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I sub quite a bit in the special ed class at the HS. The reasoning behind having a consistant sub is that I get to know the kids and they get to trust me. It is hard to treat kids with the mental IQ of a 4-5 year old and the body of a teenager. These kids have real anger and stubborn problems. The object of this class is get them as independent as possible. Teach them basic skills - social and personal. So what happened today - I did another paid aides job and did it in 15 minutes rather than 2 hours. The aide felt like I took her job - which I have to add consists of talking to her friends for 3 of the 7 hours she is there a day. i guess that belongs on the "mad" thread.

Ok now get THIS.......there are 2 full time teachers and 4 teacher's aides for 12 students. It is very difficult to handle more than 2 of these students at a time. The school is required to take them to regular classes and for every 2 mentally challenged students you have to have 1 teacher person.

Now I am going to sound really nasty and soooo politically incorrect BUT there are about 900 students at the HS, each teacher handles about 100 students a day - 1 teacher. There are 2 teachers and 4 aides for 12 special ed kids. I have subbed for classes that have 28 kids and that is tooooooo many kids for 1 teacher. Ok enough said.

I don't know anything about teaching, however I do know that the problem is here also ... too many students and not enough teachers for the general population.

In some cases, there are two teachers for a group of 20 students, just because they are gymnasts. I am a mentor to a 13-year-old young lady and the Principal told me this just the other day ... I really find it wrong.

I take my hat off to you, being a teacher is alongside being a nurse, two of the hardest jobs any person could undertake.

Penelope_Pitstop wrote: I take my hate off to you,
That's got to be one of the coolest, and most Freudian typos I've ever seen.

Oops ... my poor old addled brain is thinking about too many things at once.

SnoozeControl wrote: I swear, I'm not picking on you, but did you mean to type gymasts? I'm not sure what that is.


Work it out, you are a clever girl :-4 ... of course you aren't picking on me, its so unlike you to pick on anybody's typing errors.

All right, people! Settle down and focus.



In adult education, the ideal is 12-15 students per class to facilitate interaction. I agree 28 kids is an impossible number if you want to be sure everyone 'gets it'.

Well NV, think of me-I have those kids in my class, usually with no aide to even help me control them. I have regular students, and ED and Sp. Ed. kids all mixed into my class. I am the strictest teacher here, otherwise, I couldn't keep control of the classroom. The "inclusion" teachers who should accompany them never show up-I always wonder what they're doing when they shold be working?

out having a smoke........or two. Having worked in a place where they live, they arent worth a pinch of salt. (the adults, not the kids!)

chonsigirl wrote: Well NV, think of me-I have those kids in my class, usually with no aide to even help me control them. I have regular students, and ED and Sp. Ed. kids all mixed into my class. I am the strictest teacher here, otherwise, I couldn't keep control of the classroom. The "inclusion" teachers who should accompany them never show up-I always wonder what they're doing when they shold be working?


I always show up with the special ed kids. They are only in class to learn socialization skills (except the higher functioning ones). I know the other aides go to the classes but I've been thanked by the room teacher for helping the kids instead of reading a book or talking on my cell phone. When they get disruptive.......it's back to the special ed room we go.