Never Liked Soap Operas

crazygal · Post by **crazygal** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:41 am

jimbo;568523 wrote: whats soberego got to do with it leave him alone :wah:

Nothing as he actually IS funny.

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:57 am

Yeah, well, flopstock, you and I rarely see things the same way.

Administrators usually see goodbye threads as trolling. (Admin Zone)

FGs administrator is generally really tolerant. A lot of boards delete them shortly after they appear.

crazygal · Post by **crazygal** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:07 am

Shame they don't here or ast least lock them.

crazygal · Post by **crazygal** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:11 am

Pinky;568648 wrote: A while back I started a thread asking people what they thought had changed, and is it really that different these days?

This was in reaction to the amount of whining going on about the good old days. Apart from a change in regular posters, I can't see that it's changed that much, there are fun times, slow times, there will always be someone you don't like much and people you get on with like a house on fire.

It's human nature for people to get fed up about this or that, but at the end of the day no-one is forcing anyone to read things that annoy them, or even stick around. I always think it's sad when someone decides to delete their account because even though that person might be missed, everything else carries on regardless anyway. So, if you want to see change, why not be a part of it and make it happen? You can't do that once you've left.

Very very true. Seems a lot of people start threads here but there are other forums where members complain that threads are boring yet never start any themselves. At least things are kept moving here.

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:11 am

another observation is when someone leaves due to another person bothering them, that person leaves as well...as said MANY times before...life continues on..

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:14 am

crazygal;568653 wrote: Very very true. Seems a lot of people start threads here but there are other forums where members complain that threads are boring yet never start any themselves. At least things are kept moving here.

oh yeah

dont call soberano funny he is my mate ,:-3

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:17 am

Pinky;568659 wrote: Why do people give in to that crapola?

I'd bother them back to within an inch of their sad lives!!

People can only bother you if you let yourself be bothered.

oh thank you katherin tate

am i bothered

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:20 am

Pinky;568659 wrote: Why do people give in to that crapola?

I'd bother them back to within an inch of their sad lives!!

People can only bother you if you let yourself be bothered.

that really bothered me....:wah:

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:26 am

WonderWendy3;568665 wrote: that really bothered me....:wah:

i have been told off by sue i'm not allowed to be funny with cgal till she picks on me

butt az i siad earieer livve and led livv

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:46 am

There is nothing we can individually do to change a board to make it more likable for anyone. All that is accomplished by saying they don't like FG anymore is to make people upset. Nobody can fix it. We can't even rally everyone to fix it. So the point is moot.

Anyone wanting to say "thanks for the good times" can say it in a pleasant way.

Usually PMs are the best way to avoid conflict.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:48 am

koan;568696 wrote: There is nothing we can individually do to change a board to make it more likable for anyone. All that is accomplished by saying they don't like FG anymore is to make people upset. Nobody can fix it. We can't even rally everyone to fix it. So the point is moot.

Anyone wanting to say "thanks for the good times" can say it in a pleasant way.

Usually PMs are the best way to avoid conflict.

you are totally right koan but whats your point your holding up a good thread here with your constant interuptions:D

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:26 am

What was this thread about again?

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:37 am

It's about wanting to say "Thanks for the insult" :rolleyes: every time someone says all the "good" people have left FG.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:44 am

koan;568758 wrote: It's about wanting to say "Thanks for the insult" :rolleyes: every time someone says all the "good" people have left FG.

there are some very good people that are here koan,i miss hammy but i hope she will come back , i have had a look round there is no place like f g ,believe me :-6

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:48 am

Sure, there are people we miss.

I particularly like the way Hamster dealt with saying goodbye.

I hope she returns too.

I do think that posting them in an area where people can't reply is probably the best route though. Nothing stops anyone from PMing in response.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:04 pm

I always feel it sad when someone does it, it's so final.

And yes, i have to agree, sometimes can be bloody insulting to all left behind.

When i go i shall just fade into the arcade never to be seen again.

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:06 pm

flopstock;568779 wrote:

And I didn't read your OP as anything other then a request for my views on the topic. So, how admins across the universe view goodbye threads is not really germane here.

Funny, because your first post here implied you read a lot more into the OP, including that I don't give a "rat's ass" about people.

I do thank you for staying on topic though.

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:18 pm

Soberano;568798 wrote: Maybe stick a poll at the beginning of this thread Koan. Three options about the dear John's, right, wrong or don't cares. It would be interesting to read the results.

Can't do that on an edit.

We might decide what the selections should be.

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:20 pm

flopstock;568799 wrote: Oh- quite true(only certain folks mind you), but I considered that part of your original topic and therefore open to comment.

Then you should also consider what administrators in general think of goodbye threads as part of the original topic for consideration as well.

It actually is quite relevant.

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:33 pm

I'm not going to argue the point with you.

I simply disagree.

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:20 am

Soberano;568811 wrote: When i go i shall leave an instruction with the undertaker to say goodbye for me.

Duely noted.

Would you like my business card?:sneaky:

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:23 am

Imladris;569263 wrote: Duely noted.

Would you like my business card?:sneaky:

dead pan humour :wah:

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:41 am

Soberano;569286 wrote: No flowers or fuss at my burning. Old teacrate and a bottle of brandy, total cost £18. Profit to greedy undertaker zilch.

why waste the brandy :wah:

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:52 am

Soberano;569286 wrote: No flowers or fuss at my burning. Old teacrate and a bottle of brandy, total cost £18. Profit to greedy undertaker zilch.

that's fine, but have you considered recycling? You could just be composted, wheel you to the tip in a wheelbarrow - no cost at all!!

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:55 am

I have no opinion on the goodbye threads. What I have not liked are the threads from older members whining about how all the older members are leaving to be replaced by the newer members as that seems a slap in the face to the newer ones.

Having said that I don't appreciate new people coming here and acting like jackasses in what is still essentially to them, "our" home. Sorry you don't make the rules. But you do have to follow them. We donot need to put up with immature insults from people we didn't invite here.

That's how I feel about both sides of the coin.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:00 am

Soberano;569291 wrote: The brandy is just to get the fire going.

unleaded is cheaper :wah: but i'm not wasting matches

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:06 pm

crazygal;568529 wrote: Three? OMG. Now tell me that Mods aren't needed to merge or lock threads people!

Mods are not needed to merge or lock threads.

Not on FG at any rate.

DesignerGal · Post by **DesignerGal** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:21 pm

RedGlitter;569304 wrote: I have no opinion on the goodbye threads. What I have not liked are the threads from older members whining about how all the older members are leaving to be replaced by the newer members as that seems a slap in the face to the newer ones.

Having said that I don't appreciate new people coming here and acting like jackasses in what is still essentially to them, "our" home. Sorry you don't make the rules. But you do have to follow them. We donot need to put up with immature insults from people we didn't invite here.

That's how I feel about both sides of the coin.

But you (or older members) dont either.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:41 pm

DesignerGal;569867 wrote: But you (or older members) dont either.

but tradition and usage do - in any society.

In Rant and Rave it is normal and accepted to flame people.

In MJNO (apparently) heavy moderation is normal and accepted

Neither of these are normal or accepted in the society of FG. As with any society, this might well change over time but for anyone to come in and expect to change the prevailing mores would be rudeness.

No one person or group of people make the rules of a society (subject to the edicts of King Tombstone), the society evolves as the sum of its members, environment and history.

So "Having said that I don't appreciate new people coming here and acting like jackasses in what is still essentially to them, "our" home. Sorry you don't make the rules. But you do have to follow them." is a fairly good (if blunt) summation of the situation.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:47 pm

Thanks Bryn, that was a far better response than I could have given to DG. And also entirely what I had meant too.

Post by **spot** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:49 pm

flopstock;568807 wrote: I think that if our administrator began limiting(aside from legal requirements) what folks can talk about on here topic wise, it would be a very very bad thing for this place. You can find that 'general consensus view' toward exit threads and other topics on other, less successful forums.Then perhaps we could bring together the various ideas this thread's brought out so far and link them somehow to a self-delete option which isn't enabled at the moment but which might reduce the prolonged departure threads we've seen in the past. People want to be able to leave at will, people want to leave an indelible note of their attitude as they go, people don't want to read rancorous discussions about proposed imminent departures. I suggest a sticky non-closing poll which permanently displays all users who vote, and what choice they vote for, titled "vote here and leave" in which casting a vote triggers an instant automated account deletion as the only self-deletion mechanism on the site. Here's a possible set of poll options:

I'm no longer what I was and leaving will improve your livesYou're no longer what you were and leaving will improve my lifeMy friend left and I'm so annoyed that I'm leaving in protest

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:50 pm

spot;569905 wrote: Here's a possible set of poll options:

I'm no longer what I was and leaving will improve your livesYou're no longer what you were and leaving will improve my lifeMy friend left and I'm so annoyed that I'm leaving in protest

:yh_rotfl

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:19 pm

This is a public forum, where people are free to rave on a bit. T his thread already contains a number of different views, all expressed within Tombstone's terms of what is allowable. All good. I'd hate to have anyone feel they are unable to say what they think, even if what they want to present is a soap opera type goodbye, complete with doorslam.. ( or a soap opera hello or ongoing chatter complete with pop music or hyperactive homers). Tastes differ. I'm against censorship.

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:41 pm

almostfamous;570443 wrote: This I agree with the most and if I'm ever being a total a$$ I would hope that if it bothered someone enough they'd attempt

to put me in my place so that I didn't weed up the garden with nonsense.

Well, now that you bring it up...it hurt me that you called me the B--word!!:(