Don't want that job --- don't worry

[nvalleyvee]

I sub quite a bit in the special ed class at the HS. The reasoning behind having a consistant sub is that I get to know the kids and they get to trust me. It is hard to treat kids with the mental IQ of a 4-5 year old and the body of a teenager. These kids have real anger and stubborn problems. The object of this class is get them as independent as possible. Teach them basic skills - social and personal. So what happened today - I did another paid aides job and did it in 15 minutes rather than 2 hours. The aide felt like I took her job - which I have to add consists of talking to her friends for 3 of the 7 hours she is there a day. i guess that belongs on the "mad" thread.

Ok now get THIS.......there are 2 full time teachers and 4 teacher's aides for 12 students. It is very difficult to handle more than 2 of these students at a time. The school is required to take them to regular classes and for every 2 mentally challenged students you have to have 1 teacher person.

Now I am going to sound really nasty and soooo politically incorrect BUT there are about 900 students at the HS, each teacher handles about 100 students a day - 1 teacher. There are 2 teachers and 4 aides for 12 special ed kids. I have subbed for classes that have 28 kids and that is tooooooo many kids for 1 teacher. Ok enough said.

[Penelope_Pitstop]

I don't know anything about teaching, however I do know that the problem is here also ... too many students and not enough teachers for the general population.

In some cases, there are two teachers for a group of 20 students, just because they are gymnasts. I am a mentor to a 13-year-old young lady and the Principal told me this just the other day ... I really find it wrong.

I take my hat off to you, being a teacher is alongside being a nurse, two of the hardest jobs any person could undertake.

[BabyRider]

Penelope_Pitstop wrote: I take my hate off to you,
That's got to be one of the coolest, and most Freudian typos I've ever seen.

[Penelope_Pitstop]

Oops ... my poor old addled brain is thinking about too many things at once.

[Penelope_Pitstop]

SnoozeControl wrote: I swear, I'm not picking on you, but did you mean to type gymasts? I'm not sure what that is.


Work it out, you are a clever girl :-4 ... of course you aren't picking on me, its so unlike you to pick on anybody's typing errors.

[Accountable]

All right, people! Settle down and focus.



In adult education, the ideal is 12-15 students per class to facilitate interaction. I agree 28 kids is an impossible number if you want to be sure everyone 'gets it'.

[chonsigirl]

Well NV, think of me-I have those kids in my class, usually with no aide to even help me control them. I have regular students, and ED and Sp. Ed. kids all mixed into my class. I am the strictest teacher here, otherwise, I couldn't keep control of the classroom. The "inclusion" teachers who should accompany them never show up-I always wonder what they're doing when they shold be working?

[Raven]

out having a smoke........or two. Having worked in a place where they live, they arent worth a pinch of salt. (the adults, not the kids!)

[nvalleyvee]

chonsigirl wrote: Well NV, think of me-I have those kids in my class, usually with no aide to even help me control them. I have regular students, and ED and Sp. Ed. kids all mixed into my class. I am the strictest teacher here, otherwise, I couldn't keep control of the classroom. The "inclusion" teachers who should accompany them never show up-I always wonder what they're doing when they shold be working?


I always show up with the special ed kids. They are only in class to learn socialization skills (except the higher functioning ones). I know the other aides go to the classes but I've been thanked by the room teacher for helping the kids instead of reading a book or talking on my cell phone. When they get disruptive.......it's back to the special ed room we go.