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I woke up this morning to see that the world's most powerful (and lately much derided) democratic nation has democratically elected a man whose father was a black agnostic muslim from Kenya in Africa and whose mother was a white Christian woman from Kansas; (and who was brought up fatherless and relatively poor in Hawai by his grandmother) to be its first citizen, and the most powerful man in the world.

I realize that not everyone wanted Barak Obama to win this election, and are worried about what comes next; but I can assure you of one thing, you have sent the strongest message possible to the world that America is truly an exceptional place where the idea of democracy and equality of opportunity are not just empty formulas.

It is impossible to overstate how great an impact this is going to have on the way people view America from the outside, and much for the better. In recent times most people in the rest of the world had become more afraid of America than admiring, but I think that this election will completely change that perception once more back to a positive one. Of course policies and events will dictate what happens in the future, but for now at least, many people will once more look to the USA and dare to hope in a better future.

On September 12th 2001 I queued with thousands of other shocked Irish people to sign a book of condolence after the dreadful attacks on New York and Washington; in Ireland people have always seen America as a beacon of liberty and a place where Irish people had been welcomed and had prospered, but since that time I and many other people had become increasingly disillusioned about the global direction that the US seemed to have taken since those bruising events.

We all know that many things have gone very wrong in recent times. Now, I feel that the ordinary American people over there have given us all a chance to start again, in the most extraordinary way. It is wonderful and uplifting and I salute you for making such an extraordinary thing possible, whatever your political persuasion.

Thank you America, these are difficult times, you have given me and a lot of other people out here in the rest of the world some hope. Not that magic wands can be waved to solve all problems, thats a pipe dream; but hope that truly "nothing is inevitable", and in some places in the world, much remains possible. :yh_flag :-6
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Super fab post Galbally...:-6:-6

I agree with every word.

Exciting times ahead for us all :-6
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Well congratulations America. I was beginning to think you didn't have it in you to stay a proper liberal democracy and were heading towards being a right wing corporatist state. You've come pretty close over the last eight years. No matter what happens next you've gone a long way to restore the respect GW and his ilk have lost for America around the world. Hopefully GW won't do anything stupid in the next few weeks.
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Great words Galbally....eloquent as ever.



I have family in America who voted for Obama..........my neice and nephew are in the American forces and have served in Afghanistan etc....I'm so proud to be associated with the USA and it's people.



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True words said here and indeed.......Thankyou America:-4:-4:-4
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Yes.

It was a most unusual day yesterday.

Standing in line waiting to vote was filled with anticipation for most. There was a buzz, people were excited and eager.

My precinct votes in a church and as I was inching forward children were playing in the grass. One mother was balancing a toddler as the little one tried to take little steps, wobbling and stepping. Her mother was beaming.

I was too.

I equated my little steps, all of our little steps, each voter that moved closer to their chance to vote all across America to that little girls steps.

We wobble and fall but we keep trying.

Im very proud of my fellow Americans today.

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I can’t remember the last time I woke up to the world so happy and full of hope:-6
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Yeah, yeah, gays can soon marry in wholesale lots and unborn infants will be slaughtered without worry, and we'll live happily ever after. Just like you euro's. Not.
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Galbally;1046314 wrote: I woke up this morning to see that the world's most powerful (and lately much derided) democratic nation has democratically elected a man whose father was a black agnostic muslim from Kenya in Africa and whose mother was a white Christian woman from Kansas; (and who was brought up fatherless and relatively poor in Hawai by his grandmother) to be its first citizen, and the most powerful man in the world.

I realize that not everyone wanted Barak Obama to win this election, and are worried about what comes next; but I can assure you of one thing, you have sent the strongest message possible to the world that America is truly an exceptional place where the idea of democracy and equality of opportunity are not just empty formulas.

It is impossible to overstate how great an impact this is going to have on the way people view America from the outside, and much for the better. In recent times most people in the rest of the world had become more afraid of America than admiring, but I think that this election will completely change that perception once more back to a positive one. Of course policies and events will dictate what happens in the future, but for now at least, many people will once more look to the USA and dare to hope in a better future.

On September 12th 2001 I queued with thousands of other shocked Irish people to sign a book of condolence after the dreadful attacks on New York and Washington; in Ireland people have always seen America as a beacon of liberty and a place where Irish people had been welcomed and had prospered, but since that time I and many other people had become increasingly disillusioned about the global direction that the US seemed to have taken since those bruising events.

We all know that many things have gone very wrong in recent times. Now, I feel that the ordinary American people over there have given us all a chance to start again, in the most extraordinary way. It is wonderful and uplifting and I salute you for making such an extraordinary thing possible, whatever your political persuasion.

Thank you America, these are difficult times, you have given me and a lot of other people out here in the rest of the world some hope. Not that magic wands can be waved to solve all problems, thats a pipe dream; but hope that truly "nothing is inevitable", and in some places in the world, much remains possible. :yh_flag :-6


Then perhaps this election was all worth it even for those of us who do not want America to take a turn toward the liberal left. Congress tends to misread the American people when these types of elections occur and overuse their so-called mandate with the result of them receiving their comeuppance two years later, conservative or liberal doesn't matter. It will remain to be seen if the left leaning Democrats read the history books.
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Well I guess it's good that someone's happy, because this household isn't.
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hoppy;1046388 wrote: Yeah, yeah, gays can soon marry in wholesale lots and unborn infants will be slaughtered without worry, and we'll live happily ever after. Just like you euro's. Not.


If you knew the first thing about us "Euro" types, you would realize that in my country (The Republic of Ireland, an EU member state) we don't actually have laws permitting same sex marraige, also we don't have any mechamism for legal abortions, we don't allow euthenasia, and we don't have the general availability of hand guns, we are catholic christians, and we are a liberal democracy, with an economy based on market capitalism (just like in America), oh, and we speak English.

I am not commenting on the wisdom or otherwise of those policies and identities we posses, but before your going to insult me, learn something about who you are insulting you ignorant buffoon. ;)
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Well said Dr. G it is a new day in America and a new day around the world. One for the History books. I think only time will tell how this new leader of ours will do. I believe even those who disagree with him will be surprised at his abilities to lead this Country out of its present despair. With the entire world watching he has a very big job ahead of him, I for one think he can do it.

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If Bush blowed hell outa Iran before he left office, we'd see what Obama and his merry band of 'crats are made of.
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Hoss;1046489 wrote: I wasn't in despair till now.


There is no need to despair, if you feel that strongly you can help the Republicans to get reorganized over the next few years and come back in the Congressional Mid Term, and the 2012 Presidential elections. If enough of your fellow citizens agree with you, your party (or at least the people who share your outlook) will regain some of the positions they have lost. Thats how your system works, and mine, so there is no need to despair.

Like everyone else, I really don't know how President Elect Obama will be once he gains office, thats the nature of change. I am sure it will impossible to live up to some of the more ridiculous expectations being made of him, but he can hardly be any worse than the last President.

I would remain sanguine, you may end up being pleasantly surprised that he is not quite the liberal wolf in the conservative sheep pen you worry about. I think he more of a realist than many peolpe realize, and certainly not quite as wet a liberal as he is being painted by his political opponents. In fact funnily enough I don't think that there were that many differences between Obama and McCain on many of the big polices, as the election campaign would have made you believe.

I certainly don't see him trying to convert the population of the USA to not having guns or bringing in very liberal social policies on abortion or gay marraige, as any politican can only rule by consent. The US is generally a conservative nation, and anyone who trys to lead it has to take cognisance of that fact.
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hoppy;1046388 wrote: Yeah, yeah, gays can soon marry in wholesale lots and unborn infants will be slaughtered without worry, and we'll live happily ever after. Just like you euro's. Not.


Also, I'm basing that last opinion on this post only, not on you personally, because I don't know you, but that's a ridiculously snide and insulting comment. Anyway, moving on. :-6
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JAB;1046741 wrote: It's 'nice' to see that the rest of the world is happy even if half of the US citizens may not be.

Obama promised everything to everyone. Let's see how well he does when folks start showing up expecting the fulfillment of those promises.


I think its inevitable that no one can live up to the euphoria that Obama has generated abroad, and also in America itself. Like you said, the hard work will begin now, and given the nature of the problems that face the US and the West in general, going to be extremely difficult for Obama and everyone else in power to undo what has been done. We are still in very, very serious trouble and its going to take years to turn around the economic and geopolitcal mess that the West is now in.

I personally believe that President Obama is very much a hard-nosed realist and a consensus builder, and that is what America needs right now. He also understand the outside world a lot better than the previous president, and that should make the job of repairing US diplomacy much easier. However, I don't think he is going to be "weak", Bush was weak, he has undermined his own country through the unthinking use of military and economic resources on hubristic self-absorbed projects that have brought the US to the brink of economic bankrupcy and military failure.

Thats the politics, I think at this time, it is important to take in the symbolism and say that something truly remarkable happened in this American election, and it has hugely improved America's reputation in the world, as a place that lives up to its own dreams. That has to be a positive outcome.

Of course, life and politics go on in America and everywhere else. Also, of course, the real test of Obama will be whether he can steer the country on a new course out of this terrible current mess. That remains to be seen, right now my advice is to bask in the goodwill and remember what its like for your country to be loved by ordinary people for showing its more noble, idealistic side again.
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Galbally;1046765 wrote: I think its inevitable that no one can live up to the euphoria that Obama has generated abroad, and also in America itself. Like you said, the hard work will begin now, and given the nature of the problems that face the US and the West in general. We are still in very, very serious trouble and its going to take years to turn around the economic and geopolitcal mess that the West is now in.

I believe that President Obama is very much a hard-nosed realist and a consensus builder, and that is what America needs right now. He also understand the outside world a lot better than the previous president, and that should make the job of repairing US diplomacy much easier. However, I don't think he is going to be "weak", Bush was weak, he has undermined his own country through the unthinking use of military and economic resources on hubristic self-absorbed projects that have brought the US to the brink of economic bankrupcy and military failure.

Thats the politics, I think at this time, it is important to take in the symbolism and say that something truly remarkable happened in this American election, and it has hugely improved America's reputation in the world, as a place that lives up to its own dreams. That has to be a positive outcome, of course life and politics go on in America and everywhere else. Also, of course, the real test of Obama will be whether he can steer the country on a new course out of this terrible current mess. That remains to be seen, right now my advice is to bask in the goodwill and remember what its like for your country to be loved by ordinary people for showing its more noble, idealistic side again.


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Well, the sun did in fact rise in the sky this morning!!!I saw it!!! To the surprise & fear of many that felt it may not have if Obama was elected!!! Actually, aside from the fact that Obama is handsome, has style, carisma, and elequently told the general populace what they wanted to hear, the loudest message of his being elected was to send/give a big ol smack in the face of GWB!!! McBush, & or McSame as they were refering to McCain didn't even stand a chance in hell of defeating Barrack! McCain's defeat was the people's way to finally give some "payback" to GWB, with the only weapon the people had!!! The VOTE!!!

Anyway, I am hopefull that Barrack will try to live up to most of his promisses that he made to the people who elected him! Time will tell.
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QUINNSCOMMENTARY;1046400 wrote: Then perhaps this election was all worth it even for those of us who do not want America to take a turn toward the liberal left. Congress tends to misread the American people when these types of elections occur and overuse their so-called mandate with the result of them receiving their comeuppance two years later, conservative or liberal doesn't matter. It will remain to be seen if the left leaning Democrats read the history books.


What qualifies as a Congressional mandate, in your opinion?
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gmc;1046321 wrote: No matter what happens next you've gone a long way to restore the respect GW and his ilk have lost for America around the world.You have to be kidding.

In four years time I'll check what's happened to reverse the catastrophe of the last eight years and if it turns out he did it then fine. He's certainly not going to get my confidence until I've seen it happen. America is so far out on a rogue limb that I have the severest doubts it can ever bring itself back to normality. I think America's forgotten what normal is and one Democrat President isn't going to mend matters, however impressive a man he might be.

He's getting not the least hint of credit from me until he's acted.
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Galbally;1046478 wrote: If you knew the first thing about us "Euro" types, you would realize that in my country (The Republic of Ireland, an EU member state) we don't actually have laws permitting same sex marraige, also we don't have any mechamism for legal abortions, we don't allow euthenasia, and we don't have the general availability of hand guns, we are catholic christians, and we are a liberal democracy, with an economy based on market capitalism (just like in America), oh, and we speak English.

I am not commenting on the wisdom or otherwise of those policies and identities we posses, but before your going to insult me, learn something about who you are insulting you ignorant buffoon. ;)


I don't give a rat's butt about how insulted you are. Ireland, great land that it is, is not the whole of europe, buffoon. But maybe that's the only place you've been. That might explain your ignorance.
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hoppy;1046847 wrote: I don't give a rat's butt about how insulted you are. Ireland, great land that it is, is not the whole of europe, bufoon. But maybe that's the only place you've been. That might explain your ignorance.


Given how evidently annoyed you are by the Election results, are you likely to do all you can to help the US out of its current difficulties or are you more likely to try to trip the new administration at every opportunity?
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spot;1046852 wrote: Given how evidently annoyed you are by the Election results, are you likely to do all you can to help the US out of its current difficulties or are you more likely to try to trip the new administration at every opportunity?


I posted my opinion like the rest of you, got called a buffoon and answered that insult. I made a general reference to the whole of europe. Not a specific reference to any one country.
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hoppy;1046863 wrote: I posted my opinion like the rest of you, got called a buffoon and answered that insult. I made a general reference to the whole of europe. Not a specific reference to any one country.


That's nice for you.

Given how evidently annoyed you are by the Election results, are you likely to do all you can to help the US out of its current difficulties or are you more likely to try to trip the new administration at every opportunity?
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I'm gonna speak my mind.
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Why don't you jump galbally's butt, he started this BS.
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hoppy;1046869 wrote: I'm gonna speak my mind.


So "we must work together to get this country moving again" is entirely meaningless waffle on the part of John McCain in your opinion? It carries no weight at all with you?
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hoppy;1046870 wrote: Why don't you jump galbally's butt, he started this BS.


Because "gays can soon marry in wholesale lots and unborn infants will be slaughtered without worry, and we'll live happily ever after. Just like you euro's" was unadulterated idiocy. Galbally prefers to discuss matters with fewer hostile lies being thrown back and forth and your post was so adrift from reality that he exploded. Gays don't marry in England either. The abortion laws in England are no different to your own and just as Galbally says, abortion is illegal in Ireland just as it is in some other parts of Europe. Are there any parts of the US where it's illegal? I thought not.
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Don't be trying to steer me into directions I didn't intend to go. Let me ask you, does any of europe allow gay marriage? Does any of europe allow abortions? Did I specify Ireland in my original post?
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hoppy;1046885 wrote: Don't be trying to steer me into directions I didn't intend to go. Let me ask you, does any of europe allow gay marriage? Does any of europe allow abortions? Did I specify Ireland in my original post?


I don't know of any country in Europe where gay marriage is legal. Someone might correct me but I'm reasonably sure I'm right that no country here allows it.

Some countries in Europe allow abortions. So does all of America. Some countries in Europe forbid abortions. No part of America forbids abortions. What's your point?

Ireland's a typical member country of the European Union. Rather more typical than the UK is.
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You might check the Netherlands out for gay marriage. A few other places look to be teetering that way. I have no more time to look into abortion.

So, it looks like I stated fact, as far as it went. I see no reason for the name calling. I see no reason to get uptight over what I said. And as long as we all agree I'm right, everything will be fine. Lol.

That was a joke.
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hoppy;1046917 wrote: You might check the Netherlands out for gay marriage. A few other places look to be teetering that way. I have no more time to look into abortion. What do you need to look into abortion for? What is it you think about abortion that differs from what I've told you? I honestly haven't a clue where your problem is in comparing European and American practice there.

The Netherlands, Belgium, Canada, Norway, South Africa, and Spain have legislation permitting civil unions to be called marriage. Only Spain so far has no distinction between gay and heterosexual marriage. The others, including the Netherlands, as with US gay civil contract unions, have differences on adoption, pension rights, inheritance, all different depending on whether you're same-sex or not. All except Spain. Spain's in the European Union. It's scarcely representative of Europe as a whole. Unlike Ireland.
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Fine. I'm happy for you. Now, excuse me, I have most of a case of Czechvar to drink.
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hoppy;1046944 wrote: Fine. I'm happy for you. Now, excuse me, I have most of a case of Czechvar to drink.


Before you kill a few more of those already sparse brain cells, how about a line on "we must work together to get this country moving again". Is it entirely meaningless waffle on the part of John McCain in your opinion? Does it carry no weight at all with you?"
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hoppy;1046870 wrote: Why don't you jump galbally's butt, he started this BS.


Jump Galbally's butt?? Good god man, we don't do that over here, its illegal. :wah:

I already said (if you go back through this thread) that the comment about bufoonery was based on that one post only, claiming that Europe (and I count myself a European) was a haven of gay marriages resulting in early term abortions, and mercy killings to a kraftwerk soundtrack, played on a stereo made by socialists in a factory in Hungary, and not on you as a person as I don't know you, I made that point quite clear I thought.

It was a pretty stupid comment you made and I responded in kind, If it was over the top then I apologize. Its not my intention to get into a fight in this thread, I am trying to be nice about America not slag it off, and you are entitled to your opinion, even if it involves spot and my goddamn butt.

I just get so tired of listening to this claptrap about Europe, I admit we are all Bach-listening, Balzac-quoting, nazi-commie, health-socializing, porn-watching, cooked meet eating ner-do-wells, but we are not all gay, thats only the gay community. :thinking:
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Galbally;1046961 wrote: Jump Galbally's butt?? Good god man, we don't do that over here, its illegal. :wah: Good God, is *that* what it means??

I thought he meant hopscotch.

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hoppy;1046944 wrote: Fine. I'm happy for you. Now, excuse me, I have most of a case of Czechvar to drink.


Thats European beer you know, watch out you may get the urge to collectivize your towns health insurance if you drink too much of it. :wah:
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Most eloquent and spot on.....
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hoppy;1046869 wrote: I'm gonna speak my mind.


As I told the ex 'think your mind before speaking it'
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Galbally;1046314 wrote: I woke up this morning to see that the world's most powerful (and lately much derided) democratic nation has democratically elected a man whose father was a black agnostic muslim from Kenya in Africa and whose mother was a white Christian woman from Kansas; (and who was brought up fatherless and relatively poor in Hawai by his grandmother) to be its first citizen, and the most powerful man in the world.

I realize that not everyone wanted Barak Obama to win this election, and are worried about what comes next; but I can assure you of one thing, you have sent the strongest message possible to the world that America is truly an exceptional place where the idea of democracy and equality of opportunity are not just empty formulas.

It is impossible to overstate how great an impact this is going to have on the way people view America from the outside, and much for the better. In recent times most people in the rest of the world had become more afraid of America than admiring, but I think that this election will completely change that perception once more back to a positive one. Of course policies and events will dictate what happens in the future, but for now at least, many people will once more look to the USA and dare to hope in a better future.

On September 12th 2001 I queued with thousands of other shocked Irish people to sign a book of condolence after the dreadful attacks on New York and Washington; in Ireland people have always seen America as a beacon of liberty and a place where Irish people had been welcomed and had prospered, but since that time I and many other people had become increasingly disillusioned about the global direction that the US seemed to have taken since those bruising events.

We all know that many things have gone very wrong in recent times. Now, I feel that the ordinary American people over there have given us all a chance to start again, in the most extraordinary way. It is wonderful and uplifting and I salute you for making such an extraordinary thing possible, whatever your political persuasion.

Thank you America, these are difficult times, you have given me and a lot of other people out here in the rest of the world some hope. Not that magic wands can be waved to solve all problems, thats a pipe dream; but hope that truly "nothing is inevitable", and in some places in the world, much remains possible. :yh_flag :-6


Your welcome. As an American, I realize that politicians, all politicians, have plans for their terms in office if they are elected as President. Obama may not be able to accomplish all of his goals for this country. But, I do feel the hope. I do feel the optimism. We are still in for hard times..........this I know. Circumstances will not change overnight. One of Obama's jobs will be "damage control". And this is a mighty big task in itself.
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along-for-the-ride;1046997 wrote: Your welcome. As an American, I realize that politicians, all politicians, have plans for their terms in office if they are elected as President. Obama may not be able to accomplish all of his goals for this country. But, I do feel the hope. I do feel the optimism. We are still in for hard times..........this I know. Circumstances will not change overnight. One of Obama's jobs will be "damage control". And this is a mighty big task in itself.


Yes, I totally agree with your point, my own point was just a comment on the actual election of such a candidate, that is very symbolic in itself. Of course whether he will be good as a US President or make the right decisions for his country remains to be seen, hopefully he be effective in dealing with the problems, I think your right in that at the moment, its really damage control and that goes for Europe as well, we are all in the toilet bowl together at the moment.
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Galbally;1046314 wrote: I woke up this morning to see that the world's most powerful (and lately much derided) democratic nation has democratically elected a man whose father was a black agnostic muslim from Kenya in Africa and whose mother was a white Christian woman from Kansas; (and who was brought up fatherless and relatively poor in Hawai by his grandmother) to be its first citizen, and the most powerful man in the world.

I realize that not everyone wanted Barak Obama to win this election, and are worried about what comes next; but I can assure you of one thing, you have sent the strongest message possible to the world that America is truly an exceptional place where the idea of democracy and equality of opportunity are not just empty formulas.

It is impossible to overstate how great an impact this is going to have on the way people view America from the outside, and much for the better. In recent times most people in the rest of the world had become more afraid of America than admiring, but I think that this election will completely change that perception once more back to a positive one. Of course policies and events will dictate what happens in the future, but for now at least, many people will once more look to the USA and dare to hope in a better future.

On September 12th 2001 I queued with thousands of other shocked Irish people to sign a book of condolence after the dreadful attacks on New York and Washington; in Ireland people have always seen America as a beacon of liberty and a place where Irish people had been welcomed and had prospered, but since that time I and many other people had become increasingly disillusioned about the global direction that the US seemed to have taken since those bruising events.

We all know that many things have gone very wrong in recent times. Now, I feel that the ordinary American people over there have given us all a chance to start again, in the most extraordinary way. It is wonderful and uplifting and I salute you for making such an extraordinary thing possible, whatever your political persuasion.

Thank you America, these are difficult times, you have given me and a lot of other people out here in the rest of the world some hope. Not that magic wands can be waved to solve all problems, thats a pipe dream; but hope that truly "nothing is inevitable", and in some places in the world, much remains possible. :yh_flag :-6
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CARLA;1046486 wrote: Well said Dr. G it is a new day in America and a new day around the world. One for the History books. I think only time will tell how this new leader of ours will do. I believe even those who disagree with him will be surprised at his abilities to lead this Country out of its present despair. With the entire world watching he has a very big job ahead of him, I for one think he can do it.



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Yes, and it helps to have the media in your back pocket(s) too. He will do just fine and we will all feel the spreadin o de wealth...eh Carla.

Let's see now what was that first thing he promised???

Oh that's right he changed that in his acceptance speech, and now we ALL gotta sacrifice......HUH? He never said that until he was elected.

UH OH!!!!!!

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spot;1046812 wrote: What qualifies as a Congressional mandate, in your opinion?


Quite a bit more than 51% of the vote in my view. The last time the Republicans had such a sweep they acted like idiots as if they had a mandate and could do anything they wanted, that lasted only a few years and whack, the mandate evaporated.
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spot;1046852 wrote: Given how evidently annoyed you are by the Election results, are you likely to do all you can to help the US out of its current difficulties or are you more likely to try to trip the new administration at every opportunity?


Do yo mean like the Demorats did President Bush for 8 years?

They stood behind him come hell or high water and we should fall right in line with em today, eh?

Do you realize how many enemies the demorats have created over 8 years of constant back stabbing?

Nope, I do not see it getting any better, only worse off than ever...
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