Italians do it better ...

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:11 am

see this...

http://www.rivelazioni.com/mm/bozzetto/eu-it.shtml

ciao

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:56 am

EXCELLENT!!

I loved it, Accadue :-6

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:49 am

Well.. not all italians are so...only... er...may be...i don't know...about 90% ?

Supersilly@rse · Post by **Supersilly@rse** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:58 am

I adore Italy and regularly go to Florence. I've also been to Venice, Sienna and Rome and loved every second of it!

Next stop - the lakes......

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:02 am

That was brilliant!!!

thanks

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:06 am

Supersilly@rse wrote: I adore Italy and regularly go to Florence. I've also been to Venice, Sienna and Rome and loved every second of it!

Next stop - the lakes......

Really??

I think that foreigners know better Italy than we italians.

I've visited Torino, Florence, Roma, Siena, Napoli, just to mention few, but - it is so shameful, I know - never visited Venezia and Sicily...

We always try to plan a trip there, but there is always something which stops us... I'll be able, one day or another ...:driving:

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:22 am

oh, about lakes: they are simply wonderful.

Better in spring or summertime

All lakes are beautiful, but I like so much the little Lago d'Orta. It has a small island in the middle, you can reach it by boat only and there are no cars on it.

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Marie5656 · Post by **Marie5656** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:57 am

Yes, we Italians are really cool people.

My grandparents are from Sicily.

Lulu2 · Post by **Lulu2** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:06 am

:wah: Soooo true! It needs a scene about Vespas scooting about!

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:41 am

This would explain my wife's 3 accidents in 3 yrs. Thanks for clearing that up. :rolleyes:

Supersilly@rse · Post by **Supersilly@rse** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:43 am

ACCADUE wrote: oh, about lakes: they are simply wonderful.

Better in spring or summertime

All lakes are beautiful, but I like so much the little Lago d'Orta. It has a small island in the middle, you can reach it by boat only and there are no cars on it.

Looks like that's going to be my next holiday! When is the best time of year to visit? (I don't want to go anywhere in tourist season)

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:18 am

Of course, springtime and summertime are the best: but the sweetness of autumn and the white landscapes in wintertime are "unmatchable" (is that right?)

good week end to everybody

:-4

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:20 am

ACCADUE wrote: "unmatchable" (is that right?)

Yes it is, Paola!

Your English is excellent :-6

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:21 am

oh, I would LOVE to visit Italy! :-6

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:24 am

sunny104 wrote: oh, I would LOVE to visit Italy! :-6

Just do it: we'll be waiting for you:yh_hugs

saluti

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:28 am

cherandbuster wrote: Yes it is, Paola!

Your English is excellent :-6

Cher: you are always so kind !

Sometime I miss english words, now I hope that, reading the beautiful FG, I will learn many new expressions...

Thanks to everybody

(and pls, correct me when I write wrong: I will not be offended, but, on the contrary, happy to learn - thanks)

cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:29 am

ACCADUE wrote: reading the beautiful FG

It's always good to be reminded

how *beautiful* the Garden really is :-6

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:49 am

ACCADUE wrote: Just do it: we'll be waiting for you:yh_hugs

saluti
:-4

that's part of the plan now that the kiddies are getting older...whenever we visit Ireland now, if we're going to go all that way, we might as well visit somewhere else, too!

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:53 am

sunny104 wrote: oh, I would LOVE to visit Italy! :-6

Once you get past the Sistine Chapel and some of the other "artsy" stuff and I hear the spaghetti is ok, what are you really left with ?

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:57 am

Nomad wrote: Once you get past the Sistine Chapel and some of the other "artsy" stuff and I hear the spaghetti is ok, what are you really left with ?
well, darn it!

maybe I'll just go to Minnesota instead....:yh_think :wah:

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:00 am

Sure, why go through all that trouble when you can just come here and see where they make flour.

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:03 am

I've only visited Italy briefly whilst on a Med. cruise. But it is so beautiful, we went to Pisa and the drive through the countryside was lovely. Pisa itself is pretty. We also spent a day at Civitaveccia (is that right?) which, although it's used as a base for cruise ships to send passengers to Rome, is a nice town in itself, we didn't go to Rome because it was a long day and too hot for our daughter to be stuck in a coach for hours!!

I hope that one day we'll be able to go back - but having seen the evidence we won't be driving!!

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:06 am

Nomad wrote: Sure, why go through all that trouble when you can just come here and see where they make flour.
now that sounds exciting....:-6

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:07 am

Imladris wrote: I've only visited Italy briefly whilst on a Med. cruise. But it is so beautiful, we went to Pisa and the drive through the countryside was lovely. Pisa itself is pretty. We also spent a day at Civitaveccia (is that right?) which, although it's used as a base for cruise ships to send passengers to Rome, is a nice town in itself, we didn't go to Rome because it was a long day and too hot for our daughter to be stuck in a coach for hours!!

I hope that one day we'll be able to go back - but having seen the evidence we won't be driving!!

I bet if we changed the names of our cities to things like Civitaveccia or Messina Catania people would flock here too. That doesnt seem too hard. Hey I live in Palermo Minnesota ! Drop on by.

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:10 am

Nomad wrote: I bet if we changed the names of our cities to things like Civitaveccia or Messina Catania people would flock here too. That doesnt seem too hard. Hey I live in Palermo Minnesota ! Drop on by.

Love to!! Italian men have a tendancy to pinch ladies bottoms, is it the same there?

It's not that I'm complaing mind, just looking forward to it!!:sneaky:

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:14 am

Imladris wrote: Love to!! Italian men have a tendancy to pinch ladies bottoms, is it the same there?

It's not that I'm complaing mind, just looking forward to it!!:sneaky:

I gotta be honest with you, no I dont see a lot of guys grabbing womens asses around here. Not sure why although legislation has been introduced to decriminalize clubbing women and dragging them back to your cave. Ill let you know how that turns out.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:22 am

Imladris wrote: Love to!! Italian men have a tendancy to pinch ladies bottoms, is it the same there?

It's not that I'm complaing mind, just looking forward to it!!:sneaky:
:wah:

can you pinch them back?? :yh_bigsmi

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:23 am

Imladris wrote: Love to!! Italian men have a tendancy to pinch ladies bottoms, is it the same there?

It's not that I'm complaing mind, just looking forward to it!!:sneaky:

Update yourselves.

Now Italian girls have that tendancy...!!!!

Mind your steps!

:yh_wink

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:47 am

Paola, I must have been away when you posted that video. LOVE IT !!! My favourite bit was the coffee !!!! Grin.... Perfect!! And you're right, there are some Italian men around with very pinchable behinds. :sneaky:

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:28 am

Great. AussiPam !!!

I confirm.

:wah:

Supersilly@rse · Post by **Supersilly@rse** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:06 am

Nomad wrote: Once you get past the Sistine Chapel and some of the other "artsy" stuff and I hear the spaghetti is ok, what are you really left with ?

If you do choose to ignore some of the most controversial and forward thinking artists of their times - Michelangelo, Botticelli, Da Vinci (Palazzo Veccio) then what is left........ let me tell you!

Errrm, a few hundred years of incredibly interesting politics and religious control? If you consider what the 'artsy stuff' had to get through to survive (particularly in renaissance Florence) it's pretty amazing.

You have the whole 'Savonarola' thing - which is an extreme clash of politics and religon, and fascinating.

For the conspiracy theorists amongst you - just take a look at the Medici family and some of their connections (from Nostradamus to George Bush) You only have to wander around some of the big cities with your eyes open and you can spot the signs!

Now - if these aren't reasons enough to go to Italy, then you really are best off staying at home!

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:51 am

Thank you for your comment.

Just two words to top off.

I believe that – even forgetting the most gorgeous towns, not only in Italy, but all over the world –

every Country has its own beauty, even if there are no monuments, museums, and so on¦

(all these things are the Country added value, beyond the natural value)

There are so many beautiful villages, towns, not known by mass tourists, which keep intact their old charm, enchanting landscapes, small eating houses, unchanged in years, and other hidden treasures.. all “stuff that really worth visiting..

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:01 pm

Imagine the scene - 20 bikes, 25 bikers touring Europe during a long and *very* hot summer stop for the night in a village outside of Turin.

After pitching camp and performing our ablutions (lovely campsite with very good showers) we headed on into the village - very quiet!

Spotting some local lads we asked after the nightlife (beer, women, that kind of thing) and struck gold. Out to the main road, turn right, three kilometers to the crossroads, turn left, one kilometer, big building on your right is the biggest nightclub around - loadsa girls.

Off we roared, keen as mustard. Directions were superb and we swept into the car park en-mass. Posh place too - attendants to park the bike up for us, attendants to take our helmets and jackets to the cloakroom, fancy decorations on the walls. Never seen anything like it.

We walked into the main hall and stopped dead!

You have never seen anything like it. Loadsa women sure - all kissing each other. Loadsa men doing the same with gay abandon. Some of the costumes you had to see to believe! To say our collective gobs were smacked would be an understatement.

Worse was to follow! The cloakrooms would not give us our kit back, the parking attendands had misteriously disappeared and our bikes were nowhere to be found!

All in all a shocking experience for a callow youth - we reached Monacco the next day and I didn't see Italy again for 30 years.

Such is life

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:05 am

Bryn Mawr;440764 wrote: Worse was to follow! The cloakrooms would not give us our kit back, the parking attendands had misteriously disappeared and our bikes were nowhere to be found!

All in all a shocking experience for a callow youth - we reached Monacco the next day and I didn't see Italy again for 30 years.

Such is life

No, I do not agree at all.

This is not life.

Such experiences disappoint me very much, both if it happens in Italy and abroad - because it may happens everywere.

I understand very well your mood but, really, these are the kind of things that I the most displease.

My daughter had her rucksack and all documents stolen when she was in Austria, my boss had his portable phone stolen when in Hong Kong and also his credit card had been cloned..

I would like to know - if you remember - where were you when it happened

and if you made a charge.

Ciao

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:19 am

How sad you had such an unpleasant experience Bryn. I hope your visit to Italy thirty years later was happier. Maybe you can write about that in here too.

Is the weather starting to get cooler in your area now, Accadue? I was speaking to my daughter in London this evening and she says it's now quite cold in the morning. Do you have daylight saving time changes in Italy? Here, our clocks go forward an hour this coming weekend - we'll be in summer time. In England they go back an hour.

I just finished carving a Halloween pumpkin. It's not the best one I've ever done, but it's not the worst either. Grin. Do you celebrate Halloween in any form in Italy?

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cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:22 am

Hello Aussie Pam my friend! :-4

And a warm hello to you too, Accadue!

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:32 am

Hi Cher. Yep, I think we need to bring a bottle of champers in here. Accadue is probably feeling bad.. grin... it's not nice when people's only mention of your country is unpleasant stuff. Accadue is of course a lady of considerable style and grace, and it's wonderful to have her here. Hang on and I'll get us some good champers.

On the other hand let's have a few cosmopolitans!!

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cherandbuster · Post by **cherandbuster** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:34 am

Aussie Pam! It's 7:30 in the morning here!

Give me at least until noontime

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:34 am

So !!! :sneaky:

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:37 am

ACCADUE;442176 wrote: No, I do not agree at all.

This is not life.

Such experiences disappoint me very much, both if it happens in Italy and abroad - because it may happens everywere.

I understand very well your mood but, really, these are the kind of things that I the most displease.

My daughter had her rucksack and all documents stolen when she was in Austria, my boss had his portable phone stolen when in Hong Kong and also his credit card had been cloned..

I would like to know - if you remember - where were you when it happened

and if you made a charge.

Ciao

No charges - it was just some kids having a laugh at our expence. The idiots at the nightclub did not help but we lost nothing but our dignity

Looking back at it we saw the humour but we were not best pleaed at the time.

I cannot remember exactly which village but it was just south of Turin.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:41 am

AussiePam;442223 wrote: How sad you had such an unpleasant experience Bryn. I hope your visit to Italy thirty years later was happier. Maybe you can write about that in here too.

Is the weather starting to get cooler in your area now, Accadue? I was speaking to my daughter in London this evening and she says it's now quite cold in the morning. Do you have daylight saving time changes in Italy? Here, our clocks go forward an hour this coming weekend - we'll be in summer time. In England they go back an hour.

I just finished carving a Halloween pumpkin. It's not the best one I've ever done, but it's not the worst either. Grin. Do you celebrate Halloween in any form in Italy?

Going back was work (fly out, meeting with clients, fly back - only time for 2 hours looking round Rome) but my wife and I are planning a holiday trip to Rome to see it properly.

ACCADUE · Post by **ACCADUE** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:17 am

Dear AussiPam, dear Cher,

of course it is not a pleasure hearing such news but, anyway, I like it or I don't like it, there things which happen even if we do not agree.

A bad experience is always presents in our mind.

In Italy we says: once you have been burned with hot water, you will be afraid even with cold water.

No problem: I am serene, but only really deep sorry when I hear those news.

ciao a tutti

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:20 am

ACCADUE;442266 wrote: Dear AussiPam, dear Cher,

of course it is not a pleasure hearing such news but, anyway, I like it or I don't like it, there things which happen even if we do not agree.

A bad experience is always presents in our mind.

In Italy we says: once you have been burned with hot water, you will be afraid even with cold water.

No problem: I am serene, but only really deep sorry when I hear those news.

ciao a tutti

In England we say "once bitten twice shy".

As you say, these things happen - not something to dwell on or worry about.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:30 am

Bryn Mawr;440764 wrote: Imagine the scene - 20 bikes, 25 bikers touring Europe during a long and *very* hot summer stop for the night in a village outside of Turin. (...)

Spotting some local lads we asked after the nightlife (beer, women, that kind of thing) and struck gold. Out to the main road, turn right, three kilometers to the crossroads, turn left, one kilometer, big building on your right is the biggest nightclub around - loadsa girls.

Off we roared, keen as mustard. Directions were superb and we swept into the car park en-mass. Posh place too - attendants to park the bike up for us, attendants to take our helmets and jackets to the cloakroom, fancy decorations on the walls. Never seen anything like it.

We walked into the main hall and stopped dead!

You have never seen anything like it. Loadsa women sure - all kissing each other. Loadsa men doing the same with gay abandon. Some of the costumes you had to see to believe! To say our collective gobs were smacked would be an understatement. (...)

Such is life

Ha! Ha! Rofl! I was once similarly "had" in a city not far away... the first I

realised was that the barman looked rather like Freddy Mercury, wearing

a scarlet sash! Didn't twig 'till I looked around!

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:34 am

Bill Sikes;442277 wrote: Ha! Ha! Rofl! I was once similarly "had" in a city not far away... the first I

realised was that the barman looked rather like Freddy Mercury, wearing

a scarlet sash! Didn't twig 'till I looked around!

Didn't get as far as the bar - didn't get more than 6 inches through the door!

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:38 am

Bryn Mawr;442280 wrote: Didn't get as far as the bar - didn't get more than 6 inches through the door!

Oh, don't say things like that! I wonder what the clientele thought when I and

my oppo. looked around? Generally they've a good sense of humour..... also,

they had the pleasure of watching one of the fastest "pints in one" ever!