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Yesterday I was in NYC for one of my very infrequent visits. My wife and I attended a play in Lincoln Center; the audience was a sell out with not an empty seat. The tickets were $125 each (a fact my wife failed to mention when she said we were going to a play) and people were trying to buy them from us as we entered. Parking under Lincoln Center was $30.00.
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
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Sure, its not like 95 percent of people are going to be broke next week. However, go do exactly the same thing in 12 months, I bet it will be a bit different then.
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QUINNSCOMMENTARY;1052977 wrote: Yesterday I was in NYC for one of my very infrequent visits. My wife and I attended a play in Lincoln Center; the audience was a sell out with not an empty seat. The tickets were $125 each (a fact my wife failed to mention when she said we were going to a play) and people were trying to buy them from us as we entered. Parking under Lincoln Center was $30.0
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
Well, we are waiting for the bottom to drop out. Need an excellent plumber?
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
Well, we are waiting for the bottom to drop out. Need an excellent plumber?
What Recession?
QUINNSCOMMENTARY;1052977 wrote: Yesterday I was in NYC for one of my very infrequent visits. My wife and I attended a play in Lincoln Center; the audience was a sell out with not an empty seat. The tickets were $125 each (a fact my wife failed to mention when she said we were going to a play) and people were trying to buy them from us as we entered. Parking under Lincoln Center was $30.00.
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
If you have a good well paid secure job recessions are great. Everything is cheaper from cars to stereos. Interest rates are low and you have money to spend. If you are one of the poor schmucks that gets downsized and can't pay your bills life is not so rosy. The kind of people that will pay $125 to go see a play are not exactly on the bread line are they? Even at the height of the depression in the 1930's there were people with money to burn.
Are you really suggesting that any recession is only real if it affects you personally?
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
If you have a good well paid secure job recessions are great. Everything is cheaper from cars to stereos. Interest rates are low and you have money to spend. If you are one of the poor schmucks that gets downsized and can't pay your bills life is not so rosy. The kind of people that will pay $125 to go see a play are not exactly on the bread line are they? Even at the height of the depression in the 1930's there were people with money to burn.
Are you really suggesting that any recession is only real if it affects you personally?
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QUINNSCOMMENTARY;1052977 wrote: Yesterday I was in NYC for one of my very infrequent visits. My wife and I attended a play in Lincoln Center; the audience was a sell out with not an empty seat. The tickets were $125 each (a fact my wife failed to mention when she said we were going to a play) and people were trying to buy them from us as we entered. Parking under Lincoln Center was $30.00.
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
There is always money to do the things that are important to us.
What play did you see?
Was the evening worth the $280 (plus dinner) price tag?
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
There is always money to do the things that are important to us.
What play did you see?
Was the evening worth the $280 (plus dinner) price tag?
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gmc;1053065 wrote: If you have a good well paid secure job recessions are great. Everything is cheaper from cars to stereos. Interest rates are low and you have money to spend. If you are one of the poor schmucks that gets downsized and can't pay your bills life is not so rosy. The kind of people that will pay $125 to go see a play are not exactly on the bread line are they? Even at the height of the depression in the 1930's there were people with money to burn.
Are you really suggesting that any recession is only real if it affects you personally?
Not suggesting that at all, but I was suggesting exactly the point you made in your first sentence, and that represents a good portion of the population even today. Of course, the "well paid" part is debatable, but even before any recession or down turn that was true.
And certainly NYC is not representative of America. There are certainly areas that are truly hurting, but to hear the news tell it there are foreclosed homes on every corner and people can't afford the basics of life and that is not true either for the vast majority of people.
As you said, if you have the same job you had three years ago, what has changed?
Are you really suggesting that any recession is only real if it affects you personally?
Not suggesting that at all, but I was suggesting exactly the point you made in your first sentence, and that represents a good portion of the population even today. Of course, the "well paid" part is debatable, but even before any recession or down turn that was true.
And certainly NYC is not representative of America. There are certainly areas that are truly hurting, but to hear the news tell it there are foreclosed homes on every corner and people can't afford the basics of life and that is not true either for the vast majority of people.
As you said, if you have the same job you had three years ago, what has changed?
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:wah: You and I move in two different worlds, Uncle Quinn. In my world, we stay home and watch Pay Per View on TV and maybe munch on popcorn or a pizza.
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QUINNSCOMMENTARY;1053109 wrote: Not suggesting that at all, but I was suggesting exactly the point you made in your first sentence, and that represents a good portion of the population even today. Of course, the "well paid" part is debatable, but even before any recession or down turn that was true.
And certainly NYC is not representative of America. There are certainly areas that are truly hurting, but to hear the news tell it there are foreclosed homes on every corner and people can't afford the basics of life and that is not true either for the vast majority of people.
As you said, if you have the same job you had three years ago, what has changed?
I think you have a point in that you seem to have a totally self-referencing and self-obsessed media thrives on making people alarmed and on peddling guttersnipe sensationalism. I am afraid the same media industry that has been telling you for years that America was brilliant in every way, every where else was mostly rubbish and full of commies, and you had the best of everything compared to everyone, without really putting forth anything to back that up, is now going to turn and say that America is terrible and is destined for imminent destruction, with equally little validity. It sells copy though doesn't it?
And certainly NYC is not representative of America. There are certainly areas that are truly hurting, but to hear the news tell it there are foreclosed homes on every corner and people can't afford the basics of life and that is not true either for the vast majority of people.
As you said, if you have the same job you had three years ago, what has changed?
I think you have a point in that you seem to have a totally self-referencing and self-obsessed media thrives on making people alarmed and on peddling guttersnipe sensationalism. I am afraid the same media industry that has been telling you for years that America was brilliant in every way, every where else was mostly rubbish and full of commies, and you had the best of everything compared to everyone, without really putting forth anything to back that up, is now going to turn and say that America is terrible and is destined for imminent destruction, with equally little validity. It sells copy though doesn't it?
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As you said, if you have the same job you had three years ago, what has changed?
No pay increase, only an increase in muber of jobs I have to make ends meet.
Costs have increased for food and gas, although petrol is getting lower right now. But utilities have increased 80% in the last year here, a bad sign with winter on the way.
No pay increase, only an increase in muber of jobs I have to make ends meet.
Costs have increased for food and gas, although petrol is getting lower right now. But utilities have increased 80% in the last year here, a bad sign with winter on the way.
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along-for-the-ride;1053228 wrote: :wah: You and I move in two different worlds, Uncle Quinn. In my world, we stay home and watch Pay Per View on TV and maybe munch on popcorn or a pizza.
Pay per view?? Man, that's posh! We go to Redbox and rent a dvd for a buck.
Pay per view?? Man, that's posh! We go to Redbox and rent a dvd for a buck.
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QUINNSCOMMENTARY;1052977 wrote: Yesterday I was in NYC for one of my very infrequent visits. My wife and I attended a play in Lincoln Center; the audience was a sell out with not an empty seat. The tickets were $125 each (a fact my wife failed to mention when she said we were going to a play) and people were trying to buy them from us as we entered. Parking under Lincoln Center was $30.00.
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
I am glad to hear that the economy on Planet Quinn is doing so well. But on Planet Earth there is a recession.
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
I am glad to hear that the economy on Planet Quinn is doing so well. But on Planet Earth there is a recession.
What Recession?
QUINNSCOMMENTARY;1052977 wrote: Yesterday I was in NYC for one of my very infrequent visits. My wife and I attended a play in Lincoln Center; the audience was a sell out with not an empty seat. The tickets were $125 each (a fact my wife failed to mention when she said we were going to a play) and people were trying to buy them from us as we entered. Parking under Lincoln Center was $30.00.
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
T'was just the same during the Great Depression - the Haves partied whilst the Have Nots starved.
After the show we tried to get into three different restaurants and the wait was between 45 minutes and an hour.
The other main theater at Lincoln Center also had a performance that afternoon and evening and both were sold out as well.
I wonder if people did not read the paper or listen to television and radio would they be acting as if there was a recession.
Certainly in NYC there were many thousands of people who appeared to be unaffected¦or didn’t care. :-2:-2:-2:-2
T'was just the same during the Great Depression - the Haves partied whilst the Have Nots starved.
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Galbally;1053260 wrote: I think you have a point in that you seem to have a totally self-referencing and self-obsessed media thrives on making people alarmed and on peddling guttersnipe sensationalism. I am afraid the same media industry that has been telling you for years that America was brilliant in every way, every where else was mostly rubbish and full of commies, and you had the best of everything compared to everyone, without really putting forth anything to back that up, is now going to turn and say that America is terrible and is destined for imminent destruction, with equally little validity. It sells copy though doesn't it?
Excellent point. If no one had been listening to the news the last several years, then everyone might have realized we were walking into quicksand years ago. But when the media keeps putting out the "everything is great" message, each person just thinks it is them who are not doing so well.
Excellent point. If no one had been listening to the news the last several years, then everyone might have realized we were walking into quicksand years ago. But when the media keeps putting out the "everything is great" message, each person just thinks it is them who are not doing so well.
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Kindle;1053072 wrote: There is always money to do the things that are important to us.
What play did you see?
Was the evening worth the $280 (plus dinner) price tag?
South Pacific and it wasn't worth the money or standing in the cold waiting to get into a restaurant, but don't tell my wife.
What play did you see?
Was the evening worth the $280 (plus dinner) price tag?
South Pacific and it wasn't worth the money or standing in the cold waiting to get into a restaurant, but don't tell my wife.
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wildhorses;1053314 wrote: I am glad to hear that the economy on Planet Quinn is doing so well. But on Planet Earth there is a recession.
Touche'
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I had to lay off two people in the last two weeks. It is a hard thing to do, and very upsetting for staff, but they have no idea just how many more it could have been.
I spent a month justifying my headcount showing productivity numbers, efficiency improvements the works. They don’t see what goes on in the background but as much as I lost two people I know for a fact that I also saved two people, but of course I can never tell them that.
Expenses right across the board have been cut to the point of almost ridiculous, some of the smallest ‘nice to have’s’ have been cut to the point that even I a getting frustrated.
I believe that the real challenge for business is to get the balance right between cutting costs and keeping staff motivated or a company could start their own self destruction from the inside.
In recession things get tight, and in some cases you require cut back and have layoffs, it is unavoidable. However, the flip side is that the employees that remain still need to be motivated and need to enjoy coming to work. Twice already by boss has said ‘they are lucky to still have jobs’, but that is not entirely true because it still works both ways. The company is still also lucky to have a good workforce that continues to deliver.
If the company stops taking care of the people that are not let go on the assumption that they believe that the employees should just be grateful to have work, then people start to become unmotivated, disillusioned, and employee turn rate starts to increase (disperse recession), work quality suffers and company continues on a downward spiral.
I think that businesses need to continue to take care of those who remain with the company, continue to make it a good place to work, and keep the staff mind set recession proof as much as possible. This way people will continue to feel good about coming to work, thus be happy for having a job and continue to deliver quality work which could be the difference between a company surviving or not.
I spent a month justifying my headcount showing productivity numbers, efficiency improvements the works. They don’t see what goes on in the background but as much as I lost two people I know for a fact that I also saved two people, but of course I can never tell them that.
Expenses right across the board have been cut to the point of almost ridiculous, some of the smallest ‘nice to have’s’ have been cut to the point that even I a getting frustrated.
I believe that the real challenge for business is to get the balance right between cutting costs and keeping staff motivated or a company could start their own self destruction from the inside.
In recession things get tight, and in some cases you require cut back and have layoffs, it is unavoidable. However, the flip side is that the employees that remain still need to be motivated and need to enjoy coming to work. Twice already by boss has said ‘they are lucky to still have jobs’, but that is not entirely true because it still works both ways. The company is still also lucky to have a good workforce that continues to deliver.
If the company stops taking care of the people that are not let go on the assumption that they believe that the employees should just be grateful to have work, then people start to become unmotivated, disillusioned, and employee turn rate starts to increase (disperse recession), work quality suffers and company continues on a downward spiral.
I think that businesses need to continue to take care of those who remain with the company, continue to make it a good place to work, and keep the staff mind set recession proof as much as possible. This way people will continue to feel good about coming to work, thus be happy for having a job and continue to deliver quality work which could be the difference between a company surviving or not.
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That kind of stuff frustrates the hell out of me. "Justify your job. Justify why you need the people you have." I'll bet the bosses had no trouble justifying their staffs, even patting themselves on the back for not hiring even more secretaries.
A good boss would at least show some empathy for your position. She/he would explain the rationale behind looking at all facets to find the best places to trim a little.
A good boss would at least show some empathy for your position. She/he would explain the rationale behind looking at all facets to find the best places to trim a little.
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Accountable;1053696 wrote: That kind of stuff frustrates the hell out of me. "Justify your job. Justify why you need the people you have." I'll bet the bosses had no trouble justifying their staffs, even patting themselves on the back for not hiring even more secretaries.
A good boss would at least show some empathy for your position. She/he would explain the rationale behind looking at all facets to find the best places to trim a little.
Unfortunately it is the reality and part of the normal process.
This is done even in good times. You just don’t just get to go out and hire whoever you want when times are good, you also need to justify workload and the reasons for growing your department when you need more staff. It is just the way business works, it only sounds worse when it involves downsizing.
The reality is, that business has slowed down and (unfortunately) I can actually afford (from a workload perspective) to reduce the office by two with no real impact on others workload. I was able to show that I still needed the other two and that cutting them would have significant impact on the business.
Although it is popular to think that bosses don’t need to justify their staff, they do, there is always a bigger fish. By boss was supportive and accepted the argument to save the other jobs, so I can’t fault by boss there. My only issue is with the growing attitude of cutting everything that makes the job enjoyable (just announced today that they are cutting the Christmas party budget by 50%), and starting to imply that ‘people are lucky to have jobs’. I don’t agree with that, as much as I am happy with my job, I know that I am good at it and am not ‘grateful’ to them for employing me. I see it more as a symbiotic relationship, because I know (unfortunately from experience) that if they needed to, they would cut my job as well if they had to without a second thought.
It’s just business.
A good boss would at least show some empathy for your position. She/he would explain the rationale behind looking at all facets to find the best places to trim a little.
Unfortunately it is the reality and part of the normal process.
This is done even in good times. You just don’t just get to go out and hire whoever you want when times are good, you also need to justify workload and the reasons for growing your department when you need more staff. It is just the way business works, it only sounds worse when it involves downsizing.
The reality is, that business has slowed down and (unfortunately) I can actually afford (from a workload perspective) to reduce the office by two with no real impact on others workload. I was able to show that I still needed the other two and that cutting them would have significant impact on the business.
Although it is popular to think that bosses don’t need to justify their staff, they do, there is always a bigger fish. By boss was supportive and accepted the argument to save the other jobs, so I can’t fault by boss there. My only issue is with the growing attitude of cutting everything that makes the job enjoyable (just announced today that they are cutting the Christmas party budget by 50%), and starting to imply that ‘people are lucky to have jobs’. I don’t agree with that, as much as I am happy with my job, I know that I am good at it and am not ‘grateful’ to them for employing me. I see it more as a symbiotic relationship, because I know (unfortunately from experience) that if they needed to, they would cut my job as well if they had to without a second thought.
It’s just business.
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along-for-the-ride;1053228 wrote: :wah: You and I move in two different worlds, Uncle Quinn. In my world, we stay home and watch Pay Per View on TV and maybe munch on popcorn or a pizza.
I don't want to spend money on Pay Per View, heck I don't even have HBO or any of those "extra" channels. If I go to a play once every two years it's a lot and then only at my wife's request. I'd rather take a walk in the woods or on the beach myself.
I don't want to spend money on Pay Per View, heck I don't even have HBO or any of those "extra" channels. If I go to a play once every two years it's a lot and then only at my wife's request. I'd rather take a walk in the woods or on the beach myself.
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JAB;1053480 wrote: I thinks it's evident in the restaurants. Last week I organized a business dinner for 10 people at a very popular restaurant near our office. Normally this place is packed with the bar area full of people waiting for tables. On this particular night, the restaurant was half full. The owner/chef even came out to thank us for coming in.
What part of the Country?
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QUINNSCOMMENTARY;1053109 wrote: Not suggesting that at all, but I was suggesting exactly the point you made in your first sentence, and that represents a good portion of the population even today. Of course, the "well paid" part is debatable, but even before any recession or down turn that was true.
And certainly NYC is not representative of America. There are certainly areas that are truly hurting, but to hear the news tell it there are foreclosed homes on every corner and people can't afford the basics of life and that is not true either for the vast majority of people.
As you said, if you have the same job you had three years ago, what has changed?
i have the same job i had three years ago, my hours have been cut right down, as staff have left for various reasons ( maternity leave, re location ) they have not been replaced.
our elderly population are struggling to pay heating bills already and its not even cold here yet.
they say that because of house repossesion, there will be five million people waiting for our local authorities to re home them by 2012.
this is all happening in a tiny corner of southwest england and its pretty darn scarey !!!
And certainly NYC is not representative of America. There are certainly areas that are truly hurting, but to hear the news tell it there are foreclosed homes on every corner and people can't afford the basics of life and that is not true either for the vast majority of people.
As you said, if you have the same job you had three years ago, what has changed?
i have the same job i had three years ago, my hours have been cut right down, as staff have left for various reasons ( maternity leave, re location ) they have not been replaced.
our elderly population are struggling to pay heating bills already and its not even cold here yet.
they say that because of house repossesion, there will be five million people waiting for our local authorities to re home them by 2012.
this is all happening in a tiny corner of southwest england and its pretty darn scarey !!!
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Helen;1053984 wrote:
i have the same job i had three years ago, my hours have been cut right down, as staff have left for various reasons ( maternity leave, re location ) they have not been replaced.
our elderly population are struggling to pay heating bills already and its not even cold here yet.
they say that because of house repossesion, there will be five million people waiting for our local authorities to re home them by 2012.
this is all happening in a tiny corner of southwest england and its pretty darn scarey !!!
If your pay hours have been cut then I would not consider that the same job.
Are you saying that five million people will lose their homes because they can't pay their mortgages, that seems like a real high percentage of the population.
i have the same job i had three years ago, my hours have been cut right down, as staff have left for various reasons ( maternity leave, re location ) they have not been replaced.
our elderly population are struggling to pay heating bills already and its not even cold here yet.
they say that because of house repossesion, there will be five million people waiting for our local authorities to re home them by 2012.
this is all happening in a tiny corner of southwest england and its pretty darn scarey !!!
If your pay hours have been cut then I would not consider that the same job.
Are you saying that five million people will lose their homes because they can't pay their mortgages, that seems like a real high percentage of the population.
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