Immortality is tiring for me...

ANGRYWOLF · Post by **ANGRYWOLF** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:32 pm

as it is for all us werewolves out here..Hi..My real name is Henry but you can call me Angry or Angrywolf....I lost my wife and my mom back in 2001 ..yes the same year..and I suffer from depression....and grief and anger over all of it...my wife died of a heart attack and my mom died of cancer..I know this isn't a grief or depression board so don't worry that I will try to smother you with my problems..I want all of you to be happy out there..as much as your own problems and issues in life will let you be..without my beating you over the head with mine...Just thought you might want to know who I am...

True crime is my one lingering passion in life..I use to read a lot...about science and physics..and history..as welll as science fiction and fantasy...I use to go to conventions..met Stephen King once....I liked him and will always wish him well..but only within the last couple of years have I turned toward reading about true crime.Mostly about murders and serial killers.Silence of the Lambs stuff.I went to a get-together in Nashville back in January and met John Douglas there..and got to see a presentation of his.He worked on several high profile murder cases including the Atlanta Child Murder cases, and the Jon Benet Ramsey case....I go to court tv.com and read about a lot of the cases there and when I have time..I watch forensic shows on court tv, A&E and the Discovery Channel.

I have befriended the family of a murder victim here in Knoxville..Her name was Johnia Berry and she was killed back in Dec. of 2004...I hope the police can catch her killer and bring the family some peace of mind...as far as that is possible...

I have two children..My son is 19..and is causing me major problems..I guess that's just par for the course as far as my life is going right now..Anyway..that's a little about me...

:-1

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:36 pm

Welcome. Top shelf crowd here, treat them right and they will take you in as family. Have fun.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:37 pm

hello and welcome to FG:) ....you'll find i for one share your passion for true crime, and if you check the home page you'll see our crimes and trials area. lots of cases discussed there.

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:39 pm

Welcome angrywolf. Looking forward to your posts!

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:39 pm

Hiya AW, and WOW!!

That's an impressive intro!

Welcome and I'M HAPPY, hope you are too.

Rapunzel · Post by **Rapunzel** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:48 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: Henry , I hope that in some small way your visits here may become a diversion from your problems. There are many wise and wonderful people here. One of them, Ladycop, is at the thick end of real crime herself, she is sure to introduce herself and there are many threads of hers that will doubtless be of interest to you.

Welcome :-6

What Arnold said!

Welcome Henry, I hope you enjoy many diverting strolls through our garden and I hope they help you find a measure of peace. :yh_flower

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:19 pm

ANGRYWOLF wrote: as it is for all us werewolves out here..Hi..My real name is Henry but you can call me Angry or Angrywolf....I lost my wife and my mom back in 2001 ..yes the same year..and I suffer from depression....and grief and anger over all of it...my wife died of a heart attack and my mom died of cancer..I know this isn't a grief or depression board so don't worry that I will try to smother you with my problems..I want all of you to be happy out there..as much as your own problems and issues in life will let you be..without my beating you over the head with mine...Just thought you might want to know who I am...

True crime is my one lingering passion in life..I use to read a lot...about science and physics..and history..as welll as science fiction and fantasy...I use to go to conventions..met Stephen King once....I liked him and will always wish him well..but only within the last couple of years have I turned toward reading about true crime.Mostly about murders and serial killers.Silence of the Lambs stuff.I went to a get-together in Nashville back in January and met John Douglas there..and got to see a presentation of his.He worked on several high profile murder cases including the Atlanta Child Murder cases, and the Jon Benet Ramsey case....I go to court tv.com and read about a lot of the cases there and when I have time..I watch forensic shows on court tv, A&E and the Discovery Channel.

I have befriended the family of a murder victim here in Knoxville..Her name was Johnia Berry and she was killed back in Dec. of 2004...I hope the police can catch her killer and bring the family some peace of mind...as far as that is possible...

I have two children..My son is 19..and is causing me major problems..I guess that's just par for the course as far as my life is going right now..Anyway..that's a little about me...

:-1

I can relate to your loss but not your anger or depression. I too lost a mother and wife in the same year. Wife of Pancreatic Cancer and mother of a Heart Attack. We each have different ways to cope with such a loss and I just chose to get on with life as both my mother and wife would have expected. I never was angry or depressed despite missing them both. I wouldn't think that someone that suffers from depression could benefit from an interest in Serial Killers or Killings. Couldn't it possibly exacerbate your depression? Are you undergoing therapy? My best to you.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:54 pm

Hi Wolf, welcome to FG!:)

King Terry · Post by **King Terry** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:57 pm

Lon wrote: I can relate to your loss but not your anger or depression. I too lost a mother and wife in the same year. Wife of Pancreatic Cancer and mother of a Heart Attack. We each have different ways to cope with such a loss and I just chose to get on with life as both my mother and wife would have expected. I never was angry or depressed despite missing them both. I wouldn't think that someone that suffers from depression could benefit from an interest in Serial Killers or Killings. Couldn't it possibly exacerbate your depression? Are you undergoing therapy? My best to you.

I am sorry to hear of this horrendous loss. Iost my Mother to cancer when I was 26 and a daughter to Hospital incompetence. I could happily have killed the doctor that caused my daughter's death, but she was a student and should not have been there. So who do I blame? I pass my daughters cemetary twice daily and always talk to her. She never leaves my heart. My anger and depression alternate and now my my wife has left with my youngest daughter and my depression has gotten worse, so I come here and places like this act the idiot/moron. It does help. Nothing can be done to change your life. Live each day one at a time and try to find something to enjoy in it. There are lots of fools like me here (sorry), so join in and live in neverland for a few minutes/hours. It really does help.

My sincerest condolences.

ANGRYWOLF · Post by **ANGRYWOLF** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:11 pm

yes Douglas is the ex-FBI profiler..he still does probono work..testifies at parole hearings for victims families when the killer is up for parole..that sort of thing...

Yes been through therapy..didn't find it helpful..won't go back for any more...

My condolenses to you Terry and to you Lon..as Lon plainly said..there are different ways we grieve and as we are different people we handle things differently....Friends really help and I was blessed in having several good friends here who helped me cope....I am ready to help anyone here who needs me if any of you feel I can help you cope, be it with some tragedy in your life or with the pressures and stresses of your life...We are all human...well..some of us are...grin....

I want to thank all of you for the greeting.It must be because there is a full moon tonight...To quote Murrow..."Good night and good luck"......:-1

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:19 pm

Welcome to the garden AW:-6 . I hope your time here will help. It's great therapy and the price is right.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:12 pm

Welcome to FG, Wolf. I hope, as others have said, that you can find some release or maybe escape here, as a lot of us do. We are an extended family and lean on each other a lot when things get tough, and we share each other's happiness when there's good news from one of our members. So I really hope you find some bit of solace here, as there are many willing ears and shoulders. I've needed them, and been them both.

As LC said, she shares your passion for true crime, so you have something in common with someone here already.

I'm SO jealous you got to meet Stephen King!! I've read just about everything he's written, and I've also read John Douglas. I really morbidly enjoyed "Mind Hunters".

So, that's enough of my ramblings in your intro thread. Hope you hang with us for a bit! :yh_peace

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:51 am

I welcome you also. My immediate reaction when I read your intro.. was to respond with the same thought as Lons. An obsession with serial killers, death, and suffering would seem to be not the best hobby for someone dealing with depression. Coming here , could possibly be helpful. Taking a hiatus from maudlin scenarios might be a big help also. I would think that after all the hearache, a little sunshine would help. And if you dont mind my observation... explore the possibility that your son might be suffering also. You could be his lifeline, if you strive to be in an uplifting frame of mind.

King Terry · Post by **King Terry** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:26 am

weeder wrote: And if you dont mind my observation... explore the possibility that your son might be suffering also. You could be his lifeline, if you strive to be in an uplifting frame of mind.

I would strongly agree with that. My eldest daughter is still suffering from depression and having to be treated with drugs. We were finding the loss of our daughter so severe that we never considered that she she might be grieving too. She was only four at the time and we thought she would not fully understand. We were wrong and I am very ashamed to admit that we let her down badly and she is now paying the price. Her mother walking out on both of us and taking her other sister with her has only made things worse. Please don't make the same mistakes that we did. Boys, I suspect, will want to appear strong and put on a facade, I know I did at the time, so look behind it and see what you find.

Good Luck.

pantsonfire321@aol.com · Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:56 am

Hi and welcome ..you say you like true crime books ..have you read anything by John Dunning his book's are quite good ..Cryptic Crimes ,Carnal Crimes, Deadly Deviats ,Madly Murderous, Mindless Murders ,also Wensley Clarkson ..An eye for eye,The mother from hell about Theresa Jimmie Knorr. And Sex Killers by Brian Marriner... not a bad read ....

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:43 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: That's not an obsession, he merely said he enjoys true crime. Jeez people, this immediate need to play Freud with the poor guy is going to scare him away from FG. This is an intro thread... maybe when/if he comes back and actually asks for advice would be the time to offer all these thoughts and suggestions. Ya think?
Good point, Snooze. I do hope Wolf comes back and makes some friends here.

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:03 pm

King Terry wrote: I would strongly agree with that. My eldest daughter is still suffering from depression and having to be treated with drugs. We were finding the loss of our daughter so severe that we never considered that she she might be grieving too. She was only four at the time and we thought she would not fully understand. We were wrong and I am very ashamed to admit that we let her down badly and she is now paying the price. Her mother walking out on both of us and taking her other sister with her has only made things worse. Please don't make the same mistakes that we did. Boys, I suspect, will want to appear strong and put on a facade, I know I did at the time, so look behind it and see what you find.

Good Luck.
I am guilty of not realizing that my son was suffering over a number of traumas, years ago. That is why I was able to offer the advice. I let him down also.

ANGRYWOLF · Post by **ANGRYWOLF** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:34 am

I am still here..and I have not taken offense at anything anyone has said..I am not that thin skinned..I appreciate the kindness and concern expressed for me....I know it came from the heart...I am glad to be here and I hope I can say some positive things that all of you will enjoy and find helpful as you go about your lives...

I have not had time to read a lot of the true crime stories out there but I hope to get more reading done as time permits...

As far as my son...I am sure he hurts as well..my daughter was too young to feel it..but my son and his mom were very close..so I am sure he hurts..I sent them both to grief camps after my wife died and they had sympathy and compassion from other relatives, friends, and our church so I hope that was helpful to them..

I hope that those of you who have suffered..aren't blaming yourselves for anything that occured...We're not mind readers..it's difficult to always know when someone else is hurting if they try to conceal it...I should know..I am good at concealing my feelings..so please don't blame yourselves for failing to react...You just don't always know what is in someone's heart...

I want to once again thank all of you for the tremendous welcome you have extended to me..It is something I will always treasure........