$10 a gallon!!!!!

[southern yankee]

In Europe for gas. That is NUTS!! I also heard most drive slow, don't use the AC. Also round abouts are very popular. I heard it saves gas. Would like to hear some stories. On how you get by?? I was told it was about $6, down under. would like to know other gas prices.:-2:mad:

[Carolly]

Its about £5 a gallon in England.......not sure what that is exactly in $:-3But yes must be what you have said.....its a nightmare.

[southern yankee]

:QUOTE=Carolly;952153]Its about £5 a gallon in England.......not sure what that is exactly in $:-3But yes must be what you have said.....its a nightmare.[/QUOTE] So CRAZY!! Last night saw a interveiw with the CEO of EXXON . Don't know how he could show his face. SOO SAD!!:mad::mad::mad:

[Carolly]

Ye but you have to remember that we pay more in tax on that then what the actual petrol costs...the tax we pay on that is approx 67p a litre which is over £3 a gallon.

[Chezzie]

Its crippling alot of businesses..

I havent filled my car up for ages, would be not far off £100 at the moment. Deisel is dearer than unleaded so businesses are struggling big time.

I put £20 quid in and it just hits the quarter of a tank mark. I havent used the AC at all this year, too expensive.

[southern yankee]

Chezzie;952164 wrote: Its crippling alot of businesses..

I havent filled my car up for ages, would be not far off £100 at the moment. Deisel is dearer than unleaded so businesses are struggling big time.

I put £20 quid in and it just hits the quarter of a tank mark. I havent used the AC at all this year, too expensive. so sad. the oil companies have everyone at their mercey. As they LAUGH all the way to the bank. My hubby works in the natural gas and oil industory. It sure isn't the workers:mad: who a reaping the benifits.

[hoppy]

In the 1920's the Ford model T was said to be capable of 20 MPG. Also the later model A's. After all those years of advancements and we are bragging about 35 MPG? We should be up to 50 MPG or more. I blame auto buyers. Every time mechanical or electronic improvements are made in the auto industry, someone adds more crap to the car for the engine to power. All at the cost of MPG.:driving::mad:

[southern yankee]

hoppy;952217 wrote: In the 1920's the Ford model T was said to be capable of 20 MPG. Also the later model A's. After all those years of advancements and we are bragging about 35 MPG? We should be up to 50 MPG or more. I blame auto buyers. Every time mechanical or electronic improvements are made in the auto industry, someone adds more crap to the car for the engine to power. All at the cost of MPG.:driving::mad: you know Americans, love those bells and whistles!!

[suzy_creamcheese]

what do you expect. Oils a non renewable resource and people just use it like there is no tommorow. Maybe this will make people realise the value of itand look for other more long term viable alternatives

[southern yankee]

suzy_creamcheese;952258 wrote: what do you expect. Oils a non renewable resource and people just use it like there is no tommorow. Maybe this will make people realise the value of itand look for other more long term viable alternatives yes i agree.

[abbey]

I tend to walk most places now as petrol is so expensive.

The other problem of course is, because fuel prices are so high so too is food etc.

[southern yankee]

What does a dozen eggs cost?? Or a gallon of milk?? here (La.) over $2 for a dozen eggs and $3.90 for milk

[shelbell]

We're sticking around $4/gal. It takes about $100 to fill our van and another $75 to fill our SUV. When we see the prices go down a little we go out and fill them both. I've stopped making little runs here and there and try to combine everything at once so it's just one trip out.

[librtyhead]

I hate that I can only use my Chevelle on the weekends. I used to drive it all week.

[southern yankee]

this morning i paid $3.63. hope it keeps coming down. But i am sure they will find some stupid excuse for it to go up again.:mad:

[YZGI]

southern yankee;952673 wrote: this morning i paid $3.63. hope it keeps coming down. But i am sure they will find some stupid excuse for it to go up again.:mad:
Went up here today. Was 3.45 yesterday 3.65 today. VP Cheney must need to make a house payment.

[southern yankee]

yzgi;952791 wrote: went Up Here Today. Was 3.45 Yesterday 3.65 Today. Vp Cheney Must Need To Make A House Payment. Cha Ching!!

[Nomad]

Hes praying for matches.

(Because he ran out)







He starts oil fields on fire just because he can.

See what Im getting at here ?

Its a joke.

[southern yankee]

Nomad;952805 wrote: Hes praying for matches.

(Because he ran out)







He starts oil fields on fire just because he can.

See what Im getting at here ?

Its a joke.



i am afraid it may be true.

[abbey]

southern yankee;952522 wrote: What does a dozen eggs cost?? Or a gallon of milk?? here (La.) over $2 for a dozen eggs and $3.90 for milk1 dozen free range eggs £3.20 dozen, 0.86 for 2 pints of milk.

[southern yankee]

abbey;952903 wrote: 1 dozen free range eggs £3.20 dozen, 0.86 for 2 pints of milk. free range is higher for me. closer to 3. that is also store brand milk.

[Helen]

i live and work in the south west of england in one of the most popular uk holiday spots.

we are suffering greatly here, buisnesses going under, people out of work.

i work in a family run fast food buisness and my boss has now decided he cant afford to keep it going for another season as takings have gone down by half of what they were last year. we are crippled by taxes, rising food costs, gas and electricity prices also diesel and petrol prices.

what we make now has to see us through the winter period because everything closes down then. we are going to have a lean winter this year !!

[southern yankee]

Helen;952940 wrote: i live and work in the south west of england in one of the most popular uk holiday spots.

we are suffering greatly here, buisnesses going under, people out of work.

i work in a family run fast food buisness and my boss has now decided he cant afford to keep it going for another season as takings have gone down by half of what they were last year. we are crippled by taxes, rising food costs, gas and electricity prices also diesel and petrol prices.

what we make now has to see us through the winter period because everything closes down then. we are going to have a lean winter this year !! is it that way all over the UK?? Or is worse in your area because it is a vacation area?? Either way I hope things improve for you soon.

[Helen]

Barman;952954 wrote: Do you think the weather has also played a big part in this? It has been dreadful all Summer.

Being nosey are you in Newquay? It seemed quite busy a few weeks ago when i visited.


hi barman,

yes i am !! there are quite a lot of people around but they are keeping a tight hold on the purse strings. it must be hard for families with children, no beach with this weather so the roads get grid locked and the price of indoor entertainment isnt cheap either.

we've just had the board masters surf competion, which ended last sunday and its all gone dead again now.

we've actually had TWO dry days in a row now :-2

[Galbally]

The price in Ireland has gone down a little over the last few weeks, at one point unleaded petrol was at €1.32 a litre and diesel was at €1.41 a litre. I am not sure how that works out in pounds, dollars and gallons, (we did it before on another thread). But generally our petrol is cheaper than the UK, but like all European countries its much more expensive than in the states. At the moment its €1.23, which is still a lot more expensive than last year but at least its down a bit.

One of our local Garages (Maxol I think), now has pumps for biodiesel and bioenthanol, the bio-ethanol (which you have to modify your car to run on, costs €0.99 cents a litre, which is a hell of a lot cheaper than the conventional stuff). Though its not practical to have as many cars as we have now, (with the same fuel economy) running on bioethanol, as we simply wouldn't be able to produce enough of the stuff.

Interestingly, in Brazil they are almost completely self-sufficient in transport fuel, and have been for years, they use bio-ethanol derived from sugar cane, and are the world leaders in that field now, though their level of car ownership is not as high as in Europe or the States, but at least they don't have to spend a huge amount of their national resources buying oil from unfriendly regimes abroad to drive their cars around like the rest of us.

There are many problems anyway with using first generation biofuels at the moment, as most people know, as land is primarily required to grow food, (and also it would be nice to keep some pristine natural environments like the amazon basin or the indonesian rainforests) also our vehicles are way too inefficient, and to power all the cars that currently run on petrol or diesel on biofuels instead would be impossible, as we could never produce enough of the stuff, and also a lot of people would starve as we need to also eat and to grow food you need land.

One of the major, major problems is that our modern lifestyles are just ridiculously profligate in regards to energy, and we need to dramatically improve general energy efficiency, and live in a more sustainable way, I suppose very high energy costs brings that truth home to people a lot more effectively than flowery speeches about the environment. Small things like better home insulation, less reliance on air conditioning, a slightly smaller car perhaps or even walking or cycling sometimes, towns and cities that don't require people to drive everywhere, and being more energy concious in general, these would all make a massive difference if they could be improved across the board.

Though certainly some biofuels do have a role in the medium-term, once we have perfected better ways of making them that don't impact so much on food growing resources, and there is plenty of unused marginal land on planet earth that can be used for biofuels, and perhaps even seaweed based ones.

But essentially what we need to do is get away from the burning of fuels for transport as much as possible, switch to fuel cell cars, use renewable resources like the wind, solar, and wave to generate electricity, build a new generation of nuclear power stations and deal more effectively with storage problems, and in the longer term things like Nuclear Fusion, and exotic energy generation systems should be invested in so that our technological society (which is all based on energy) has a future.



I think with everything that is going on in the moment with oil prices, the trouble in Georgia, the instability in the middle east, its obvious that all the western countries are far too dependent in almost every way on unsustainable fossil fuels like oil and gas, (which we generally import from countries that our not our friends) and we need to rethink the way we make and use energy, for economic reasons, for the security of our nations, and also of course from an environmental perspective as well, (which is a whole different thread).

To be honest, this should have been realized a long time ago, (and I have to say that many scientists, engineers etc were warning about these problems for a long time) and we should have started making provision for a different energy model at least a decade, if not 2 decades ago, but it wasn't done because politically it is difficult to get people to accept big changes, but I think that the general population are much more aware of serious these problems are now, and will accept that changes have to be made.

[spot]

A perfect post from the young Irishman with the guitar, thank you.

The last time I checked, southern yankee, two thirds of the cost of petrol (what you call gas) on UK forecourts at the point of delivery to the public is the tax component. Our oil companies charge slightly less than yours, perhaps they have less distance to carry it. Our government then deliberately triples the price in order to reduce non-urgent use and a good thing it is that they do it.

No, we don't drive slow, our speed limits in general are higher than yours. Outside of towns the speed limit's 50mph on tight little roads, 60mph on wider ones with no dividing barrier separating oncoming traffic and 70mph on all roads with barriers.

Maybe one car in twenty has air conditioning, we don't need it or use it unless we've more money than we know how to spend.

Roundabouts are faster to get through than traffic lights on average. We use traffic lights if roundabouts are less safe at a given junction. Since we have so many of them, motorists are used to them and know how to get through them without crashing. We have sleeping policemen too which keeps a lot of repair garages in business replacing suspensions at shorter intervals than the manufacturers claim their products can last.