New England flooding drowns homes and dreams

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:28 pm

Homes and dreams drown as waters rise in Northeast

By ERIC TUCKER and PAT EATON-ROBB, Associated Press Writers Eric Tucker And Pat Eaton-robb, Associated Press Writers – 8 mins ago

WEST WARWICK, R.I. – Flooding on a scale rarely seen in New England forced hundreds of people from their homes Wednesday, overwhelmed sewage systems to the point that families were asked to stop flushing toilets, and washed out bridges and highways from Maine to Connecticut.

Hardest hit by three days of record-breaking rain was Rhode Island, where the worst flooding in 200 years could persist for several more days and permanently close businesses already struggling in the weak economy.

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Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Bob Salsberg in Boston, Michelle R. Smith in Providence, Clarke Canfield in Portland, Kathy McCormack in Concord, N.H., and Megan K. Scott in New York.

Record Rains Put Rhode Island Underwater

Homes and dreams drown as waters rise in Northeast - Yahoo! News

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:30 pm

This is directly related to the coming Pole-Shift. Get out of these areas people. You don't have much time left.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:30 pm

New York City as well will soon be flooded.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:39 pm

For the official list of Danger Lands and Safety Lands around the World you can go here:

http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/warfa ... a-198.html

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:26 pm

Where is Obama on all of this? Has he even visited the area? Does he even care?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:34 pm

New England flooding drowns homes and dreams

2010-04-01 04:20:00

Flooding on a scale rarely seen in New England forced hundreds of people from their homes and businesses Wednesday, overwhelmed sewage systems and isolated communities as it washed out bridges and rippled across thoroughfares from Maine to Connecticut.

Three days of record-breaking rains tapered to a drizzle, then stopped before the waters in hard-hit Rhode Island finally crested. But authorities across New England warned that the flooding — far worse than an indundation two weeks ago in the same areas — could linger for days.

New England flooding drowns homes and dreams

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:43 pm

lol. Ok this is the strangest thing I have ever seen. Within the past 10 minutes, Yahoo news has changed their article about what is happening in the NE with the weather problems about 3 different times. First, they edited the words in it and took out the part about someone complaining that the Federal Government hasn't sent them any money yet and replaced it with their own statement about Obama sending money their way. As you can see in the first post above. The real version of the article is in the 6th post above. Then...as if that wasn't weird enough, they completely eliminated the article all-together. The first post in this thread was their second version of the article, and the 6th post of this thread was their original version. But now there is no article at all on their main page over at www.yahoo.com. Very very odd.

So.....

Anyways, it's bad over there. It's real bad. From what I gather, it's the worst flooding in that area in over 200 years. And now, there are residents saying that those states may never come back from this.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:58 pm

lol. Does yahoo news really believe that they can downplay (remove the worst part of the original article) the reality of what is going on in the NE section of the United States right now? lol. Wtf? Millions of people will tell millions of other people. I mean give me a break. What's the point of trying to water it down anyways? It's only going to get worse over there, and you're not helping anybody by not giving them the entire story.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:02 pm

TruthBringer;1300925 wrote: This is directly related to the coming Pole-Shift. Get out of these areas people. You don't have much time left.

Are you saying the Pole Shift itself has already begun to have physical effects? Would you not expect observatories to notice alignment problems between the Earth's orientation and, for example, the stars? Why do you think there have been no announcements to that effect, if there are observable variations?

Floodsmart.gov: Interactive Flood History Map is interesting, as regards floods. You can zoom in to the County level and the weather history goes back to 1993.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:14 pm

spot;1300993 wrote: Are you saying the Pole Shift itself has already begun to have physical effects? Would you not expect observatories to notice alignment problems between the Earth's orientation and, for example, the stars? Why do you think there have been no announcements to that effect, if there are observable variations?

Floodsmart.gov: Interactive Flood History Map is interesting, as regards floods. You can zoom in to the County level and the weather history goes back to 1993.

I believe that the Pole-Shift has indeed begun to a lesser degree. I can also tell you that because of what is happening in the NE part of the United States right now that the acceleration of the effects of the Pole-Shift have also begun to take place. I am 100% certain of that now. From this point on, until December 21st, 2012, the Earth is going to be experiencing rapid changes in many parts of the globe. Many of those places I have already listed in the Warfare and Military section of the board in my WW3-NWO-Pole-Shift-Age of Peace thread.

I do believe that the U.S. government knows all too well what is taking place, and that they are purposely hiding the information for whatever reason (probably to avoid mass panick). However as these changes begin to take place more and more around the Globe, I don't believe that the government will have any other choice but to release the information to the public and to have to explain to the people that movies such as The Day After Tomorrow, 2012, Knowing, etc., are actually closer to what is really going to happen than most people would probably imagine.

But, until then, we don't need the government to explain anything to us. We have the words of the World's prophets to guide our way. I intend to keep everyone here up to date on what we can expect as we approach December 21st, 2012. Keep in mind that the Poles will most likely begin to Shift more rapidly as we approach that date. But that it will be a gradual process and not an instantaneous process in the beginning. There is also a possibility that it will change from being a gradual process as it is now, to a rapid process which could indeed qualify as being instantaneous. But at the moment that is not the case.

Also keep in mind that it doesn't take much movement at all with the Poles of the Earth to alter the Earth's weather patterns and climate. Even the slightest movements can have a major impact, as you are seeing with what is going on right now. But as the process begins to accelerate, hold onto your seats, because this is going to be quite a ride.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:22 pm

So... all the world's astronomers, for example, are conspiring to keep from the general public the fact that the planet is shifting against its predicted orbit?

If the planet shifts, the GPS satellites at least stay on their original courses due to intertia. Would that not move the reported positions of everyone's Satnav to the same extent as the Pole Shift? Or are the Satnav programmers in on the deception too? Or has the Pole Shift not reached ten yards anywhere yet even though it's changing the weather over Rhode Island?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:29 pm

spot;1300998 wrote: So... all the world's astronomers, for example, are conspiring to keep from the general public the fact that the planet is shifting against its predicted orbit?

If the planet shifts, the GPS satellites at least stay on their original courses due to intertia. Would that not move the reported positions of everyone's Satnav to the same extent as the Pole Shift? Or are the Satnav programmers in on the deception too? Or has the Pole Shift not reached ten yards anywhere yet even though it's changing the weather over Rhode Island?

The World's astromoners are mainly under the thumb of the governments of the World spot. There aren't too many renegade astronomers out there that have access to the same kind of technology that governments provide for the ones that follow orders and keep their mouths shut. There is no secret with that.

I also believe that there hasn't been enough study in this area what with everything else going on in the World right now for enough people to realize what is happening. Although, make no mistake, the government has already been doing it's own studying. As have probably other governments of the World. But if the government was to release what is really going to happen all at once, I would have to agree with them that there would probably be mass panick all around the Globe. It's a highly sensitive subject, with extremely aggressive consequences, and I agree that the trickle out effect is the best method for releasing this information. Such is the reason why I have been using that exact same method for the past 4 years.

Anyone who believes in what I am typing will find better information in my thread in the Warfare and Military section, anyone who still disagrees with the Pole-Shift reality will find no comfort in that thread at the moment.

But the fact is that I am not here to make friends. I'm here to be a messenger of sorts. My main goal is to get the information out that I have at hand to the rest of the World, and to therefore have a positive effect in turn. My single goal, ultimate goal in my Life, is to do whatever I can to make this World a better place. And that should be the ultimate goal of every single Human being in my opinion.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:43 pm

And the continued accuracy of the worldwide GPS system we all make use of is due to what?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:56 pm

spot;1301001 wrote: And the continued accuracy of the worldwide GPS system we all make use of is due to what?

I don't pretend to know every single detail of how the Pole-Shift is operating. As I have said many times on this board I am not a scientist. But it is important to remember that the The cataclysmic Pole Shift hypothesis and/or gradual Pole-Shift hypothesis is not limited to that of the science of Astronomy. It is also covered in other branches of science, including Geology and Geophysiology, among others.

What I know for fact is that we are reaching the point of no return here. Sooner or later the governments of the World will have no other choice but to announce to the public what is really going to happen. As I mentioned before it's only going to get worse, and if the governments of nations hope to ensure the survival of their way of life, and to ensure the survival of the people of their nations (who are a part of being responsible for that way of life), then they will eventually have to announce what is happening. There is no way around it.

The explanation of Global Warming is not going to be enough to cut it. The people will need to know more about what is happening than just that. And I do believe that very soon one government or a cluster of governments is going to come out and release the information. We'll just have to wait and see when that happens. But what I don't see happening is them waiting until the last minute to release it, because that would mean sealing their own fate as well.

Eventually I expect to see mass migrations and mass evacuations of major cities around the World that will be heavily impacted by the effects of the Pole-Shift as we get closer and closer to December 21st, 2012.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:13 pm

The only understanding I have of the words "Pole Shift" is a movement of the axis of rotation of the planet. It means, for example, that the North Star would no longer be an approximate point around which the other stars appear to circle during the course of a night, some other star would end up in that position once the Shift was finished.

Now, it may be that you have a different meaning for the words, in which case I'd love to know what that is.

As for testing whether a Pole Shift is physically in progress, take your camera out on a clear night and take, say, a 4 hour exposure including the Pole Star. If you get arcs of light circling it then all's as it used to be last year, ten years ago, a century ago, at least as long as photography's existed. If the pattern changes some day, scream loudly. So far it's not changed and I speak as someone who takes such photos. It's not a test where "Governments" can nobble the result.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:16 pm

spot;1301008 wrote: The only understanding I have of the words "Pole Shift" is a movement of the axis of rotation of the planet. It means, for example, that the North Star would no longer be an approximate point around which the other stars appear to circle during the course of a night, some other star would end up in that position once the Shift was finished.

Now, it may be that you have a different meaning for the words, in which case I'd love to know what that is.

As for testing whether a Pole Shift is physically in progress, take your camera out on a clear night and take, say, a 4 hour exposure including the Pole Star. If you get arcs of light circling it then all's as it used to be last year, ten years ago, a century ago, at least as long as photography's existed. If the pattern changes some day, scream loudly. So far it's not changed and I speak as someone who takes such photos. It's not a test where "Governments" can nobble the result.

There are physical aspects to a Pole-Shift as well, which can cause movements about the crusts of the Earth. Many people associate the word Pole-Shift only with the magnetic field of the Earth. This is true in a sense, that it does deal with the magnetic field of the Earth, but they forget the research that provides evidence that massive landmasses have been altered in previous history due to the physical stresses on the Earth which can also be caused by both rapidly and gradually occurring Pole-Shifts.

There is a wealth of information about Pole-Shifts on the internet. I would recommend that anyone who wants to learn more about them go to any major search engine and type in the words "Pole-Shift" for a start.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:23 pm

If my bit of the crust moves relative to the planet's axis of rotation I'd get immediate changes in the time of sunrises and the height the Pole Star appears in my night sky. They've not happened either.

The name of the movement of the Earth's magnetic flux is Geomagnetic Variation or in extreme cases Geomagnetic Reversal. If you try to call that a Pole Shift then you're just bumbling two completely different notions into one basket, they have nothing to do with each other. Geomagnetic Reversals are quite common in the geological record. Crustal movement isn't affected by Geomagnetic Reversal. If it were there would be papers noting the correlation. Lots of them. Full of exclamation marks.

There is a wealth of gibbering buffoonery about Pole-Shift on the Internet. I would recommend that people apply logic before pronouncing.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:33 pm

spot;1301011 wrote:

Crustal movement isn't affected by Geomagnetic Reversal.

The two don't always go hand in hand, but it is wrong to say that there aren't physical aspects to a Geomagnetic Reversal. We are seeing them as we speak. Some researchers believe a Pole-Shift is underway today because the magnetic field has decreased in intensity as much as 10% - 15% over the last 150 years, with the rate of decay increasing more significantly in recent years.

Those researchers are right on the money. It has been the case many times in the past where a theory soon becomes reality once enough information has been collected to prove that it's correct.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:38 pm

What's fascinating about your accumulated posts here over the years is your evident desire to See These Events Happen. Which is why I hope you stick around into 2013 so we can discuss the nature of Millennialism, your perspective will be invaluable.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:41 pm

spot;1301015 wrote: What's fascinating about your accumulated posts here over the years is your evident desire to See These Events Happen. Which is why I hope you stick around into 2013 so we can discuss the nature of Millennialism, your perspective will be invaluable.

They are already happening Spot. I understand that we both seem to be interested in learning about the World around us, we are on the same page there. But I would also be interested to see what your theory is as to why the natural disasters of the Earth have been increasing in intensity on every level and in every area on every scale. Why certain portions of the United States and other parts of the World are being inundated by these disasters seemingly all at once, in such a rapid fashion, and why it seems that the activity of the Earth is indeed increasing ironically as we approach December 21st, 2012, just as many of the prophets of old had said it would.

Surely you don't limit the scope of all of these changes simply to the theory of gradual Global Warming/Climate Change. There is too much going on way too fast to be limited to that theory.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:01 pm

I put it down to your warped perception and your overwhelming need for it to be true. As I said, 2013 is a good time for the pair of us to review your posts with a fine tooth-comb but what we'll be exploring is your state of mind over the last five years, not the End Of Times.

Garner Ted Armstrong pushed the same stuff in the same way back in the 60s, he's worth reading up on. He knew what part of his audience's psyche to tap. With you, we can finally ask why it was the most important thing in your life to repeatedly try to tap it.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:32 pm

spot;1301018 wrote: I put it down to your warped perception and your overwhelming need for it to be true. As I said, 2013 is a good time for the pair of us to review your posts with a fine tooth-comb but what we'll be exploring is your state of mind over the last five years, not the End Of Times.

Garner Ted Armstrong pushed the same stuff in the same way back in the 60s, he's worth reading up on. He knew what part of his audience's psyche to tap. With you, we can finally ask why it was the most important thing in your life to repeatedly try to tap it.

I'll take that as one of two things. Either you have no theory about what's causing all of these natural disasters to take place in a more rapid fashion, or....that you are too embarrassed to post about it. Either way you are getting nasty again, so for tonight, I'll bid you a good one.

Post by **spot** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:10 pm

TruthBringer;1301023 wrote: I'll take that as one of two things. Either you have no theory about what's causing all of these natural disasters to take place in a more rapid fashion, or....that you are too embarrassed to post about it.

There is no accelerating rate of natural disasters, that's just in your head.

There is an accelerating impact of humanity's increase on the planet but that's been demonstrably happening for millennia. I'd be very surprised if the megafauna extinctions of the last 40,000 years aren't a direct consequence of the spread of humans across the planet, for example. I'm annoyed, I want those sabre-tooth tigers and mammoths far more than I want an extra billion humans. In a hundred years people might say the same of whales, seals and rhinoceroses. On the other hand we've not had any effect on the rate of volcanoes or earthquakes.

As to "global warming" I think it's mis-named. It's global pollution of the atmosphere. it might lead to warming or cooling in the short term, locally or globally. The danger lies in passing previously stable tipping points like methane release in the Tundra or the destruction of the Arctic ice cap, for example. Pass one tipping point and there's no telling where the climate might end up. Pollution's quite capable of getting us into that position.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:35 pm

spot;1301025 wrote: There is no accelerating rate of natural disasters, that's just in your head.

There is an accelerating impact of humanity's increase on the planet but that's been demonstrably happening for millennia. I'd be very surprised if the megafauna extinctions of the last 40,000 years aren't a direct consequence of the spread of humans across the planet, for example. I'm annoyed, I want those sabre-tooth tigers and mammoths far more than I want an extra billion humans. In a hundred years people might say the same of whales, seals and rhinoceroses. On the other hand we've not had any effect on the rate of volcanoes or earthquakes.

As to "global warming" I think it's mis-named. It's global pollution of the atmosphere. it might lead to warming or cooling in the short term, locally or globally. The danger lies in passing previously stable tipping points like methane release in the Tundra or the destruction of the Arctic ice cap, for example. Pass one tipping point and there's no telling where the climate might end up. Pollution's quite capable of getting us into that position.

Well I'll give you the credit you deserve for posting your idea of why these things are happening at an increased rate. I don't think anyone can deny that the Earth is acting very strange lately, and that it does appear to be gearing up for something big. Or maybe they can, but it wouldn't correlate with the facts.

I've heard the "Human beings are the problem" argument time and time again. The fact is that Human beings are the stewards of the Earth. We have done many things which have hurt our own purpose on the planet, but we are not any less important than those rhinos that you mentioned above.

All living creatures are living in a perpetual balance with nature that must be kept in it's proper place in order for evolution to occur in it's natural order. If anything is done to upset that balance, then the Earth will let us know. And there is no doubt that this Pole-Shift is a wake up call for the World, to show us all what can happen when nature takes the reins of control, while Human beings will have to take a back seat and learn from our mistakes.

But Life is a continual process of learning. Killing one creature to save another defeats the purpose of the unity of Life. It will not solve the problems ahead of us, it will only create brand new ones. Instead we should be working on new ways to protect that Unity, and to keep the cycle moving instead of trying to throw a monkey wrench into the gears.

Post by **spot** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:59 am

TruthBringer;1301026 wrote: I don't think anyone can deny that the Earth is acting very strange lately, and that it does appear to be gearing up for something big. Or maybe they can, but it wouldn't correlate with the facts.

if you can demonstrate an accelerating rate of volcanic activity or earthquakes with any sort of observable measurements, as opposed to your own anecdotal notes, that would change the picture entirely. But I don't think you can, I don't think it's happening. I have shown figures in other threads indicating that the Earth's crust is now as it's been over the last million years, I suppose I could dredge up similar ones again if you like. There's no more earthquakes than there were over that period, there's no more volcanic explosions, it's all random background shaking with no upward trend. You have to go back tens of millions of years to find less stable times. There's nothing in the current record to suggest they're returning.

The weather is a different matter but that's a natural consequence of the pollution.

The loss of the megafauna is just too coincidental to be anything other than man-made. All of it predates the Industrial Revolution, a lot of it predates agriculture. We're not at the start of a man-made mass extinction event, we're tens of thousands of years into one.

You're still saying that the planet "does appear to be gearing up for something big. Or maybe they can, but it wouldn't correlate with the facts" but you say it without producing anything of statistical relevance, merely the occasional quake with an implied threat of "you ain't seen nothing yet". Again I'll mention Garner Ted Armstrong. Seriously, look the chap up. His message was identical in all respects to your own. he died in his bed of advanced old age still waiting for The End and, just like you I suggest, he would have so liked to have been there when it happened. He was the most definitive snake-oil merchant I've ever encountered and he was entirely impervious to logic, all anyone could do was outlive the man and point to the eventual lack of calamity.

Here, let me quote a bit from his paper so you can feel the style, it ought to be familiar:Since the last issue many things have occurred, every one in accordance with prophecy! ... War events thunder on, rapidly approaching the prophesied climax!... Hitler now emerges as the "BEAST" of Revelation! Bible prophecy shows the Roman Axis forces will take Egypt, Suez, Palestine, — even Gibraltar. Britain will go down. And, unless we turn as a nation to God our beloved United States will have to go under ... we lack TOTAL Defense, without which we shall never win. We are at the END of the present order. ARMAGEDDON is now just a short way off.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:21 pm

spot;1301037 wrote: if you can demonstrate an accelerating rate of volcanic activity or earthquakes with any sort of observable measurements, as opposed to your own anecdotal notes, that would change the picture entirely. But I don't think you can, I don't think it's happening. I have shown figures in other threads indicating that the Earth's crust is now as it's been over the last million years, I suppose I could dredge up similar ones again if you like. There's no more earthquakes than there were over that period, there's no more volcanic explosions, it's all random background shaking with no upward trend. You have to go back tens of millions of years to find less stable times. There's nothing in the current record to suggest they're returning.

The weather is a different matter but that's a natural consequence of the pollution.

The loss of the megafauna is just too coincidental to be anything other than man-made. All of it predates the Industrial Revolution, a lot of it predates agriculture. We're not at the start of a man-made mass extinction event, we're tens of thousands of years into one.

You're still saying that the planet "does appear to be gearing up for something big. Or maybe they can, but it wouldn't correlate with the facts" but you say it without producing anything of statistical relevance, merely the occasional quake with an implied threat of "you ain't seen nothing yet". Again I'll mention Garner Ted Armstrong. Seriously, look the chap up. His message was identical in all respects to your own. he died in his bed of advanced old age still waiting for The End and, just like you I suggest, he would have so liked to have been there when it happened. He was the most definitive snake-oil merchant I've ever encountered and he was entirely impervious to logic, all anyone could do was outlive the man and point to the eventual lack of calamity.

Here, let me quote a bit from his paper so you can feel the style, it ought to be familiar:Since the last issue many things have occurred, every one in accordance with prophecy! ... War events thunder on, rapidly approaching the prophesied climax!... Hitler now emerges as the "BEAST" of Revelation! Bible prophecy shows the Roman Axis forces will take Egypt, Suez, Palestine, — even Gibraltar. Britain will go down. And, unless we turn as a nation to God our beloved United States will have to go under ... we lack TOTAL Defense, without which we shall never win. We are at the END of the present order. ARMAGEDDON is now just a short way off.

If you live in the NE part of the United States at the moment, if you live in California (when the big quake hits very soon), if you live in New York and other states, if you live in Haiti, or in South America, if you live in New Orleans or other parts of the World, you would not be thinking to yourself...."Hey, this is totally normal."

Nah, sorry Spot. Gonna have to do better than that for the people who are actually experiencing this stuff.

And like I said, that's a spit in the jar compared to what's coming.

Post by **spot** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:24 pm

TruthBringer;1301323 wrote: And like I said, that's a spit in the jar compared to what's coming.And that, of course, is exactly the message Garner Ted Armstong was peddling. It's a message with thousands of years of history to it and it's invariably erroneous. What makes you so special that finally it happens to be accurate? You're better than Garner Ted?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:46 pm

spot;1301330 wrote: And that, of course, is exactly the message Garner Ted Armstong was peddling. It's a message with thousands of years of history to it and it's invariably erroneous. What makes you so special that finally it happens to be accurate? You're better than Garner Ted?

Quit bringing up this Ted Garner guy bro.

As smart as you are, you're intellect seems to cause you to easily overlook details. As the intellect always does.

I have never claimed to be a prophet, though I do give predictions.

If you're going to compare all of the various prophets/psychics that I use for my information including the many Biblical prophets I use to this guy Ted Garner (Who I have never heard of) than you must be out of your mind.