White House: No E.T. visits, no UFO cover-up - Technology & science - Space - msnbc.com
Often our governments feel a necessity to keep from us 'the public' things that we should probably have some knowledge about .......or perhaps not?
BTW One more question....
Which of you are Aliens??:-3
Lady J
With all this space how can we be the only ones here?
With all this space how can we be the only ones here?
I confess---------I am a Kronuvian from the far distant galaxy of Perculean.
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Lady J;1374787 wrote: Which of you are Aliens??:-3A detailed description of why the correct answer is "we all are" may be found at Space opera in Scientology scripture.
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Lady J;1374787 wrote: White House: No E.T. visits, no UFO cover-up - Technology & science - Space - msnbc.com
Often our governments feel a necessity to keep from us 'the public' things that we should probably have some knowledge about .......or perhaps not?
BTW One more question....
Which of you are Aliens??:-3
Lady J
I don't know if this makes me an alien or a middle aged woman with an immature sense of humor, but I always laugh at "there are rings around Uranus."
Often our governments feel a necessity to keep from us 'the public' things that we should probably have some knowledge about .......or perhaps not?
BTW One more question....
Which of you are Aliens??:-3
Lady J
I don't know if this makes me an alien or a middle aged woman with an immature sense of humor, but I always laugh at "there are rings around Uranus."
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SnoozeAgain;1374804 wrote: I don't know if this makes me an alien or a middle aged woman with an immature sense of humor, but I always laugh at "there are rings around Uranus." Which Is why one of my school teachers always pronounced It..... Yer- rin- ous...
Class being disrupted by 30 sniggering, giggling 12 year olds was too much for him.
Class being disrupted by 30 sniggering, giggling 12 year olds was too much for him.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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spot;1374800 wrote: A detailed description of why the correct answer is "we all are" may be found at Space opera in Scientology scripture.I absolutely cannot believe that made it's way on wikipedia...
Anyone willing to bring up "Luke Skywalker's Tatooine home in Star Wars" then I'm going to have to reference Dr. Who as being a prime example of a counter argument...But then again I suppose all of it is speculative...Astronomers discover planet with two suns just like Luke Skywalker's Tatooine home in Star Wars - mirror.co.uk
I would say I'm one number shy of infinitely certain that there is life on another planet or moon similar to what we've observed as being evident here on Earth while also suggesting that while it's possible for aliens to visit another planet that I'm equally certain no human on planet Earth has observed this...
Area 51 wasn't so much a governmental cover-up as it was an amusement carnival when watching how neurotic people can get when discovering one of their "top secret" military machines that happened to fly...
Anyone willing to bring up "Luke Skywalker's Tatooine home in Star Wars" then I'm going to have to reference Dr. Who as being a prime example of a counter argument...But then again I suppose all of it is speculative...Astronomers discover planet with two suns just like Luke Skywalker's Tatooine home in Star Wars - mirror.co.uk
I would say I'm one number shy of infinitely certain that there is life on another planet or moon similar to what we've observed as being evident here on Earth while also suggesting that while it's possible for aliens to visit another planet that I'm equally certain no human on planet Earth has observed this...
Area 51 wasn't so much a governmental cover-up as it was an amusement carnival when watching how neurotic people can get when discovering one of their "top secret" military machines that happened to fly...
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In terms of inhabitants the universe probably looks like downtown Manhattan on New Year's Eve ... :wah:
Why don't they make contact then you ask? Well knowing what you know about the so called "human" race here on earth, would you wanna make contact with us? :-3
Why don't they make contact then you ask? Well knowing what you know about the so called "human" race here on earth, would you wanna make contact with us? :-3
"…I hate how I don’t feel real enough unless people are watching." — Chuck Palahniuk, Invisible Monsters
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I think the thing about detecting intelligent life elsewhere in the galaxy is that they, the intelligent aliens, can't disguise their signature either as spectral lines or other patterned electromagnetic emissions. Whether they want to communicate or not is immaterial.
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spot;1374852 wrote: I think the thing about detecting intelligent life elsewhere in the galaxy is that they, the intelligent aliens, can't disguise the signature either as spectral lines or other patterned electromagnetic emissions. Whether they want to communicate or not is immaterial.
That's telling them John!
That's telling them John!
"…I hate how I don’t feel real enough unless people are watching." — Chuck Palahniuk, Invisible Monsters
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jones jones;1374856 wrote: That's telling them John!
A reasonable convention has developed on FG that we don't use RL names in threads, certainly not indiscriminately, certainly not with monotonous regularity. Unless, of course, you have no objection to my reciprocating?
A reasonable convention has developed on FG that we don't use RL names in threads, certainly not indiscriminately, certainly not with monotonous regularity. Unless, of course, you have no objection to my reciprocating?
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left. ... Hold no regard for unsupported opinion.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
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spot;1374859 wrote: A reasonable convention has developed on FG that we don't use RL names in threads, certainly not indiscriminately, certainly not with monotonous regularity. Unless, of course, you have no objection to my reciprocating?
Your RL name is John? I had no idea. My RL name is Jim ... Well actually its James but some people call me Jimmy & and my dear old mother ... MHDSRIP used to call me Jamie. Feel free to use any of them it as often as you wish. :driving:
Your RL name is John? I had no idea. My RL name is Jim ... Well actually its James but some people call me Jimmy & and my dear old mother ... MHDSRIP used to call me Jamie. Feel free to use any of them it as often as you wish. :driving:
"…I hate how I don’t feel real enough unless people are watching." — Chuck Palahniuk, Invisible Monsters
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Thank you James, let's make it so if that's what you want.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
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spot;1374862 wrote: Thank you James, let's make it so if that's what you want.
OMG! Now you've gone and done it John Spotty! You're in big trouble dude. I am gonna have to report you.
OMG! Now you've gone and done it John Spotty! You're in big trouble dude. I am gonna have to report you.
"…I hate how I don’t feel real enough unless people are watching." — Chuck Palahniuk, Invisible Monsters
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jones jones;1374863 wrote: OMG! Now you've gone and done it John Spotty! You're in big trouble dude. I am gonna have to report you.
It's not that I remember these details, James, it's just that I remember how to look them up. And why.
Would you rather stop your over-familiarity with my name?
It's not that I remember these details, James, it's just that I remember how to look them up. And why.
Would you rather stop your over-familiarity with my name?
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left. ... Hold no regard for unsupported opinion.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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jones jones wrote: If my name is not removed from that post right now... I am gonna cause such **** for FG your head is gonna spin!
Make it happen, fat boy. Or, if you prefer, you can condescend to leaving my name out of your posts. It's your choice.
Make it happen, fat boy. Or, if you prefer, you can condescend to leaving my name out of your posts. It's your choice.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left. ... Hold no regard for unsupported opinion.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Thank you for your opinion and congratulations on your promotion to cheerleader.
As for JJ, he's leading, not me. Every time he uses my name in a post from now on, I'll use his, tit for tat. He has the simplest of ways to keep me from naming him and that's to do as I asked and stop using mine. Needling is fine but not from JJ, not when he's been pushing that particular line solidly since September. Enough's enough, and if the bugger walks off the site again that's just icing on my cake.
As for JJ, he's leading, not me. Every time he uses my name in a post from now on, I'll use his, tit for tat. He has the simplest of ways to keep me from naming him and that's to do as I asked and stop using mine. Needling is fine but not from JJ, not when he's been pushing that particular line solidly since September. Enough's enough, and if the bugger walks off the site again that's just icing on my cake.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left. ... Hold no regard for unsupported opinion.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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AFTR enters and clears her throat.
"I have often wondered if there are other beings out there in the universe. I believe there are."
AFTR bows and quietly leaves the room.
"I have often wondered if there are other beings out there in the universe. I believe there are."
AFTR bows and quietly leaves the room.
Life is a Highway. Let's share the Commute.
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There are some who suspect that all physical processes with adequate feedback systems are conscious. I'd not be surprised if they were right. It's testable.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left. ... Hold no regard for unsupported opinion.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
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I want to marry an aardvark.
With all this space how can we be the only ones here?
along-for-the-ride;1374896 wrote: AFTR enters and clears her throat.
"I have often wondered if there are other beings out there in the universe. I believe there are."
AFTR bows and quietly leaves the room.
With all the life out they AFTR how could there not be?
I agree with You.
"I have often wondered if there are other beings out there in the universe. I believe there are."
AFTR bows and quietly leaves the room.
With all the life out they AFTR how could there not be?
I agree with You.
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SnoozeAgain;1374903 wrote: I want to marry an aardvark.
Snooze even marrying an aardvark is better then associating with John Spotty.
:yh_rotfl
Snooze even marrying an aardvark is better then associating with John Spotty.
:yh_rotfl
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Lady J;1374907 wrote: Snooze even marrying an aardvark is better then associating with John Spotty.
:yh_rotfl
The site is, I'm delighted to say, not an obligatory component of the Internet; you have a very simple alternative.
:yh_rotfl
The site is, I'm delighted to say, not an obligatory component of the Internet; you have a very simple alternative.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left. ... Hold no regard for unsupported opinion.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
With all this space how can we be the only ones here?
spot;1374909 wrote: The site is, I'm delighted to say, not an obligatory component of the Internet; you have a very simple alternative.
Yes! Beam me up Scotty!
With Star Trek and Star Wars you have to wonder if Gene Roddenberry or George Lucas saw something that we did not. They were two who had imagination and the money to make it so.
This photo as well as the one before are REAL space...thank you NASA.
"Two new studies have put Einstein's General Theory of Relativity to the test like never before, using observations of galaxy clusters to study the properties of gravity on cosmic scales. These results, made using data from NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory, show Einstein's theory is still the best game in town. Such studies are crucial for understanding the evolution of the universe, both in the past and the future." from NASA
Now I ask you...how can there NOT be life out there?
Yes! Beam me up Scotty!
With Star Trek and Star Wars you have to wonder if Gene Roddenberry or George Lucas saw something that we did not. They were two who had imagination and the money to make it so.
This photo as well as the one before are REAL space...thank you NASA.
"Two new studies have put Einstein's General Theory of Relativity to the test like never before, using observations of galaxy clusters to study the properties of gravity on cosmic scales. These results, made using data from NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory, show Einstein's theory is still the best game in town. Such studies are crucial for understanding the evolution of the universe, both in the past and the future." from NASA
Now I ask you...how can there NOT be life out there?
With all this space how can we be the only ones here?
Lady J;1375143 wrote: "Two new studies have put Einstein's General Theory of Relativity to the test like never before, using observations of galaxy clusters to study the properties of gravity on cosmic scales. These results, made using data from NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory, show Einstein's theory is still the best game in town. Such studies are crucial for understanding the evolution of the universe, both in the past and the future." from NASA
Now I ask you...how can there NOT be life out there?
I see no connection between the first quoted paragraph and the second.
I've made no comment on whether there's life beyond our solar system. For all I can tell, some solar systems beyond ours have life around them. I've no idea either whether there are interstellar civilizations in other galaxies. For all I can tell, some other galaxies have interstellar civilizations. All I have claimed is that it's unlikely there is any interstellar civilization in this galaxy because, if there ever had been, it would have spread from one edge to the other in remarkably little time and left very obvious traces which we could see. Since we see no such evidence, my position has a demonstrable logic to it.
We are, I think, aspiring to become an interstellar civilization. If we achieve it, I infer we'll be the first in this galaxy. We may, of course, find lots of life as a result of going out looking for it, but we're more likely to find it earlier by analysing the spectra of planetary atmospheres.
The trouble with life is that for most of the history of life on this planet it's been firmly DNA based, immediately recognizably of the same lineage as ourselves but single-celled. That's just ooze. There are around a hundred genes which have been tightly conserved in all life on Earth ever since the common ancestor of every species currently in existence, from pond scum to giraffes, clung to the underside of a rock. Every aspect of life which enabled that common ancestor to survive had already evolved, and the pathway which led to it is practically all of evolution.
Since then life's just tinkered with itself. Multicellular life is a small skim on top of a colossal development. Life which can read and write is a thin film on top of the skim. And yet when people talk about finding life beyond this solar system they talk about something that can think and respond, they use words like "not alone". Will we be not alone if we turn up a Martian equivalent of bacteria? Chemically exciting, synthetically exciting, analytically exciting yes, but not something to exchange diplomatic missions with.
Now I ask you...how can there NOT be life out there?
I see no connection between the first quoted paragraph and the second.
I've made no comment on whether there's life beyond our solar system. For all I can tell, some solar systems beyond ours have life around them. I've no idea either whether there are interstellar civilizations in other galaxies. For all I can tell, some other galaxies have interstellar civilizations. All I have claimed is that it's unlikely there is any interstellar civilization in this galaxy because, if there ever had been, it would have spread from one edge to the other in remarkably little time and left very obvious traces which we could see. Since we see no such evidence, my position has a demonstrable logic to it.
We are, I think, aspiring to become an interstellar civilization. If we achieve it, I infer we'll be the first in this galaxy. We may, of course, find lots of life as a result of going out looking for it, but we're more likely to find it earlier by analysing the spectra of planetary atmospheres.
The trouble with life is that for most of the history of life on this planet it's been firmly DNA based, immediately recognizably of the same lineage as ourselves but single-celled. That's just ooze. There are around a hundred genes which have been tightly conserved in all life on Earth ever since the common ancestor of every species currently in existence, from pond scum to giraffes, clung to the underside of a rock. Every aspect of life which enabled that common ancestor to survive had already evolved, and the pathway which led to it is practically all of evolution.
Since then life's just tinkered with itself. Multicellular life is a small skim on top of a colossal development. Life which can read and write is a thin film on top of the skim. And yet when people talk about finding life beyond this solar system they talk about something that can think and respond, they use words like "not alone". Will we be not alone if we turn up a Martian equivalent of bacteria? Chemically exciting, synthetically exciting, analytically exciting yes, but not something to exchange diplomatic missions with.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left. ... Hold no regard for unsupported opinion.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious. [Fred Wedlock, "The Folker"]
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.