Oooooooooh Skittles you're so banging your head trying to work out the puzzle.
There's a guy wrote a book once. John Brunner. He called it Stand On Zanzibar and it's a long time since I saw a copy. He wrote a great page in it which says if too many things refuse to make sense, stand back. Somewhere you have what you take to be a fundamental unassumed truth that's causing you grief. Because you assume it to be true much of the rest of the world appears hostile and meaningless. Ask yourself, writes Brunner, what single belief do I hold which has the property that not believing it would allow the rest of the world to make a lot more sense?
I found mine eventually. I'd believed that things get better. Throwing that one out allowed a whole lot of other facts to be true instead.
So, what is it you think's true that's got you so gripey?
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skittles2004;719824 wrote: I still make mistakes. I still mess up. You didn't screw up, I make the choices to. I'm tired of hearing the phrase... "your almost 18, start acting it." Why would i want to turn 18... I know i become more responsible overnight right? because that's what happens when you turn 18... Sorry i argued with my sibling... well cause that's not normal at all of me. Sorry i went against your back for the billionth time... because well i never have done that right? Oh and my attitude... yea those don't come natural to me either. I wish you would get that i am not perfect. BUT I DO TRY!!!! I try my dangest hardest. I can't fail. Failing is not my first goal in life. I don't get why since i am here in this point in my life i have to be perfect! because you know what... I'm not! I AM STINKING NOT! Sorry i don't make the grades your obvious kids do. Sorry I make messes and not clean them. I'm sorry i don't understand half the crud you want from me! Sorry I cant stand the sound of your voice sometimes. Sorry its 12 a.m. and i'm tired... SORRY! sheesh!
Wow Skittles! Do you know my son? "You're almost 18, start acting it." The thing I've found about 18 is that kids want to be treated like adults at this age, but get mad when you expect them to act like an adult. I don't think anyone expects you to be perfect. I think you are more mad at yourself for not being perfect than anyone else is. At what age should you clean up your own messes?
Parents and parental figures do not try to make you feel crappy about yourself. All they want, more than anything, is to try to prevent you from making the same mistakes they have already learned from. It's called love. Love isn't always perfect. And FYI, I am proud of you for going to college. Now go clean your room. :p :-4
-oh sweetie, I'm not sure what to say, see I just turned 40 and that overnight thing of growing up at the stroke of midnight when you become legally 18, um, I think my clock is stock on daylight savings time, cause it never happened!:wah:
Well, you could always say, ok, I wont go behind your back, I'll have sex here at home and drink my Jack Daniels etc...........:wah::wah:
skittles2004;719824 wrote: I still make mistakes. I still mess up. You didn't screw up, I make the choices to. I'm tired of hearing the phrase... "your almost 18, start acting it." Why would i want to turn 18... I know i become more responsible overnight right? because that's what happens when you turn 18... Sorry i argued with my sibling... well cause that's not normal at all of me. Sorry i went against your back for the billionth time... because well i never have done that right? Oh and my attitude... yea those don't come natural to me either. I wish you would get that i am not perfect. BUT I DO TRY!!!! I try my dangest hardest. I can't fail. Failing is not my first goal in life. I don't get why since i am here in this point in my life i have to be perfect! because you know what... I'm not! I AM STINKING NOT! Sorry i don't make the grades your obvious kids do. Sorry I make messes and not clean them. I'm sorry i don't understand half the crud you want from me! Sorry I cant stand the sound of your voice sometimes. Sorry its 12 a.m. and i'm tired... SORRY! sheesh!
What a wonderful post! :-4
I don't mean its wonderful that you are having a hard time right now Skittles - as Red said it will get better and hope so soon for you :-4
I mean wonderful in reminding people like me, parents, how difficult it is to be young. To have to listen to all our nagging - forgetting that we were also at the other end of this once.
We should have a few more 'younger' people here posting - it helps us all see their side of things - or at least be reminded should we forget. :-4
spot;719844 wrote: Oooooooooh Skittles you're so banging your head trying to work out the puzzle.
There's a guy wrote a book once. John Brunner. He called it Stand On Zanzibar and it's a long time since I saw a copy. He wrote a great page in it which says if too many things refuse to make sense, stand back. Somewhere you have what you take to be a fundamental unassumed truth that's causing you grief. Because you assume it to be true much of the rest of the world appears hostile and meaningless. Ask yourself, writes Brunner, what single belief do I hold which has the property that not believing it would allow the rest of the world to make a lot more sense?
I found mine eventually. I'd believed that things get better. Throwing that one out allowed a whole lot of other facts to be true instead.
So, what is it you think's true that's got you so gripey?
Well said Spot. :-6 And I understood what you were saying :wah:
Hey we were all just eighteen once,must say was the hardest time of my life,Hang in there hun,things will get better,take it from someone who has been there and done it.
Though there aren't really any good solutions for your problem it is reasonable that you should consider it seriously to help you decide how much you want to let it affect you. I always try to find my own role in a problem instead of worrying about what other people should change. It far more likely that you can change yourself than them.
First question should be how much your parent's approval means to you and whether you think you can actually attain it.
Skittle,I am tired as well.Hey you are eighteen,you have many life expeirencess to go through.So if your problem is men or parents or whatever,life is a learning curve,Hey if it is the men thats a prob then always go for your gut instinct,Women are seldom wrong.
skittles2004;720173 wrote: I never asked to be treated anything really... I know i am 17... i'm not an adult! I know i should start acting like one soon... but seriously when does that ever happen! I can't stand when my mom does this to me! she is stressing out about other things in life, and because my sister and i got into a fight she takes her stress out on me. Then suddenly she feels better! UGH evil! I understand she does not want me to be perfect... she wants me to try. but i do try... and i guess i'm not trying hard enough for her. When she looks bad in anyway by other people its worst. ugh i wish she would grow up too!!!!!
I think you're just having one of those weird spells peculiar to your age right now. Your mom most likely is experiencing her own growing pains in the sense that she must start relinquishing her control over you and letting you go. For parents that's often difficult and it rears its head sometimes as criticism, even if unfounded. Part of what you can do as a potential adult is to show grace in the face of this situation. If it bothers you this much, then see if you can have a reasonable talk with your mom and iron some things out. Aside from that, be like a duck and let it roll off like raindrops. Try to anyway. Realize parents aren't perfect. It's unrealistic to expect you to suddenly act a certain way or become a certain kind of person just because the calendar says you're 18. It doesn't happen *snap* just like that. It comes in increments and with all kinds of experiences. I'm sure this won't be the only time you butt heads with your mom, but in time it'll pass.