Is It Possible

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:26 am

Forgive me, but I happen to be a skeptical S.O.B when reading a post from what appears to be a young man, declaring he's Pretty Scared. I read it as subtly asking for a financial handout, and yet, most responders to his post seem to be all believing. I tend to take much of what I read on the Web with a grain of salt, particularly sob stories. Sorry.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:31 am

Lon;677362 wrote: Forgive me, but I happen to be a skeptical S.O.B when reading a post from what appears to be a young man, declaring he's Pretty Scared. I read it as subtly asking for a financial handout, and yet, most responders to his post seem to be all believing. I tend to take much of what I read on the Web with a grain of salt, particularly sob stories. Sorry.
Read my post to him Lon. I told him to basically get a job. If he is willing to work, getting a job is not a problem.

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:32 am

i think lon you are being a little judgmental,of course we all post with caution,this should be a place that we all should be able to come and just be able to tell people are problems if need be.

But it is also ok like yourself to have that opinon,which i and no doubt every one on here will repect.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:38 am

I'm the type of person that will hang back and get a feel for people before interacting with them, online and in person.

I have to know where someone's coming from or if they're 'my type', otherwise I don't bother with them.

JacksDad · Post by **JacksDad** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:59 am

Can I borrow 700 bucks?

:driving:

KB. · Post by **KB.** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:00 am

I didn't see anyone doing anything other than telling him to grab his nuts and get a job.

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:02 am

ummmmmmmm well said KB :-2

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:02 am

JacksDad;677379 wrote: Can I borrow 700 bucks?

:driving:

ask lon :wah::wah:

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:11 am

KB.;677380 wrote: I didn't see anyone doing anything other than telling him to grab his nuts and get a job.

Umm...did I say that out loud???? :wah:

Lon, I see where you are coming from and yes...its first reaction to think that he wants a hand out, I like to help people if possible...and have a big heart when it comes to people that have hardships....I guess it helps that I'm penny-less so I know they won't get a dime from me, but I really don't see the harm in helping someone with ideas on how to improve their lives...

Love,

Bleeding Heart in VA

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:53 am

I'm gullible, I'll admit it. I tend to believe what people tell me and a sob story will usually generate sympathy or advice. I don't see anything wrong with being compassionate but I'm not a complete moron (I leave that to.....) and I won't get sucked in to be someone's crutch or be taken for a mug.

Personally I prefer to believe what someone is telling me until proved otherwise. Although some people need a good shake and a large dose of reality check and get off the fat arses and help themselves 'cos sometimes they are the only ones that can.

Now I'm rambling, did I mention I also talk rubbish quite often?

Oh, and now I can hear the ice-cream van, is it true they only play the music when they have sold out?

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:01 am

I generally don't give to charities or what not, but I don't mind helping someone out from time to time. As for the specific case being discussed, I have no opinion on it to be honest either bad or good.

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:23 am

This is exactly the same cross roads, and exactly the same subject you brought up.... around a year ago. It is where you and I crossed paths for the first time. You were attacked by people who began acting like wild dogs.

I thought it was great that you were warning many of the members here to use great caution, and very wise advice. I dont presume to have full knowledge of any members finances, but I have gotten the feeling over the years, that many of us were struggling... or working hard to have middle class lives. So, whatever gestures we all make to each other ( among those of us who have been around for a long time) I would think its never enough to ruin anyone. But your advice.... is still very wise.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:39 am

This is probably why new people don't come back. The way they are spoken of here sucks.

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:12 pm

neffy;677366 wrote: i think lon you are being a little judgmental,of course we all post with caution,this should be a place that we all should be able to come and just be able to tell people are problems if need be.

But it is also ok like yourself to have that opinon,which i and no doubt every one on here will repect.

i agree with you red hence why i replyed the above

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:06 pm

If I chose to, I could reply to his thread. It doesn't mean I would send him money. It would not mean I do believe or disbelieve him. I am also skeptical about anything I read on the net, but I have no problem with people believing who or what they want.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:30 pm

neffy;677366 wrote: i think lon you are being a little judgmental,of course we all post with caution,this should be a place that we all should be able to come and just be able to tell people are problems if need be.

But it is also ok like yourself to have that opinon,which i and no doubt every

one on here will repect.

Not judemental Neffy, just cautious. If you believe everything that people post on the Web, I have a Bridge that I would like to sell you. Secondly, I disagree about going on the Web with problems, emotional, psychological or physical without knowing just who you are dealing with. People are being bilked every day and have lost lots of bucks buying into one sob story or another. Oh, don't forget those emails offering to cut you in for millions from a dear departed uncle's estate in Nigeria.

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:40 pm

Compassion and empathy doesn't cost anything.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:42 pm

weeder;677457 wrote: This is exactly the same cross roads, and exactly the same subject you brought up.... around a year ago. It is where you and I crossed paths for the first time. You were attacked by people who began acting like wild dogs.

I thought it was great that you were warning many of the members here to use great caution, and very wise advice. I dont presume to have full knowledge of any members finances, but I have gotten the feeling over the years, that many of us were struggling... or working hard to have middle class lives. So, whatever gestures we all make to each other ( among those of us who have been around for a long time) I would think its never enough to ruin anyone. But your advice.... is still very wise.

You have a good memory Weeder. I am still amazed at how believing some people are, and it's always the people that can least afford it that get screwed.

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:44 pm

I didn't read it as a "will post for food" thread on the freeway exit of FG, but if the poster was disingenuous with his tale I think he maybe disappointed if it is a scam.

I saw a lot of caring people with some good and great advice, which is what it sounded like that he wanted. To be young and financially scared is the pits, especially if you think you may be out on the streets with your parents.

I'll say this though, if things are as bad as this guy says he'll be one tough hombre when he gets though them. There’s nothing like getting a PhD from the school of life.

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:50 pm

RedGlitter;677459 wrote: This is probably why new people don't come back. The way they are spoken of here sucks.

As a new fart (is there such a thing?) I've been treated exceptionally well by everyone here. Even when I've written a few things that someone may fervently disagree with I haven't been set ablaze. There’s a lot of "agree to disagree" around here. It's nice.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:51 pm

If you guys would take the time to look at what Scott has posted when he first joined FG in 2004 (only 4 posts since then), he says, and I quote "I LIKE TO PERSUADE PEOPLE ON THE WEB". IF THAT ISN'T A WARNING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:57 pm

Lon;677542 wrote: Not judemental Neffy, just cautious. If you believe everything that people post on the Web, I have a Bridge that I would like to sell you. Secondly, I disagree about going on the Web with problems, emotional, psychological or physical without knowing just who you are dealing with. People are being bilked every day and have lost lots of bucks buying into one sob story or another. Oh, don't forget those emails offering to cut you in for millions from a dear departed uncle's estate in Nigeria.

lon even you must need this forum what ever your reason is other wise you would not post.I just think you dont always know everything lon,surely you are a caring person

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:02 pm

neffy;677559 wrote: lon even you must need this forum what ever your reason is other wise you would not post.I just think you dont always know everything lon,surely you are a caring person

My need is to learn Neffy, not seek medical, emotional or psychological advice.

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:02 pm

Lon;677555 wrote: If you guys would take the time to look at what Scott has posted when he first joined FG in 2004 (only 4 posts since then), he says, and I quote "I LIKE TO PERSUADE PEOPLE ON THE WEB". IF THAT ISN'T A WARNING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.

so are you saying then lon that we are puppets? i post this post in thinking well he is finding hard to get a job! did not even think "oh lets send him some money"

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:03 pm

Lon;677563 wrote: My need is to learn Neffy, not seek medical, emotional or psychological advice.

learn what lon, you have got my attention now?

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:05 pm

we are all here lon for different reasons is that a bad thing then?

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:11 pm

I just don't cotton to that stuff. I give money to charities and friends sometimes but not strangers. That's my choice. I can't be worried about anyone else being a sucker or not. That's their choice.

neffy · Post by **neffy** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:13 pm

RedGlitter;677570 wrote: I just don't cotton to that stuff. I give money to charities and friends sometimes but not strangers. That's my choice. I can't be worried about anyone else being a sucker or not. That's their choice.

:yh_clap:yh_clap:yh_clap

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:45 pm

neffy;677567 wrote: we are all here lon for different reasons is that a bad thing then?

It's not for me to say what is a right or wrong reason. Each person decides for themselves. What ever makes you happy.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:46 pm

Lon;677542 wrote: Not judemental Neffy, just cautious. If you believe everything that people post on the Web, I have a Bridge that I would like to sell you. Secondly, I disagree about going on the Web with problems, emotional, psychological or physical without knowing just who you are dealing with. People are being bilked every day and have lost lots of bucks buying into one sob story or another. Oh, don't forget those emails offering to cut you in for millions from a dear departed uncle's estate in Nigeria.

Lon;677563 wrote: My need is to learn Neffy, not seek medical, emotional or psychological advice.

Don't get me wrong Lon, but I find Scott's post far less offending than what I do some of yours, seems to me that he was asking for advise not money, where in comparision you have asked many intrusive questions, financial and otherwise, I would try to find the time to reply to people asking for help the same as I would on a thread from yourself. A few of your threads have caused real upset here, but because you seem to distance yourself, maybe you don't realise the effect (or maybe you do :rolleyes:):D

You have made it clear that you are here not to make friends but to gather information, which is a shame cause their are some real nice folks here

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:11 pm

SuzyB;677587 wrote: Don't get me wrong Lon, but I find Scott's post far less offending than what I do some of yours, seems to me that he was asking for advise not money, where in comparision you have asked many intrusive questions, financial and otherwise, I would try to find the time to reply to people asking for help the same as I would on a thread from yourself. A few of your threads have caused real upset here, but because you seem to distance yourself, maybe you don't realise the effect (or maybe you do :rolleyes:):D

You have made it clear that you are here not to make friends but to gather information, which is a shame cause their are some real nice folks here

You are right Suzy----I have asked many what you call intrusive questions. The funny thing is-----people respond and answer. They just can't help them selves. I should ask more intellectual questions I guess, like--"TAMPONS OR TOWELS?". Scheech!!!

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:24 pm

Lon;677601 wrote: You are right Suzy----I have asked many what you call intrusive questions. The funny thing is-----people respond and answer. They just can't help them selves. I should ask more intellectual questions I guess, like--"TAMPONS OR TOWELS?". Scheech!!!

Don't get me wrong you are come across as a smart guy, but just because your smart makes you in no way a better person than myself, which is how you can seem.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:27 pm

SuzyB;677607 wrote: Don't get me wrong you are come across as a smart guy, but just because your smart makes you in no way a better person than myself, which is how you can seem.

Or, it could be your own insecurities.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:30 pm

Lon, you always say that. Take some responsibility for how you present yourself and the things you say and imply.

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:30 pm

Lon;677611 wrote: Or, it could be your own insecurities.

The only insecurities I have is about my weight

But if I was really that bothered I'd do something about it

I can honestly say I am truly happy in myself, I am a good person and would never use my knowledge or wealth to think I am above someone else

SuzyB · Post by **SuzyB** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:40 pm

Actually Lon, I was trying to be polite in my last post, but I am sure you will appreciate a more lets say 'down to earth' answer, why would I have insecurities about myself in comparison with you?????

Someone which I respected could make me question my decisions and maybe even my views, I was always brought up to respect my elders and treat people as I would expect to be treated, I often get the feeling that you feel that you are a cut above the rest, but what I don't understand is why. You are no more wealthy than many here, no more intelligent than many, yet you feel the need to try to insinuate that we feel insecure with your presence, why do you feel that way Lon?

WonderWendy3 · Post by **WonderWendy3** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:51 pm

Peg;677538 wrote: If I chose to, I could reply to his thread. It doesn't mean I would send him money. It would not mean I do believe or disbelieve him. I am also skeptical about anything I read on the net, but I have no problem with people believing who or what they want.:yh_clap:yh_clap

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:13 pm

SuzyB;677613 wrote: The only insecurities I have is about my weight

But if I was really that bothered I'd do something about it

I can honestly say I am truly happy in myself, I am a good person and would never use my knowledge or wealth to think I am above someone else

Nor would I on purpose.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:25 pm

RedGlitter;677612 wrote: Lon, you always say that. Take some responsibility for how you present yourself and the things you say and imply.

I take absolute responsibility for everything I post. How you view it as being presented or implied is a matter of interpretation. Believe me, I think I fully understand how I am viewed by many on FG because of my posts.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:31 pm

Lon;677631 wrote: I take absolute responsibility for everything I post. How you view it as being presented or implied is a matter of interpretation. Believe me, I think I fully understand how I am viewed by many on FG because of my posts.

And yet you keep on doing it. Why is that?

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:12 pm

RedGlitter;677633 wrote: And yet you keep on doing it. Why is that?

Because I post what I feel without seeking approval.

JacksDad · Post by **JacksDad** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:46 pm

Lon;677647 wrote: Because I post what I feel without seeking approval.

Works for me.

Safe trip, Lon.

KB. · Post by **KB.** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:16 pm

RedGlitter;677612 wrote: Lon, you always say that. Take some responsibility for how you present yourself and the things you say and imply.

Lon doesn't have to take responsibility for how he presents himself any more than the people that respond to him need to take responsibility for how they react.

KB. · Post by **KB.** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:18 pm

RedGlitter;677633 wrote: And yet you keep on doing it. Why is that?

Why shouldn't he? He already said he isn't seeking approval. There are so many different people from so many varied backgrounds and diverse locations on this forum; that it would be a fing disgrace for everyone to get along.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:25 pm

KB.;677689 wrote: Why shouldn't he? He already said he isn't seeking approval. There are so many different people from so many varied backgrounds and diverse locations on this forum; that it would be a fing disgrace for everyone to get along.

KB, there is a world of difference between posting what you want because you're "not seeking approval" and degrading others and blaming it on their perceptions. Apparently you missed that part.

It's called BS.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:34 pm

RedGlitter;677713 wrote: KB, there is a world of difference between posting what you want because you're "not seeking approval" and degrading others and blaming it on their perceptions. Apparently you missed that part.

It's called BS.

I don't have to degrade anyone, some do that with their stupid and inane posts.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:39 pm

Lon;677721 wrote: I don't have to degrade anyone, some do that with their stupid and inane posts.

:yh_whistl

Is Lonny taking heat again ? :wah:

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:39 pm

Lon;677721 wrote: I don't have to degrade anyone, some do that with their stupid and inane posts.

And there's a prime example.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:40 pm

Nomad;677722 wrote: :yh_whistl

Is Lonny taking heat again ? :wah:

As in hot air? :rolleyes:

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:46 pm

:yh_coffee I just made a fresh pot of coffee anybody want some it is going to be a long night.