Creationism?
Creationism?
40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism
Probably the same number that believe in LEPRECHAUNS
:wah:
Probably the same number that believe in LEPRECHAUNS
:wah:
Creationism?
They were most likely including "well, I guess so" as "yes" responses.
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Be the wave that I am and then
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Creationism?
Please enlighten us.
Just where did the Universe come from.
Just where did the Universe come from.
Creationism?
BaghdadBob;1347443 wrote: Please enlighten us.
Just where did the Universe come from.
Who cares?
How high is up?
Just where did the Universe come from.
Who cares?
How high is up?
Creationism?
BaghdadBob;1347443 wrote: Please enlighten us.
Just where did the Universe come from.No, no, you're right, BD-B, some superman in the sky said "kazam!", and saw it was good, so he kept it like that. You'd figure though, that if that was God!, he would have known it was good before doing the trick, no?
Just where did the Universe come from.No, no, you're right, BD-B, some superman in the sky said "kazam!", and saw it was good, so he kept it like that. You'd figure though, that if that was God!, he would have known it was good before doing the trick, no?
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
BaghdadBob;1347443 wrote: Please enlighten us.
Just where did the Universe come from.
IT didn't come from anywhere. It has always been right where it is.
Just where did the Universe come from.
IT didn't come from anywhere. It has always been right where it is.
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Creationism?
Lon;1347438 wrote: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism
Probably the same number that believe in LEPRECHAUNS
:wah:
Does this result in twin Leprechauns?
Probably the same number that believe in LEPRECHAUNS
:wah:
Does this result in twin Leprechauns?
Creationism?
Well, that's actually an improvement. In the past surveys I've seen it's been over 50%.
Looks like the scientifically-ignorant are being naturally selected out of the gene pool and/or learning a thing or two.
Looks like the scientifically-ignorant are being naturally selected out of the gene pool and/or learning a thing or two.

Creationism?
And there are those that believe dinosaurs were herded on to Noah's Ark just 4,500 years ago
Dinosaurs and the Bible - Answers in Genesis
These people like to use the phrase "fits quite nicely" a lot when explaining Creationism, presumably to children, given the language it's written in
Dinosaurs and the Bible - Answers in Genesis
These people like to use the phrase "fits quite nicely" a lot when explaining Creationism, presumably to children, given the language it's written in
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill
Creationism?
In the most recent polls I have read the results are slightly different, but not by much;
The Gallop Poll; 66% of Americans believe in creationism, 14% believe in Evolution.
The CBS Poll 51% of Americans believe in Creationism, 15% believe in evolution.
In both polls the remaining people believe in " God guided Evolution."
I think belief in Creationism is certainly decreasing, but belief in evolution is not growing porportionately. I would then wonder why it is not, it suggest to me theres a growing number of people who are content in " Just not knowing what to believe." Which would suggest that Agnosticism should be growing.
I believe in creationism to be how we got here, and really see nothingelse to convince me otherwise.
Peace.
The Gallop Poll; 66% of Americans believe in creationism, 14% believe in Evolution.
The CBS Poll 51% of Americans believe in Creationism, 15% believe in evolution.
In both polls the remaining people believe in " God guided Evolution."
I think belief in Creationism is certainly decreasing, but belief in evolution is not growing porportionately. I would then wonder why it is not, it suggest to me theres a growing number of people who are content in " Just not knowing what to believe." Which would suggest that Agnosticism should be growing.
I believe in creationism to be how we got here, and really see nothingelse to convince me otherwise.
Peace.
Creationism?
Wow, Micky, you've wondered away from your own threads. That's very cool and welcome to the rest of the world. 
Perhaps you can direct us to the polls you've referenced.
As for your last sentence: Fair enough, though I hope you are open-minded enough to entertain all explanations and consider them based on their merits and not prejudged opinions.

Perhaps you can direct us to the polls you've referenced.
As for your last sentence: Fair enough, though I hope you are open-minded enough to entertain all explanations and consider them based on their merits and not prejudged opinions.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
This could be Mickiel's ancestor and maybe mine as well.
History The Origin of Human Kind Australopithecus Afarensis Lucy Pre Zinjanthropus Boisie Homo Habilis
History The Origin of Human Kind Australopithecus Afarensis Lucy Pre Zinjanthropus Boisie Homo Habilis
Creationism?
Here is an interesting article.
The guy in the picture looks a lot like my Uncle Patrice.
Ancient DNA and Neanderthals
They are also finding that a majority of the African populations have no Neanderthal DNA, compared to much of the European, Central Asian and Polynesian.
The guy in the picture looks a lot like my Uncle Patrice.
Ancient DNA and Neanderthals
They are also finding that a majority of the African populations have no Neanderthal DNA, compared to much of the European, Central Asian and Polynesian.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
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Creationism?
Lon;1347493 wrote: This could be Mickiel's ancestor and maybe mine as well.
History The Origin of Human Kind Australopithecus Afarensis Lucy Pre Zinjanthropus Boisie Homo Habilis
I do not believe humans are continous with the idiot hiearchy of speechless apes. I believe humans can only be born from humans, and nothing in my study has produced any evidence that an animal can produce a human. Nor could a pool of chemicals produce an animal. Nor could an explosion in space produce chemicals. Nor could empty space produce an explosion. Nor could empty space produce itself. There must be a producer in order for products to exist, and I believe that is God.
Language came from a being who speaks, eyes came from a creator who sees. Consciousness was produced by a Conscious being. The human mind was created by a being with a mind, not by " Unthinking matter which created itself!"
Education was produced by an educator, communication was designed by a communicator, Love was creater by a Lover.
Its academic in my view.
Peace.
History The Origin of Human Kind Australopithecus Afarensis Lucy Pre Zinjanthropus Boisie Homo Habilis
I do not believe humans are continous with the idiot hiearchy of speechless apes. I believe humans can only be born from humans, and nothing in my study has produced any evidence that an animal can produce a human. Nor could a pool of chemicals produce an animal. Nor could an explosion in space produce chemicals. Nor could empty space produce an explosion. Nor could empty space produce itself. There must be a producer in order for products to exist, and I believe that is God.
Language came from a being who speaks, eyes came from a creator who sees. Consciousness was produced by a Conscious being. The human mind was created by a being with a mind, not by " Unthinking matter which created itself!"
Education was produced by an educator, communication was designed by a communicator, Love was creater by a Lover.
Its academic in my view.
Peace.
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347483 wrote: Wow, Micky, you've wondered away from your own threads. That's very cool and welcome to the rest of the world. 
Perhaps you can direct us to the polls you've referenced.
As for your last sentence: Fair enough, though I hope you are open-minded enough to entertain all explanations and consider them based on their merits and not prejudged opinions.
Well I just read another poll by CNN which stated 40% of Americans believe in creation, so I think the true percentage is probally in the 40 something percentile, its not common to gauge different polls.
Peace.

Perhaps you can direct us to the polls you've referenced.
As for your last sentence: Fair enough, though I hope you are open-minded enough to entertain all explanations and consider them based on their merits and not prejudged opinions.
Well I just read another poll by CNN which stated 40% of Americans believe in creation, so I think the true percentage is probally in the 40 something percentile, its not common to gauge different polls.
Peace.
Creationism?
Mickiel, what do you think of the idea that seafood is good brain food?
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347508 wrote: Mickiel, what do you think of the idea that seafood is good brain food?
It " Sounds Fishy", but I don't know anything about it. I think all food is good for the brain and all other physical parts of the body.
Peace.
It " Sounds Fishy", but I don't know anything about it. I think all food is good for the brain and all other physical parts of the body.
Peace.
Creationism?
Mickiel;1347510 wrote: It " Sounds Fishy", but I don't know anything about it. I think all food is good for the brain and all other physical parts of the body.
Peace.Good one!
You're saying that although doctors say red meats are cause for concern to the heart, you doubt their claims?
Peace.Good one!

You're saying that although doctors say red meats are cause for concern to the heart, you doubt their claims?
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347511 wrote: Good one! 
You're saying that although doctors say red meats are cause for concern to the heart, you doubt their claims?
Well I don't doubt their claims, but I am not going to stop eating it.
Peace.

You're saying that although doctors say red meats are cause for concern to the heart, you doubt their claims?
Well I don't doubt their claims, but I am not going to stop eating it.
Peace.
Creationism?
Mickiel;1347512 wrote: Well I don't doubt their claims, but I am not going to stop eating it.
Peace.My point is that there are foods that are known to be good for us and other foods that are not so good, would you agree with that statement?
Peace.My point is that there are foods that are known to be good for us and other foods that are not so good, would you agree with that statement?
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347513 wrote: My point is that there are foods that are known to be good for us and other foods that are not so good, would you agree with that statement?
And in the longer run, they have " Re-found" that some of those they claimed were no good, turned out being good. I think they will find the same thing out about red meats. I don't know about foods, it never has been an intrest of mine other than eating it. So you'd be better off asking another.
Peace.
And in the longer run, they have " Re-found" that some of those they claimed were no good, turned out being good. I think they will find the same thing out about red meats. I don't know about foods, it never has been an intrest of mine other than eating it. So you'd be better off asking another.
Peace.
Creationism?
Mickiel;1347514 wrote: And in the longer run, they have " Re-found" that some of those they claimed were no good, turned out being good. I think they will find the same thing out about red meats. I don't know about foods, it never has been an intrest of mine other than eating it. So you'd be better off asking another.
Peace.You're not concerned with how diet affects your physical health? There is nothing more basic to good health than what we eat.
Peace.You're not concerned with how diet affects your physical health? There is nothing more basic to good health than what we eat.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347515 wrote: You're not concerned with how diet affects your physical health? There is nothing more basic to good health than what we eat.
Well I know, but I am spoiled, I have never been real sick in 55 years of living. I think I eat pretty healthy, drink a lot of water and juice. Eat vegetables and fruits, nuts and take vitamins, but I sure eat a lot of red meat, and enjoy it. Chicken and corned beef, hot dogs and hamburgers, and so far, so good. I don't eat pork all that much, but I eat a lot of bread. In fact my personal doctor took me off of 6 month visatations and made it once a year, because I never have serious problems with my health.
But I just thank God for that.
Peace.
Well I know, but I am spoiled, I have never been real sick in 55 years of living. I think I eat pretty healthy, drink a lot of water and juice. Eat vegetables and fruits, nuts and take vitamins, but I sure eat a lot of red meat, and enjoy it. Chicken and corned beef, hot dogs and hamburgers, and so far, so good. I don't eat pork all that much, but I eat a lot of bread. In fact my personal doctor took me off of 6 month visatations and made it once a year, because I never have serious problems with my health.
But I just thank God for that.
Peace.
Creationism?
Mickiel;1347516 wrote: Well I know, but I am spoiled, I have never been real sick in 55 years of living. I think I eat pretty healthy, drink a lot of water and juice. Eat vegetables and fruits, nuts and take vitamins, but I sure eat a lot of red meat, and enjoy it. Chicken and corned beef, hot dogs and hamburgers, and so far, so good. I don't eat pork all that much, but I eat a lot of bread. In fact my personal doctor took me off of 6 month visatations and made it once a year, because I never have serious problems with my health.
But I just thank God for that.
Peace.Why then bother going to the doctor?
But I just thank God for that.
Peace.Why then bother going to the doctor?
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347518 wrote: Why then bother going to the doctor?
Because its no bother. Its free for me, I am a veteran.
Peace.
Because its no bother. Its free for me, I am a veteran.
Peace.
Creationism?
Mickiel;1347519 wrote: Because its no bother. Its free for me, I am a veteran.
Peace.It's obvious you think you're being tricked. That's unfortunate because you'd think that two people, both in their fifties, could have an adult conversation on a subject like health and food without worying about the outcome.
It's time for me to hit the hay. Good night.
Peace.It's obvious you think you're being tricked. That's unfortunate because you'd think that two people, both in their fifties, could have an adult conversation on a subject like health and food without worying about the outcome.
It's time for me to hit the hay. Good night.

“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347520 wrote: It's obvious you think you're being tricked. That's unfortunate because you'd think that two people, both in their fifties, could have an adult conversation on a subject like health and food without worying about the outcome.
It's time for me to hit the hay. Good night.
Being tricked? I am simply answering your questions. And being totally honest.
Its unfortunate that you think, that I think, that you would try to trick me.
Peace.
It's time for me to hit the hay. Good night.

Being tricked? I am simply answering your questions. And being totally honest.
Its unfortunate that you think, that I think, that you would try to trick me.
Peace.
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Mickiel;1347521 wrote: Being tricked? I am simply answering your questions. And being totally honest.
Its unfortunate that you think, that I think, that you would try to trick me.
Peace.
Its unfortunate that you think, that I think, that you would try to trick me.
Peace.
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347520 wrote: It's obvious you think you're being tricked. That's unfortunate because you'd think that two people, both in their fifties, could have an adult conversation on a subject like health and food without worying about the outcome.
It's time for me to hit the hay. Good night.
Awwwh, Ahso, I am sorry that this didn't work out like you wanted.
But look at it this way, you can try again tommorrow. You'll still have your brain, and I will still have mine.
Peace.
It's time for me to hit the hay. Good night.

Awwwh, Ahso, I am sorry that this didn't work out like you wanted.
But look at it this way, you can try again tommorrow. You'll still have your brain, and I will still have mine.
Peace.
Creationism?
Any creationists care to explain how if all people descended from Adam and Eve, we don't all look the same? There's an amazing amount of variation within the human species:
YouTube - Abigail & Brittany Hensel (Age 19)
YouTube - Abigail & Brittany Hensel (Age 19)
Creationism?
How the world was created:
Creationism?
Mickiel;1347524 wrote: Awwwh, Ahso, I am sorry that this didn't work out like you wanted.
But look at it this way, you can try again tommorrow. You'll still have your brain, and I will still have mine.
Peace.It worked out just fine, Mickey. Baby steps.
But look at it this way, you can try again tommorrow. You'll still have your brain, and I will still have mine.
Peace.It worked out just fine, Mickey. Baby steps.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
yaaarrrgg;1347525 wrote: Any creationists care to explain how if all people descended from Adam and Eve, we don't all look the same? There's an amazing amount of variation within the human species:
YouTube - Abigail & Brittany Hensel (Age 19)
Well I think that Adam and Eve were " Mid Brown" in color, simular to a " Light Skinned Black person." The science of pigmentology has proven that from two light skinned blacks, we could result in all the ranges of races on earth, but interestingly, no other two colors could produce this. They used " Microcondinal DNA" to study this.
Peace.
YouTube - Abigail & Brittany Hensel (Age 19)
Well I think that Adam and Eve were " Mid Brown" in color, simular to a " Light Skinned Black person." The science of pigmentology has proven that from two light skinned blacks, we could result in all the ranges of races on earth, but interestingly, no other two colors could produce this. They used " Microcondinal DNA" to study this.
Peace.
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347557 wrote: It worked out just fine, Mickey. Baby steps.
Well just remember that you are transparent, and I see through you.
Peace.
Well just remember that you are transparent, and I see through you.
Peace.
Creationism?
Mickiel;1347578 wrote: Well just remember that you are transparent, and I see through you.
Peace.The only thing you've shown is you fear me.
Peace.The only thing you've shown is you fear me.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347583 wrote: The only thing you've shown is you fear me.
I fear any thinking that is against creation, it scares me that some people actually believe that we evolved from rocks. And that the rocks were the result of an imaginary explosion in space. And then that imaginary explosion magically produced and created " Chemicals", which somehow found their way to an earth that just happened to be magically there to. Chemicals floating in a " Space that just happened to be there", landed on earth and magically produced Life. Then that life recreated itself into lifeform after lifeform, until it magically crawled out of the sea and evolved into an animal, which over time evolved into and ape, which over time evolved into a human, then decided that was enough evolving and has remained human ever since. And this thinking certainly does scare me, because it is nothing short of the greatest miracle ever! And most Atheist who swallow this don't even believe in miracles.
Its frigthening to me that people believe this.
Peace.
I fear any thinking that is against creation, it scares me that some people actually believe that we evolved from rocks. And that the rocks were the result of an imaginary explosion in space. And then that imaginary explosion magically produced and created " Chemicals", which somehow found their way to an earth that just happened to be magically there to. Chemicals floating in a " Space that just happened to be there", landed on earth and magically produced Life. Then that life recreated itself into lifeform after lifeform, until it magically crawled out of the sea and evolved into an animal, which over time evolved into and ape, which over time evolved into a human, then decided that was enough evolving and has remained human ever since. And this thinking certainly does scare me, because it is nothing short of the greatest miracle ever! And most Atheist who swallow this don't even believe in miracles.
Its frigthening to me that people believe this.
Peace.
Creationism?
It very much scares me that there are people who are very selective in the science they wish to believe. I'm scared that there sre people who think the world is only c6,000 old and that we walked with dinosaurs.I'm scared that people scoff at "magically crawled out of the sea" but are prepared to believe in the magical myth of "God created the world in 6 days". And presumably the other billion galaxies that we cant see with the naked eye. What did God do to amuse himself, for the infinity before he created the universe. You are not prepared to accept the Big Bang from your percieved nothingness but are willing to believe in a nothingness before God, as surely there has to be a begining to everything
This thinking certainly does scare me
This thinking certainly does scare me
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill
Creationism?
That's too bad, Mickey, life must be hard for you. I guess with the idea that you'll go to hell hanging over your head if you disagrees with the dogma of the religious right, you should be scared - they count on it having exactly that effect. I'm glad I'm not manipulated like that any longer (I was at one time, you know), I'm free now.
BTW, the fear comes across quite strongly in your posts, but you must have known that, since you wear it like a badge.
BTW, the fear comes across quite strongly in your posts, but you must have known that, since you wear it like a badge.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
Snowfire;1347590 wrote: It very much scares me that there are people who are very selective in the science they wish to believe. I'm scared that there sre people who think the world is only c6,000 old and that we walked with dinosaurs.I'm scared that people scoff at "magically crawled out of the sea" but are prepared to believe in the magical myth of "God created the world in 6 days". And presumably the other billion galaxies that we cant see with the naked eye. What did God do to amuse himself, for the infinity before he created the universe. You are not prepared to accept the Big Bang from your percieved nothingness but are willing to believe in a nothingness before God, as surely there has to be a begining to everything
This thinking certainly does scare me
I believe the earth is at least 4 billion years old, the universe about 14 billion years old. I do not believe God created it in " Six days", one day to him is like a thousand years to us. Each one of those " seven days', could have been thousands of earth years each, I disagree with those who believe in this six days of creation myth, they are measuring the days wrong. And I would rather not know how God got here, than to quess on how we got here.
Peace.
This thinking certainly does scare me
I believe the earth is at least 4 billion years old, the universe about 14 billion years old. I do not believe God created it in " Six days", one day to him is like a thousand years to us. Each one of those " seven days', could have been thousands of earth years each, I disagree with those who believe in this six days of creation myth, they are measuring the days wrong. And I would rather not know how God got here, than to quess on how we got here.
Peace.
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347591 wrote: That's too bad, Mickey, life must be hard for you. I guess with the idea that you'll go to hell hanging over your head if you disagrees with the dogma of the religious right, you should be scared - they count on it having exactly that effect. I'm glad I'm not manipulated like that any longer (I was at one time, you know), I'm free now.
BTW, the fear comes across quite strongly in your posts, but you must have known that, since you wear it like a badge.
I do not believe in the christian hell, and strongly disagree with it, as I disagree with the religious right. I strongly disagree with the Atheist as well, all of them have it wrong in my view. And I do wear my fears, I like to keep them outside of me where I can see them. The belief in evolution is quite fearful to me, it pretends that the five senses in humans came from Apes, that our memory abilitys came from apes, that our sexual drive came from apes, that our religion-governments-civilizations-science-technologys-agriculture and language, CAME FROM APES!
Good greif, thats worse than a horror movie , nothing is more scary to my mind than that, we are in no way continous with the idiot hiearchy of speechless monkeys.
I know I am not!
Peace.
BTW, the fear comes across quite strongly in your posts, but you must have known that, since you wear it like a badge.
I do not believe in the christian hell, and strongly disagree with it, as I disagree with the religious right. I strongly disagree with the Atheist as well, all of them have it wrong in my view. And I do wear my fears, I like to keep them outside of me where I can see them. The belief in evolution is quite fearful to me, it pretends that the five senses in humans came from Apes, that our memory abilitys came from apes, that our sexual drive came from apes, that our religion-governments-civilizations-science-technologys-agriculture and language, CAME FROM APES!
Good greif, thats worse than a horror movie , nothing is more scary to my mind than that, we are in no way continous with the idiot hiearchy of speechless monkeys.
I know I am not!
Peace.
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Mickiel;1347596 wrote:
Good greif, thats worse than a horror movie , nothing is more scary to my mind than that, we are in no way continous with the idiot hiearchy of speechless monkeys.
I know I am not!
Peace.
Are you sure about that? you did end up with bannanas and pointed sticks in you last thread.
Good greif, thats worse than a horror movie , nothing is more scary to my mind than that, we are in no way continous with the idiot hiearchy of speechless monkeys.
I know I am not!
Peace.
Are you sure about that? you did end up with bannanas and pointed sticks in you last thread.
Creationism?
Mickiel;1347596 wrote: I do not believe in the christian hell, and strongly disagree with it, as I disagree with the religious right. I strongly disagree with the Atheist as well, all of them have it wrong in my view. And I do wear my fears, I like to keep them outside of me where I can see them. The belief in evolution is quite fearful to me, it pretends that the five senses in humans came from Apes, that our memory abilitys came from apes, that our sexual drive came from apes, that our religion-governments-civilizations-science-technologys-agriculture and language, CAME FROM APES!
Good greif, thats worse than a horror movie , nothing is more scary to my mind than that, we are in no way continous with the idiot hiearchy of speechless monkeys.
I know I am not!
Peace.If you disagree with the religious right, why then do you parrot what they say? For example, all the references you made concerning Apes, is dogma from the religious right-wing. What that proves though is that you are behaving exactly as any Darwinian student would predict with your Mondey see - Monkey do approach to arguing (they say it, you repeat it, and then deny you've done any of it). Monkey games if I've ever seem them. You don't come from Monkeys, Mickey, like it or not, you are one, just a unique breed of Monkey we call Human.
Good greif, thats worse than a horror movie , nothing is more scary to my mind than that, we are in no way continous with the idiot hiearchy of speechless monkeys.
I know I am not!
Peace.If you disagree with the religious right, why then do you parrot what they say? For example, all the references you made concerning Apes, is dogma from the religious right-wing. What that proves though is that you are behaving exactly as any Darwinian student would predict with your Mondey see - Monkey do approach to arguing (they say it, you repeat it, and then deny you've done any of it). Monkey games if I've ever seem them. You don't come from Monkeys, Mickey, like it or not, you are one, just a unique breed of Monkey we call Human.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
littleCJelkton;1347601 wrote: Are you sure about that? you did end up with bannanas and pointed sticks in you last thread.
Well I understand that you offer sarcasm to me, its what you have to offer in rebuttal.
I offer your sarcasm more of the same that I have to give: Reason.
For the sake of arguement, lets imagine the Atheist are right and life somehow sprang to life in self-replicating form and spawned all life as we know it. And lets also imagine this was at least somehow represented in the fossil record. Explain to me how would creatures be able to evolve and change into different ones? Well there are two ways; Crossbreeding and mutation. I do not dispute that " Horizontal Variation" ( Microevolution) exist. All species have a certain range of differences. But " Vertical Transformation ( Macroevolution) where one kind of species transforms into another, is so rare that it is not allowed. Imagine an Amoeba turning into a man, or an Amoeba turning into an Ape. So we try " Crossbreeding", but when abnormal lines are crossed, sterility is the result. A horse and a Donkey can mate and produce a new animal, the Mule, but the mule is always sterile and unable to procreate. The fact that " Hybrid Offspring" do not have the ability to reproduce is strong evidence against evolution.
And I want to go into " Mutations."
Peace.
Well I understand that you offer sarcasm to me, its what you have to offer in rebuttal.
I offer your sarcasm more of the same that I have to give: Reason.
For the sake of arguement, lets imagine the Atheist are right and life somehow sprang to life in self-replicating form and spawned all life as we know it. And lets also imagine this was at least somehow represented in the fossil record. Explain to me how would creatures be able to evolve and change into different ones? Well there are two ways; Crossbreeding and mutation. I do not dispute that " Horizontal Variation" ( Microevolution) exist. All species have a certain range of differences. But " Vertical Transformation ( Macroevolution) where one kind of species transforms into another, is so rare that it is not allowed. Imagine an Amoeba turning into a man, or an Amoeba turning into an Ape. So we try " Crossbreeding", but when abnormal lines are crossed, sterility is the result. A horse and a Donkey can mate and produce a new animal, the Mule, but the mule is always sterile and unable to procreate. The fact that " Hybrid Offspring" do not have the ability to reproduce is strong evidence against evolution.
And I want to go into " Mutations."
Peace.
Creationism?
Ahso!;1347603 wrote: If you disagree with the religious right, why then do you parrot what they say? For example, all the references you made concerning Apes, is dogma from the religious right-wing. What that proves though is that you are behaving exactly as any Darwinian student would predict with your Mondey see - Monkey do approach to arguing (they say it, you repeat it, and then deny you've done any of it). Monkey games if I've ever seem them. You don't come from Monkeys, Mickey, like it or not, you are one, just a unique breed of Monkey we call Human.
I am not a Monkey, and theres nothing you can say or do to turn me into one. Now you can live your life believing that you are one, which I consider a belief that is close to maddness, such is your illusion of life.
And one more thing, I parrot nobody, I walk alone in my belief, I don't care who you compare me to.
Peace.
I am not a Monkey, and theres nothing you can say or do to turn me into one. Now you can live your life believing that you are one, which I consider a belief that is close to maddness, such is your illusion of life.
And one more thing, I parrot nobody, I walk alone in my belief, I don't care who you compare me to.
Peace.
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Creationism?
Mickiel;1347606 wrote: I am not a Monkey, and theres nothing you can say or do to turn me into one. Now you can live your life believing that you are one, which I consider a belief that is close to maddness, such is your illusion of life.
And one more thing, I parrot nobody, I walk alone in my belief, I don't care who you compare me to.
Peace.
COOL you dont care who we compare you to so can I compare you to this
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And one more thing, I parrot nobody, I walk alone in my belief, I don't care who you compare me to.
Peace.
COOL you dont care who we compare you to so can I compare you to this
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Creationism?
littleCJelkton;1347607 wrote: COOL you dont care who we compare you to so can I compare you to this
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Well I understand this to be what your mind has to offer this debate, I offer this: Reason.
Now on to " Mutations", which many people believe offers the best explination for evolution. I offer a quote from Darwin himself, on page 233 of the " Blind Watchmaker". " The more " Macro" a mutation is, the more likely it is to be deleterious, and the less likely it is to be incorporated in the evolution of the species. As a matter of fact, virtually all the mutations studied in genetic labs , are deleterious to the animals possessing them.
In further fact, " Alfred Russell Wallace", Darwins co-founder of the theory of evolution, his partner, recanted the theory as false soon after he saw the results of these experiments. Further disproof of the theory, and it is STILL a theory.
Peace.
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Well I understand this to be what your mind has to offer this debate, I offer this: Reason.
Now on to " Mutations", which many people believe offers the best explination for evolution. I offer a quote from Darwin himself, on page 233 of the " Blind Watchmaker". " The more " Macro" a mutation is, the more likely it is to be deleterious, and the less likely it is to be incorporated in the evolution of the species. As a matter of fact, virtually all the mutations studied in genetic labs , are deleterious to the animals possessing them.
In further fact, " Alfred Russell Wallace", Darwins co-founder of the theory of evolution, his partner, recanted the theory as false soon after he saw the results of these experiments. Further disproof of the theory, and it is STILL a theory.
Peace.
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Creationism?
Mickiel;1347609 wrote: Well I understand this to be what your mind has to offer this debate, I offer this: Reason.
Now on to " Mutations", which many people believe offers the best explination for evolution. I offer a quote from Darwin himself, on page 233 of the " Blind Watchmaker". " The more " Macro" a mutation is, the more likely it is to be deleterious, and the less likely it is to be incorporated in the evolution of the species. As a matter of fact, virtually all the mutations studied in genetic labs , are deleterious to the animals possessing them.
In further fact, " Alfred Russell Wallace", Darwins co-founder of the theory of evolution, his partner, recanted the theory as false soon after he saw the results of these experiments. Further disproof of the theory, and it is STILL a theory.
Peace.
I don't debate you any more as you don't debate just have endless post of craziness, maybe with a shred of truth thrown in here or there to make it sound believable, I just let all your post stand as what they are crap. No point in getting all dirty and nasty by trying to wrestle with a bunch of crap, but please go on and continue explaining ravens, writing desk, pointed sticks, and bananas. It really is quite hillarious that you and probably others believe this, and I find it quite entertaining.
Now on to " Mutations", which many people believe offers the best explination for evolution. I offer a quote from Darwin himself, on page 233 of the " Blind Watchmaker". " The more " Macro" a mutation is, the more likely it is to be deleterious, and the less likely it is to be incorporated in the evolution of the species. As a matter of fact, virtually all the mutations studied in genetic labs , are deleterious to the animals possessing them.
In further fact, " Alfred Russell Wallace", Darwins co-founder of the theory of evolution, his partner, recanted the theory as false soon after he saw the results of these experiments. Further disproof of the theory, and it is STILL a theory.
Peace.
I don't debate you any more as you don't debate just have endless post of craziness, maybe with a shred of truth thrown in here or there to make it sound believable, I just let all your post stand as what they are crap. No point in getting all dirty and nasty by trying to wrestle with a bunch of crap, but please go on and continue explaining ravens, writing desk, pointed sticks, and bananas. It really is quite hillarious that you and probably others believe this, and I find it quite entertaining.
Creationism?
Mickiel;1347606 wrote: I am not a Monkey, and theres nothing you can say or do to turn me into one. Now you can live your life believing that you are one, which I consider a belief that is close to maddness, such is your illusion of life.
And one more thing, I parrot nobody, I walk alone in my belief, I don't care who you compare me to.
Peace.Are you saying you came to all these conclusions yourself, Mickey? As I've pointed out, nobody really familiar with Evolution has ever stated we came from Monkeys or Apes (that is misinformation from the religious right which you yourself repeated), instead it's said we are cousins and share a common ancestor somewhere.
You are a member of a species which is a unique breed of Monkey, Mickey, we all are. There's no need to feel alone, nothing changes due to that fact other than your conscious being. The sooner you embrace this the sooner you can break free of the dogma that binds you and begin to understand why you do some of the things you do.
You want to know true humility, Mickey? Consider the fact that we are not special to anyone but ourselves, that nobody but us favors us above any other living creature. See yourself as equal to the least and then you've achieved true enlightenment and humility. No God made you or me or anyone else master over anything - that's egotistical, arrogant and prideful. As a species we have evolved this special tool called cognitive ability within our brain which we can use for the benefit of all species and the planet, or we can use it to destroy ourselves. Up to this point we've chosen the latter due to denial of who and what we are. We deny ourselves to our own peril.
And one more thing, I parrot nobody, I walk alone in my belief, I don't care who you compare me to.
Peace.Are you saying you came to all these conclusions yourself, Mickey? As I've pointed out, nobody really familiar with Evolution has ever stated we came from Monkeys or Apes (that is misinformation from the religious right which you yourself repeated), instead it's said we are cousins and share a common ancestor somewhere.
You are a member of a species which is a unique breed of Monkey, Mickey, we all are. There's no need to feel alone, nothing changes due to that fact other than your conscious being. The sooner you embrace this the sooner you can break free of the dogma that binds you and begin to understand why you do some of the things you do.
You want to know true humility, Mickey? Consider the fact that we are not special to anyone but ourselves, that nobody but us favors us above any other living creature. See yourself as equal to the least and then you've achieved true enlightenment and humility. No God made you or me or anyone else master over anything - that's egotistical, arrogant and prideful. As a species we have evolved this special tool called cognitive ability within our brain which we can use for the benefit of all species and the planet, or we can use it to destroy ourselves. Up to this point we've chosen the latter due to denial of who and what we are. We deny ourselves to our own peril.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Creationism?
littleCJelkton;1347610 wrote: I don't debate you any more as you don't debate just have endless post of craziness, maybe with a shred of truth thrown in here or there to make it sound believable, I just let all your post stand as what they are crap. No point in getting all dirty and nasty by trying to wrestle with a bunch of crap, but please go on and continue explaining ravens, writing desk, pointed sticks, and bananas. It really is quite hillarious that you and probably others believe this, and I find it quite entertaining.
Well I understand this to be all your mind has to offer this debate, I have this to offer: Reason.
The fossil record in our earth is definte proof that evolution didnot even exist.
The fossil record reveals a total absence of multicellular lifeforms in the lower two thirds of the earths crust. This is referred to as " The Precambrian Period." Then, advanced life appears in abundant numbers during then " Cambrian Period." This period contains the oldest rocks in which complex fossils are found. The Cambrian sedimentary rock fossils contain many millions of highly advanced and well developed life forms. This is referred to as the " Cambrian Explosion."
In the precambrian period, the fossil record only has sparse, unicellular fossils. In the Cambrian period, the fossil records indicates life appeared suddenly in tremendous complexity, great diversity and unbelievable abundance without evolving from any ancestors. There is no gradual evolution of the fossil record. If everything developed magically from the same primordal soup, certainly there would be some very basic creatures that would have existed between the soup and the creatures we are familiar with, there are not!
And I want to go futher in exposing this fallicy.
Peace.
Well I understand this to be all your mind has to offer this debate, I have this to offer: Reason.
The fossil record in our earth is definte proof that evolution didnot even exist.
The fossil record reveals a total absence of multicellular lifeforms in the lower two thirds of the earths crust. This is referred to as " The Precambrian Period." Then, advanced life appears in abundant numbers during then " Cambrian Period." This period contains the oldest rocks in which complex fossils are found. The Cambrian sedimentary rock fossils contain many millions of highly advanced and well developed life forms. This is referred to as the " Cambrian Explosion."
In the precambrian period, the fossil record only has sparse, unicellular fossils. In the Cambrian period, the fossil records indicates life appeared suddenly in tremendous complexity, great diversity and unbelievable abundance without evolving from any ancestors. There is no gradual evolution of the fossil record. If everything developed magically from the same primordal soup, certainly there would be some very basic creatures that would have existed between the soup and the creatures we are familiar with, there are not!
And I want to go futher in exposing this fallicy.
Peace.
Creationism?
See what I mean, Mickey? You are simply parroting religious right-wing propaganda.Mickiel;1347609 wrote: Now on to " Mutations", which many people believe offers the best explination for evolution. I offer a quote from Darwin himself, on page 233 of the " Blind Watchmaker". " The more " Macro" a mutation is, the more likely it is to be deleterious, and the less likely it is to be incorporated in the evolution of the species. As a matter of fact, virtually all the mutations studied in genetic labs , are deleterious to the animals possessing them.Where did you get the notion that Darwin said this? He didn't. You can read the entire page here: The blind watchmaker: why the ... - Google Books
Mickiel;1347609 wrote: In further fact, " Alfred Russell Wallace", Darwins co-founder of the theory of evolution, his partner, recanted the theory as false soon after he saw the results of these experiments. Further disproof of the theory, and it is STILL a theory.
Peace.Where did you get this information, Mickey?
Alfred Russel Wallace - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mickiel;1347609 wrote: In further fact, " Alfred Russell Wallace", Darwins co-founder of the theory of evolution, his partner, recanted the theory as false soon after he saw the results of these experiments. Further disproof of the theory, and it is STILL a theory.
Peace.Where did you get this information, Mickey?
Alfred Russel Wallace - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple