When Is The Line Crossed?

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:21 pm

DesignerGal;476441 wrote: I like this one, myself...

Who are they?, they look like the lads who put the dustbins out where I live! Here is the original boy band.

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DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:21 pm

buttercup;476445 wrote: is that backstreet boys? sorry i dont know many american boy bands :yh_blush

New Kids On The Block!:wah: They are from the late eighties/early nineties. REALLY LAME.

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:23 pm

Oh ive heard of them, they got quite popular here :wah:

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:27 pm

:wah:

i liked the thompson twins but dont remember them looking like that :p

24Hours · Post by **24Hours** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:33 pm

Frank, or 24 hour nut... If you wouldnt mind.. I rarely attempt this sort of thing. However, I would like to explain to you how I feel. And I would appreciate the members of FG letting me know if I am wrong or if you understand etc..... Your style of posting here, I feel is inappropriate from a professional standpoint. You are " Not one of us" You are the administrator of a forum of your own. Am I correct? Your long drawn out analysis of issues here are beginning to sound like we are attending a seminar. Then your behavior becomes contradictory because you dont know anyone here well enough to instruct them. Its too familiar ( Spot) But because you are who you are... you feel free to do so. (Spot) If you continue to present yourself here this way... I thik you will find that its like when the police respond to a domestic quarrell and the victim sides with their spouse. Ill explain it one more way.... You have a card to get into the Admirals Club at the airport. We do not. You can come into the terminal and socialize with us... but we cant go into the club with the members. I know your going to say " I can come and go as I please.... post as I please etc..... I think you seem like a nice guy. A little cocky and a little overbearing, but well meaning. I think you should go away. We do have a special place here. Even with its flaws. We will work everything out on our own. You should go teach seminars to the members on your forum. Your like a peeping Tom. Sorry, I had to express my true feelings.

That's OK, I'm getting used to people telling me how I should post, it was like that since day one here

I hear what you are saying but I am a 24 hour nut and I post on dozens of sites (for varying reasons) and so I perhaps don't live and cement down on one like you or many do - therefore we are on different pages. I hear what you are saying but I don't see myself as just an Admin, despite your focus on that. I'm a coin collector, father, artist, and several other things I would throw in before Admin. Everybody is different. Your advice telling me to go away is noted, and you doing so is part of what makes you different from me, too.

Hopefully, like a year from now or something, you will PM me and say, you know what, I am glad you stayed. That would make me happy and I don't get angry because someone writes what you did. I believe you should be comfortable enough to write it and the fact that you were tells me some good things.

- Frank

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:39 pm

i found them

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:42 pm

You got that one from Jimbo dident you?

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:43 pm

Dident you have a haircut like that novelty :sneaky:

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:46 pm

buttercup;476487 wrote: You got that one from Jimbo dident you?

bc you know whats out of bounds ..... a tired kangaroo ... now thats a jimbo joke :wah: :wah: :wah:

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:49 pm

flopstock;476457 wrote: I understand what you are saying, I think...

I can criticize my family with every breath, but god help the outsider who tries it ...

I just think it sucks if snooze left.. god knows we didn't agree on a lot lately, but she's always been one of my favorites. And I've never had to worry about her expressing herself.. just one of the things I admire about her..:-4

Remember in every group you enter you either make friends or make enemies. This forum isn't for everybody, and I just would like to say if you truly dislike FG and it's ways, admin, members, color etc, please feel free to find a place that suits you better.

I would like to suggest those of you who like the aggressive style of posting try out www.wickedmoon.com, heck some of you likey have been there already. And remember there are many other forums out there ie: 24hour, R&R etc surely folks can find their match.

FG has a style all onto it's own, many posters embrace that style, and wish to see it continue.

I hope in leaving Snooze, you have gone on to find a forum that has better suited your personality and post style. I recall you from past forums and always knew FG just wasn't really your ilk.

Lastly for those of you who do visit more than one forum remember for every place you air your dirty laundry others will see it and bring it back to those you offend, criticize, blackball, insult etc. The net is big but it isn't that big.

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:51 pm

Novelty;476497 wrote: I love this hair do :wah:

thats priceless, got tears running down my face :wah:

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:53 pm

flopstock;476457 wrote:

I just think it sucks if snooze left.. god knows we didn't agree on a lot lately, but she's always been one of my favorites. And I've never had to worry about her expressing herself.. just one of the things I admire about her..:-4

Snooze is a good person. I've wanted to clobber her occasionally (hey, she probably has wanted to clobber me back - though of course I know I'm perfect), but I love her dearly too. She's honest, straightforward and caring. Very much part of the family here. She's been bullied and pushed around a lot lately, and goaded and provoked, way beyond normal kidding about. Of course she won't be banned (or if she is, a lot of others will be having to exit with her if there's any fairness and justice in the management here) - too much of the goading and provocation is a matter of public record.

Floppy, I hope she doesn't choose to leave though!!!! That really would suck, big time. And would mean that bullying pays.

It's Christmas / Hannukah whatever. A season not only of good will to all but a time when most of us should be out there decking the halls with boughs of holly, spending time with our families and friends, singing carols not being all bitter and twisted and unpleasant and hunched up beneath the cathode rays.

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:57 pm

Maybe you could start a thread for her Pam, i personally think she's just having a break from here :-6

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:00 pm

buttercup;476511 wrote: Maybe you could start a thread for her Pam, i personally think she's just having a break from here :-6

I hope you're right, Buttercup. The Games People Play often impact very sadly on real people.

Anyway, time I did some decking of the halls.. maybe in my case with boughs of gum tree... grin.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:11 pm

[quote=minks;476499]Remember in every group you enter you either make friends or make enemies. This forum isn't for everybody, and I just would like to say if you truly dislike FG and it's ways, admin, members, color etc, please feel free to find a place that suits you better.

I would like to suggest those of you who like the aggressive style of posting try out www.wickedmoon.com, heck some of you likey have been there already. And remember there are many other forums out there ie: 24hour, R&R etc surely folks can find their match.

FG has a style all onto it's own, many posters embrace that style, and wish to see it continue.

I hope in leaving Snooze, you have gone on to find a forum that has better suited your personality and post style. I recall you from past forums and always knew FG just wasn't really your ilk.

Lastly for those of you who do visit more than one forum remember for every place you air your dirty laundry others will see it and bring it back to those you offend, criticize, blackball, insult etc. The net is big but it isn't that big.[/quote]

Very well said Minks....I have witnessed this (your last paragraph) very recently...must say it upset me even though I am not involved with recent conflicts myself.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:15 pm

Bez;476529 wrote:

Very well said Minks....I have witnessed this (your last paragraph) very recently...must say it upset me even though I am not involved with recent conflicts myself.Sorry to see you upset Bezza :-4

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:23 pm

abbey;476532 wrote: Sorry to see you upset Bezza :-4

Not upset personally Abbey, but upset for others and FG in general......I feel the FG team has been let down by comments elsewhere.

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:23 pm

Bez;476529 wrote: [quote=minks;476499]Remember in every group you enter you either make friends or make enemies. This forum isn't for everybody, and I just would like to say if you truly dislike FG and it's ways, admin, members, color etc, please feel free to find a place that suits you better.

I would like to suggest those of you who like the aggressive style of posting try out www.wickedmoon.com, heck some of you likey have been there already. And remember there are many other forums out there ie: 24hour, R&R etc surely folks can find their match.

FG has a style all onto it's own, many posters embrace that style, and wish to see it continue.

I hope in leaving Snooze, you have gone on to find a forum that has better suited your personality and post style. I recall you from past forums and always knew FG just wasn't really your ilk.

Lastly for those of you who do visit more than one forum remember for every place you air your dirty laundry others will see it and bring it back to those you offend, criticize, blackball, insult etc. The net is big but it isn't that big.[/quote]

Very well said Minks....I have witnessed this (your last paragraph) very recently...must say it upset me even though I am not involved with recent conflicts myself.

aw Bez none of us should be involved in any kind of conflict, that just isn't how FG was built

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:26 pm

Then I am glad I am clueless, where the other comments are.

I still just adore Bez's angel...............................:-4

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:27 pm

minks;476541 wrote: [quote=Bez;476529]

aw Bez none of us should be involved in any kind of conflict, that just isn't how FG was built

Absolutely :-4

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:28 pm

chonsigirl;476545 wrote: Then I am glad I am clueless, where the other comments are.

I still just adore Bez's angel...............................:-4

Stay here and be happy Chonsi :-6

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:30 pm

I am always here, and very happy.

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:32 pm

Novelty i know a right tea jenny, if i e-mail you his pic could you put his face instead of lionel's ?

he'd get a good laugh out of it

24Hours · Post by **24Hours** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:34 pm

Hi Aussie! I love that Christmas spirit...

Weeder, I read your post again and thought about it some more, probably because Pam here got me in the Christmas mood. I don't agree with much of what you said, Weeder, but part of your core point does ring with me. I will do my part and stay away until after the Holidays, so that looking back, I can know I didn't do anything even if inadvertently, that would mess with Xmas. It's a Xmas thing what can I say, I do NOT want to screw with XMAS. Meaning, there are a lot of people here who are looking forward to a nice holiday at their home, FG, and I can see how just a little too easily I may disrupt it - EVEN IF I AM DOING NOTHING WRONG.

In the spirit of Xmas selflessness and giving, I will exit now until 2007. Can you tell I don't want to be blamed for ruining anyones Christmas? :wah: Especially people I already care about?

So, enjoy the Holidays & New Year all, talk to you then. It's all good

HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR!

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:37 pm

Thank you 24hrs

now lets all abandon this thread & let it die

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:00 pm

When does it Cross The Line?

When a group is set to Private so someone can let off steam about someone that has just gotten under their skin. Now we have someone that forwarded those things that were said in the heat of the moment to the person they were said about.

1) Why would you deliberatly hurt someone like that? It was private for a reason.

2) I know there are a couple of people here who dont like me and Im sure they say nasty things about me like IM rolling in poison ivy, etc. I dont care. If I confronted every person that said something nasty to me I'd be exhausted!

3) Whats the big deal anyway? So someone groans that a certain someone sends out too much lame @ss chain mail, and that person gets a third person account and then flies of the handle and sends a hostile, expletive ridden email to someone who wasnt even involved in the thread to begin with!

4) Do you think people dont talk about eachother in RL??? I call my boss an idiot all day behind his back! If he doesnt find out, his feelings dont get hurt and I can vent.

Thats my opinion of this whole situation, honestly.

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:28 pm

flopstock;476644 wrote: So, what the hell's not to like about you????:-4

Well, I mean, thanks. But Ive told 2 people on two seperate occassions that they got on my nerves. It may not have been the nicest thing to say, but IM human.

Im serious, though, FLops. Why would someone do that? THere have been many times I get a pm and the person is like "Sally is sucha jackass, gosh she gets on my nerves sometimes." I have nothing to gain by telling Sally that someone said something nasty about her. All it does is hurt Sally . Do you see what I mean? I know lots of people said that those "private groups" would tear this place in two. I think someone passing on hurtful information will do it. I just dont understand that. THere are people who come in and out of my life all the time that I say things about that are less than pretty. For example: I told my friend Liz that I was getting frustrated with my friend Jay because she just moved back in with her mother (she has 2 kids and a husband) where her drug addicted sister comes and goes. The sister actually stole Jay's son's prescription cough medecine (while they were sick) to get high. Ive been telling her they need to get an apartment, get their own place because thats no way to raise kids. I tell Liz that Jay is such a bonehead sometimes. Do you think Liz should tell her what I said? NO!

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:40 pm

DesignerGal;476622 wrote:

When a group is set to Private so someone can let off steam about someone that has just gotten under their skin. Now we have someone that forwarded those things that were said in the heat of the moment to the person they were said about.

Maybe it was'nt intentional.

2) I know there are a couple of people here who dont like me and Im sure they say nasty things about me like IM rolling in poison ivy, etc. I dont care. If I confronted every person that said something nasty to me I'd be exhausted!Can't see what's not to like DG, and can't see why anyone would say anything nasty!

3) Whats the big deal anyway? So someone groans that a certain someone sends out too much lame @ss chain mail, and that person gets a third person account and then flies of the handle and sends a hostile, expletive ridden email to someone who wasnt even involved in the thread to begin with!Exactly!

4) Do you think people dont talk about eachother in RL??? I call my boss an idiot all day behind his back! If he doesnt find out, his feelings dont get hurt and I can vent.Of course they do, and that's the problem.

It was (or is) always going to be the problem, if say for instance one member of your group pisses off another he/she will take it to open forum.

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:49 pm

Pinky;476670 wrote:

My feeling is that whoever has been copying and pasting private stuff to others is trying to get certain people dropped in the doodah.

You might be absolutley right about that. And its a real shame. Too bad we can't all co-exist here.

You know there are 3 people in here that I dont see eye to eye with and quite frankly we just dont like eachother. The first, I have had ONE nasty exchange with a year ago, the second has been ONE nasty exchange a few weeks ago and the third, well, we have had several exchanges and for the last few weeks we have avoided eachother. Now they avoid me. I avoid them. If I see something they post I can answer too, I do, with no hidden meaning, no snide remark, etc. If one of them happens to say something snide, I ignore it now. Its that easy.

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:51 pm

abbey;476669 wrote:

It was (or is) always going to be the problem, if say for instance one member of your group pisses off another he/she will take it to open forum.

I think its only a problem when someone has to run back and tattle. And bringing it to the board is lame.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:54 pm

DesignerGal;476679 wrote: I think its only a problem when someone has to run back and tattle. And bringing it to the board is lame.
I agree, but it's always gonna be there, can you 100% trust everyone?

I know i can't.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:55 pm

DesignerGal;476679 wrote: I think its only a problem when someone has to run back and tattle. And bringing it to the board is lame.

Got milk ?

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:01 pm

Nomad;476683 wrote: Got milk ?

Dont be an evil, betraying, sanctimonious leper with these insane remarks. Of course Ive got milk. I ahve to drink it with my medecine otherwise I get diarrhea.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:07 pm

DesignerGal;476687 wrote: Dont be an evil, betraying, sanctimonious leper with these insane remarks. Of course Ive got milk. I ahve to drink it with my medecine otherwise I get diarrhea.

Im pm ing everyone I know with that.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:12 pm

When is the line crossed?

When someone betrays trust....when someone starts trouble for malicious purposes...when someone plots revenge for past "slights," using the emotions of others who have no knowledge of the "real" agenda... when someone attracts trolls from other boards to back up their plan, etc. When someone who HAS an agenda (even a commercial one) deliberately stirs a pot which, left alone, might cool.

These are instances of "when the line is crossed."

As someone who HAS no agenda for/against anyone who posts here, I've been truly sickened at the perfidy and deviousness I've seen this past week.

There are some posters here who should be ashamed of themselves...I'm certainly ashamed of them. You know who you are, whether or not you admit it publicly. Your position of moral and intellectual superiority is ludicrous.

When I first came to FG, I was impressed by the good feelings and fellowship I thought I'd found.

Silly me.

Luckily, there are far more people of good intentions and meaning than those few who lurk in resentment and live only to prove their "superior intellect" and verbosity. Those are the ones who make this forum worth time and attention.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:14 pm

Lulu2;476691 wrote: When is the line crossed?

When someone betrays trust....when someone starts trouble for malicious purposes...when someone plots revenge for past "slights," using the emotions of others who have no knowledge of the "real" agenda... when someone attracts trolls from other boards to back up their plan, etc. When someone who HAS an agenda (even a commercial one) deliberately stirs a pot which, left alone, might cool.

These are instances of "when the line is crossed."

As someone who HAS no agenda for/against anyone who posts here, I've been truly sickened at the perfidy and deviousness I've seen this past week.

There are some posters here who should be ashamed of themselves...I'm certainly ashamed of them. You know who you are, whether or not you admit it publicly. Your position of moral and intellectual superiority is ludicrous.

When I first came to FG, I was impressed by the good feelings and fellowship I thought I'd found.

Silly me.

Luckily, there are far more people of good intentions and meaning than those few who lurk in resentment and live only to prove their "superior intellect" and verbosity. Those are the ones who make this forum worth time and attention.

Im guessing your a group member then.

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:15 pm

Lulu2;476691 wrote: When is the line crossed?

When someone betrays trust....when someone starts trouble for malicious purposes...when someone plots revenge for past "slights," using the emotions of others who have no knowledge of the "real" agenda... when someone attracts trolls from other boards to back up their plan, etc. When someone who HAS an agenda (even a commercial one) deliberately stirs a pot which, left alone, might cool.

These are instances of "when the line is crossed."

As someone who HAS no agenda for/against anyone who posts here, I've been truly sickened at the perfidy and deviousness I've seen this past week.

There are some posters here who should be ashamed of themselves...I'm certainly ashamed of them. You know who you are, whether or not you admit it publicly. Your position of moral and intellectual superiority is ludicrous.

When I first came to FG, I was impressed by the good feelings and fellowship I thought I'd found.

Silly me.

Luckily, there are far more people of good intentions and meaning than those few who lurk in resentment and live only to prove their "superior intellect" and verbosity. Those are the ones who make this forum worth time and attention.

Well said.

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:16 pm

Nomad;476692 wrote: Im guessing your a group member then.

:eek: :yh_shame