Its A Mans World

weeder · Post by **weeder** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:29 am

Despite all the strides in equality that women think weve accomplished... Its a mans world. And because of women who still like to be treated like thier helpless, or behave all cutsie, view men as meal tickets. or see sex as their most valuable tool for negotiations... it will always remain that way. The group of women who view ourselves equal to men, entitled to every privledge they enjoy, resent their sexual innuendos, their sexist attitudes, their condescending behaviors, are just spitting in the wind. Because we are an army divided. The problem with being ( I hate the term) Feminist.. is that as a woman begins to realize the strength she has, what she is able to accomplish, and the joy of living independantly... no longer needing to be accountable, or to compromise her standards, her viewpoints, or her time,, she becomes a person who really cannott be catogorized any longer. She is not a slave to her gender, or locked in a role. The world is her oyster, the possibilities are endless, and men have no power over her heart, her mind, or her life. I have to go open a bottle of champagne now, before I go off to work.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:37 am

I have no argument with your post Weeder, it is indeed a "Man's World", but I think that is irrespective of how women expect to be treated. The major differences are in the hormones. Aggression and assertiveness are characteristics held by some women, but by men for the most part. This aggression and assertiveness will always make most males appear dominant.

As one who was raised and brought up by women, I think I may understand them better than most men. I have no problem treating females with anything but respect and as a equal, as long as they deserve it, not by demanding it, but by their actions.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:59 am

Condescension only works if you condescend to allow it. I have been known to stand and just look at someone who insists on addressing my male assistant - until they 'get it'. My assistant is always very quick to point out that he is not the decision maker. I like to phrase it that 'I'm the one who okays the checks'...lol

Sexist jokes are only harmful if their intent is to cause harm, IMO. A reasonable person should be able to see humor in most anything. There is not a man, woman or beast out there that I feel inferior to. I am confident in my own being. I don't take offense at jokes about women anymore then I think guys should be offended when I point out they are thinking with their 'other' head, tell them to argue a point after the blood has flowed back up to their brain... or any other little tidbits I may think of when teasing a guy.

I am me. I love using sex to get my way sometimes, but ya know what? So does HE! It's just a game and that game is based on give and take on both sides. And if I can bend him to my will- by use of sex... ain't no way in hell that makes ME the weaker sex, IMO.

I think we have spent way too much time fighting the differences between the sexes instead of simply enjoying them. Because when it comes to business, I don't get paid for being the best woman for the job, I get paid for being the best person for the job. That's the way I want it to stay.

hoxtonchris · Post by **hoxtonchris** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:29 pm

its fair to say this world is at times a mans world and at others a womans world.sometimes as a man i feel privileged ,like when ime able to do things becouse of my strength.but i am also frustrated when i need to do domestic stuff(i just cant see mess and untidy the way a girl does.but even the strength thing is not always an advantage,ime a 6 foot well built chap,the type that women expect to be brave at all times but i dont always feel it,some days i have felt like walking away from confrontation but feel the distainfull looks from girls if i do.ime also exeptionaly emotional,but darnt cry in public,if a child is in distress in the street a stranger (man)must ignore it and hope a women will happen the childs way.no its not all honey being a bloke.nor a girl i spose but ime not qualified to say .but i know one thing for sure ,ive never met a man or woman who would change her or his gender,apart from the sex op folk.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:08 pm

weeder;780400 wrote: Despite all the strides in equality that women think weve accomplished... Its a mans world. And because of women who still like to be treated like thier helpless, or behave all cutsie, view men as meal tickets. or see sex as their most valuable tool for negotiations... it will always remain that way. The group of women who view ourselves equal to men, entitled to every privledge they enjoy, resent their sexual innuendos, their sexist attitudes, their condescending behaviors, are just spitting in the wind. Because we are an army divided. The problem with being ( I hate the term) Feminist.. is that as a woman begins to realize the strength she has, what she is able to accomplish, and the joy of living independantly... no longer needing to be accountable, or to compromise her standards, her viewpoints, or her time,, she becomes a person who really cannott be catogorized any longer. She is not a slave to her gender, or locked in a role. The world is her oyster, the possibilities are endless, and men have no power over her heart, her mind, or her life. I have to go open a bottle of champagne now, before I go off to work.

We had this discsussion just today in English Lit, as mature students we're good at leading the tutors off topic :wah: (the discussion was more interesting than Blake's poetry)

It was alarming to realise that the 19 and 23 year old on our course believe that women are treated completely and utterly equal nowadays. They couldn't understand how passionately the 'older' women of the group felt about the fact that they have had the wool pulled over their eyes, the token two mature men even agreed with us 'older' women :wah:

911 · Post by **911** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:11 pm

The way I see it being a man's world is because everything is so complicated.

Take a computer for example, why not just be able to do what you want to do without having to spend hours going through program after program just to go from point A to point B. Only a man can make things so harsh.

Women want to mop the floor they get a mop and mop it. Some man has to come up with a device that makes you put diapers on the end of a stick and then squirt water from some sort of pee-pee contraption and then mop the floor! Then they encourage you to throw away your mop. What happens when you need to sop water off the floor? Where's your mop then?

Then of course there's the law. Seriously, does the government have the right to tell us what kind of TV we have to use next year? Oh, and once they make a law, there's always some a@@wipe that will find a loophole and make it worthless. Now they've spent all that time and money making a law that is useless to the rest of us.

As far as male/female relationships in the work place, I've learned how to handle it through the school of hard knocks. The best defense is knowledge, knowledge they don't have. The more you know, the less they mess with you.

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:41 pm

It is indeed a "mans world. I, personally, enjoy and appreciate the difference between the sexes. What we are striving for is respect between us......along with the other "stuff."