Trouble is when you change actual historical events many people end up thinking what is portrayed is actually what happened and what actually happened is more bizzarre than any hollywood scriptwriter can imagine. Wonder if they'll make Richard gay and if they will play down his more homicidal tendencies for his more feminine side? Give the holy rollers an excuse to complain about history being rewritten to promote the gay agenda even if that was actually the truth.
King John was allegedly ready to convert to the nation to islam now how about that for a good story line?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 378885.ece
Load of rubbish I suspect. I can just imagine where they would have stuck the Magna carta, even john wouldn't be that stupid.
Robin Hood and the wrong sort of leaves
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 80311.html
Nottingham was billed as a revisionary retelling of the Robin Hood story through the eyes of the Sheriff of Nottingham, played sympathetically by Crowe, who would emerge as its eventual hero. Miller was to play Maid Marian, while the Batman star Christian Bale was considered as another confused vigilante: a somewhat un-heroic Robin Hood.
Explaining the plot, Scott said: "Richard the Lionheart is on his return from the Crusades when he takes an arrow in his neck and dies. His brother, John, becomes king. He is actually pretty smart, but he gets a bad rap because he introduces taxation. So he's the bad guy in this."
It's bad enough when american directors do it but Ridley Scott is English. Robin Hood is fictional Richard the lionheart is not. Trouble is when you change actual historical events many people end up thinking what is portrayed is actually what happened and what actually happened is more bizzarre than any hollywood scriptwriter can imagine. Wonder if they'll make Richard gay and if they will play down his more homicidal tendencies for his more feminine side? Give the holy rollers an excuse to complain about history being rewritten to promote the gay agenda even if that was actually the truth.
King John was allegedly ready to convert to the nation to islam now how about that for a good story line?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 378885.ece
Load of rubbish I suspect. I can just imagine where they would have stuck the Magna carta, even john wouldn't be that stupid.
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I'm pleased you posted that, I missed it at the time. Neat tale.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
The changing of a legend... or PC running amuck?
Jester;935891 wrote: I got my knife, right in my pocket... carry it everywhere I go. Jim Bowie was a real hero!
I'm sure you realize you'd be jailed in England if you were found carrying it in public here.
I'm sure you realize you'd be jailed in England if you were found carrying it in public here.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left. ... Hold no regard for unsupported opinion.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
The changing of a legend... or PC running amuck?
Jester;935940 wrote: Eventually yes, but I'd take a whole heck of a lot of you down while you tried.
We tend to carry quarterstaffs unless we're Irish - the Irish are forbidden them. They have the Shillelagh instead.
We tend to carry quarterstaffs unless we're Irish - the Irish are forbidden them. They have the Shillelagh instead.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left. ... Hold no regard for unsupported opinion.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
The changing of a legend... or PC running amuck?
spot;935905 wrote: I'm sure you realize you'd be jailed in England if you were found carrying it in public here.
Actually no. I think they would make allowances for him being a funny foreigner and explain things to him politely. Hopefully he wouldn't have got through airport security carrying it.
Actually no. I think they would make allowances for him being a funny foreigner and explain things to him politely. Hopefully he wouldn't have got through airport security carrying it.
The changing of a legend... or PC running amuck?
gmc;936336 wrote: Actually no. I think they would make allowances for him being a funny foreigner and explain things to him politely. Hopefully he wouldn't have got through airport security carrying it.
Have you seen what they use over there?The centerpiece of my Bowie collection is a stag-handled wonder from the Katz Alamo Bowie line. Marketed toward the Cowboy Action Shooters, the knife has found equal favor with well-heeled hands who appreciate the excellent materials and workmanship. No mere belt-hanger ornament, the 10" blade of 440C+ steel, at 58-59 Rockwell C takes and holds a razor-like edge that divides flesh like Moses parting the Red Sea. It has that synergy born of superior material, handling dynamic and form, defining the essential Bowie Knife better than all the argument and analysis that have gone before.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... tBody;col1
Now, you tell me, what suicidally-inclined officer of the law is going to invite a tourist to part with one of those?
Sheffield cutlers used to make them for the US market. During the Civil War half those export models were engraved "Death to Abolitionists" and the other half "Death to Rebels" to increase sales.
Have you seen what they use over there?The centerpiece of my Bowie collection is a stag-handled wonder from the Katz Alamo Bowie line. Marketed toward the Cowboy Action Shooters, the knife has found equal favor with well-heeled hands who appreciate the excellent materials and workmanship. No mere belt-hanger ornament, the 10" blade of 440C+ steel, at 58-59 Rockwell C takes and holds a razor-like edge that divides flesh like Moses parting the Red Sea. It has that synergy born of superior material, handling dynamic and form, defining the essential Bowie Knife better than all the argument and analysis that have gone before.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... tBody;col1
Now, you tell me, what suicidally-inclined officer of the law is going to invite a tourist to part with one of those?
Sheffield cutlers used to make them for the US market. During the Civil War half those export models were engraved "Death to Abolitionists" and the other half "Death to Rebels" to increase sales.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left. ... Hold no regard for unsupported opinion.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
The changing of a legend... or PC running amuck?
spot;936347 wrote: Have you seen what they use over there?The centerpiece of my Bowie collection is a stag-handled wonder from the Katz Alamo Bowie line. Marketed toward the Cowboy Action Shooters, the knife has found equal favor with well-heeled hands who appreciate the excellent materials and workmanship. No mere belt-hanger ornament, the 10" blade of 440C+ steel, at 58-59 Rockwell C takes and holds a razor-like edge that divides flesh like Moses parting the Red Sea. It has that synergy born of superior material, handling dynamic and form, defining the essential Bowie Knife better than all the argument and analysis that have gone before.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... tBody;col1
Now, you tell me, what suicidally-inclined officer of the law is going to invite a tourist to part with one of those?
Sheffield cutlers used to make them for the US market. During the Civil War half those export models were engraved "Death to Abolitionists" and the other half "Death to Rebels" to increase sales.
Typical yank accoutrement, flashy and form over function and designed for posers - much better with this
http://www.888knivesrus.com/category/.a ... s.sfstory/
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... tBody;col1
Now, you tell me, what suicidally-inclined officer of the law is going to invite a tourist to part with one of those?
Sheffield cutlers used to make them for the US market. During the Civil War half those export models were engraved "Death to Abolitionists" and the other half "Death to Rebels" to increase sales.
Typical yank accoutrement, flashy and form over function and designed for posers - much better with this
http://www.888knivesrus.com/category/.a ... s.sfstory/