That's the nickname for Dr. Jack Kavorkian---a strong advocate of Assisted Suicide.
I have always felt that this guy is unfairly portrayed, unfortunately, his sometimes caustic personality doesn't help. HBO aired a show last month called "You Don't Know Jack" which is available as a download. It's a good show. If you saw it I would like to hear any comments that you care to make about the show, Kevorkian, or assisted suicide.
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I'm in favour of assisted suicide in cases where death is unavoidable, and the natural space until that death would be full of pain or increasing loss of dignity.
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Hm. Interesting topic. Jack Kevorkian was a pathologist. He was never a Doctor for the living. He spent his time in morgues and discovering what caused death. I dont see him as a physician that has the whats best for people, as a priority. Wonder if he did the post mortems on the folks he helped to die? In the back of a van. Where is the dignity in that?
~Quoth the Raven, Nevermore!~
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Bored_Wombat;1313067 wrote: I'm in favour of assisted suicide in cases where death is unavoidable, and the natural space until that death would be full of pain or increasing loss of dignity.
unfortunately death is unavoidable for us all.
unfortunately death is unavoidable for us all.
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Raven;1313068 wrote: Hm. Interesting topic. Jack Kevorkian was a pathologist. He was never a Doctor for the living. He spent his time in morgues and discovering what caused death. I dont see him as a physician that has the whats best for people, as a priority. Wonder if he did the post mortems on the folks he helped to die? In the back of a van. Where is the dignity in that?
Yes he was a pathologist and as such kept the other docs, particularly surgeons, honest. There is more to pathology than autopsies. Determining if a particular cancer is benign or aggressive certainly serves the living. Also, the results of an autopsy is the "Final Diagnosis"
Yes he was a pathologist and as such kept the other docs, particularly surgeons, honest. There is more to pathology than autopsies. Determining if a particular cancer is benign or aggressive certainly serves the living. Also, the results of an autopsy is the "Final Diagnosis"
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Raven;1313068 wrote: Hm. Interesting topic. Jack Kevorkian was a pathologist. He was never a Doctor for the living. He spent his time in morgues and discovering what caused death. I dont see him as a physician that has the whats best for people, as a priority. Wonder if he did the post mortems on the folks he helped to die? In the back of a van. Where is the dignity in that?
Any evidence that he did? If so then the answer is "very little", if not then an emotive trick too far.
Any evidence that he did? If so then the answer is "very little", if not then an emotive trick too far.
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Bryn Mawr;1313172 wrote: Any evidence that he did? If so then the answer is "very little", if not then an emotive trick too far.
Kevorkian did not do autopsies on anyone that he assisted in dying. That was not his thing. He simply believed that the patient has the right to decide for themselves if they wish to have their life terminated. In the 150 plus cases that he assisted, all were in severe pain and suffering and were terminal. They themselves opened the valve that would end it. His conviction for second degree murder came about when he himself actually did the injection. He wished to test his right as a physician to do this by bringing it before the U.S. Supreme Court. It has never happened and he was sentenced to 10 to 20 years. He served 8 1/2 years and was released at age 79. We seem to treat animals that are suffering more humanely than we do our fellow man.
Kevorkian did not do autopsies on anyone that he assisted in dying. That was not his thing. He simply believed that the patient has the right to decide for themselves if they wish to have their life terminated. In the 150 plus cases that he assisted, all were in severe pain and suffering and were terminal. They themselves opened the valve that would end it. His conviction for second degree murder came about when he himself actually did the injection. He wished to test his right as a physician to do this by bringing it before the U.S. Supreme Court. It has never happened and he was sentenced to 10 to 20 years. He served 8 1/2 years and was released at age 79. We seem to treat animals that are suffering more humanely than we do our fellow man.
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Lon;1313174 wrote: Kevorkian did not do autopsies on anyone that he assisted in dying. That was not his thing. He simply believed that the patient has the right to decide for themselves if they wish to have their life terminated. In the 150 plus cases that he assisted, all were in severe pain and suffering and were terminal. They themselves opened the valve that would end it. His conviction for second degree murder came about when he himself actually did the injection. He wished to test his right as a physician to do this by bringing it before the U.S. Supreme Court. It has never happened and he was sentenced to 10 to 20 years. He served 8 1/2 years and was released at age 79. We seem to treat animals that are suffering more humanely than we do our fellow man.
I agree but what's also overlooked is the fact that hospitals, which are businesses people don't kid yourselves, have far too much money that goes to pay off anyone capable of bringing physician assisted death to fruition. Why? because the longer your loved ones lay up in hospital beds the more money they rake in that's why.
What proves it even further is that a significant majority of the world's population, including the U.S. is for the right of the patient to choose when he/she should be spared pain and agony both physically, mentally, and spiritually.
Elderly patients are also being shoved into nursing homes and what's not quite as horrific as the neglect of their kin is the fact these nursing homes shove countless amounts of pills down their throats. Elly Lilli lost $1.4 billion because they influenced physicians to use Zyprexa, which is an anti-psychotic used for schizophrenia, as a damn sedative!
Ridiculous doesn't even describe today's health care
For God's sake if "you" have people "you" know in nursing homes please double check there meds and make sure they're not taking garbage they don't need! Talk to other doctors, get second opinions. We as a collective society need to wake up
I agree but what's also overlooked is the fact that hospitals, which are businesses people don't kid yourselves, have far too much money that goes to pay off anyone capable of bringing physician assisted death to fruition. Why? because the longer your loved ones lay up in hospital beds the more money they rake in that's why.
What proves it even further is that a significant majority of the world's population, including the U.S. is for the right of the patient to choose when he/she should be spared pain and agony both physically, mentally, and spiritually.
Elderly patients are also being shoved into nursing homes and what's not quite as horrific as the neglect of their kin is the fact these nursing homes shove countless amounts of pills down their throats. Elly Lilli lost $1.4 billion because they influenced physicians to use Zyprexa, which is an anti-psychotic used for schizophrenia, as a damn sedative!
Ridiculous doesn't even describe today's health care
For God's sake if "you" have people "you" know in nursing homes please double check there meds and make sure they're not taking garbage they don't need! Talk to other doctors, get second opinions. We as a collective society need to wake up
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I became a supporter of euthanasia when my grandfather envied my parents dog when he heard they were putting her down.
In a world with a population problem you'd think we'd be a little more willing to listen. If not for that reason then perhaps we could move from common sense to compassion. Dead people aren't sad, the people left behind are. The people left behind are not the ones whose feelings are more important.
In a world with a population problem you'd think we'd be a little more willing to listen. If not for that reason then perhaps we could move from common sense to compassion. Dead people aren't sad, the people left behind are. The people left behind are not the ones whose feelings are more important.
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Lon;1313011 wrote: It's a good show. If you saw it I would like to hear any comments that you care to make about the show, Kevorkian, or assisted suicide.
I have not seen that, but the more I learn about "assisted suicide" the less and less I like the idea. It seems to be a very bad thing in general.
I have not seen that, but the more I learn about "assisted suicide" the less and less I like the idea. It seems to be a very bad thing in general.
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Bill Sikes;1313213 wrote: I have not seen that, but the more I learn about "assisted suicide" the less and less I like the idea. It seems to be a very bad thing in general.
OK-------Why?
OK-------Why?
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Bill Sikes;1313213 wrote: I have not seen that, but the more I learn about "assisted suicide" the less and less I like the idea. It seems to be a very bad thing in general.
Dont judge me.
Dont judge me.
I AM AWESOME MAN
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FRONTLINE: the suicide tourist: introduction | PBS