Obama's gonna win!!!

Hope6 · Post by **Hope6** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:25 pm

NBC news is now predicting that Obama has won the presidency.

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:29 pm

Hope6;1046192 wrote: NBC news is now predicting that Obama has won the presidency.

I just listened to Senator McCain's concession speech.

devist8me · Post by **devist8me** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:40 pm

spot;1046194 wrote: I just listened to Senator McCain's concession speech.

Me too. What didja think?

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:42 pm

devist8me;1046206 wrote: Me too. What didja think?

Apart from his throwing in the bit about the black solidarity vote? He did a fine job against a very partisan crowd who didn't want to hear what he was saying. I do hope he goes home and shuts up now, his voice needs a rest.

devist8me · Post by **devist8me** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:44 pm

spot;1046207 wrote: . I do hope he goes home and shuts up now, his voice needs a rest.

Ha...He mentioned that too. I'm ready to have all this crap off the tv, internet, radio, newspapers and especially, MY PHONE

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:08 pm

I'm listening to Senator Obama discussing Senator McCain in his acceptance speech, about him being a selfless defender of the nation in time of need. I'd thought he was an indiscriminate killer of civilians, maybe I misunderstood the consequences of bombing Hanoi.

So, America, you killed one President Hussein and the consequence of doing it is a destroyed Republican party and a President Hussein all of your own. He's a far better man than you deserve.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:34 pm

Well I think what's left is for us, as American citizens, is to back the man and help create a perfect state of equality throughout the known world and to not just think we know what is moral and just, but to know what is moral and just because the former just quite simply isn't good enough.

I thought Obama's speech was nothing shy of brilliant, and I think the United States of America has elected the right man to be the next President of the United States of America, and I give the man all my support and undivided attention.

Well done America. Let's say well done in 4 years!!!!!!!

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:46 pm

K.Snyder;1046237 wrote: Well I think what's left is for us, as American citizens, is to back the man and help create a perfect state of equality throughout the known world and to not just think we know what is moral and just, but to know what is moral and just because the former just quite simply isn't good enough.

I thought Obama's speech was nothing shy of brilliant, and I think the United States of America has elected the right man to be the next President of the United States of America, and I give the man all my support and undivided attention.

Well done America. Let's say well done in 4 years!!!!!!!

Obama is starting off with quite a mess the clean up. I hope he is up to it. But I agree that we have to stand behind him. I dont really think it is possible to create a perfect state of equality throughout the world....given all the different governments and cultures. The cultures of the world are, in many cases, far too different to work in harmony and create a perfect world. Its a nice thought though and maybe something close to acceptable can be created. Americans, at this point, are going to expect Obama to give priority to Americans....that is the current mood in our country. Our country needs much work and I dont think Americans are going to sit still for any president giving much attention to a global agenda. Maybe later after we fix up our country.

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:48 pm

Purely for the record, may I quote the current tags to this thread so they never get forgotten?

barack obama,

election 2008,

numpty obama,

obama,

obama is going to win,

obama loser!,

obama to win yayThat's what America's up against. Partisan drivel as opposed to rational compromise.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:57 pm

wildhorses;1046246 wrote: I dont really think it is possible to create a perfect state of equality throughout the world....given all the different governments and cultures. The cultures of the world are, in many cases, far too different to work in harmony and create a perfect world. Its a nice thought though and maybe something close to acceptable can be created. Then I won't die a happy man!

wildhorses;1046246 wrote:

Americans, at this point, are going to expect Obama to give priority to Americans....that is the current mood in our country. Our country needs much work and I dont think Americans are going to sit still for any president giving much attention to a global agenda. Maybe later after we fix up our country.

What our country needs is the best perspective known to man kind of actual worth. Once this is achieved we can begin to not only give endless career opportunities to Americans but everyone in the world at the same time. This is achieved by having the need to misunderstand "class" all together.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:46 pm

K.Snyder;1046252 wrote: Then I won't die a happy man!

What our country needs is the best perspective known to man kind of actual worth. Once this is achieved we can begin to not only give endless career opportunities to Americans but everyone in the world at the same time. This is achieved by having the need to misunderstand "class" all together.

That will work if Americans see their own opportunities increase. But I think everyone is kind of sick of trying to bring up the whole globe while the american worker falls into the abyss. Enough of that. Americans are going to expect some action from this president. No more bs. They are going to expect him to be an AMERICAN president.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:49 pm

wildhorses;1046267 wrote: That will work if Americans see their own opportunities increase. But I think everyone is kind of sick of trying to bring up the whole globe while the american worker falls into the abyss. Enough of that. Americans are going to expect some action from this president. No more bs. They are going to expect him to be an AMERICAN president.

Well, personally America's standards are way above everyone else's so it's only natural for me to expect more from them even in America's economy today.

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:50 pm

Does America have enough troops within the Homeland to guarantee its borders and security?

He can start by firing all the rest then, that'd be a good beginning.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:52 pm

Although i wanted McCain to win and i still say Obama will be an inefficiant President, i will say,

CONGRATULATIONS TO BARACK OBAMA

GOOD LUCK AMERICA......... I HOPE HE LIVES UP TO THE EXPECTATIONS.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:00 am

oscar;1046270 wrote: Although i wanted McCain to win and i still say Obama will be an inefficiant President, i will say,

CONGRATULATIONS TO BARACK OBAMA

GOOD LUCK AMERICA......... I HOPE HE LIVES UP TO THE EXPECTATIONS.

I'm waiting to see what he's going to do next...

The man's speech has inspired me...

I hope they don't shoot the son of a bitch.

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:00 am

K.Snyder;1046268 wrote: Well, personally America's standards are way above everyone else's so it's only natural for me to expect more from them even in America's economy today.

Fair enough. But the American government should serve it's own people first. Once that is done then it is ok to help others. Here is my analogy: Would you feed someone else's kids while your kids starve? Or would you feed your own kids first and then feed others kids once that is done?

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:03 am

oscar;1046270 wrote: Although i wanted McCain to win and i still say Obama will be an inefficiant President, i will say,

CONGRATULATIONS TO BARACK OBAMA

GOOD LUCK AMERICA......... I HOPE HE LIVES UP TO THE EXPECTATIONS.

Thank you oscar. I hope Obama can live up to his promises...and his speech. It really was a good speech.

And thanks for the "good luck" wish for us. We need some luck right now.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:05 am

wildhorses;1046274 wrote: Fair enough. But the American government should serve it's own people first. Once that is done then it is ok to help others. Here is my analogy: Would you feed someone else's kids while your kids starve? Or would you feed your own kids first and then feed others kids once that is done?

I wouldn't have children unless I were 100% certain I could provide for them so I'm going to have to answer the question subjectively...

But I would provide for my children before I were to make any other virtue of mine prominent, but I'd do it fighting a system that charges way too much money for the necessities I need to survive stressing the blatant fact such an abysmal ideology is at the expense of the impoverished. <-----I'm not yelling at you, I'm yelling at them...:wah:...

:yh_bigsmi...

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:06 am

wildhorses;1046275 wrote: Thank you oscar. I hope Obama can live up to his promises...and his speech. It really was a good speech.

And thanks for the "good luck" wish for us. We need some luck right now.

It was close..... 3% so far i believe.

I hope he lives up to his promises.

GREAT BRITAIN IS THINKING OF YOU ALL IN AMERICA

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:08 am

oscar;1046277 wrote: GREAT BRITAIN IS THINKING OF YOU ALL IN AMERICA

Oh. Well, that's thoughtful. Thank you. <--------I'm learning me grammar. How'd I do? :wah:...

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:11 am

K.Snyder;1046279 wrote: Oh. Well, that's thoughtful. Thank you.

We will have you writing perfect English grammar by Christmas :wah::wah:

WELL DOWN

Post by **Ally** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:12 am

Good luck America hope he does a good job and lives upto every americans expectation.All the best from Australia. Im visiting ur great country in dec looking forward to it.:-6

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:12 am

K.Snyder;1046276 wrote: I wouldn't have children unless I were 100% certain I could provide for them so I'm going to have to answer the question subjectively...

But I would provide for my children before I were to make any other virtue of mine prominent, but I'd do it fighting a system that charges way too much money for the necessities I need to survive stressing the blatant fact such an abysmal ideology is at the expense of the impoverished.

:yh_bigsmi...

I agree. And it is nice to have enough to be able to help others. But it is not ok to help others at the expense of your own. And it's really kind of tragic when it comes to a point that a choice has to be made at all. Unfortunately, we are currently faced with that choice. I do agree with your protest against such an inadequate system.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:18 am

wildhorses;1046283 wrote: I agree. And it is nice to have enough to be able to help others. But it is not ok to help others at the expense of your own. And it's really kind of tragic when it comes to a point that a choice has to be made at all. Unfortunately, we are currently faced with that choice. I do agree with your protest against such an inadequate system.

Establishing citizens from government is always good no matter what. It sets precedent.

But yes, I despise the "rich".

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:22 am

Ally;1046282 wrote: Good luck America hope he does a good job and lives upto every americans expectation.All the best from Australia. Im visiting ur great country in dec looking forward to it.:-6

Thanks for nice sentiment. And I hope you have a great time in USA. We are looking forward to having you!!

wildhorses · Post by **wildhorses** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:25 am

K.Snyder;1046285 wrote: Establishing citizens from government is always good no matter what. It sets precedent.

But yes, I despise the "rich".

me too.

They make my stomach churn.

Post by **Ally** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:34 am

Thanks Wildhorses.:-6

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:55 am

spot;1046229 wrote: I'm listening to Senator Obama discussing Senator McCain in his acceptance speech, about him being a selfless defender of the nation in time of need. I'd thought he was an indiscriminate killer of civilians, maybe I misunderstood the consequences of bombing Hanoi.

So, America, you killed one President Hussein and the consequence of doing it is a destroyed Republican party and a President Hussein all of your own. He's a far better man than you deserve.Yeh? Well, phuck you too. :yh_flag

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:12 am

spot;1046229 wrote: I'm listening to Senator Obama discussing Senator McCain in his acceptance speech, about him being a selfless defender of the nation in time of need. I'd thought he was an indiscriminate killer of civilians, maybe I misunderstood the consequences of bombing Hanoi.

So, America, you killed one President Hussein and the consequence of doing it is a destroyed Republican party and a President Hussein all of your own. He's a far better man than you deserve.

For all of the pride you take in displaying your knowledge, you really dont know that much after all do you ?

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:48 am

Nomad;1046377 wrote: For all of the pride you take in displaying your knowledge, you really dont know that much after all do you ?

About Senator McCain killing civilians in Hanoi? Did he not? We used to pitchfork Luftwaffe aircrew who bailed out over Kent for exactly that.

About President Bush spending a trillion and a half of America's hard-earned dollars and the good health of thirty thousand or so US troops so he could kill the man who taunted his daddy? Did he not?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:52 am

Now Obama has won...... Don't you guys forget to fully inflate your tyres!! Well, that's the energy crisis solved....... What next Obama?????:wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:38 am

spot;1046611 wrote: About Senator McCain killing civilians in Hanoi? Did he not? We used to pitchfork Luftwaffe aircrew who bailed out over Kent for exactly that.

About President Bush spending a trillion and a half of America's hard-earned dollars and the good health of thirty thousand or so US troops so he could kill the man who taunted his daddy? Did he not?

So prickly spot, so prickly. :rolleyes:

McCain hasn't won, I know you wanted him to so that Amercia would get deeper into the trouble its in now, but maybe the Yanks have more sense than you ascribe to them, particularly the ordinary people. As I have said many times before, you dismiss the ability of the Americans to re-invent themselves and do the right thing in the end at your peril.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:45 pm

JAB;1046759 wrote: Yeah, poor Spot. Whatever will he have to complain about now. :rolleyes:

:wah: I'm sure he'll find lots :wah:

Post by **spot** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:46 pm

Me???

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:12 pm

spot;1046854 wrote: Me???

I see no other Spots before my eyes :p

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:30 am

JAB;1046759 wrote: Yeah, poor Spot. Whatever will he have to complain about now. :rolleyes:

Yes, he will find it hard to make hay now that Bush has gone, there is one service Obama has already done you, for free! :wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:48 am

Galbally;1047398 wrote: Yes, he will find it hard to make hay now that Bush has gone, there is one service Obama has already done you, for free! :wah:

Hang on my little Leprechaun, Bush and Cheyney are not out until january. There's plenty for Spot to continue with. Then after January, we have an even bigger idiot to critisize. I can't wait for the moment he tells America to lay down their guns and make sure their tyres are inflated properly :wah::wah:

As for withdrawing from Iraq?????????

I may have missed something but i don't hear Gordon Brown echoing this policy. Looks like Britain's on it's own again then :wah:

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:08 am

oscar;1047552 wrote: Hang on my little Leprechaun, Bush and Cheyney are not out until january. There's plenty for Spot to continue with. Then after January, we have an even bigger idiot to critisize. I can't wait for the moment he tells America to lay down their guns and make sure their tyres are inflated properly :wah::wah:

As for withdrawing from Iraq?????????

I may have missed something but i don't hear Gordon Brown echoing this policy. Looks like Britain's on it's own again then :wah:

Don't worry, after today he may not last long as leader of the labour party. If the SNP win in Glenrothes labour is going to start panicking. He may in fact be out of parliament altogether. Bye bye Gordon.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:31 am

spot;1046611 wrote: About Senator McCain killing civilians in Hanoi? Did he not? We used to pitchfork Luftwaffe aircrew who bailed out over Kent for exactly that.

About President Bush spending a trillion and a half of America's hard-earned dollars and the good health of thirty thousand or so US troops so he could kill the man who taunted his daddy? Did he not?

It was the you dont desrve him reference to Obama Jughead.

Your snideness came at a most inopportune moment when what was called for was a simple good luck.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:47 am

gmc;1047566 wrote: Don't worry, after today he may not last long as leader of the labour party. If the SNP win in Glenrothes labour is going to start panicking. He may in fact be out of parliament altogether. Bye bye Gordon.

You mock now, oh Scottish haggis party of one.

From what i've been reading (NO, not just the Daily Mail), it tells me that Labour is gaining in the polls and supporters of the SNP will be having a shock result in Glenrothes very shortly.

You say 'He MAY in fact be out of parliment altogether' May being the arguable question for you. I notice, your not brave enough to say 'WILL' be out of Parliment.

Not bye bye Gordon...... More.. Welcome to Glenrothes Mr Brown, please can we kiss your feet??

Do you want to bet some of your wages from the haggis factory on that outcome?? :wah::wah:

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:02 am

Accountable;1044508 wrote: [quote=Nomad;1043747]I don't think I have spelled it out that explicitly. I am pretty rigid. I'll do all I can to help when I can, such as with the Katrina evacuation. It is very rewarding to help others. What chaps me is the idea of a centralized national program ostensibly designed to help those who need it. Such a bureaucracy begs for abuse and wastes far more tax dollars than it spends wisely. There is far more compassion and dignity in face-to-face assistance than in a FEMA-style 'take a number' system, and the chances are tremendously higher that the people that need help will get it and those who would abuse the system will be shown the door.

Is it fair to assume your lack of vocal outrage at the US acting as a welfare state towards other nations is a show of support ?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:19 am

[quote=Nomad;1047594Is it fair to assume your lack of vocal outrage at the US acting as a welfare state towards other nations is a show of support ?
I dunno about fair but it's inaccurate. I don't support dependence. TBH I'm not sure how much welfare we're providing to other countries now; I haven't researched it. I do know just from being stationed in Japan that the Japanese gov't pays a large portion of our expenses to have our military on their land. How much of a portion, I don't know, but it does make us look like hired guns.

I'd prefer that the gov't get out of the charity game altogether because they use it as a political weapon, putting all kinds of strings on any offers of aid. If people need help they need it; if they don't, they don't. Food shouldn't be a bargaining chip. Cut our taxes by however much is in the budget for charity and let us do that ourselves. Just because other nations rely on their governments to provide charity doesn't mean we have to. We can do it better, cheaper, with less bureaucracy and fewer strings.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:21 am

Nomad;1047576 wrote: It was the you don't deserve him reference to Obama Jugghead.

Your snideness came at a most inopportune moment when what was called for was a simple good luck.
Far more eloquent and nice than what I would have written. :yh_clap

Post by **Peter Lake** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:23 am

gmc;1047566 wrote: Don't worry, after today he may not last long as leader of the labour party. If the SNP win in Glenrothes labour is going to start panicking. He may in fact be out of parliament altogether. Bye bye Gordon.

Hi gmc Mr Oscar here.

Help me out will you old chap?? Please please, do not get my wife started on the Glenrothes election.

Trust me, i will be the one to suffer.

I have had months of McCain this and Obama that.

I also suffer daily from Gordon Brown this, Cameron that.

If she gets started on the SNP and Labour, i will just have to go and kill myself. I suffer enough.

Many thanks

Mr Oscar