Serious question

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:15 pm

Why is it that most American "beers" which make to this side of the pond (Budweiser and Coors) have not been poured back into the diabetic horse which produced them?

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:19 pm

Chookie;618426 wrote: Why is it that most American "beers" which make to this side of the pond (Budweiser and Coors) have not been poured back into the diabetic horse which produced them?

:yh_rotfl too many of them they will be on their way to horspiddle (hospital)

if i have any american friends over i give them 2 pints of tennents extra they callapse :wah: :wah:

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:25 pm

jimbo;618432 wrote: :yh_rotfl too many of them they will be on their way to horspiddle (hospital)

if i have any american friends over i give them 2 pints of tennents extra they callapse :wah:

:wah: :wah: I miss Special Brew!!

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:26 pm

ThePheasant;618438 wrote: :wah: :wah: I miss Special Brew!!

Thats wife beater drink!!! Or husband, whatever the case may be :wah:

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:28 pm

Chookie;618426 wrote: Why is it that most American "beers" which make to this side of the pond (Budweiser and Coors) have not been poured back into the diabetic horse which produced them?

I was shocked to the core - horrified - speechless even, last time I drove through Burton Upon Trent, that home of British brewing, birthplace of the great IPA, to see that the Museum of Brewing is now, shudder, say it quietly "The Coors Mueum of Brewing"

How can they do this to us! It's gnat's ****! It's undrinkable rubbish! And they plaster its name over the holy of holies!

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:34 pm

SuzyB;618440 wrote: Thats wife beater drink!!! Or husband, whatever the case may be :wah:

:wah: Its pretty powerful - not sure I could drink it any more :yh_party

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:35 pm

Bryn Mawr;618444 wrote: I was shocked to the core - horrified - speechless even, last time I drove through Burton Upon Trent, that home of British brewing, birthplace of the great IPA, to see that the Museum of Brewing is now, shudder, say it quietly "The Coors Mueum of Brewing"

How can they do this to us! It's gnat's ****! It's undrinkable rubbish! And they plaster its name over the holy of holies!

nooooooooo:(

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:08 pm

Im very fond of a Bud, each to his own

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:14 pm

buttercup;618490 wrote: Im very fond of a Bud,..............

Well nobody's perfect (except me, obviously)

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:18 pm

& your perfect beer is ???????

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:26 pm

Chookie;618426 wrote: Why is it that most American "beers" which make to this side of the pond (Budweiser and Coors) have not been poured back into the diabetic horse which produced them?

I don't know, but most are vile. That is not to say that USAian beer is all like that, just as all German beer is not like (for instance) Heineken (unfortunately massively represented at Twickenham). These pails of pss are often brewed under licence in the UK!

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:28 pm

buttercup;618490 wrote: Im very fond of a Bud, each to his own )

Oh dear. Do (did) you also ever buy "Mexican" beer, and drink it from the bottle, with a bit of lime stuck into the neck? Pffft.

What's that other supposedly US stuff? Mitchlob? Bleaurgh!

Edit: Another one brewed under licence, perhaps. I hope the original isn't like the clone!

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:30 pm

Was waiting for you to show up with your warm glow to the thread Bill

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:37 pm

buttercup;618507 wrote: Was waiting for you to show up with your warm glow to the thread Bill

I quite like beer. I have heard it said that there is good beer to be had in the 'States. I should like to try some. It is true to say that there's good beer available in Germany, and other countries in Europe. However, I would not drink Heineken, Budweiser, or similar - unless it was a real emergency.

Going back to Special Brew, I have no problem with that at all - I might fall asleep in a state of silliness, perhaps - I don't get "punchy" when pssed, thank goodness - however, if one drinks too fast and too deeply of this sort of "beer", the results (when fitful conciousness is regained) are *horrendous*!

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:38 pm

buttercup;618507 wrote: Was waiting for you to show up with your warm glow to the thread Bill

Ah! Sorry. I was not trying to be nasty! Words, words...

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:40 pm

I liken your comments to my experience with Jack Daniels never having gone down the special brew route, sounds similar

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:41 pm

Bill Sikes;618510 wrote: Ah! Sorry. I was not trying to be nasty! Words, words...

I never assume you to be nasty, that was my feeble attempt at sarcasm, im very fond of you 'oh dark one'

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:41 pm

buttercup;618498 wrote: & your perfect beer is ???????

Not addressed to me, I know. However, a difficult question. If one wants to drink lots, or even lots and lots, it can't be strong - however, I, these days, tend to favour something rather alcoholic that has a lingering taste. Hm. Do I? Perhaps I'd better have a session sometime. Perhaps it's got something to do with having *time* to drink?

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:44 pm

Bill Sikes;618514 wrote: Not addressed to me, I know. However, a difficult question. If one wants to drink lots, or even lots and lots, it can't be strong - however, I, these days, tend to favour something rather alcoholic that has a lingering taste. Hm. Do I? Perhaps I'd better have a session sometime. Perhaps it's got something to do with having *time* to drink?

Maybe its age but im quite fond of a good red wine nowardays over beer

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:46 pm

buttercup;618490 wrote: Im very fond of a Bud, each to his own

I understand that it's very useful for cleaning the drains :p

Hello stranger :-6

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:49 pm

Bryn Mawr;618518 wrote: I understand that it's very useful for cleaning the drains :p

Hello stranger :-6

Bryn :-4

Nothing beats a Laphroaig eh?

I look forward to the day when we share a bottle.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:57 pm

buttercup;618517 wrote: Maybe its age but im quite fond of a good red wine nowardays over beer )

Recently I had to tip away an amount of the stuff; also "white", and "fizzy". By the time I'd tried sips of various - just to check that it really *was* beyond the pale, you see - as well as some wine that was still OK, to recover from the ordeal, you understand - I was very tired, and my palate was very confused. In the morning, there were tipsily upended bottles in kitchen sink, and in a box, for re-cycling. The copper bottoms of my saucepans were nicely cleaned, too. Ah, me. "Stock rotation". I must soon see what other stock is still OK. There's some outside, under some old carpet tiles, in a "utility room". Constant temperature, bottles on their sides, from "the Wine Society". Should be still OK. I ought to check before Christmas, anyway.

Pheasy · Post by **Pheasy** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:00 pm

but booze is ALOT cheaper over here ........... (ducks behind wall to dodge the rotten eggs) :driving: :-4

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:00 pm

buttercup;618519 wrote: Bryn :-4

Nothing beats a Laphroaig eh?

I look forward to the day when we share a bottle.

Ah, a great whisky indeed and a delight to the senses.

I've a bottle of Delaney's whiskey in the cupboard now that is not at all undrinkable.

We will, indeed, have to crack a bottle and see how it pours.

But for the everyday I do tend to stick to the ale, it safer that way

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:00 pm

Bill Sikes;618524 wrote: Recently I had to tip away an amount of the stuff; also "white", and "fizzy". By the time I'd tried sips of various - just to check that it really *was* beyond the pale, you see - as well as some wine that was still OK, to recover from the ordeal, you understand - I was very tired, and my palate was very confused. In the morning, there were tipsily upended bottles in kitchen sink, and in a box, for re-cycling. The copper bottoms of my saucepans were nicely cleaned, too. Ah, me. "Stock rotation". I must soon see what other stock is still OK. There's some outside, under some old carpet tiles, in a "utility room". Constant temperature, bottles on their sides, from "the Wine Society". Should be still OK. I ought to check before Christmas, anyway.

Oh you poor lamb, what an ordeal to have to endure. Should this situation ever arise again you must call me immediately 'its my duty as your friend' to help in these difficult times.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:03 pm

Bill Sikes;618524 wrote: Recently I had to tip away an amount of the stuff; also "white", and "fizzy". By the time I'd tried sips of various - just to check that it really *was* beyond the pale, you see - as well as some wine that was still OK, to recover from the ordeal, you understand - I was very tired, and my palate was very confused. In the morning, there were tipsily upended bottles in kitchen sink, and in a box, for re-cycling. The copper bottoms of my saucepans were nicely cleaned, too. Ah, me. "Stock rotation". I must soon see what other stock is still OK. There's some outside, under some old carpet tiles, in a "utility room". Constant temperature, bottles on their sides, from "the Wine Society". Should be still OK. I ought to check before Christmas, anyway.

My "cellar" consists of various bottles of vintage Port from the late seventies and early eighties - result of several years buying from works Christmas Port runs to the wholesalers where we managed a respectable discount for bulk purchase.

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:09 pm

Bryn Mawr;618530 wrote: My "cellar" consists of various bottles of vintage Port from the late seventies and early eighties - result of several years buying from works Christmas Port runs to the wholesalers where we managed a respectable discount for bulk purchase.

Apparently my other half has never been to London & on top of that never indulged in Port

Seems to me we may be seeing you sooner than you think :wah:

We will of course bring the Scottish delights & expect all your granbabies to be there as we dont have that pleasure yet (not that im seeking them - just incase the girls pass through here :-3 )

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:19 pm

buttercup;618533 wrote: Apparently my other half has never been to London & on top of that never indulged in Port

Seems to me we may be seeing you sooner than you think :wah:

We will of course bring the Scottish delights & expect all your granbabies to be there as we dont have that pleasure yet (not that im seeking them - just incase the girls pass through here :-3 )

The Port's at home in Leicester but I'm up for a meet if you make it down to the Smoke. (I'd even get a bottle in, and some stilton to go with it).

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Tue May 22, 2007 12:56 pm

buttercup;618498 wrote: & your perfect beer is ???????

Apologies for being a bit late but I was busy last night.

There is no such thing as a "perfect" beer, but I like, from our neck of the woods, Fraoch and Scheihallion, from down south, there is Hobgoblin or Old Peculiar, from the US, there is Sam Adams or Steam Packet.

I could go on...............and on...................and on.......

laneybug · Post by **laneybug** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:15 pm

Bill Sikes;618506 wrote: Oh dear. Do (did) you also ever buy "Mexican" beer, and drink it from the bottle, with a bit of lime stuck into the neck? Pffft.

What's that other supposedly US stuff? Mitchlob? Bleaurgh!

Edit: Another one brewed under licence, perhaps. I hope the original isn't like the clone!

The "Mexican" beer you're speaking of.... is it Corona? I absolutely can not stand American beer. Tastes like ****. I can stand a Corona now and then. It's the Mexican in me, I guess. :rolleyes:

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:27 pm

I love my US (and Mexican) beer!

to me the foreign stuff doesn't taste as good....unless it's a pint of Heineken in Ireland. It's all what you're used to......:-6

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:30 pm

sunny104;619174 wrote: I love my US (and Mexican) beer!

to me the foreign stuff doesn't taste as good....unless it's a pint of Heineken in Ireland. It's all what you're used to......:-6

i had a pint of guinness today i really enjoyed it :-6 :-6

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:34 pm

jimbo;619182 wrote: i had a pint of guinness today i really enjoyed it :-6 :-6

yummy! :-6

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:36 pm

sunny104;619174 wrote: I love my US (and Mexican) beer!

to me the foreign stuff doesn't taste as good....unless it's a pint of Heineken in Ireland. It's all what you're used to......:-6

In Ireland, Heineken is foreign.

Carl44 · Post by **Carl44** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:37 pm

Chookie;619190 wrote: In Ireland, Heineken is foreign.

:wah: :wah:

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:41 pm

Chookie;619190 wrote: In Ireland, Heineken is foreign.

I know, but it tastes the best there!

the Heineken we get here tastes completely different........

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:54 pm

Kathy Ellen;619201 wrote: Chookie,

You'd be surprised about all the new home breweries we have in the States right now.

Actually, I wouldn't, I've quaffed a fair number of them, my point was that most the American "beers" which reach Europe are total crap.

Like Sunny said "the Heineken we get here tastes completely different........". It might be something as simple as trace elements in the water, but, as I said, most American beers which reach us taste like the product if diabetic horses.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue May 22, 2007 3:10 pm

buttercup;618533 wrote: Apparently my other half has never been to London & on top of that never indulged in Port eek:

"The best wine [...] is two bottles of port"

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue May 22, 2007 3:12 pm

jimbo;619182 wrote: i had a pint of guinness today i really enjoyed it :-6 :-6

Ah. That's lager beer.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue May 22, 2007 3:18 pm

magenta flame;619276 wrote: How can you be an anglo and not have tasted port????-2

I lurve port, that's why I don't drink it, I lurve it too much : o : D

What's an "anglo"?

You can get some reasonable LBV dirt cheap. One bottle never hurt anyone!

What? "Port & lemon"?

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue May 22, 2007 3:20 pm

Pinky;619279 wrote: Port's great stuff! Especially with brandy... sneaky:

Errrr... what??

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Tue May 22, 2007 3:36 pm

Kathy Ellen;619287 wrote: the wonderful taste of Guinness. But, by the time it leaves the city and even travels around Ireland, it is not as good.

It makes no flippin' difference whatsoever. "Draught" Guiness is basically tinned beer.