What would you guys do???

[SuzyB]

As many of you know I have been battling with my weight for years now, I gained 4 stones after my hospital blunder, according to the pyschatrists many people with severe PTSD either become alcholoics, drug addicts or food addicts, I have become the later :-5:-5

Well here I am now at the heaviest I have ever been and I'm feeling pretty down on myself, but I have been offered what I'd consider a lifeline, my Doctor applied for funding for me to have a gastric bypass, the funding has been approved and I have passed the pyschatrists evaluation and just waiting to see dietician. Now this is all well and good but I am really wondering if this is the only option for me.

I have many allergies and have problems with pain relief and anthestic, I started a diet when I went into hospital and have lost half a stone but I think that was more down to feeling so rough I wouldn't eat I really dont feel that I have the strength and longevity to see through an 8 stone weight loss.

So what seemed like an answer to my prayers has now become another thing to worry and obsess about :-5

SO guys I would love to know your views

[kazalala]

Oh dear suzy i dont know what i would do honestly,, but i just wanted to say summat to give you some support:-4 i think if you are worried about having the op and dreading it,, it dont seem right to do then,, mind if i had to have an op you would have to sneak up behind me and knock me out with a hammer. I know you have just had knee surgery and have problems with them so excercise is not really an option ( i found i have lost weight since walking th dog twice a day every day and no change at all to my diet) i dont know what i weighed, but i was a size 16/18 and i stil have those clothes but had to buy a belt:wah:but i got a delivery from my catalogue this morning and one of the tops i tried on i was thinking hmm well its ok but a bit snug and if it shinks when i wash it, it will be too small,,, when i tool it off and looked it was a size 12!!!!!! i would have known straight away a year ago before i even tried to get it past my shoulders:wah: maybe you could try swimming?? and dont diet,, just change what you eat,,, eat as much as you want but only healthy stuff,,,, or mosstly healthy stuff:sneaky:

[along-for-the-ride]

I feel for ya, Suzy. I've never had gastric bypass surgery so I can't advise you on that. Seems to me the best way to lose weight..and the safest...is to do a lifestyle change. Meaning that you still eat, but eat less. Meaning that you pay attention to what you eat. Meaning that you become more active, or do more fun excercise....even walking. The weight loss does take time and does not happen over night.

Being "stressed out" is not helpful to you. Why do you really want to lose the weight? Just to look "better" or to be more healthy. Your pics already show me that you look good. So, to be more healthy, I see a lifestyle change and weight loss over a period of time. But, you must relax and enjoy your life too.

[Odie]

weight loses is never easy, I have been battling it all of my life, up and down, up and down.

Do you have the strength to do any sort of exercise? what about walking?

starting everyday with only doing a couple of minutes and very gradually increasing your walks.

If it is to cold outside, you can drive to a mall and walk there.

-try eating no cards or fattening foods, pasta included......and yes its hell!



you can also do stretches on each part of your body, slowly again to start.

Some think when starting an exercise program to start full speed ahead......this is not true......you start off by just a minute or two each day...when you feel pain...it is injuring your body.



there are tons of low-fat foods to choose from, everything from Danone o% fat yogurt, the best one out there, and you can add any fruit, mix it up in a blender until thick and smooth, yogurt is also very good for you.

rice krispie squares

lots of low-fat granola bars

3 ounces of meat only....no need to measure, that is the size of a deck of cards.

you can have as many vegetables as you want, just watch the intake of butter.

watch your fresh fruits as they have alot of natural sugar in them, so just have a couple per day.



you can still have all of your favorite foods, but in moderation.



hope this helps!

[SuzyB]

Thanks guys for your replies, all exercise other than swimming is out for me due to my knees and back being knackered :-5 I cant even go swimming at the moment as my left knee which they did is as bad as ever!

Thats the problem I do know how to change my lifestyle I just can't seem to implement those changes and that is all down to my mental health :-5

[Odie]

SuzyB;1071828 wrote: Thanks guys for your replies, all exercise other than swimming is out for me due to my knees and back being knackered :-5 I cant even go swimming at the moment as my left knee which they did is as bad as ever!

Thats the problem I do know how to change my lifestyle I just can't seem to implement those changes and that is all down to my mental health :-5


just try and cut down on your intake.

My SIL had gastric bypass, she can only eat a bit of food at a time, she lost weight really fast!



but.........there are good and bad things to it.

[SuzyB]

Odie;1071837 wrote: just try and cut down on your intake.

My SIL had gastric bypass, she can only eat a bit of food at a time, she lost weight really fast!


Thats the problem, i can't eat in moderation, i think a lot of it is due to being a 'fruitcake' i eat even when i'm not hungry, i seem to take pleasure in making myself look and feel worse, I know that sounds crazy but hey ho!

That is the most tempting thing about the bypass, i know that within 18months all of my flab will be gone, but thats if I made it through the surgery :rolleyes::)

[kazalala]

SuzyB;1071828 wrote: Thanks guys for your replies, all exercise other than swimming is out for me due to my knees and back being knackered :-5 I cant even go swimming at the moment as my left knee which they did is as bad as ever!

Thats the problem I do know how to change my lifestyle I just can't seem to implement those changes and that is all down to my mental health :-5


i thought excercise could be a no go for you at the momentwhy dont you try just doing one or two little things at a time,, instead of changing your whole lifestyle at once,,, too much for you at the mo,,, try just cutting out one thing,, or two if you can manage,, you will find after a certain amount of time it wont bother you that you dont eat that any more. start slowly,, just cut out say,,, pastry,,, i did that before and after a couple of months didnt even fancy it any more. Dont deny yourself any treats,,, just cut them down to half,, little steps suzy, little steps:D

[mikeinie]

Suzy, I can’t imagine what you must be going through, I am only 1 stone over weight and struggle getting into an exercise routine, or anything regular.

I am not in a position to give any advice; my only comment is with regards to your health. It cannot be healthy, and the physical and mental health, I believe are connected.

It is not all about food, it is about life style and it’s hard to change a complete lifestyle, but that is what is needed.

I wish you the very best and my thoughts are with you.

[Odie]

[QUOTE=mikeinie;1071849]

it is about life style and it’s hard to change a complete lifestyle, but that is what is needed.

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in which way?

[SuzyB]

Problem is the psychatrist reckons it will take a good 3/4 years to get me in a somewhat 'normal' place, it is definately the state of my mind what has made me get so big :-5:-5

[SuzyB]

fuzzy butt;1071863 wrote: do you have acsess to a hydro pool? That would help your knee and as well as getting exercise it will relax your muscles .................If your anything like me you'll sleep very well after being in a hydro. You could get your doctor to get you a pass into a hospital pool or most public pools have them now. Oh and the heat helps with weight loss.


My local hospital does have one but it is so hard trying to get a space to get in it, I have hospital again in a couple of weeks and will ask the consultant if I can go in it, mind you i'll have to get a heavy duty razor out, my legs are looking like a forest at the mo :o

[mikeinie]

Odie;1071859 wrote: [QUOTE=mikeinie;1071849]

it is about life style and it’s hard to change a complete lifestyle, but that is what is needed.

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in which way?


Healthy eating, regular exercise, metal discipline, it is had to do all of these things at once. That is why diet fads make so much money companies, on it’s own diets don’t work.

Exercise is great, but not enough if one does not eat healthy. Without mental discipline, it is next to impossible to get up in the morning that extra hour early and motivate yourself to get out for a walk or run. This why people join health clubs and stop going after a few weeks.

It isn’t easy, a complete life style change means turning off the TV or computer and getting outside despite the weather.

I know I have not been able to achieve this.

[kazalala]

mikeinie;1071899 wrote: [QUOTE=Odie;1071859]

Healthy eating, regular exercise, metal discipline, it is had to do all of these things at once. That is why diet fads make so much money companies, on it’s own diets don’t work.

Exercise is great, but not enough if one does not eat healthy. Without mental discipline, it is next to impossible to get up in the morning that extra hour early and motivate yourself to get out for a walk or run. This why people join health clubs and stop going after a few weeks.

It isn’t easy, a complete life style change means turning off the TV or computer and getting outside despite the weather.

I know I have not been able to achieve this.


thats what getting a dog did for me ,,, got me out of the house and walking,,, also i have found i enjoy it,,, but i wouldnt go walking by myself

[Odie]

mikeinie;1071899 wrote: [QUOTE=Odie;1071859]

Healthy eating, regular exercise, metal discipline, it is had to do all of these things at once. That is why diet fads make so much money companies, on it’s own diets don’t work.

Exercise is great, but not enough if one does not eat healthy. Without mental discipline, it is next to impossible to get up in the morning that extra hour early and motivate yourself to get out for a walk or run. This why people join health clubs and stop going after a few weeks.

It isn’t easy, a complete life style change means turning off the TV or computer and getting outside despite the weather.

I know I have not been able to achieve this.


exactly what I said then, proper foods and exercise.



mental discipline I have, use my gazelle everyday, no pounding on joints and the pains in my hip and knees unlike threadmills etc at gyms.

[Imladris]

I mentioned bastric bypass to my doctor, he was quite negative about it, the patients of his that have had it have not found it the cure all that they hoped.



Please bear in mind that it has risks like all surgery. You have to change your diet too - you can't survive on the small portions that you can eat if you make them portions of chocolate and cake!!



I spoke to a woman I know a while ago who had lost 5 stone after she had one - she said she had to get it adjusted as it was too tight and she had problems with indigestion, then it was too loose and she put a stone back on - she said 'I don't mind at the moment as I'm enjoying eating again'.



My worry about it is that it is a lifelong thing, you will never be able to eat a 'normal' sized meal again.



Having said all that, I fully understand why you feel that it might help. Battling weight issues is no fun at all - not being skinny (!) myself I know the damage it does to your self-esteem and everything else!



But Suzy, remember that you are completely gorgeous as you are.:-4

[OpenMind]

Suzy, the most important thing is to feel good about yourself irrespective of anything else that's going on in your life. You're a good soul and your heart is always in the right place. Those two things are really important.

Every time you feel bad about yourself, go give Jimbo a big hug. Every time you feel good about yourself, go give Jimbo a big hug. Worry is the biggest killer. I have a heart condition and I had two attacks between 2004 and 2005. Mitocardial infarctions they are called apparently. I have lost the use of my left ventricle so my heart only has one beat and not the normal double beat. I have learnt that they are brought on mostly by emotional stress and so I have had to learn to deal with my emotions. It's not been an easy lesson, but I've had a hell of a teacher. I'm still alive and despite the conditions I have lived in for the last two years, I rarely get anything more than a quick sharp pain on the odd occasion.

If you're doing the right thing for yourself, that's what's important. Your body will soon let you know when you need relief. Trust in yourself, Suzy. Trust your feelings.

By the way, what's PTSD?

[el guapo]

if you are addicted to food a g bypass wont help it will burst n kill ya

[el guapo]

jimbo;1072090 wrote: i always thought a gastric bypass was not lighting a fart :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl





















get it gas trick bypass :-3:-3


god ya just full of hot air

[SuzyB]

Thanks everyone except Jimbo :-5 for your opinions, thanks OM for saying that i'm a good soul, that has really cheared me up :-4

PTSD Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, you know me I dont do things by halfs I have this in the severe form:rolleyes:

I do know 'what' I should do, but it's not that hard with an addiction, Jess you do have a point with overeating with it, I'll go read up on that.

Immy thank you for your post but I would never of thought you need one, you looked voluptulous and curvy to me when we met :-4

[el guapo]

SuzyB;1072101 wrote: Thanks everyone except Jimbo :-5 for your opinions, thanks OP for saying that i'm a good soul, that has really cheared me up :-4

PTSD Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, you know me I dont do things by halfs I have this in the severe form:rolleyes:

I do know 'what' I should do, but it's not that hard with an addiction, Jess you do have a point with overeating with it, I'll go read up on that.

Immy thank you for your post but I would never of thought you need one, you looked voluptulous and curvy to me when we met :-4


ya welcome hun

[SuzyB]

jimbo;1072107 wrote: i said you had to not get drunk :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


You're an ass:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[OpenMind]

SuzyB;1072101 wrote: Thanks everyone except Jimbo :-5 for your opinions, thanks OM for saying that i'm a good soul, that has really cheared me up :-4



PTSD Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, you know me I dont do things by halfs I have this in the severe form:rolleyes:



I do know 'what' I should do, but it's not that hard with an addiction, Jess you do have a point with overeating with it, I'll go read up on that.



Immy thank you for your post but I would never of thought you need one, you looked voluptulous and curvy to me



when we met :-4


Suzy, may I ask why you have PTSD?

[Lon]

SuzyB;1071802 wrote: As many of you know I have been battling with my weight for years now, I gained 4 stones after my hospital blunder, according to the pyschatrists many people with severe PTSD either become alcholoics, drug addicts or food addicts, I have become the later :-5:-5

Well here I am now at the heaviest I have ever been and I'm feeling pretty down on myself, but I have been offered what I'd consider a lifeline, my Doctor applied for funding for me to have a gastric bypass, the funding has been approved and I have passed the pyschatrists evaluation and just waiting to see dietician. Now this is all well and good but I am really wondering if this is the only option for me.

I have many allergies and have problems with pain relief and anthestic, I started a diet when I went into hospital and have lost half a stone but I think that was more down to feeling so rough I wouldn't eat I really dont feel that I have the strength and longevity to see through an 8 stone weight loss.

So what seemed like an answer to my prayers has now become another thing to worry and obsess about :-5

SO guys I would love to know your views


Considering that your weight gain is due to PTSD and a craving for food, as opposed to a physiological problem, I would under no circumstances consider a Gastric Bypass and I am surprised that a doc would even consider doing the surgery with all the potential post op problems.

I would seek the help of first of a psychologist specializing in behavior modification (perhaps through hypnosis). Secondly, a psychiatrist specializing in same.

What ever you decide-----------good luck.

[SuzyB]

OpenMind;1072110 wrote: Suzy, may I ask why you have PTSD?


I went into hospital for an operation, whilst in recovery they realised they had given me drugs to which I am allergic to, I died on the table and thank God after 3 shots into my heart they brought me back, back on the ward I was complaining i was still in pain, only 5 days later after running tests did they realise that something was very wrong, basically the surgeon removed the right part but on the wrong side of my body, they then all tried covering for each other, I then had septicimia, they then gave me another drug againist the advice of a top London surgeon, I then had to have an emergency surgery as they realised that the orginal problem had burst and I had internal bleeding (2 pints), they performed emergency surgery but I'd had a cup of tea so they had to close my airway while putting me under to stop any reflux which you can die from(my nightmares and panic attacks always involve the pressure on my throat and them all holding me down and putting a mask over my face), then after all that they forgot that they left drainage tubes in me, we only found that out after they burst through the closed wound, that was another surgery to remove them as they'd attached to tissue. Then the final whammy they forgot to sew my muscle back in place so for a year I had my bowls hanging out into the stomach cavity, the surgeon that sorted that thought I was going to lose some of my bowl but thankfully it was left, I now have a tummy with titanium mesh.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention the orange sized lump of infection and surrounding tissue that had to be removed:rolleyes:

So after 3 months in hospital (excluding time for hernia op), dying twice, being left infertile I became a total fruitcake.

By the way the surgeon that operated on me wasn't qualified, he was sacked 2 weeks after my first op:D

Apparantly I do have it so severly because I was so in control before, they also said that you totally trust Drs so to be nearly bumped off by the people you trust is a hard thing to get over.

They reckon I have years of therapy ahead of me, major problem is I dont trust the Drs I have to talk to, so to date I haven't really moved on, just got worse:D

[SuzyB]

Lon;1072120 wrote: Considering that your weight gain is due to PTSD and a craving for food, as opposed to a physiological problem, I would under no circumstances consider a Gastric Bypass and I am surprised that a doc would even consider doing the surgery with all the potential post op problems.

I would seek the help of first of a psychologist specializing in behavior modification (perhaps through hypnosis). Secondly, a psychiatrist specializing in same.

What ever you decide-----------good luck.


Cheers Lon, nice to see you here hope you and your family are well :-6

They have said that there is no way in hypnotising me, aparantly my mind wont allow it to happen (to wound up all the time), they have tried CBT with me but it was a total no go, another London Pyschatrist has said that it would never work at the moment as I have too much anger.

[shelbell]

Damn Suzy, no wonder why you have PTSD. I know the weight issue and how it affects your self esteem. After years of steroid injections into my back, I'm also at the heaviest I've ever been....it's so self defeating, and the heavier we get just makes us less motivated...it's so easy to feel like totally giving up.One thing I tried years ago and it really worked, is chew your food more...count to like 30 chews per bite. Then stop eating the second you start feeling full. Keep the junk food out of the house, but if you have a craving for something, take a couple small bites of it to satisfy the craving...if you don't, you'll end up eating a whole cake, pie or bag of candy. It's ok to look for low fat, low carb foods, but check the sugar info also. Low fat does not mean low calories or low sugar....and all that processed sugar is terrible for you. You've gotten some great advice here in this thread, the hard part is getting up the motivation to try different things. Good luck hun! :-4

[SuzyB]

shelbell;1072252 wrote: Damn Suzy, no wonder why you have PTSD. I know the weight issue and how it affects your self esteem. After years of steroid injections into my back, I'm also at the heaviest I've ever been....it's so self defeating, and the heavier we get just makes us less motivated...it's so easy to feel like totally giving up.One thing I tried years ago and it really worked, is chew your food more...count to like 30 chews per bite. Then stop eating the second you start feeling full. Keep the junk food out of the house, but if you have a craving for something, take a couple small bites of it to satisfy the craving...if you don't, you'll end up eating a whole cake, pie or bag of candy. It's ok to look for low fat, low carb foods, but check the sugar info also. Low fat does not mean low calories or low sugar....and all that processed sugar is terrible for you. You've gotten some great advice here in this thread, the hard part is getting up the motivation to try different things. Good luck hun! :-4


That just doesn't happen :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Thanks for your advice, just wish I could get my ar5e into gear.:-5

Did you find the steriod injections help? I have tried a few under local anthestic and they dont work for me

[abbey]

((((((((suzy))))))))) :-4

[SuzyB]

abbey;1072275 wrote: ((((((((suzy))))))))) :-4


I love you Abbs, I have been thinking of you and your Mum, hope Mum is ok :-4:-4

[kayleneaussie]

oh Suzy love and hugs to you....the weight is a health issue but think very carefully about the gastric bypass make it a last last resort as it may not work if you have a problem eating all the time.....I have put a bit of beef on this year and get down about it so know I just have a childs plate of food....ummmmmm I can lend you my baby too if ya like as then you wont have time to eat:yh_rotfl seriously though Suzie I really feel for you and I hope you find the right solution:-4:-4:-4

[SuzyB]

kayleneaussie;1072295 wrote: oh Suzy love and hugs to you....the weight is a health issue but think very carefully about the gastric bypass make it a last last resort as it may not work if you have a problem eating all the time.....I have put a bit of beef on this year and get down about it so know I just have a childs plate of food....ummmmmm I can lend you my baby too if ya like as then you wont have time to eat:yh_rotfl seriously though Suzie I really feel for you and I hope you find the right solution:-4:-4:-4


Thanks Kay, how is the new one settling in? :-4

[chonsigirl]

Ah Suzy, lots of good thoughts for you as you decide what to do. :-4

[SuzyB]

chonsigirl;1072317 wrote: Ah Suzy, lots of good thoughts for you as you decide what to do. :-4


Thanks Chonsi :-4

[kayleneaussie]

SuzyB;1072301 wrote: Thanks Kay, how is the new one settling in? :-4


you talking about Meline....she is 4 months now..has been sleeping all night but last night was a very naughty girl thats why I asked if you want me to send her over to you;)

[SuzyB]

kayleneaussie;1072345 wrote: you talking about Meline....she is 4 months now..has been sleeping all night but last night was a very naughty girl thats why I asked if you want me to send her over to you;)


I'd gladly have her:-4:-4 I thought you collected a 3 year old the other day???

[CARLA]

SuzyB I know many people who have had this surgery with great success. I also battle with weight and the older I get the harder it is to keep it off.

You can look at it from a physical stand point as well the less you weight the easier it is to move and your knees and back will feel better as well.

It is a decision you have to make and no one else can make it for you. If its time do it. If you have reservations don't. It will change your life dramatically that is a sure thing.

[shelbell]

SuzyB;1072270 wrote: That just doesn't happen :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Thanks for your advice, just wish I could get my ar5e into gear.:-5

Did you find the steriod injections help? I have tried a few under local anthestic and they dont work for me


Yeah, it's really hard to get moving when you constantly hurt. It's a catch 22, you can't exercise because of the pain, and because of the pain you can't exercise. It's like going around in circles.The pain would decrease from exercising, but exercising causes too much pain. It makes you feel like pulling your hair out!!!

I've been to 4 docs and have gotten about 15 injections total. No help, but they each "have" to try it first. Local anhestetic's don't work on me either, so I get the shots which just hurt a lot and don't help. I'm getting a new procedure done on Monday. They are going to place electrodes along each side of my spine, it's suppose to block the pain that normally would go up your spinal cord and into your brain receptors. But it can be used for backs, knee's, and so many other areas. I'll let ya know if it seems to help at all then you can check with your pain doctor. It would definitely make getting around a lot easier.

[SuzyB]

shelbell;1072395 wrote: Yeah, it's really hard to get moving when you constantly hurt. It's a catch 22, you can't exercise because of the pain, and because of the pain you can't exercise. It's like going around in circles.The pain would decrease from exercising, but exercising causes too much pain. It makes you feel like pulling your hair out!!!

I've been to 4 docs and have gotten about 15 injections total. No help, but they each "have" to try it first. Local anhestetic's don't work on me either, so I get the shots which just hurt a lot and don't help. I'm getting a new procedure done on Monday. They are going to place electrodes along each side of my spine, it's suppose to block the pain that normally would go up your spinal cord and into your brain receptors. But it can be used for backs, knee's, and so many other areas. I'll let ya know if it seems to help at all then you can check with your pain doctor. It would definitely make getting around a lot easier.


They wouldn't let me have that, I have too much scar tissue, they said the only reason they would open me up again is if I lose control of my bodily functions, they would then remove the offending disc, then because I will be minus more than 1 they would put plates and a rod in.

The best thing is the top neurosurgeon in London would be the one to work on me.

Just thought were you talking about the implants or the pads that they use?

[OpenMind]

SuzyB;1072132 wrote: I went into hospital for an operation, whilst in recovery they realised they had given me drugs to which I am allergic to, I died on the table and thank God after 3 shots into my heart they brought me back, back on the ward I was complaining i was still in pain, only 5 days later after running tests did they realise that something was very wrong, basically the surgeon removed the right part but on the wrong side of my body, they then all tried covering for each other, I then had septicimia, they then gave me another drug againist the advice of a top London surgeon, I then had to have an emergency surgery as they realised that the orginal problem had burst and I had internal bleeding (2 pints), they performed emergency surgery but I'd had a cup of tea so they had to close my airway while putting me under to stop any reflux which you can die from(my nightmares and panic attacks always involve the pressure on my throat and them all holding me down and putting a mask over my face), then after all that they forgot that they left drainage tubes in me, we only found that out after they burst through the closed wound, that was another surgery to remove them as they'd attached to tissue. Then the final whammy they forgot to sew my muscle back in place so for a year I had my bowls hanging out into the stomach cavity, the surgeon that sorted that thought I was going to lose some of my bowl but thankfully it was left, I now have a tummy with titanium mesh.



Oh yeah I forgot to mention the orange sized lump of infection and surrounding tissue that had to be removed:rolleyes:



So after 3 months in hospital (excluding time for hernia op), dying twice, being left infertile I became a total fruitcake.



By the way the surgeon that operated on me wasn't qualified, he was sacked 2 weeks after my first op:D



Apparantly I do have it so severly because I was so in control before, they also said that you totally trust Drs so to be nearly bumped off by the people you trust is a hard thing to get over.



They reckon I have years of therapy ahead of me, major problem is I dont trust the Drs I have to talk to, so to date I haven't really moved on, just got worse:D


OMG, Suzy. A real life nightmare. Thank God you survived all that. FG wouldn't be the same without you.

I can see that therapy and counselling may not help you by themselves. You need something spiritually uplifting as well, I think, to help you over the fears.

[SuzyB]

OpenMind;1072405 wrote: OMG, Suzy. A real life nightmare. Thank God you survived all that. FG wouldn't be the same without you.

I can see that therapy and counselling may not help you by themselves. You need something spiritually uplifting as well, I think, to help you over the fears.


Thank you, I'm sure FG wouldn't notice too much, I'm hardly here nowadays:(

Got any ideas on anything spiritually uplifting?

[shelbell]

SuzyB;1072400 wrote: They wouldn't let me have that, I have too much scar tissue, they said the only reason they would open me up again is if I lose control of my bodily functions, they would then remove the offending disc, then because I will be minus more than 1 they would put plates and a rod in.

The best thing is the top neurosurgeon in London would be the one to work on me.

Just thought were you talking about the implants or the pads that they use?


This isn't like having actual surgery where they cut you open. These are fine like wires that feed into the spine then it all works by remote control. I'm having it done at my doctors office.

I know how having all those implants can be. I've gotta cage in my neck with 8 screws, a cage in my lower back with 4 screws, and two screws in my knee. I hafta carry a card with me in case I set off metal detectors!!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

The top neurosurgeon huh? You must know somebody!!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

[SuzyB]

shelbell;1072419 wrote: This isn't like having actual surgery where they cut you open. These are fine like wires that feed into the spine then it all works by remote control. I'm having it done at my doctors office.

I know how having all those implants can be. I've gotta cage in my neck with 8 screws, a cage in my lower back with 4 screws, and two screws in my knee. I hafta carry a card with me in case I set off metal detectors!!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

The top neurosurgeon huh? You must know somebody!!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


Its because all the others are too scared to touch me, when I saw this guy in April/May time he said that if I was older he'd operate but he said due to the amount of scar tissue and the risk of losing use of lower body he wouldn't touch me, he said that if I was 20 years older he'd do it.

Poor you, was you in an accident?

[shelbell]

SuzyB;1072436 wrote: Its because all the others are too scared to touch me, when I saw this guy in April/May time he said that if I was older he'd operate but he said due to the amount of scar tissue and the risk of losing use of lower body he wouldn't touch me, he said that if I was 20 years older he'd do it.

Poor you, was you in an accident?


Having the risk of losing the the use of your lower body? You must be terrified by just the thought. At least this doc was honest and up front with you. Isn't the gastric bypass surgery pretty invasive? Sounds like you'd be very high risk for such a tramatic surgery.

Nope, no accident except for a water skiing accident when I was 16 that has screwed with my back ever since. I have degenerated disk disease and arthritis in my back and neck. My knee kept dislocating so they had to move my tibia over and put screws in it to hold it in place. Mine's just a case of getting older and falling apart. :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

[SuzyB]

shelbell;1072461 wrote: Having the risk of losing the the use of your lower body? You must be terrified by just the thought. At least this doc was honest and up front with you. Isn't the gastric bypass surgery pretty invasive? Sounds like you'd be very high risk for such a tramatic surgery.

It's done by keyhole now



Nope, no accident except for a water skiing accident when I was 16 that has screwed with my back ever since. I have degenerated disk disease and arthritis in my back and neck. My knee kept dislocating so they had to move my tibia over and put screws in it to hold it in place. Mine's just a case of getting older and falling apart. :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


I have arthritis too, you poor thing you really have been through the wars with things sending you a big hug and lots of :-4