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Even trying to comprehend that God exist in the first place is tuff, so in trying to understand his personality, is just a very comprehensive thing to do. God " Is", or he exist, and he is what he is, or he exist because he exist, and I don't think we will ever know more than that about his existance. God once was asked who he is, he responded by saying " I Am what I Am." In other words, he was saying that he exist, and thats all he is saying about it. If you get a response like that from God, it means, amoungst other things, that he does NOT want to give you any more information. Other words, thats all your going to know. And this is really how God has treated the average humans on earth, with very, very limited manifestations recorded.

In Isaiah 45:15;" Truly thou are a God who Hides Himself." This is really one of Gods Personal attributes, he is very regal, he will listen to everyone, but even in that listening, its usually from a distance. Hes kind of " Stand offish", in one sense, not really out in the open. Even the prayers of the Saints are said to be bought to him in some kind of containment, vails or bowls, and he then listens to them, as one who smell incense. Perhaps good for humans in one sense, because the word of God says that no human can see God and live through that experience. Something about God can kill a human instantly by just looking at him. Kind of frightens my imagination.

So God has to be withdrawn, I mean he just has to be careful with how he reveals himself. This is only one reason why God has NOT shown himself to humanity, no human has ever seen God. But you know how humans are, they will claim up and down that they have. God knows that he cannot reveal himself to flesh and blood directly, or that would kill. So God uses other means of communication, and the fact that he does that, leads into evidence of " Personality".

And I want to go into that.

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In Exodus 33:20, is where God told a human that we cannot see him and Live, for those of you who want to examine that further. Whatever the experience of seeing God is, it would just be too much for us to experience. God allowed Moses to see his Back, but not his face. Really God just allowed Moses to see the back side " Of his Glory." So God is withdrawn, but really only to " Protect us" in one sense. His Glory is just too much for a human to experience outhand. So God deals with humanity from a distance. He uses terms that we can understand. And he cares enough about us, to NOT REVEAL himself! Or it would just kill us all.

So were talking about a being, not some kind of Medusa freak, but a being of such " Great Glory", and glory is also " Goodness", that he is just way far beyond our realm of existance. Gods level of exiatence is so powerful, that it can wipe out our existence. And he knows this, so God has to be careful with how he exposes himself.

So one of the reasons God is " Withdrawn from humanity", is because he has to be, or he would place us in grave danger. Read Isaian 42:14, and 1:15, God will keep silent for very long periods of time. And this is personality. He knows hes very powerful, he knows he waits on nobody and everything serves him. He knows he has all of eternity to even get around to doing , anything that he wants to do. He knows there is no power to stop or challange him, he knows that he gets everything that he wants. And these are reasons why God takes his time doing anything. God is very, VERY patient. I mean hes in no rush to do anything. And if you consider it, why should he?

So we can reconize personality IN God, by considering HIS ways and means of behavior. And I want to open that up some more.

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So understand that God is not in a hurry to reveal himself to us, neither me or you need worry about not understanding him. Our time will come, he will see to that. God is withdrawn from humanity, NOT because we are a bunch of filthy sinners and he is so righteous, that he can't stand his own children. Hes just on a different level than us, he exist in a totally different reality than we do. And because he is in that reality, no flesh, or nothing made of matter, can survive in his world! And we were NOT created to survive in heaven while in our flesh, no fleshly body will be in Gods Kingdom. Our destiny is to be transformed from this world that we know, and be Born again into a whole new reality with God, then we shall see him as he is.

And every last one of us will experience this " New Birth." The born again experience that Christians are teaching is rubbish! You cannot be Born again in a fleshly body. Being Born again, means simply that, your old world has died, and you are placed into a totally new one. Your body will not be the same, your mind willnot be the same, and your experience with God and Christ willnot be the same! EVER AGAIN! You will be " Actually Born Again!". Transformed into the same being and likeness that Jesus NOW IS!

But I tell you, christians have misinterpited the new birth so bad, the errors are just too deep and well established, for hardly any of them to come out of the deceptions in this life, but only the one to come.

God is Longsuffering and he will forgive you until you need no more forgiveness. There is no such thing as a sinner that God willnot forgive. God LOVES Sinners, and he Lives to give us Life! God knows how to make each of us come to know him.

And he is patient in his work on each of us.

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Look at the scriptures on the fruits of the Spirit in the bible in the book of Galations, they are a perfect reflection of the personality of God. Longsuffering and Patience are two of them. Each fruit listed is an extension of the raw personality of God, but each fruit to the HIGHEST! Love to the highest, joy to the highest and kindness to the highest and beyond. It is from these advanced levels of Goodness That God draws his personality. He really, really is gentle and Kind, I mean, thats how God really is. Its also how he rules his subjects and creations. When the ruler is righteous, the people rejoice.

God Loves because he likes to Love, he just likes it. And I believe this is why God hates the false gospels being preached in his name. People going around condeming each other and being hard on unbelievers and teaching that God will place so many of his unbelieving children in this insane hell lava lake of unmercy. These people do not know God, they have just convinced themselves that they do.

They cannot see Love and Joy in God, Kindness in him, because this perverted hell belief is a horrible blind spot.

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God has a personality, he is a personage. A Being. A living being with a mind, or minds. The bible says that God has Seven Spirits, so I think its possible he may have upwards of Seven minds, because eveyting that I know of that has a Spirit, has a mind to go along with it. Its human to have one of things, but who knows whats going on in heaven. But I wouldnot limit God, that would be foolish. God is very strange and unique. But also interesting and unsettleing.

And I want to go into that.

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In John 17:25 Jesus was personally communicating with God, so this recorded conversation is Holy. When these two talk, there is no crap going on, its the real genuine thing, dead serious truth. So we can glean much about how God is, from the conversations we are invited to between Jesus and God. Jesus begins by saying " O Righteous Father." So this is how Gods Personality is, he really is " Righteous", and God does NOT Change! Notice Malachi 3:6;" For I the Lord do not Change!" Gods personality does not waver back and forth like humans do, he is consistant and ongoing. He is not given to hissy fits and temper tantrums. If God was like a human, and able to loose control for even a few seconds, he could crack the fiber of existance and blow a serious hole into reality. God IS the Fiber of existance!

So God IS NOT like us, and we are VERY fortunate of this. God is Righteous, and he willNOT change into any other mode that is not balanced by Righteousness , he will maintain a straight path in accordance with what is just or good, and he sets the standard for conduct and principle. God is sound and correct in his judgements. His mind is Sound and reasonable , which is why I personally know that he would NEVER set up an eternal hell punishment for humans, no matter what the senerio, because that wouldNOT be sound! No, God is REASONANT personified, well constructed thinking at levels we are just not into, at this time. WAY beyound us, and way beyond the bible itself! And remember this; we are not like him, so we understand on our level of reason, and to my dismay, many believers are on the level of thinking God would set up a standard of Righteousness that the vast majority of humans could NEVER reach, and then judge them from that. This kind of belief is molded from OUR view of God, and he knows that, and from that view, many perverted assumptions and doctrines are born and have taken root in our belief, then WE judge others according to that.

But let me go further into Gods personality, and then, once that is understood, the picture of all of our salvation changes. God does not change, but our view of him needs to change.

Anyone who would look to understand God, must be willing to change.

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I think its really a shame what people have done with the perceived personality of God, just done him a horrible injustice, and I am talking about believers in God. Believers have done far more damage to the perception of God, than anythingelse BUT satan himself. But satan has used believers, like a Spirit that milks a cow, satan has used religious folks like a pied piper leading a group of rats. People actually believe that other people can explain how God is. So religious believers have been granted a platform by satan, who masquerades as God, to actually think that they represent God, and thus can explain him to the world.

And this is the area we are in now, instead of Gods word carrying humanity into the future, its actually mans word about God, that is being taught to humanity. There is no man, myself included, that can tell you about God. The bible is right there to tell us, but we prefer to listen to other people expound on God, and take " Their Word for it." A type of satanic reverse pathology that has induced untold of perversions. In Luke 3:6;" ALL flesh shall SEE the Salvation of God." Thats our destiny, our future in a nutshell. Instead of believing this, we would rather listen to a theologian, or read a book, or listen to a popular televangelist and let them mold our view of God. So Gods personality has been mocked, or traced onto our minds like a child would trace a picture already given it, in order to produce its own picture of the picture. It then has a picture of a picture, and the preconceived notion continues on to each generation.

And I want to go into how that has distorted our view of God. Because listen, getting to know God, is getting to know HIS personality, not the personality of the person speaking and teaching about God! Peace.
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All things aside, the best way to get to know Gods personality, wouldn't you think it best to be taught that from God himself? Or do you need a pastor or teacher? Where is your confidence in God, is it invested in others? 1John 2:27;" And as for YOU, the anointing which you received " From Him" abides in you, and you have no NEED for anyone to teach you, but as HIS anointing teaches you about ALL THINGS!" This is the true path in comming to know how God really is. God has to do this for whoever he sees as one he looks to open himself to.

Its the Need that throws people off, they think they need others to teach them about God. What human is a better teacher than Gods Holy Spirit? People defend their pastors and teachers, because they NEED them.

The way to understand God is not pastors and teachers.

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God is a Fulham fan...
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God is Gentle. One of the most confusing aspects of Gods perceived personality, is his Wrath. People read the bible and see all the killing God has done himself to humans, and all the killing of humans from humans that he has allowed, and they think that God is strict and firm and mean. Nothing could be further from the truth. Gods personality shouldNOT be judged by events in the bible that involved death. Because death means nothing to God, anyone God has killed or allowed to be killed, hes going to give them a better life again anyway.

Gods wrath is his " Reaction to Sin", not to the sinner. God does not like sin, but he Loves humans. When God decided to create humanity, he also created a volitle mixture of Sin, Evil and suffering and death, NONE of these things existed before humans did. So they exist " For our benefit!" I know that sounds weird, but it is nonetheless true. They are integral parts of our grooming. And God will eliminate all of those things, but NOT humanity.

Compared to eternity, our human existance is relatively short. And our creation is perhaps the most harsh thing God has ever done, when it comes to creating evil. He does not like evil, but he is obviously using it, like a master potter would use a knife. So this evil stuff in our creation is against Gods nature and personality, and he shouldnot be judged by untaught views of him. God is really gentle and passive. Sweet natured and happy in his persona. He has a whole lot of pure Joy, and is always happy.

Although God is using things that are powerful, his heart is gentle, which is a salvation garentee for weak minded humans like myself, who have surcummed to sin so much. We have a God who cares for us, no matter what.

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Mickiel;901919 wrote: Gods personality shouldNOT be judged by events in the bible that involved death. Because death means nothing to God, anyone God has killed or allowed to be killed, hes going to give them a better life again anyway.




So does this mean that God kills good people or that he rewards the bad people in which he's killed?...
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K.Snyder;901921 wrote: So does this mean that God kills good people or that he rewards the bad people in which he's killed?...




I think God has done and will do both.

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Mickiel;901925 wrote: I think God has done and will do both.

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Why would wicked people be rewarded?...I can't grasp this concept...
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K.Snyder;901926 wrote: Why would wicked people be rewarded?...I can't grasp this concept...




Wicked people need Gods blessing to, and I think more than good people do. Wicked people will need more from God, just as mentality challanged people need more from us. God willnot reward their wickedness, he will forgive it and change them. And then give them eternal life.

I think any human who has experienced being personally wicked, will need Gods Love, his forgiveness, his Mercy, his Patience and his kindness, and ALL of these things are great rewards from God.

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Mickiel;901950 wrote: Wicked people need Gods blessing to, and I think more than good people do. Wicked people will need more from God, just as mentality challanged people need more from us. God willnot reward their wickedness, he will forgive it and change them. And then give them eternal life.

I think any human who has experienced being personally wicked, will need Gods Love, his forgiveness, his Mercy, his Patience and his kindness, and ALL of these things are great rewards from God.

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So there is no such thing as hell then?...

And why would God make it possible for someone to be wicked yet reap the same rewards as the person who led the much tougher life?...

Seems to me by this virtue it would be more beneficial to be wicked considering there evidently is no consequences for peoples actions by this logic...
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Mickiel;901950 wrote: Wicked people need Gods blessing to, and I think more than good people do. Wicked people will need more from God, just as mentality challanged people need more from us. God willnot reward their wickedness, he will forgive it and change them. And then give them eternal life.

I think any human who has experienced being personally wicked, will need Gods Love, his forgiveness, his Mercy, his Patience and his kindness, and ALL of these things are great rewards from God.

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And this is the type of mentality that I am talking about, the " Spiritual Human" tendency to search for reasons why WE think God should condemn others, and thus we create a place in our belief for the condemnation of others, which re-enforces false concepts of God, and what God is like, and from those concepts, we form opinions about God. Listen; the concepts we should use to form our opinions of what God himself is like, are listed in Galations 5:22-23; " But the Fruit of the Spirit,( Or what Gods personality is like), is Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and Self Control." THESE ARE Gods Personality! Listen, THIS IS what God is like. These concepts ARE GOD! Therefore what God thinks and does are BASED on these Concepts. Hes not going to be anything that is outside of these concepts!

EVERYTHING that God does, ALL the ways that he thinks and perceives things, all the plans AND Judgements he makes, are based TOTALLY on these concepts, or PERSONALITY TRAITS of the Spirit! When he kills or destroys, it is always based on these concepts. When he judges a human, it will be done based on these things, and WILL RESULT in these things! And this is what we fail utterly to comprehend. We think God will judge based on anger or vengence, or implement things based on his wrath. Oh how this type of belief in God has destroyed our view of him.

God WILL Judge, God WILL get angry, God WILL destroy, but based on HIS ways and Means, he WILL rebuild, rebirth things better than they were before, he WILL forgive and ressurect the thing in a much better condition than before.

You see we tend to judge like this; You get one chance at life, if you blow it, you get no more chances. Where do you see those 9 fruits of the Spirit in that. Were talking about God man. GOD! God IS Love, you mean Love only gives you one chance at life? No, no, God is the HIGHEST LEVEL of Love possible and beyond, such Love WILLNOT condemn its own affection! God has a thing for us. He Loves us because he cannot help himself. He just is going to be Kind and Gentle to us, because its HIS habit!

And I want to get into that. Peace.
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K.Snyder;901972 wrote: So there is no such thing as hell then?...

And why would God make it possible for someone to be wicked yet reap the same rewards as the person who led the much tougher life?...

Seems to me by this virtue it would be more beneficial to be wicked considering there evidentially is no consequences for peoples actions by this logic...




Well of course it seems like that, I agree with you, it just does not " Seem Fair." But you have got to take your evaluation of this OFF of human reasoning, and learn to consider how God is, not how WE would figure this out. God will put the last first, and the first last. What that means is he IS NOT a respector of persons, or he is not bound to human reasonings, he will do things according to HIS will, not our will, or behavior. Look at the parable of the prodical son. One son stayed home and remainded faithful to his father, the other left home and relished the sinful life. He " Came to himself" and came home. The Father was LOVING and FORGIVING, and welcomed the sinful son home. The father WAS NOT judgemental and unforgiving, he prepared a feast and was overjoyed at his sons return.

This is how God is. Oh but the faithful son was NOT like his father! He was mad and angry, jealous and unforgiving, he was thinking about HIS faithfulness. HIS obedience, yet here was his father accepting this knothead brother back with a feast. And so many believers in God have " Morphed into this brother of the prodical son aittitude." They don't want God to forgive, because it does not seem fair to them.

Salvation IS NOT based on the faithfulness of those who remain faithful, its based on the Father, and the Father ALONE!

We simply do not know the Fathers personality like we think we do.

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Mickiel;901973 wrote: And this is the type of mentality that I am talking about, the " Spiritual Human" tendency to search for reasons why WE think God should condemn others, and thus we create a place in our belief for the condemnation of others, which re-enforces false concepts of God, and what God is like, and from those concepts, we form opinions about God.It's called conceptual logic... Mickiel;901973 wrote: Listen; the concepts we should use to form our opinions of what God himself is like, are listed in Galations 5:22-23; " But the Fruit of the Spirit,( Or what Gods personality is like), is Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and Self Control." THESE ARE Gods Personality! Listen, THIS IS what God is like. These concepts ARE GOD! Therefore what God thinks and does are BASED on these Concepts. Hes not going to be anything that is outside of these concepts! Seems a bit odd that God is construed by the characteristics of man...Aren't people supposed to be made in his image and not the other way around?...More like righteousness sums up all of that without the unneeded text...

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EVERYTHING that God does, ALL the ways that he thinks and perceives things, all the plans AND Judgements he makes, are based TOTALLY on these concepts, or PERSONALITY TRAITS of the Spirit! When he kills or destroys, it is always based on these concepts.My God doesn't Kill or Destroy sorry... Mickiel;901973 wrote: When he judges a human, it will be done based on these things, and WILL RESULT in these things! And this is what we fail utterly to comprehend. We think God will judge based on anger or vengence, or implement things based on his wrath. Oh how this type of belief in God has destroyed our view of him.What's the difference between morale killing and destroying and vengeance? and if it's not morale then I believe your defining the overall accepted jurisprudence for Satan...And if you say God doesn't kill or destroy out of vengeance why does he do it?...Fun perhaps?...

Mickiel;901973 wrote:

You see we tend to judge like this; You get one chance at life, if you blow it, you get no more chances. No more chances?...What happened with the whole "God willnot reward their wickedness, he will forgive it and change them. And then give them eternal life."?... Mickiel;901973 wrote: Were talking about God man. GOD! God IS Love,... Now we have something we agree on... Mickiel;901973 wrote: you mean Love only gives you one chance at life? No, no, God is the HIGHEST LEVEL of Love possible and beyond, such Love WILLNOT condemn its own affection! God has a thing for us. He Loves us because he cannot help himself. He just is going to be Kind and Gentle to us, because its HIS habit!




Not exactly how I would have described it but I understand your sentiment...
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Mickiel;901975 wrote: Well of course it seems like that, I agree with you, it just does not " Seem Fair." But you have got to take your evaluation of this OFF of human reasoning, and learn to consider how God is, not how WE would figure this out. :yh_ooooo

Mickiel;901975 wrote: God will put the last first, and the first last. What that means is he IS NOT a respector of persons, or he is not bound to human reasonings, he will do things according to HIS will, not our will, or behavior. Look at the parable of the prodical son. One son stayed home and remainded faithful to his father, the other left home and relished the sinful life. He " Came to himself" and came home. The Father was LOVING and FORGIVING, and welcomed the sinful son home. The father WAS NOT judgemental and unforgiving, he prepared a feast and was overjoyed at his sons return.

This is how God is. Oh but the faithful son was NOT like his father! He was mad and angry, jealous and unforgiving, he was thinking about HIS faithfulness. HIS obedience, yet here was his father accepting this knothead brother back with a feast. And so many believers in God have " Morphed into this brother of the prodical son aittitude." They don't want God to forgive, because it does not seem fair to them.

Salvation IS NOT based on the faithfulness of those who remain faithful, its based on the Father, and the Father ALONE!

We simply do not know the Fathers personality like we think we do.

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Well it seems the faithful son wasn't really faithful afterall...
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K.Snyder;901979 wrote: :yh_ooooo



Well it seems the faithful son wasn't really faithful afterall...




Well I think he was faithful, but he was " Other things" as well. Its the other things that I see in him. He was unforgiving of his brother. He was angry at his Father for welcoming his brother home, which is in essence being envious of the Fathers affection being directed at a disobedient son. He was " searching for reasons for his father to be like him", judgemental and strict. And the Father put him to shame as he displayed all the fruits of the Spirit in his display of Love for this sinful son. And I see modernday christianity as I do this brother of the prodical son, they are the same. Preaching this eternal hell doctrine and teaching that God will condemn all sinners and unbelievers. And christianity will be put to this same shame.

Notice Isaiah 45:24, this is Gods aittitude after he has drawn all of sinful humanity back to him;"They will say of me, Only in the Lord are Righteousness and strength, Men will come to him, and ALL who were ANGRY at him will be put to SHAME." Christians who expected God to condemn all the prodical sons of the earth, will be surprised and angry that God will forgive and welcome sinful humanity back to him, and throw a great feast for them. Their hell doctrine will be put to shame , and they themselves will be put to shame. But God Loves them too.

We all have so much to learn about Gods personality, and I want to go into that. Peace.
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God has a dominant personality, and thats for sure! Yet if you try to view his dominance as a wrathful aspect of his reality, as if he is bullying his creations or overpowering us by the sheer weight of his power, then you can miss out on understanding his personage. God IS a ruler, he is dominant, but his dominance is ALWAYS based on and expressed by, ALL the fruits of the Spirit! God rules by his Kindness, his Goodness, and all the residents in heaven already know this and are benefiting from it, we humans are just not aware of this at this time.

But now God IS dominant, he is in complette control, inspite of the religious effort to push this free will teaching, its God who is working on the will of man. Phil.2:13;" For IT IS GOD who is at work IN you, BOTH to will and to work." Both our will and our work, or our everyday thinking and living, is being directly influenced and done by God, even unbelief is worked into the human physce by God. Phil. 1:29, even belief in God is given by God, belief in him is not a free will decision. 2Corinth. 5:14, " The Love of Christ CONTROLS US." Gods personality is controlling his creations, NOT allowing them to free will decide as they wish. But to really know how God is, once you have been given an insite to his Love and Goodness, you just Love him back and Love his control.

And I want to go into that.

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God doesn't have a personality. Only humans do. That's why there is the Trinity. Jesus might've had a personality but God does not!

Mickiel, you have a strong personality and you talk too much!

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watermark;902917 wrote: God doesn't have a personality. Only humans do. That's why there is the Trinity. Jesus might've had a personality but God does not!

Mickiel, you have a strong personality and you talk too much!

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Well I admit to perhaps having a strong personality, and to talking a lot. Perhaps you shouldnot listen to what I have to share. Its just probally not for you.

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In Revelations 21:3;" And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, " Behold, the tabernacle of God is amoung men, and he shall dwell amoung them, and they shall be his people, and GOD HIMSELF shall be amoung them." Oh what a time this will be, God himself will be with us, certainly connotating that he is NOT yet with us. Far too many religious believers have cried wolf and claim that God is now amoung us, but he most defintely is not. When God moves on this scene, sin and evil will be totally gone. This is our destiny, and God knows this, so all that is now going on is meaningless to God, he will enlighten us when he is ready for that. Which shows a very great Patience that God has.

Generation after generation of humans have suffered, and now we suffer and cry out to God! Yet God waits, he has not made his move. We are in agony, yet still God waits. So then part of Gods personality is patience, self restraint and control. He is enduring and composed. Calm and moderate in his actions. God is cool and easy going, placid and content.

And this is the Spirit that will totally engulf all of humanity, and those who God comes close to now, will be personally effected by this in their personality.

And I want to touch on that some.

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Do you ever even read what you type ? Have you any idea what it is you think you are trying to get people to think you believe ?

Why am I asking you these questions? Because I copy and pasted your desciptions of what you[receive to be " The personality of God." and want others to think you believe The list if you will is in the order that you posted as I read down the posts I Copy & Pasted them as I came to them. I do not intend to have a conversation with you on the subject of God . Thats not why I'm asking you these quewstions, please noye my questions are not about God or his personality. My questions are to you ,about you f,or you to explaine about your post.



I have not taken anything 'out of context' as I have mentioned they are in the order you posted them in . The three with ?? before and after are preticurlly confusing when applied to the subjct matter of your post.



So God has to be withdrawn

God is very, VERY patient

God is Longsuffering

christians have misinterpited

God Loves because he likes to Love

but who knows whats going on in heaven

So God IS NOT like us

God is REASONANT

I think its really a shame what people have done with the perceived personality of God

??People actually believe that other people can explain how God is.??

God is Gentle

Gods wrath is his " Reaction to Sin",

When God decided to create humanity, he also created a volitle mixture of Sin, Evil and suffering and death, NONE of these things existed before humans did. So they exist " For our benefit!" Wicked people need Gods blessing to, and I think more than good people do

??the " Spiritual Human" tendency to search for reasons why WE think God should condemn others??

God has a dominant personality

But the Fruit of the Spirit,( Or what Gods personality is like), is Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and Self Control." THESE ARE Gods Personality! Listen, THIS IS what God is like. These concepts ARE GOD

God WILL Judge, God WILL get angry, God WILL destroy, but based on HIS ways and Means

Salvation IS NOT based on the faithfulness of those who remain faithful, its based on the Father, and the Father ALONE!

??We simply do not know the Fathers personality like we think we do.??

Christians who expected God to condemn all the prodical sons of the earth, will be surprised and angry that God will forgive and welcome sinful humanity back to him, and throw a great feast for them. Their hell doctrine will be put to shame , and they themselves will be put to shame. But God Loves them too.

So then part of Gods personality is patience, self restraint and control. He is enduring and composed. Calm and moderate in his actions. God is cool and easy going, placid and content.

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scholle-kid;904179 wrote: Do you ever even read what you type ? Have you any idea what it is you think you are trying to get people to think you believe ?

Why am I asking you these questions? Because I copy and pasted your desciptions of what you[receive to be " The personality of God." and want others to think you believe The list if you will is in the order that you posted as I read down the posts I Copy & Pasted them as I came to them. I do not intend to have a conversation with you on the subject of God . Thats not why I'm asking you these quewstions, please noye my questions are not about God or his personality. My questions are to you ,about you f,or you to explaine about your post.



I have not taken anything 'out of context' as I have mentioned they are in the order you posted them in . The three with ?? before and after are preticurlly confusing when applied to the subjct matter of your post.



So God has to be withdrawn

God is very, VERY patient

God is Longsuffering

christians have misinterpited

God Loves because he likes to Love

but who knows whats going on in heaven

So God IS NOT like us

God is REASONANT

I think its really a shame what people have done with the perceived personality of God

??People actually believe that other people can explain how God is.??

God is Gentle

Gods wrath is his " Reaction to Sin",

When God decided to create humanity, he also created a volitle mixture of Sin, Evil and suffering and death, NONE of these things existed before humans did. So they exist " For our benefit!" Wicked people need Gods blessing to, and I think more than good people do

??the " Spiritual Human" tendency to search for reasons why WE think God should condemn others??

God has a dominant personality

But the Fruit of the Spirit,( Or what Gods personality is like), is Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and Self Control." THESE ARE Gods Personality! Listen, THIS IS what God is like. These concepts ARE GOD

God WILL Judge, God WILL get angry, God WILL destroy, but based on HIS ways and Means

Salvation IS NOT based on the faithfulness of those who remain faithful, its based on the Father, and the Father ALONE!

??We simply do not know the Fathers personality like we think we do.??

Christians who expected God to condemn all the prodical sons of the earth, will be surprised and angry that God will forgive and welcome sinful humanity back to him, and throw a great feast for them. Their hell doctrine will be put to shame , and they themselves will be put to shame. But God Loves them too.

So then part of Gods personality is patience, self restraint and control. He is enduring and composed. Calm and moderate in his actions. God is cool and easy going, placid and content.






Well I don't understand you either. I can't seem to make out what your asking from me. I really do not see what your questions are. In my view, seeing that you do not understand me, and I certainly do not understand anything you are trying to say, I think it best that we just do not talk with each other.

I don't see where it could get. If what I have written is causing you any problems or confusion, stop reading it. It just maynot be for you.

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I certainly don't want to appear to not wish to dialog with anyone, but I can only reason with the reasonable. And I think this kind of thing is evident of how unreason on spiritual matters have gripped humanity in a very tight grip. People have all kinds of warped things in their belief, its just the truth. Its just a very sad thing. Really sad. Gods true personality has NOT spread into humanity, and THAT is the core reason for mental illness, for sick and perverted views of God, and for all the mental problems that humanity has experienced. BECAUSE God has NOT revealed himself to humanity, humanity suffers from that.

And I want to detour into that, as it relates to what has occured with humanity because God has not shed his personage on humanity.

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Mickiel;904966 wrote: Well I don't understand you either. I can't seem to make out what your asking from me. I really do not see what your questions are. In my view, seeing that you do not understand me, and I certainly do not understand anything you are trying to say, I think it best that we just do not talk with each other.



I don't see where it could get. If what I have written is causing you any problems or confusion, stop reading it. It just maynot be for you.



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Ok, Now I understand ,

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scholle-kid;905927 wrote: Ok, Now I understand ,

Thank you


And good fortune to you on your journey. It is not for all of us to understand each other, there are many people I simply cannot understand, nor agree with. So I simply wish them well and move on.

We simply need Gods help in understanding others, goodness, we need his help in trying to understand ourselves as well.

But I wish you well and Peace.
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God has a personality, all conscious life does. And I want to re examine what we can know about Gods personality. And what we cannot know.
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Mickiel;1421320 wrote: God has a personality, all conscious life does. And I want to re examine what we can know about Gods personality. And what we cannot know.Is God's personality like yours and mine as in we didn't get to choose ours?
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Ahso!;1421323 wrote: Is God's personality like yours and mine as in we didn't get to choose ours?




Gods personality is nothing like any humans. Gods personality is perfect, we don't even have the mental capacity to comprehend such perfection. There is no choice in Gods reality; there is only his way.
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Mickiel;1421329 wrote: Gods personality is nothing like any humans. Gods personality is perfect, we don't even have the mental capacity to comprehend such perfection. There is no choice in Gods reality; there is only his way.But you said personality. Personality implies quirks and other traits. Perhaps personality was a poor choice of words?
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Ahso!;1421334 wrote: But you said personality. Personality implies quirks and other traits. Perhaps personality was a poor choice of words?




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Mickiel;1421343 wrote: Any view of God through human eyes will be a poor result.Including yours?
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Ahso!;1421346 wrote: Including yours?


Including mine, yes.
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Mickiel;1421353 wrote: Including mine, yes.So, being generous, any statement you make regarding God is questionable?
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Ahso!;1421356 wrote: So, being generous, any statement you make regarding God is questionable?


Of course, yes.
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Mickiel;1421361 wrote: Of course, yes.Do you then think God approves of your imprecise representation of him? It seems to me that God would only have himself represented in a perfect light. Anything else would be below him. No?
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Ahso!;1421367 wrote: Do you then think God approves of your imprecise representation of him? It seems to me that God would only have himself represented in a perfect light. Anything else would be below him. No?


I don't represent God, and have never claimed to.
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Mickiel;1421372 wrote: I don't represent God, and have never claimed to.Well, when someone talks about you to others, wouldn't you prefer they knew and understood you precisely? Anything else would be a false representation, right?
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Ahso!;1421386 wrote: Well, when someone talks about you to others, wouldn't you prefer they knew and understood you precisely? Anything else would be a false representation, right?




I wish I did know God, I think he is quite something. Just examining him from a distance, not knowing him but just a few things about him, is simply stunning. God must have Great Zeal, powerful determination and historic drive; and hold all of reality together while he is sponsoring our destiny. I think he is a very positive being, and failure is not even in his thinking; its just not possible for him to fail;

and that trips me out about God; he cannot fail. I mean how does he even do that?
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How can we even relate to a being that has never failed; because we have failed so much; he is so different than us. I mean how can we even approach this Great God, this being of perfection; this being of unlimited wisdom and power; I mean he is a God. Would he even let us approach him? I mean what could we even say to him? Will he listen? Is he even aware of us?
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Part of the personality of God is patience, and his patience is legendary in heaven. God can " Wait", and he can out wait anybody! He is waiting now, hiding himself, holding himself back, just being patient with all things concerning humans.
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God is Kind; he is nice and has a sweet disposition. He is humble in his greatness; although he is God, he is happy and content with himself and his ways. God is not angry or sullen, he is not mean spirited or tempormental. And when he speaks his kindness can be heard, that's WHY all of heaven loves to worship him; they know how God really is;

when the God is kind the people rejoice!
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The personality of God is framed by Love, paced by Love, ignited by Love, tempered by Love, and carried by his Love. His Spirit is Love, conversely his Love is Spirit. His whole atmosphere and existence is Spirit, something I wish I understood; I am asking for that understanding. I think it would be quite something to be opened to understanding God's Spirit world, and to understand his Love. If a human just had that understanding, their entire conscious being would be vastly improved. It is impossible to not be effected by God when you are exposed to him at any level; but the closer the level, the more deep the effect.
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God has one personality, James 2:19, he does not have three. The trinity doctrines are all deception; God is one; there is only one God. He has one personality, but he may have upwards of 7 different consciousness. Rev. 4:5 speaks of " The Seven Spirits of God"; I am not 100 % sure, but this may mean that God has seven different consciousness, which would be incredible.
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I don't pretend to know God, all I can really do is speculate;

Its all any of us can do;

But I bet, I mean I would bet my life, that God has a personality that is out of sight!
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In my speculation of God, and its speculation because I just really don't know him, I always eventually keep going to Gal. 5: 22-23 in any proper description of him and his ways and means. The personality of God, whatever it is, must include these fruit of the Spirit; I see no way around this. These fruit are Godly character that God produced within himself! Things and ways that he gave himself! Its possible that he always has had these ways, but I know that he has " Increased these ways, their levels, within himself." Job 40:10, "Adorn YOURSELF with eminence and Dignity!" Here God is revealing that he created parts of himself, or improved or expanded on himself! And I understand that something like this will be very hard for certain believers to swallow.
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Mickiel;1433798 wrote: In my speculation of God, and its speculation because I just really don't know him, I always eventually keep going to Gal. 5: 22-23 in any proper description of him and his ways and means. The personality of God, whatever it is, must include these fruit of the Spirit; I see no way around this. These fruit are Godly character that God produced within himself! Things and ways that he gave himself! Its possible that he always has had these ways, but I know that he has " Increased these ways, their levels, within himself." Job 40:10, "Adorn YOURSELF with eminence and Dignity!" Here God is revealing that he created parts of himself, or improved or expanded on himself! And I understand that something like this will be very hard for certain believers to swallow.




This is hard to speculate on; but many have asked the question, " How did God get here, who created him?" I would say he most definitely created parts of himself!
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