Woman President dangerous?

cars · Post by **cars** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:04 am

I'm afraid this may sound sexist, but should it be of any real concern? I just heard a conversation where someone mentioned that what if elected, the worst happened after McCain took office? And then Palin took over. She already has been "nicknamed" the "Barricuda" for her brand of politics! Now finding herself in charge of a "World-Power", would Palin once a month be more likely a threat to be in a "push-the-button" mode, during that PMS time of the month? (Judging from our oldest Daughter during PMS time, most likely our Daughter would. Thank Goodness she's not running for office:)) It's true, there are checks and balances in place, to keep things in perspective. However, ultimately the Comander & Chief has the extremely overbearing hand in it all!

(Margaret Thatcher comes to mind as PM in 79, seemed level headed, but she may have been past the PMS age)

Thoughts/ comments?!

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:09 am

I dunno

i have often thought my husband has monthlies:-3:wah:

Rapunzel · Post by **Rapunzel** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:37 am

kazalala;982797 wrote: I dunno

i have often thought my husband has monthlies:-3:wah:

I agree. Men have a monthly cycle too. It may not be as obvious as ours but it still affects them mentally. :sneaky:

Also, I don't think you can take problems like that to work with you. Women in pain will take paracetamol where men will probably try to bear the pain and be grouchy, imo anyway. For worse problems we see the doctor where men will probably try to avoid the doctor, also imo. In a professional environment you have to act like a professional, regardless of how you feel. You wouldn't be promoted to senior rank if you couldn't deal with stuff like that.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:42 am

Rapunzel;982812 wrote: I agree. Men have a monthly cycle too. It may not be as obvious as ours but it still affects them mentally. :sneaky:

Also, I don't think you can take problems like that to work with you. Women in pain will take paracetamol where men will probably try to bear the pain and be grouchy, imo anyway. For worse problems we see the doctor where men will probably try to avoid the doctor, also imo. In a professional environment you have to act like a professional, regardless of how you feel. You wouldn't be promoted to senior rank if you couldn't deal with stuff like that.

Yep,, i think it has a lot more to do with the character of a person than the gender:)

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:12 am

I'm sure any pms issue would have been exposed by now if it existed. If not, you can be sure the anti-Palin blogs will ferret it out.

QUINNSCOMMENTARY · Post by **QUINNSCOMMENTARY** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:44 am

Whether you like her or not, I somehow think she could handle any related criticism (which I think is a non issue).

During last nights TV interview she was asked if she could handled the job and take care of seven people in her family (a dumb and jaded question given two of them are adult or near adult children and two are her and her husband), she replied she did it as governor and many others have already done it in any case...and then added, but of course, they were men.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:39 pm

When Lady Margaret Thatcher first came to power in England, my father said this "Anything that bleeds for a week & still lives must be viewed with suspicion".:p:p:p

cars · Post by **cars** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:07 pm

QUINNSCOMMENTARY;982938 wrote: Whether you like her or not, I somehow think she could handle any related criticism (which I think is a non issue).

During last nights TV interview she was asked if she could handled the job and take care of seven people in her family (a dumb and jaded question given two of them are adult or near adult children and two are her and her husband), she replied she did it as governor and many others have already done it in any case...and then added, but of course, they were men.

Actually, for the short time she has been in the "spotlight" and the way she handled herself, I'm favoriably inclined to like her!!! There's still time before that big Tuesday, for her to "shine" more, or if it turns out less. I suspect it will be more!

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:09 pm

oscar;983121 wrote: When Lady Margaret Thatcher first came to power in England, my father said this "Anything that bleeds for a week & still lives must be viewed with suspicion".:p:p:p

I find that really tasteless and an insult to women. It's really not funny.

No I'm sure, once a month as Palin lies naked in her Moon Hut, bleeding onto a mat of reeds, while her menstruating sister women recline bleeding onto their mats of reeds, the village men who don't comprehend simple bodily functions, and fear all-powerful women during their moon time, will go off to war.

Of course the women who perpetuate this myth aren't helping the situation much. Educate your men! What does it say when a man thinks a woman president would be an irrational button pusher once a month? Stop talking about chocolate and butcher knives and giving bad impressions, Women!

I mean that's as bad as saying if McCain doesn't get any from his wife, is he going to start WW3?

A woman president will do fine. She's not to be feared once a month.

She 's to be feared all the time!! :wah:

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:13 pm

RedGlitter;983238 wrote: Of course the women who perpetuate this myth aren't helping the situation much. Educate your men!
That's okay. I'm good. :-3

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:14 pm

I'd rather have Hillary than Palin as prez. Smarter. Just MO.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:17 pm

qsducks;983253 wrote: I'd rather have Hillary than Palin as prez. Smarter. Just MO.I'd rather have Ron Paul. Come on, I'll buy the first round.

cars · Post by **cars** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:31 pm

It has been said, some women don't suffer much from PMS at all! Hope Palin is one of them! And I also realize that "men" can act hormonal as well, and can be SOB's for days on end! This whole PMS discusion could turn out be a mute point, if Barack gets in! Then it would be, the "testirone mode"! :wah:

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:41 pm

and you don't think men have their moods?

yes they do!

also with women, ever heard of menopause?

:wah:

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:00 pm

jimbo;983262 wrote: i think a woman prezzie could work wonder for the US

And what is that dude in the background smoking and drinking?:):-3

Okie · Post by **Okie** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:36 pm

cars;982794 wrote: I'm afraid this may sound sexist, but should it be of any real concern? I just heard a conversation where someone mentioned that what if elected, the worst happened after McCain took office? And then Palin took over. She already has been "nicknamed" the "Barricuda" for her brand of politics! Now finding herself in charge of a "World-Power", would Palin once a month be more likely a threat to be in a "push-the-button" mode, during that PMS time of the month? (Judging from our oldest Daughter during PMS time, most likely our Daughter would. Thank Goodness she's not running for office:)) It's true, there are checks and balances in place, to keep things in perspective. However, ultimately the Comander & Chief has the extremely overbearing hand in it all!

(Margaret Thatcher comes to mind as PM in 79, seemed level headed, but she may have been past the PMS age)

Thoughts/ comments?!

My biggest problem with Sarah is she would appoint many federal judges and with her radical right wing views the court would be stacked with hardnosed Republicans. She has tried to get books banned that did not fit with her religion.lShe wants Creationism taught in school and she wants Roe Wade overturned and I dont think she is entirely honest in that she keeps saying how she stopped the bridge to nowhere. But she helped to get the money for it first. And then did not return the money. She also wants to stop loobyinst but she hired a lobbyist to get money for Alaska.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:17 pm

I would have rather had Hiliary but we also knew that would have never been acceptable........because she is a woman.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:20 pm

Okie;983442 wrote: My biggest problem with Sarah is she would appoint many federal judges and with her radical right wing views the court would be stacked with hardnosed Republicans. She has tried to get books banned that did not fit with her religion.lShe wants Creationism taught in school and she wants Roe Wade overturned and I dont think she is entirely honest in that she keeps saying how she stopped the bridge to nowhere. But she helped to get the money for it first. And then did not return the money. She also wants to stop loobyinst but she hired a lobbyist to get money for Alaska.

She is part of the Federalist Society and look what they've done to this country and courts.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:10 am

Okie;983442 wrote: My biggest problem with Sarah is she would appoint many federal judges and with her radical right wing views the court would be stacked with hardnosed Republicans. She has tried to get books banned that did not fit with her religion.lShe wants Creationism taught in school and she wants Roe Wade overturned and I dont think she is entirely honest in that she keeps saying how she stopped the bridge to nowhere. But she helped to get the money for it first. And then did not return the money. She also wants to stop loobyinst but she hired a lobbyist to get money for Alaska.The bolded sentence is not true. She explained in an interview that she asked the librarian about the legalities of banning books because a resident asked the question of her.

The rest is true, though, except the lobbyist was for her city, not the state.

shelbell · Post by **shelbell** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:49 am

Yes Cars you were right...this does sound sexist.

cars · Post by **cars** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:36 am

Just for the record, I wasn't even "considering McCain", until he picked "Palin"! Now, I'm leaning towards his camp! McCain said he favors change on the hill. And if he's elected, and he doesn't show enough change, or any change at all for that matter, I suspect Palin will have a heavy infulence on forcing him to abide by his promises!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:48 am

cars;983704 wrote: Just for the record, I wasn't even "considering McCain", until he picked "Palin"! Now, I'm leaning towards his camp! McCain said he favors change on the hill. And if he's elected, and he doesn't show enough change, or any change at all for that matter, I suspect Palin will have a heavy infulence on forcing him to abide by his promises!
You don't mean ..................... the MAMA STARE?!?

cars · Post by **cars** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:58 am

Accountable;983720 wrote: You don't mean ..................... the MAMA STARE?!?

That, and the twista-the-arm manuver!

And it would be hands down, if he went away for one reason or another!

(Then we'd see Sarah in all her glory!)

librtyhead · Post by **librtyhead** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:06 am

Hoss;983595 wrote: Of a BBgun? :-3
That's a good photoshop job.

cars · Post by **cars** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:06 pm

librtyhead;983738 wrote: That's a good photoshop job.
BB gun, there was a BB gun!

:p :wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:16 pm

RedGlitter;983238 wrote: I find that really tasteless and an insult to women. It's really not funny.

No I'm sure, once a month as Palin lies naked in her Moon Hut, bleeding onto a mat of reeds, while her menstruating sister women recline bleeding onto their mats of reeds, the village men who don't comprehend simple bodily functions, and fear all-powerful women during their moon time, will go off to war.

Of course the women who perpetuate this myth aren't helping the situation much. Educate your men! What does it say when a man thinks a woman president would be an irrational button pusher once a month? Stop talking about chocolate and butcher knives and giving bad impressions, Women!

I mean that's as bad as saying if McCain doesn't get any from his wife, is he going to start WW3?

A woman president will do fine. She's not to be feared once a month.

She 's to be feared all the time!! :wah:didn't mean to offend you Red Glitter

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:19 pm

Okie;983442 wrote: My biggest problem with Sarah is she would appoint many federal judges and with her radical right wing views the court would be stacked with hardnosed Republicans. She has tried to get books banned that did not fit with her religion.lShe wants Creationism taught in school and she wants Roe Wade overturned and I dont think she is entirely honest in that she keeps saying how she stopped the bridge to nowhere. But she helped to get the money for it first. And then did not return the money. She also wants to stop loobyinst but she hired a lobbyist to get money for Alaska.

Ever hear of the Federalist Society? Scary.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:02 pm

qsducks;984123 wrote: Ever hear of the Federalist Society? Scary.
Scary?

http://www.fed-soc.org/aboutus/

Our Purpose

Law schools and the legal profession are currently strongly dominated by a form of orthodox liberal ideology which advocates a centralized and uniform society. While some members of the academic community have dissented from these views, by and large they are taught simultaneously with (and indeed as if they were) the law.

The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities.

This entails reordering priorities within the legal system to place a premium on individual liberty, traditional values, and the rule of law. It also requires restoring the recognition of the importance of these norms among lawyers, judges, law students and professors. In working to achieve these goals, the Society has created a conservative and libertarian intellectual network that extends to all levels of the legal community.

Seems to be a good thing at first glance. What am I missing?

cars · Post by **cars** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:32 am

First glance looks good here as well!

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:30 am

oscar;984122 wrote: didn't mean to offend you Red Glitter

You didn't Oscar. Just that bleeding thing. I've heard it before and never liked it. But you didn't offend me.

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:40 am

pfft! throughout history it's been mostly men who have chosen to go to war with each other.

Women would just insult each other's choices in shoes or whatever. :p

:wah:

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:19 am

sunny104;984370 wrote: pfft! throughout history it's been mostly men who have chosen to go to war with each other.

Women would just insult each other's choices in shoes or whatever. :p

:wah:

Are you kidding? history's full of stories of warrior queens and warrior women, even the bible has them. What do you think sheba was for example, odds are she was black as well. Mongol women fought alongside their men and they did so in many other cultures as well.

http://www.lothene.demon.co.uk/others/womenprehist.html

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:26 am

Did anyone see Tina Fey on SNL the other night acting as Sarah Palin?:wah:

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:29 am

gmc;984430 wrote: Are you kidding? history's full of stories of warrior queens and warrior women, even the bible has them. What do you think sheba was for example, odds are she was black as well. Mongol women fought alongside their men and they did so in many other cultures as well.

http://www.lothene.demon.co.uk/others/womenprehist.html

I was kidding.

are you cranky from being a bit too cold from walking the highlands in your kilt this morning? :p

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:31 am

Woman President dangerous?

No good.

That will just get us into a world of ****.

We gotta find a way to pacify them.......

Im willing to ease up on remote control rules.

Guys ?

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:32 am

Accountable;984134 wrote: Scary?

http://www.fed-soc.org/aboutus/

Our Purpose

Law schools and the legal profession are currently strongly dominated by a form of orthodox liberal ideology which advocates a centralized and uniform society. While some members of the academic community have dissented from these views, by and large they are taught simultaneously with (and indeed as if they were) the law.

The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities.

This entails reordering priorities within the legal system to place a premium on individual liberty, traditional values, and the rule of law. It also requires restoring the recognition of the importance of these norms among lawyers, judges, law students and professors. In working to achieve these goals, the Society has created a conservative and libertarian intellectual network that extends to all levels of the legal community.

Seems to be a good thing at first glance. What am I missing?

On it's head maybe. The two latest justices are from this band of "let's turn America backwards regarding civil and women's rights".

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:07 am

qsducks;984439 wrote: Did anyone see Tina Fey on SNL the other night acting as Sarah Palin?:wah:

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:15 am

Nomad;984482 wrote:

Perfect.:wah:

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:01 pm

sunny104;984445 wrote: I was kidding.

are you cranky from being a bit too cold from walking the highlands in your kilt this morning? :p

:yh_rotfl So was I, kidding I mean. No I wasn't cold being soaked to the skin takes your mind off the cold, though the rain does discourage the midges somewhat. Scotland used to be covered in temperate rain forest, now all we have is the rain and no forests. Actually I'm not a teuchter anyway.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:17 pm

qsducks;984451 wrote: On it's head maybe. The two latest justices are from this band of "let's turn America backwards regarding civil and women's rights".
I don't understand.

Hope6 · Post by **Hope6** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:11 pm

i have a hard time thinking that people are actually worried that a woman president could be in danger of starting WW3 because of pms!

i guess it's because i don't have that much problem with pms, i don't have mood swings or anything, so i don't know anything about that!

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:13 pm

Hope6;986015 wrote: i have a hard time thinking that people are actually worried that a woman president could be in danger of starting WW3 because of pms!

i guess it's because i don't have that much problem with pms, i don't have mood swings or anything, so i don't know anything about that!

I cant even let myself think about it.

We wouldnt last a day.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:49 am

gmc;984549 wrote: :yh_rotfl So was I, kidding I mean. No I wasn't cold being soaked to the skin takes your mind off the cold, though the rain does discourage the midges somewhat. Scotland used to be covered in temperate rain forest, now all we have is the rain and no forests. Actually I'm not a teuchter anyway. They also found Polar bear bones in Scotland as well. Proof there is no global warming, it's a natural event every few thousand years. It won't change because man is on the earth.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:51 am

Hope6;986015 wrote: i have a hard time thinking that people are actually worried that a woman president could be in danger of starting WW3 because of pms!

i guess it's because i don't have that much problem with pms, i don't have mood swings or anything, so i don't know anything about that! They said the same about Thatcher but there again she did get us into a pointless Falklands war.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:41 am

I'm not worried about a woman president pushing the button. First, she'd have to find it. Then, she's have to change the colour. Then, she'd want shoes to match, then the decor of the Oval office etc etc then finally, she'd change her mind.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:32 am

oscar;986481 wrote: I'm not worried about a woman president pushing the button. First, she'd have to find it. Then, she's have to change the colour. Then, she'd want shoes to match, then the decor of the Oval office etc etc then finally, she'd change her mind.

:yh_rotfl good job she's not a northern (english northern that is ) lass she would just lash out and feel sorry afterwards and god help anyone that didn't do as they were told.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:42 am

gmc;986547 wrote: :yh_rotfl good job she's not a northern (english northern that is ) lass she would just lash out and feel sorry afterwards and god help anyone that didn't do as they were told.

im a northern lass:sneaky: