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I'm not American so can't vote, but for what it's worth I would prefer her to Obama, plus I believe she has a better chance of beating McCain. Besides, I don't think Obama has been clear at all on what 'change' he wants to bring about and how - a tad scary actually :)

I wonder if Obama could handle her as a VP, don't forget he'd have two of them on his case.

How much can the VP actually do about policy etc. ?





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Yes, I'd vote for Obama with Clinton on the ticket. They'd make a good team. She knows the issues of those people that Obama isn't as in tune with, or doesn't have the trust with, and Obama has the charisma that drew me to him in the first place, the positivity necessary to speak to the nation and world. He is diplomatic. She is focused, well they both are, and both are humanitarians. I would vote yes, for sure.

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JAB;881135 wrote: Hillary has indicated to two NY lawmakers that she'd be open to being the VP on the Democratic ticket in November.

Do you agree? Does it make you more or less likely to vote for them?

Personally, I don't care for Hillary so I'd be less likely to vote Democratic if she were to be the VP nominee.


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I would be flabbergasted if Hillary was named a VP candidate. I don't think the Dems would like a manage -a -trois (Obama-Hillary-Bill).
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Actually, I had a flash scenario pass through my noggin'.

McCain is a big fan of Hillary. (What I'm trying to say is that they are pretty good friends.)

What if McCain upsets the apple cart and names Hillary as his VP running mate.

yikes!
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The vice presidency position is an honored one. If the president has problems the VP will help! For you pessimistic folks out there look at the job description more closely.

Both president and vice president work in the same building, communicate daily, eat similar food, and uphold the highest virtues in the country. PLEASE try to be more positive!

This is why I never liked politcs. :mad:

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JAB;881228 wrote: You make it sound as if the VP is the President's closest advisor. With the rare exception of Cheney, many Presidents pick their running mates in order to help them win the election and not because they are kindred spirits in how to run our country.


Jab,

I'm not sure what the job description is. I should write congress and have them send me a copy of the scope. (Cheney is McCain in my opinion. They are the same person! Just an aside.) However I'm pretty sure the VP isn't supposed to be there in order to win an election. That seems to go against our forefathers intelligence now doesn't it? Do you really think the VP's job description states "and so it may be that our presidential candidates shall choose their running mates in order to capture the popular vote and thusly the entire supreme delgate count of the unified United States of America"? Is this what you are saying?

Clinton has some valid strengths that along with Obama might be good combo. Depends how much they are distracted by superfluous stuff like oil companies and rednects, diggers like that.
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Jester;881241 wrote: I know this is gong to be controversial but it needs to be said especially in light of Hillary mentioning it already...

The first Black American to be president may seriously be the first Black American President assassinated.

There is an extremely high risk for him, and I can't help but wonder if Hillary is just wanitng ot be president anyway she can. She already indicated that was the reason she hadn't given up yet in the democratic nominee race.



Whoever Obama picks must have great qualifications to run the country due to the added risk of assassination. Which I'm very sorry to say is a factor in this situation.

I would write in Mickey Mouse, before I ever gave in to any even a remote possiblity of Hillary becomeing president.

But, I wouldnt vote for Obama either... so it dont matter what I say.


Clinton does have a way with putting her foot in her mouth. Makes me wonder about her intellect. Maybe she's learning disabled (like gwbush). She is a woman trying to gain the highest office in the country, no woman has gotten as close as she has. Most white men and many of their wives will look at her bid skeptically because it's not natural for a woman to be the commander. She might even overextend herself causing confusion and errant mumblings, I don't know. She does have a vision and strength. She doesn't have any role models. Bill is a handicap!

If the black cloud of assasination should hang over Obama's head he is a mighty courageous person to stand under it. Sometimes I wonder if it is not a self fulfilling prophecy though when tragic things of that nature happen. I question whether it's not negative energy being sent to a person when predictions such as yours, jester, are made at such an early date. I heard an old black woman speak the same thing, so it's not just whites. I'm assuming you're white.

I want the best for the country. If people can't buy into having a black president (he's hardly black you know :wah:, something which caught my attention about the black community not moaning about his mixed heritage) and a woman vice president then I can't either. People pull each other in certain directions by sheer mass gravity. I'll suffer the consequences along with all Amercans at the decision we collectively make. (Or buy a condo somewhere conflict-free).

People have biases. Not sure what to say about that!

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Tombstone;881196 wrote: Actually, I had a flash scenario pass through my noggin'.

McCain is a big fan of Hillary. (What I'm trying to say is that they are pretty good friends.)

What if McCain upsets the apple cart and names Hillary as his VP running mate.

yikes!


wouldn't the republican delegates have to select her at the convention?
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It's halfway a good idea, and halfway a terrible idea, IMO.

On the plus side, he'd pick up a lot of her supporters.

But overall they are both very similar in policies ... perhaps too similar. Senators usually pick governors, and vice versa. What is she balancing out, and is it relevant? Neither of the two really have any executive experience. Really the more I think about it, Richardson seems like a better pick, for balance.
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I don't really have a strong opinion on this, but its certainly been a political race that has electrified politics in America (and Europe as well, we are glued to this one, more than any other I think). The upcoming election is going to be very interesting. I think that being a European, it would be nice to see Obama there, as being a Democrat he will probably be a lot more multi-lateral in relationships with allies than GW has been. Though McCain has interesting qualities as well, and from this side of the pond, we just want someone, anyone, as long as they are not George.
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Also in terms of the assasination thing, I think that occurs to most people, though I would imagine that given the animus that Hillary seems to raise in people, she might be more likely to get shot at than the black guy. Also, there isn't any guarantee that just because your a republican your going to be immune to gunfire, after all Reagan nearly coped it in 1981 and apparently he was quite popular, but obviously not with everyone. Assasination is an interesting one, you know a British Prime Minister was actually assasinated on the steps of the house of commons, the Swedish Prime minister was shot in the 1990s, and in many countries political assasination is a refined form of spectator sport.
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yaaarrrgg;881479 wrote: It's halfway a good idea, and halfway a terrible idea, IMO.

On the plus side, he'd pick up a lot of her supporters.

But overall they are both very similar in policies ... perhaps too similar. Senators usually pick governors, and vice versa. What is she balancing out, and is it relevant? Neither of the two really have any executive experience. Really the more I think about it, Richardson seems like a better pick, for balance.


Yes I would vote for Obama/Richardson! What a great combo. Richardson is diplomatic when dealing with tense situations. He has a way with people in most regards. Sometimes he can be a bit obtuse and can be hands on! But I suspect he learns quickly. Very sincere person is my take on him. Obama and Richardson might do better together than O & Hillary. Clinton has more of the Hispanic following than Richardson at this point even though Richardson is Hispanic himself. He's downplayed his race during the primary. I don't know. I think he's just plain acculturated basically and doesn't really side with Hispanic issues over American issues in general. He's pretty level headed though.

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