falling off of the wagon

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:19 pm

Bryn Mawr;1214355 wrote: It becomes an illness when chemical changes take place in the neuroreceptors of the brain that permanently alter a persons reaction to alcohol.

Alcoholism is not a lack of willpower - functioning alcoholics have the willpower to restrain their addiction and recovering alcoholics have the willpower to control it but they are still alcoholics and will be for the rest of their lives.

You can be a regular drinker and not be an alcoholic - it is not the frequency with which you drink but the bodies reaction to the alcohol.

It is not a psychological condition but a physiological illness.

thanks for the reply bryn :-6

that does seem to be the case

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:22 pm

Well Jim,

I am not going to argue symantics here, but I do believe that alcohol, cigarettes and chocolate are very addictive to people who have a propensity towards the chemicals in these materials/foods.

I honestly don't know if it's a disease since people are still debating the issue. However, I do feel that addictions are not necessarily due to a person's lack of will power, but also to heredity.

There's a connection between genetics and addiction to alcohol and drugs.

I do believe that drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes are addictive. Addiction is an illness that sometimes develops the same way other illnesses develop.

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:24 pm

Kathy Ellen;1214363 wrote: Well Jim,

I am not going to argue symantics here, but I do believe that alcohol, cigarettes and chocolate are very addictive to people who have a propensity towards the chemicals in these materials/foods.

I honestly don't know if it's a disease since people are still debating the issue. However, I do feel that addictions are not necessarily due to a person's lack of will power, but also to heredity.

There's a connection between genetics and addiction to alcohol and drugs.

I do believe that drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes are addictive. Addiction is an illness that sometimes develops the same way other illnesses develop.

have you not heard of the illness chocoholic

:D

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:24 pm

has any one heard from her

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:27 pm

farmer giles;1214369 wrote: have you not heard of the illness chocoholic

:D

that would be me.:-5

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:34 pm

farmer giles;1214369 wrote: have you not heard of the illness chocoholic

:D

Jim,

Chocolate is addictive. It has chemicals in it that trigger our mood for comfort, pleasure and sex.

If you don't want any of these moods, then have some chocolate and wait for 20 minutes until having the next piece of chocolate. It takes 20 minutes for the brain to react to the delights of chocolate.

Why do you think that we give our mates chocolate for Valentine's Day hunnnn:p....gets them all spiced up;)

Barman · Post by **Barman** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:41 pm

Kathy Ellen;1214385 wrote: Jim,

Chocolate is addictive. It has chemicals in it that trigger our mood for comfort, pleasure and sex.

If you don't want any of these moods, then have some chocolate and wait for 20 minutes until having the next piece of chocolate. It takes 20 minutes for the brain to react to the delights of chocolate.

Why do you think that we give our mates chocolate for Valentine's Day hunnnn:p....gets them all spiced up;)

Blimey, i gave up any hint of chocolate months and months ago. If wifey slips a little of the old Caramac in my coffee she had better watch out.:yh_rotfl

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:46 pm

Barman;1214392 wrote: Blimey, i gave up any hint of chocolate months and months ago. If wifey slips a little of the old Caramac in my coffee she had better watch out.:yh_rotfl

Barman...hello

Put it in your wife's coffee also....love is in the air then for both of you. :wah:

Barman · Post by **Barman** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:49 pm

Kathy Ellen;1214396 wrote: Barman...hello

Put it in your wife's coffee also....love is in the air then for both of you. :wah:

Bugger that, i have already showered tonight.:yh_rotfl

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:53 pm

Barman;1214398 wrote: Bugger that, i have already showered tonight.:yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:53 pm

Barman;1214398 wrote: Bugger that, i have already showered tonight.:yh_rotfl

Ahhhh, you're a little bugger there aren't ya Barman...

Run out and buy some more chocolate.....You can always have another shower;)

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:56 pm

Kathy Ellen;1214404 wrote: Ahhhh, you're a little bugger there aren't ya Barman...

Run out and buy some more chocolate.....You can always have another shower;)

steady kathy he can run and get some more chocolate or he can make love ,he cant do both and even then the shower will have to wait till morning :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Barman · Post by **Barman** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:58 pm

farmer giles;1214406 wrote: steady kathy he can run and get some more chocolate or he can make love ,he cant do both and even then the shower will have to wait till morning :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Tis OK, i have passed her in a bar of chocolate and told her to carry on without me. Nail gun on ebay is much more important.:yh_rotfl

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:05 pm

Barman;1214407 wrote: Tis OK, i have passed her in a bar of chocolate and told her to carry on without me. Nail gun on ebay is much more important.:yh_rotfl

mate when she said come to bed and nail me :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:06 pm

dammit that will teach me i'm being dragged off to bed :-5:-5

night all

Barman · Post by **Barman** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:06 pm

farmer giles;1214413 wrote: mate when she said come to bed and nail me :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl Stopped her tongue from wagging, nailed it to the roof of her mouth.:yh_rotfl