Is it just me, or is the "sport" / pastime of foxhunting truly repugnant
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Is it just me, or is the "sport" / pastime of foxhunting truly repugnant
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Is it just me, or is the "sport" / pastime of foxhunting truly repugnant
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No luv, i can assure you it truly is a repugnant "sport".
Hopefuly now its banned it'll be a thing of the past! x
Hopefuly now its banned it'll be a thing of the past! x
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I hope you`re right, Abbey, but I heard that they are STILL going out with all the packs of dogs and other paraphernalia (if that`s how you spell it!), and "if" the dogs do go and chase and rip a fox to pieces, they are going to escape prosecution by saying they were merely excercising the dogs, who just `happened` to see a fox..........what high principled people they must be?!
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I didn't know people still did this. We (they) do it with squirrels here in Missouri.
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It is still legal to "Flush" foxes as long as the dogs dont kill it. On the first day of the ban I think some 90 odd foxes were "Accidentally" killed.
I do haveone question, how should the fox population be controlled? they no longer have any predators, the amount of garbage we generate encourages them and in some towns and cities they are starting to become a nuisance. With no natural control (BTW I think foxes rip bunnies apart when they kill them) how can the be controlled.
I do haveone question, how should the fox population be controlled? they no longer have any predators, the amount of garbage we generate encourages them and in some towns and cities they are starting to become a nuisance. With no natural control (BTW I think foxes rip bunnies apart when they kill them) how can the be controlled.
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You're braver than me Bothwell!! I wanted to reply similarily yesterday but held back!
Foxes need to be controlled.
We have a beautiful Fox that comes past our house every evening at dusk, she often brings her cubs. Now we have noticed the arrival of three other foxes in this area and they are a very sorry sight, full of mange and skin and bones. The chances are that the 'well' fox and her cubs will end up with mange too.
I don't aggree with the way 'fox hunting' was carried out, shooting is a better and quicker way. For those who read that in disgust, pop down here, come to a local farm and see how many lambs, chickens, ducks, even cats the local fox population has ripped apart in one night, ok they need to eat to survive but it's not uncommon for them just to kill and leave.
Foxes need to be controlled.
We have a beautiful Fox that comes past our house every evening at dusk, she often brings her cubs. Now we have noticed the arrival of three other foxes in this area and they are a very sorry sight, full of mange and skin and bones. The chances are that the 'well' fox and her cubs will end up with mange too.
I don't aggree with the way 'fox hunting' was carried out, shooting is a better and quicker way. For those who read that in disgust, pop down here, come to a local farm and see how many lambs, chickens, ducks, even cats the local fox population has ripped apart in one night, ok they need to eat to survive but it's not uncommon for them just to kill and leave.
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Betty Boop wrote: You're braver than me Bothwell!! I wanted to reply similarily yesterday but held back!
Foxes need to be controlled.
We have a beautiful Fox that comes past our house every evening at dusk, she often brings her cubs. Now we have noticed the arrival of three other foxes in this area and they are a very sorry sight, full of mange and skin and bones. The chances are that the 'well' fox and her cubs will end up with mange too.
I don't aggree with the way 'fox hunting' was carried out, shooting is a better and quicker way. For those who read that in disgust, pop down here, come to a local farm and see how many lambs, chickens, ducks, even cats the local fox population has ripped apart in one night, ok they need to eat to survive but it's not uncommon for them just to kill and leave.
I agree with you 100%. Although I HATE, absolutely HATE the way they have made a sport out of killing foxes, if they need controlling, then they should be shot dead.
People who get a thrill out of giving blood thirsty dogs an animal to rip apart need a doctor because they must be sick in the head.
Foxes need to be controlled.
We have a beautiful Fox that comes past our house every evening at dusk, she often brings her cubs. Now we have noticed the arrival of three other foxes in this area and they are a very sorry sight, full of mange and skin and bones. The chances are that the 'well' fox and her cubs will end up with mange too.
I don't aggree with the way 'fox hunting' was carried out, shooting is a better and quicker way. For those who read that in disgust, pop down here, come to a local farm and see how many lambs, chickens, ducks, even cats the local fox population has ripped apart in one night, ok they need to eat to survive but it's not uncommon for them just to kill and leave.
I agree with you 100%. Although I HATE, absolutely HATE the way they have made a sport out of killing foxes, if they need controlling, then they should be shot dead.
People who get a thrill out of giving blood thirsty dogs an animal to rip apart need a doctor because they must be sick in the head.
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OK I can come out of the closet. I DO live in a rural county (gloucestershire) that has many hunts. In my younger days I used to do a bit of roughshooting. I don't now becasue I just don't think I could but i am not against shooting per se. I did however come across quite afew "Hunting" types at game fairs etc and they were in the main a pain in the arse and much despised by a large number of the shooting community.
I even don't think that in many cases a fox killed by hounds suffers for very long, certainly not longer than a fox wounded by a bullet and although the sight is no doubt distressing the fox is probably dead within seconds. What I actually object to is why does it take 50 idiots dressed in "Pink" (it's actually red) charging around the countryside to do it.
I have a friend who is a gamekeeper in rural Wales (yes I have a Welsh friend LC !!!). Where he lives is almost exclusively sheep territory and they do suffer large losses especially during the lambing season. He runs a pack of about 10 dogs. the farmer gives him a call, he takes to dogs up, they flush and corner the fox and he shoots it, nearly always from less than 30 yards. The result is quiet and efficient.
I dont like the gassing that they used to do because it is so indiscriminate. what the solution to the urban fox is I have no idea but maybe a few townies may change their mind when "Tiddles" gets eaten by one. The main problem is that it has been made into a political fight especially by the extremeists on both sides who see it as the last great class struggle.
I even don't think that in many cases a fox killed by hounds suffers for very long, certainly not longer than a fox wounded by a bullet and although the sight is no doubt distressing the fox is probably dead within seconds. What I actually object to is why does it take 50 idiots dressed in "Pink" (it's actually red) charging around the countryside to do it.
I have a friend who is a gamekeeper in rural Wales (yes I have a Welsh friend LC !!!). Where he lives is almost exclusively sheep territory and they do suffer large losses especially during the lambing season. He runs a pack of about 10 dogs. the farmer gives him a call, he takes to dogs up, they flush and corner the fox and he shoots it, nearly always from less than 30 yards. The result is quiet and efficient.
I dont like the gassing that they used to do because it is so indiscriminate. what the solution to the urban fox is I have no idea but maybe a few townies may change their mind when "Tiddles" gets eaten by one. The main problem is that it has been made into a political fight especially by the extremeists on both sides who see it as the last great class struggle.
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I have a friend who is a gamekeeper in rural Wales (yes I have a Welsh friend LC !!!). ..............you have betrayed me~~~you're friends with a taff???? oh the pain! :wah:
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Thanks for your reasoned replies, especially Both - but can I assure you I genuinely find it revolting (eg, when they cut the blood-stained tail off the fox and wipe it around the youngest member`s face) and am not bringing the subject up for any political purposes nor because I am an extremist!
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smithy87 wrote: I agree with you 100%. Although I HATE, absolutely HATE the way they have made a sport out of killing foxes, if they need controlling, then they should be shot dead.People who get a thrill out of giving blood thirsty dogs an animal to rip apart need a doctor because they must be sick in the head.
Whoa -what a non Euro thought. Persons wandering around the English countryside with GUNS to protect their community from unwanted predation. Seems so ah er American. :-2
Whoa -what a non Euro thought. Persons wandering around the English countryside with GUNS to protect their community from unwanted predation. Seems so ah er American. :-2
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Hmm...Don't kill the poor foxes. Oh, but wait...the population DOES need to be controlled...but not by dogs....ummm....shooting is no good either. Gassing seems repugnant, too. Well, guess what? If the fox is not preyed on by any animal, it's numbers will skyrocket. You will see foxes starved, hit by cars, and riddled with disease. I suppose there will be a certain amount of population control among the ones who starve to death over a period of weeks, and the ones hit by cars probably have little chance. But what would you rather see? The little critters dragging themselves by in a weakened state from lack of food and dying a slow painful death? Or would you rather smoosh them with your cars? I think it is the image of the dogs killing the fox that is what is so disturbing. Watch a few die of starvation and consider which is more humane.
I admittedly don't know much about fox hunting or the problems with the population over there, but I do know what happens when a species is allowed to run rampant without any form of control. Just look at the numbers of car/deer accidents here. Over 3,000 a DAY. And we have herd control. I'll be real interested to see what the folks who opppose hunting fox have to say in oh, 5 or 10 years when they can't drive down the road for fear of running one over.
I admittedly don't know much about fox hunting or the problems with the population over there, but I do know what happens when a species is allowed to run rampant without any form of control. Just look at the numbers of car/deer accidents here. Over 3,000 a DAY. And we have herd control. I'll be real interested to see what the folks who opppose hunting fox have to say in oh, 5 or 10 years when they can't drive down the road for fear of running one over.
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mmm, all this concern for the fact that otherwise foxes would be in over abundance fails to take count of FACTS like the FACT that there were NO foxes originally in places like Australia but they were exported to that country so these despicable `blood sport lovers` could continue their vile practises there! Why not just leave them in Britain in the first place if they are so worried about uncontrolled breeding?
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john8pies wrote: mmm, all this concern for the fact that otherwise foxes would be in over abundance fails to take count of FACTS like the FACT that there were NO foxes originally in places like Australia but they were exported to that country so these despicable `blood sport lovers` could continue their vile practises there! Why not just leave them in Britain in the first place if they are so worried about uncontrolled breeding?It makes no difference where they are. If the fox is allowed to reproduce, with zero control, they will overrun where ever they are. "Despicable blood sport lovers"? I suppose I am one in that group since I hunt deer?
So you want them left in Britain to take over there? You would rather watch them dying in your yard, starving over a period of days, sick and weak because there's not enough food, in-breeding, and disease-ridden?
So you want them left in Britain to take over there? You would rather watch them dying in your yard, starving over a period of days, sick and weak because there's not enough food, in-breeding, and disease-ridden?
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Urban foxes would'nt be urban if people did'nt insist on feeding them on a regular basis.
Farmers & gamekeepers will carry on culling the foxes to keep them under control.
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Farmers & gamekeepers will carry on culling the foxes to keep them under control.
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abbey wrote: Urban foxes would'nt be urban if people did'nt insist on feeding them on a regular basis.
Farmers & gamekeepers will carry on culling the foxes to keep them under control.
~~~~~~~~So the residents are exacerbating the problem by feeding the foxes? There's part of your problem right there.
And Abbey, are gamekeepers there like our animal control officers here, or are they like park rangers, or what? How do gamekeepers control the population? And of course, farmers are allowed to protect their livestock and property from foxes, right? I really don't know how it works, I'm curious.
Farmers & gamekeepers will carry on culling the foxes to keep them under control.
~~~~~~~~So the residents are exacerbating the problem by feeding the foxes? There's part of your problem right there.
And Abbey, are gamekeepers there like our animal control officers here, or are they like park rangers, or what? How do gamekeepers control the population? And of course, farmers are allowed to protect their livestock and property from foxes, right? I really don't know how it works, I'm curious.
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BabyRider wrote: So the residents are exacerbating the problem by feeding the foxes? There's part of your problem right there.Town people do tend to feel sorry for the "poor hungry foxes" of course foxes will always come into towns to scavenge.
And Abbey, are gamekeepers there like our animal control officers here, or are they like park rangers, or what?Like park rangers.
How do gamekeepers control the population? And of course, farmers are allowed to protect their livestock and property from foxes, right? I really don't know how it works, I'm curious.They control the situation by shooting them & yes farmers are allowed to protect their livestock and do so, by shooting them.
Before the ban on fox hunting by packs of hounds & riders, the hunts had permission from landowners to hunt on their land to keep the population down.
And Abbey, are gamekeepers there like our animal control officers here, or are they like park rangers, or what?Like park rangers.
How do gamekeepers control the population? And of course, farmers are allowed to protect their livestock and property from foxes, right? I really don't know how it works, I'm curious.They control the situation by shooting them & yes farmers are allowed to protect their livestock and do so, by shooting them.
Before the ban on fox hunting by packs of hounds & riders, the hunts had permission from landowners to hunt on their land to keep the population down.