now they goading Pakistan

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:02 pm

I for one am really tired of this war on every country.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:03 pm

expecting a world war 3 soon.

shelbell · Post by **shelbell** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:33 pm

Hi fuzzy, first thing to know is you can't believe anything that comes from airamerica. I won't waste my time even reading or listening to anything they comment on. They used to be on the radio but so many people got so sick of hearing their very left wing nuts bash on our county and service men and women that they went bankrupt and off the air.

Pakistan is one of our allies in the middle east. We have tried to get them to let us go in and rally up all the terrorists that continue to cross borders into Iraq, kill our soldiers, then go back into Pakistan. Pakistan doesn't even bother with that border and pretty much let the militants do what they want...that's why we want to cross that border.

Afghanistan is where we went first, then to Iraq which was probably a mistake, yet we took out a dictator that was slottering his own people at an unbelievable rate...not to mention the raping, family honor killings, cutting off of arms for anyone found carrying American money...etc.

We haven't gone into Russia. Reagan went to the wall and told (I have no idea how to spell that presidents name) them to tear down that wall....that was in the 80's. If we went in there now, there would be a WWIII happening.

I haven't heard anything about us going into Pakistan. Like I said, they are our allies...and where we would need to cross, there aren't any "innocent" people.

It's rags like airamerica that have all these celebrities that hate our county and they just let them bash away on our wonderful country. This is also why so many people in different parts of the world think we so terrible. I for one am proud of my country. This is an awesome country to live in, but we don't take crap....we'll go out and get the terrorists that came into OUR country and killed almost 4,000 of our people that were actually innocent. Our intelligence people have also thwarted many other planned attacks on America from the radical Islam.

shelbell · Post by **shelbell** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:03 am

fuzzy butt;975661 wrote: My god I don't believe I just read that ........:-2

What dont't you believe about it?

shelbell · Post by **shelbell** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:23 am

Just to be fair I went and read the article you had linked. What amazes me about it is the lack of names listed as military personel, witnesses, and government officials. If they are going to write a piece like this, they need to reveal names and sources...only the name of one was not listed because of annonimity. They are very vague in their use of witnesses and sources.

Farther down, it also states that they aren't sure the USA was involved.

I love politics and am an avid watcher....both Republicans and Democrats. I do watch what's going on in the world as much as I can.

Has our country made wrong decisions about things? Absolutely!

Has every other country made wrong decisions about things? Absolutely!

Post by **spot** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:57 am

shelbell;975649 wrote: I haven't heard anything about us going into Pakistan. Like I said, they are our allies...and where we would need to cross, there aren't any "innocent" people.Would you prefer a local newspaper account instead, for the factual detail?

The Frontier Post, Peshawar Pakistan: "Attacks on Pakistan’s sovereignty", Sunday, September 07, 2008.

Pakistan's foreign office protests and Parliament's condemnation on NATO forces' incursion in Angoor Adda on Thursday seem to have no effect. German Defence Minister Franz Josef Jung called on General Tariq Majid at Joint Staff Headquarters in Rawalpindi when the former warned that Pakistan reserves the right to appropriately retaliate in future.

But the same day the US spy plane fired missile in North Waiziristan near Pak-Afghan border killing seven people including children. This was the third US attack within Pakistan's territory in last three days despite protests by Pakistan's Foreign Office. Pakistan's ambassador in the US. Hussain Haqqani has also condemned the incursions and reminded the US authorities that such acts would create hatred against the US.

http://frontierpost.com.pk/News.aspx?ncat=ed&nid=140

Innocent people, presumably, at least include women, children and any other Pakistanis who simply live in these local villages near the border and try to get on with life despite foreigners arriving in helicopters and shooting at them.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:43 am

fuzzy butt;975574 wrote: http://airamerica.com/full_story/120821415

This makes me sick first Iraq, then Afghanistan, then Russia, now Pakistan. Christ I hope our government can stop the training grounds in the north of Australia because America will be bombing us next!!!!! :-5

How dare they enter Pakistan!!!!!! Killed 20 innocent people :-5 Pakistan has said next time they try a smart arse tactic like that they'll shoot back. And bloody good on em too!!!

You forgot Korea, Iran, Lybia, Cuba ........

Post by **spot** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:07 am

Bryn Mawr;975701 wrote: You forgot Korea, Iran, Lybia, Cuba ........

Grenada, Panama, Guatemala, Libya...

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:55 am

fuzzy butt;975574 wrote: http://airamerica.com/full_story/120821415

This makes me sick first Iraq, then Afghanistan, then Russia, now Pakistan. Christ I hope our government can stop the training grounds in the north of Australia because America will be bombing us next!!!!! :-5

How dare they enter Pakistan!!!!!! Killed 20 innocent people :-5 Pakistan has said next time they try a smart arse tactic like that they'll shoot back. And bloody good on em too!!!

Here we go with the "innocent people" again. Every freaking AK waving, bomb belted terrorist we kill is an "innocent" civilian. Get real. Get some guts. Become independent. Or roll on your backs and pi$$ yourselves.

Post by **spot** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:13 am

shelbell wrote: where we would need to cross, there aren't any "innocent" peoplehoppy;975734 wrote: Here we go with the "innocent people" again. Every freaking AK waving, bomb belted terrorist we kill is an "innocent" civilian. Get real. Get some guts. Become independent. Or roll on your backs and pi$$ yourselves.You're defining the US to the world every time you post here, the pair of you. I don't really need to respond, do I, you're both demonstrating the reality of the situation far more convincingly than I ever could.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:19 am

spot;975816 wrote: You're defining the US to the world every time you post here, the pair of you. I don't really need to respond, do I, you're both demonstrating the reality of the situation far more convincingly than I ever could.

And yet you continue to respond with your warped, twisted and distorted propaganda.

Post by **spot** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:22 am

hoppy;975819 wrote: And yet you continue to respond with your warped, twisted and distorted propaganda.

Rather that than the level of xenophobia that's destroyed your country and turned it into a pariah and laughing stock among nations.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:29 am

spot;975822 wrote: Rather that than the level of xenophobia that's destroyed your country and turned it into a pariah and laughing stock among nations.

So you admit you are responding with warped, twisted and distorted propaganda. Who's laughing at us? Iraq? Afghanistan? Russia was not laughing a few weeks ago. A bunch of liberals no one gives a crap about? The laugh is on you.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:29 am

I love goading Pakistan. Pakistan and Mongolia, boy you should see them jump up and down when I tease them about their stupid hats.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:32 am

hoppy;975734 wrote: Here we go with the "innocent people" again. Every freaking AK waving, bomb belted terrorist we kill is an "innocent" civilian. Get real. Get some guts. Become independent. Or roll on your backs and pi$$ yourselves.

:wah:

Ive been biting my tongue and Im tempted to unleash a wicked torrent of fire upon hoppy world but after little thought Ive decided youre doing a fine job by yourself.

Post by **spot** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:34 am

hoppy;975829 wrote: So you admit you are responding with warped, twisted and distorted propaganda. Who's laughing at us? Iraq? Afghanistan? Russia was not laughing a few weeks ago. A bunch of liberals no one gives a crap about? The laugh is on you.

Just keep taking your country down the pan of history, you're doing a fine job. The rest of us can sit back and watch. You don't need pushing, you leapt decades ago.

It's shameful that you don't produce additional information rather than just opinion. And no, "freaking AK waving, bomb belted terrorists" aren't innocent, they're criminals. Sadly they're not the only ones who die when your armed forces open fire though and "we didn't intend that", even in the unlikely event that it's true, isn't an acceptable excuse any longer. It's happened far too often and it should never happen at all.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:31 am

I get freaking tired of the obnoxious posturing put on by non Americans every time they get a chance to slag us. So Britain and Australia, what are you doing to improve things? Beisdes blow hot air on an internet forum? Hmm? You act as if it's all the personal fault of every one of us, so let's make it personal across the board shall we? I'd like to know what you FB and you Spot and hey even *coff*Nomad, are doing to make things better? So what is it?

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:40 am

spot;975840 wrote: Just keep taking your country down the pan of history, you're doing a fine job. The rest of us can sit back and watch. You don't need pushing, you leapt decades ago.

It's shameful that you don't produce additional information rather than just opinion. And no, "freaking AK waving, bomb belted terrorists" aren't innocent, they're criminals. Sadly they're not the only ones who die when your armed forces open fire though and "we didn't intend that", even in the unlikely event that it's true, isn't an acceptable excuse any longer. It's happened far too often and it should never happen at all.

We are fighting a war against terrorists spot. Not just on our behalf, but on behalf of all nations who are or may become terrorist targets. It's a war spot. Real innocent people get killed in war. EVERY war. Deal with it spot. Either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.

Red's right about the USA getting bashed on the boards at every opportunity by the gutless hordes. I've been on other boards that allowed the USA to get crapped on but the minute I pointed out faults of euro countries I got warnings and even banned. Ban me now if your going to because I won't roll over and pi$$ myself.

Post by **spot** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:44 am

RedGlitter;975897 wrote: I get freaking tired of the obnoxious posturing put on by non Americans every time they get a chance to slag us. So Britain and Australia, what are you doing to improve things? Beisdes blow hot air on an internet forum? Hmm? You act as if it's all the personal fault of every one of us, so let's make it personal across the board shall we? I'd like to know what you FB and you Spot and hey even *coff*Nomad, are doing to make things better? So what is it?

I'm not posturing, I'm annoyed. America interferes in the internal affairs of sovereign countries, it's been doing it all my life but the scale of these interventions is now intolerable where previously it was contained by US public opinion and a willingness around the world to give the US the benefit of the doubt time and again. We're past that.

You have a minor irritant criminal fundamentalist pressure group run by Osama bin Laden committing a major criminal act and your administration doesn't treat it as a criminal act, it especially doesn't investigate the crime adequately, it declares a meaningless "war on terror" and proceeds to cause the untimely deaths of over a million non-Americans who had nothing at all to do with the crime. Shame on you all, every last one of you, it's not good enough.

You don't need armed forces abroad, you need effective policing systems but you'll not get any of it short of an internal revolution against the usurpers of your political inheritance and a lot of prosecutions. Cleanse your filthy stable and you'll see no criticism from me at all.

Post by **spot** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:47 am

hoppy;975901 wrote: We are fighting a war against terrorists spot. Not just on our behalf, but on behalf of all nations who are or may become terrorist targets. It's a war spot. Real innocent people get killed in war. EVERY war. Deal with it spot. Either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.

Red's right about the USA getting bashed on the boards at every opportunity by the gutless hordes. I've been on other boards that allowed the USA to get crapped on but the minute I pointed out faults of euro countries I got warnings and even banned. Ban me now if your going to because I won't roll over and pi$$ myself.

Read the above. There were a few criminals and now there are a lot more of them in reaction to the way the US responded. They're still criminals and it's not a war, it's an excuse to deploy US armed forces.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:52 am

spot;975906 wrote: Read the above. There were a few criminals and now there are a lot more of them in reaction to the way the US responded. They're still criminals and it's not a war, it's an excuse to deploy US armed forces.

Let 'em come spot. Stay safe in whatever cranny you can find and do nothing but whine. We'll hold 'em off for you as long as we can.

Post by **spot** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:55 am

hoppy;975911 wrote: Let 'em come spot. Stay safe in whatever cranny you can find and do nothing but whine. We'll hold 'em off for you as long as we can.

The US is the sole problem as far as this is concerned, it's all the responsibility of the US administration and the lousy decisions it's taken instead of adequately policing a criminal act. "Bring them on" was part of it, I agree.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:03 am

spot;975903 wrote: I'm not posturing, I'm annoyed. America interferes in the internal affairs of sovereign countries, it's been doing it all my life but the scale of these interventions is now intolerable where previously it was contained by US public opinion and a willingness around the world to give the US the benefit of the doubt time and again. We're past that.

You have a minor irritant criminal fundamentalist pressure group run by Osama bin Laden committing a major criminal act and your administration doesn't treat it as a criminal act, it especially doesn't investigate the crime adequately, it declares a meaningless "war on terror" and proceeds to cause the untimely deaths of over a million non-Americans who had nothing at all to do with the crime. Shame on you all, every last one of you, it's not good enough.

You don't need armed forces abroad, you need effective policing systems but you'll not get any of it short of an internal revolution against the usurpers of your political inheritance and a lot of prosecutions. Cleanse your filthy stable and you'll see no criticism from me at all.

Yes.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:06 am

Shame on you all, every last one of you, it's not good enough.

And who are you to put shame on any of us?! Remember what happens when you point the finger. All this is is more America bashing from you and someone who claims to be one. That's what's shameful.

Post by **spot** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:08 am

RedGlitter;975925 wrote: And who are you to put shame on any of us?! Remember what happens when you point the finger. All this is is more America bashing from you and someone who claims to be one. That's what's shameful.

It's justified by the facts. Countries have self-interests, fine. The US has gone too far and has too often broken the rules, it needs caging.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:10 am

All of a sudden were above criticism ?

Why ?

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:13 am

spot;975914 wrote: The US is the sole problem as far as this is concerned, it's all the responsibility of the US administration and the lousy decisions it's taken instead of adequately policing a criminal act. "Bring them on" was part of it, I agree.

Yes, there are countries who would rather fight than make an honest living. Whenever they need an excuse to commit wholesale murder, they use the USA as that excuse. Well, hug terrorists all you want and the knife they have will go in deeper.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:15 am

spot;975928 wrote: It's justified by the facts. Countries have self-interests, fine. The US has gone too far and has too often broken the rules, it needs caging.

Sorry spot. Americans grew up raising beef. Not sheep. Cows are independent critters. So are Americans. Maybe that's the cause of it all.

TheNewDG · Post by **TheNewDG** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:16 am

At least we have orthodontists here.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:18 am

And pistol packing mamas named Sarah.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:40 am

These clowns probably couldn't work their GPS, either that or it's part of a plot to destabilise the pakistani regime (who if you remember just got rid of the military dictator musharif ) by making them look ineffective and unable to keep their independence from the americans so that the fundamentalists get more support. Pakistan actually DOES have WMD's and the means to use them so it would be a good excuse to invade if a fundamentalist party took power. It's unlikely but heavy handed american action makes it more likely imo.

RedGlitter;975897 wrote: I get freaking tired of the obnoxious posturing put on by non Americans every time they get a chance to slag us. So Britain and Australia, what are you doing to improve things? Besdes blow hot air on an internet forum? Hmm? You act as if it's all the personal fault of every one of us, so let's make it personal across the board shall we? I'd like to know what you FB and you Spot and hey even *coff*Nomad, are doing to make things better? So what is it?

One advantage of being british or australian is we are allowed to say what we like about our government and anything else so one of the things we are doing to make things better is Objecting to our countries involvement in this ludicrous escapade loudly and often. Yiou seem to forget there are british troops involved in this as well. In the ist gulf war we lost more troops to american fighter planes than to enemy action. It's bad enough being involved in a war without worrying about getting killed by those are supposed to be on their own side. Not only do they not have the good grace to apologise they also try and cover it up.

This is just one such incident.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/6333853.stm

Dig out the footage it would make you weep and then want to lynch the pilots, what kind of idiot thinks orange is a good desert camouflage colour

Maybe you could get someone in the US administration to complain about the actions of british troops in afghanistan and iraq- that way the demand to get them out of there will reach such a volume even GB and DC will have to listen and take action.

(Heard from a scottish soldier- when the taliban open fire the nato forces hide because they know they are being shot at. when the british open fire the taliban hide because they know they are being get shot at, when the americans open fire everybody hides because F--k knows who the target is)

posted by hoppy

Yes, there are countries who would rather fight than make an honest living. Whenever they need an excuse to commit wholesale murder, they use the USA as that excuse. Well, hug terrorists all you want and the knife they have will go in deeper.

tell you what, get the US government to sign the extradition treaty with the UK that congress have refused to ratify but we are stupid enough to honour and hand over all the IRA terrorists you refused to extradite and accept the fact you deliberately turned a blind eye to the fact americans were financing a terrorist organisation then maybe, just maybe, we might believe the US is involved in a war on terror. Accept the jurisdiction of international courts for US citizens and not just cite international law when it suits you. Stop unilaterally abrogating international treaties when it suits you, stop imprisoning foreign citizens without trial stop de-stabilising countries just because you think them unsuitable for american interests and you can have some claim to make an honest living and be in a position to claim the moral high ground. Surely no one in america still thinks not going after osama bin laden and invading iraq instead was a good idea. How come you are not angry at being lied to by your own government? In other words get a hold of your government and call them to account for what they have done. You owe it to the 4,000 plus dead and the other thousands wounded.

Until then stop feeling sorry for yourselves. It gets a bit repetitive hearing americans bleating about how no one loves them and everybody hated them and is envious of their way of life. If you are going to play with the big boys at international politics you need to be able to handle the criticism if not take your toys and go home where it's safe. Personally the world might be a safer place of GW wasn't trying to start a war with Iran and now it looks like he wants another cold war with russia -I say cold war because surely even he wouldn't want to start ww3, but then again maybe god is whispering to him.

TheNewDG · Post by **TheNewDG** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:43 am

spot;975669 wrote: Would you prefer a local newspaper account instead, for the factual detail?

The Frontier Post, Peshawar Pakistan: "Attacks on Pakistan’s sovereignty", Sunday, September 07, 2008.

Pakistan's foreign office protests and Parliament's condemnation on NATO forces' incursion in Angoor Adda on Thursday seem to have no effect. German Defence Minister Franz Josef Jung called on General Tariq Majid at Joint Staff Headquarters in Rawalpindi when the former warned that Pakistan reserves the right to appropriately retaliate in future.

But the same day the US spy plane fired missile in North Waiziristan near Pak-Afghan border killing seven people including children. This was the third US attack within Pakistan's territory in last three days despite protests by Pakistan's Foreign Office. Pakistan's ambassador in the US. Hussain Haqqani has also condemned the incursions and reminded the US authorities that such acts would create hatred against the US.

http://frontierpost.com.pk/News.aspx?ncat=ed&nid=140

Innocent people, presumably, at least include women, children and any other Pakistanis who simply live in these local villages near the border and try to get on with life despite foreigners arriving in helicopters and shooting at them.

Since when do spy planes have missiles?

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:24 pm

GMC- Don't blame the USA for whining about not being liked. We are well aware of that fact. YOU people have been the whiners here today, here other days and most likely, here tomorrow. Whining is cheap and easy. You say Australians can complain about their government? WOW, awesome. We always could and do.

Say what you want, I've looked at other countries and governments. As attractive as some countries look, the USA always rates highest.

TheNewDG · Post by **TheNewDG** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:27 pm

hoppy;976120 wrote: GMC- Don't blame the USA for whining about not being liked. We are well aware of that fact. YOU people have been the whiners here today, here other days and most likely, here tomorrow. Whining is cheap and easy. You say Australians can complain about their government? WOW, awesome. We always could and do.

Say what you want, I've looked at other countries and governments. As attractive as some countries look, the USA always rates highest.

Hoppy, you need to back that up with factual figures with these guys. Just for future reference. They'll eat you alive.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:33 pm

TheNewDG;976123 wrote: Hoppy, you need to back that up with factual figures with these guys. Just for future reference. They'll eat you alive.

Back up what? I didn't say anything that requires backing up in my last post.

My last line was meant as I see other countries through MY eyes. That is MY opinion.

TheNewDG · Post by **TheNewDG** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:35 pm

hoppy;976128 wrote: Back up what? I didn't say anything that requires backing up in my last post.

My last line was meant as I see other countries through MY eyes.

You said America always rates the highest.

Compared to whom?

When?

Link?

Just watching out for ya!

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:44 pm

TheNewDG;976130 wrote: You said America always rates the highest.

Compared to whom?

When?

Link?

Just watching out for ya!

The only other country I might consider would be Canada but I would need to do more research on that. Geographically, it's similar to the USA in many ways. Climate, mountains, plains etc. No other country interests me. There is no link, just my opinion.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:29 pm

fuzzy butt;976207 wrote: I'm just wondering if anyone noticed it was a Commonwealth country that America invaded.

America just invaded the Queen of England!!!!!

Not only that but it's quite possible you've just ****ed up our entire Cricket season. Do you realise you've probably destroyed the only diplomatic institution we have with Pakistan? OUR FRIENDS.........do you understand that Mr Bush? Pakistan is our friend.

Oh don't worry about Libya being invaded again. Did anyone read that they are Americas' new best friends? yep , that whacky handsome dude "Gaddaffi duck" is your new bestest friend in the whole world.:wah::wah::wah:

I wouldn't call him friend just yet. He still has not forked over any money he promised for restitution. I'm surprised you people don't suck up to him. Or isn't he radical enough for you?

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:33 pm

You euro's put the USA down but MAYBE, if you people were not so damn permissive, radical muslims would not be running amok so. Maybe it's really all europe's fault for not having the balls to handle affairs over there before they get out of control.

TheNewDG · Post by **TheNewDG** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:34 pm

hoppy;976229 wrote: You euro's put the USA down but MAYBE, if you people were not so damn permissive, radical muslims would not be running amok so. Maybe it's really all europe's fault for not having the balls to handle affairs over there before they get out of control.

I'd rather have radical muslims running around than having the Westboro Baptist Church running amok, actually.

TheNewDG · Post by **TheNewDG** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:37 pm

fuzzy butt;976235 wrote: Nope more surprised that you (your government) would travel down this path again. It ended badly last time why would they think it will be different this time?

Face it America is goading us all into world war three and you guys are sitting back and counting the days,not listening to any other s opinions or pleas ..............Yep America we can count on you are you trying to make up for not being there for the other last to world wars? you trying to get there first this time round?

You guys may call it Yank bashing .........but in reality you refuse to step outside your politics and look inwards.

Dont you have an Outback you could go relax and have a drink at?

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:39 pm

fuzzy butt;976235 wrote: Nope more surprised that you (your government) would travel down this path again. It ended badly last time why would they think it will be different this time?

Face it America is goading us all into world war three and you guys are sitting back and counting the days,not listening to any other s opinions or pleas ..............Yep America we can count on you! Are you trying to make up for not being there for the other last to world wars? you trying to get there first this time round?

You guys may call it Yank bashing .........but in reality you refuse to step outside your politics and look inwards.

It all boils down to one thing. Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:45 pm

fuzzy butt;976246 wrote: :wah::wah: No, surprisingly enough, we don't have those restaraunts here.

Hoppy that's just an old saying and if you look at the context in how it was said and what circumstances it was said in then you wouldn't be using it here.:rolleyes:

FB said-America just invaded the Queen of England!!!!!

Now there's a disgusting thought.

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:46 pm

hoppy;976254 wrote: America just invaded the Queen of England!!!!!

Now there's a disgusting thought.

Don't you fancy our Lizzie?:D

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:49 pm

Chezzie;976255 wrote: Don't you fancy our Lizzie?:D

I had a moment of lewdness there. Sorry.