Whitney's Gone!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:20 pm

Publicist: Singing superstar Whitney Houston dies - Entertainment - Music - TODAY.com

We'll Miss You. :-1

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:30 pm

Whitney Houston, superstar of records, films, dies - Entertainment - Movies - TODAY.com

This Is a sad, sad loss.

What a shame.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:07 pm

Very Sad - drugs - we are all affected by the terrible drug epidemic by one way or another.

Whitney will be missed.

Patsy

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:18 pm

Patsy Warnick;1384251 wrote: Very Sad - drugs - we are all affected by the terrible drug epidemic by one way or another.

Whitney will be missed.

Patsy

As yet they do not know what the cause Is.

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:25 pm

Sadly, it is far too easy to reach the conclusion that drug abuse was the cause.

Given what we have heard in the gossip rags, and such, it seems all too likely that if not the the cause, drugs were a contributing factor.

Her beautiful voice gone forever.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:35 pm

LarsMac;1384258 wrote: Sadly, it is far too easy to reach the conclusion that drug abuse was the cause.

Given what we have heard in the gossip rags, and such, it seems all too likely that if not the the cause, drugs were a contributing factor.

Her beautiful voice gone forever. I do so hate It when people draw conclusions before an autopsy has even begun.

It was the same with Amy Whinehouse and those who jumped to conclusions were proved wrong.

Yes, she had a history of drug abuse but she also suffered with anorexia. The two combined could have led to a heart attack or organ failure. I'll wait for the official autopsy report before I make assumptions.......... Either way........ It's a sad loss. I loved her.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:47 pm

Nooooo. that's awful news, such a voice!

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:50 pm

Betty Boop;1384264 wrote: Nooooo. that's awful news, such a voice! You're up late ????

Post by **Betty Boop** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:55 pm

oscar;1384265 wrote: You're up late ????

Just in from partying, celebrating a friends birthday the same age as Whitney herself, surprised I can type :wah:

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:59 pm

At first I thought you meant the new TV show, just excellent, IMO

I loved the Bodyguard movie just for the soundtract.

She had a beautiful voice.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:59 pm

I'll take that jump - Amy W. also died from drugs & alcohol abuse, as soooooo many others are on that list.

I wish I was as perfect as you Oscar.

What else is killing the young talents ?

Patsy

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:11 pm

Patsy Warnick;1384268 wrote: I'll take that jump - Amy W. also died from drugs & alcohol abuse, as soooooo many others are on that list.

I wish I was as perfect as you Oscar.

What else is killing the young talents ?

Patsy

Amy Whinehouse had alcohol In her system but no Illegal substances. She died as a result of drug and alcohol abuse over a long period of time which contributed to her poor health, but It was not the cause of death.

Whitney battled anorexia which puts enormous strain on the organs.

The top 12 scary thin celebrities

You're probably right Patsy, no doubt the drugs contributed to her death nut at this stage It could be anything.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:30 pm

I'll take another jump - Neither Whitney or Amy W. died of OLD AGE.

Alcohol is a drug - legal, yes - it's still a drug.

Whitney was at Beverly Hilton Hotel - authorities stated Whitney wreaked of alcohol & tobacco.

Whitney recently made a movie which will be released August 2012.

Again this is sad news.

Patsy

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:39 pm

Patsy Warnick;1384272 wrote: I'll take another jump - Neither Whitney or Amy W. died of OLD AGE.

Alcohol is a drug - legal, yes - it's still a drug.

Whitney was at Beverly Hilton Hotel - authorities stated Whitney wreaked of alcohol & tobacco.

Whitney recently made a movie which will be released August 2012.

Again this is sad news.

Patsy

I am very anti alcohol Patsy.... sadly, young talent such as Whitney and Amy turn to alcohol and drugs to cope with being In the spot light. I'm afraid that part of It with young talent will never change.

koan · Post by **koan** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:41 pm

48?

Damn. Seems like she was drinking wrong or sumpthin'

A lot of people do drugs and drink and live well beyond 48. Just seems weird.

She was one of two people who can sing "I Will Always Love You" and actually sound good so...

That's kinda good.

That's all I've got.

oh, and **** Bobby Brown. *******.

theia · Post by **theia** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:02 am

What an incredible voice she had.

RIP Whitney

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:58 am

My reaction when I saw the news was "what!?!" then "well, that's not really a surprise" and then fond memories of her beauty and talent. Waiting to Exhale is one of my favorite "sister" movies, at the risk of sounding racist.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:02 am

I would've thought you meant sister as in sisterhood. No matter.

48 is too young. Her daughter is grown but still too young to lose her mom.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:13 am

Maybe I should have spelled it 'sista'. I've got a thing for Angela Bassett.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:41 am

Looks, fame, and money don't bring happiness.

Such a sad and premature death

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:16 am

I'd heard her sing on telly about two years ago and thought what a shame her voice had gone. It wasn't as strong or beautiful. I think she died a long time ago, she just happened to be still walking around.

RIP.

Scrat · Post by **Scrat** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:54 am

I don't feel so bad about calling it as I see it. She's not a total loser, she can still serve as a bad example. A lifetime of drug abuse does things like this. I pity her.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:01 am

Scrat;1384317 wrote: I don't feel so bad about calling it as I see it. She's not a total loser, she can still serve as a bad example. A lifetime of drug abuse does things like this. I pity her. The problem with any alcohol or drug abuse Is that even when the user gets clean, they have already damaged their organs during their addiction. Celebs go to re-hab, get clean and even spend years clean In some cases. They think they are out of the woods but the damage Is still there. Even one heavy relapse can lead to organ failure and some just don't get this. Once you have abused alcohol or drugs and got clean, your organs can continue to deteriorate.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:30 am

Scrat

I don't feel bad calling it as I see it either.

Oscar - your assuming Whitney was clean.

What ever the demons were Whitney was running from - she's now free - and hopefully at peace.

Did any one ever watch the reality show with Whitney & Bobby Brown? What a disaster.

Tonights the Grammy's - I'm sure the program has had to switch to a tribute of some kind to Whitney & the extended famous family.

Patsy

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:24 am

Rumor on another forum has it that she was in the tub getting ready for a Grammy party or something and that she possibly fell and busted her head. That sounds better than it being drugs and/or alcohol related.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:14 am

According to Yahoo, she was:

1. Doing handstands by the pool and security had to be called earlier in the day.

2. Wandering aimlessly in the lobby.

3. Was reeking of alcohol and was disheveled.

4. Was wearing mismatched clothes. (How they know, with Hollywood fashion as it is, I have no idea.)

5. Almost got in a fight at a nightclub the night before.

6. Left that nightclub with blood on her legs and scratches all over her arms.

She was a train wreck. Cocaine will do that to people. Personally, I started to feel sorry for her for a moment this morning...then I suddenly realized that this was a woman who had literally had it all and had blown it all away through sheer stupidity.

Sorry, she gets no sympathy from me.:yh_bye

theia · Post by **theia** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:19 am

Saint_;1384353 wrote: According to Yahoo, she was:

1. Doing handstands by the pool and security had to be called earlier in the day.

2. Wandering aimlessly in the lobby.

3. Was reeking of alcohol and was disheveled.

4. Was wearing mismatched clothes. (How they know, with Hollywood fashion as it is, I have no idea.)

5. Almost got in a fight at a nightclub the night before.

6. Left that nightclub with blood on her legs and scratches all over her arms.

She was a train wreck. Cocaine will do that to people. Personally, I started to feel sorry for her for a moment this morning...then I suddenly realized that this was a woman who had literally had it all and had blown it all away through sheer stupidity.

Sorry, she gets no sympathy from me.:yh_bye

But sadly it appears that she didn't have peace of mind, which has to be part of the "all."

Post by **spot** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:31 pm

Yet another victim of the corporate record industry, may it rot.

I've tried hard to recall a single occasion when anything Ms Houston did either entertained or impressed me. Nothing has sprung to mind. She purveyed untrue sentimental claptrap. She has, the news reports say, a host of successors. I doubt whether they have entertained or impressed me either.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:34 pm

spot;1384410 wrote: Yet another victim of the corporate record industry, may it rot.

I've tried hard to recall a single occasion when anything Ms Houston did either entertained or impressed me. Nothing has sprung to mind. She purveyed untrue sentimental claptrap. She has, the news reports say, a host of successors. I doubt whether they have entertained or impressed me either.

No sympathy for those left behind ???????????????????????

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:35 pm

Patsy Warnick;1384323 wrote: Scrat

I don't feel bad calling it as I see either.

Oscar - your assuming Whitney was clean.

What ever the demons were Whitney was running from - she's now free - and hopefully at peace.

Did any one ever watch the reality show with Whitney & Bobby Brown? What a disaster.

Tonights the Grammy's - I'm sure the program has had to switch to a tribute of some kind to Whitney & the extended famous family.

Patsy

I didn't say I assumed she was clean Patsy... I was giving a broad generalisation of alcohol and drug abuse when people who have got clean think health wise, they are out of the woods.

A good example of this was Mama Cass. She had got clean, stayed clean, and one relapse In her hotel room, she had a heart attack.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:36 pm

Bruv;1384411 wrote: No sympathy for those left behind ???????????????????????

The revolting Bobby Brown went on with his show last night and told the audience the show must go on.......... How about getting home to comfort your kid ???? Twat

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:29 pm

Now the daughter has been rushed to the hospital - what a mess. Bobby B. has finally decided to fly to L.A. to be by his daughters side. What a A**.

Oscar - Mama Cass was 400 lbs. and a diabetic, another train wreck in the industry.

Patsy

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:36 pm

Patsy Warnick;1384425 wrote: Now the daughter has been rushed to the hospital - what a mess. Bobby B. has finally decided to fly to L.A. to be by his daughters side. What a A**.

Oscar - Mama Cass was 400 lbs. and a diabetic, another train wreck in the industry.

Patsy

Yes, I know Patsy but the night she died, she had taken a small amount of heroin alone In her hotel room after being clean for some time. I'm going by a documentary I saw. Another sad loss.... what a voice ?

As for BB... what a twat ?? I suppose he'll do the circuit now commanding money for Interviews

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:52 pm

As I stated the list of young talent in the industry who have died is long.

Obviously no one learns - they have the habit under control - "it" won't happen to them attitude.

Your right BB will do the circuit for money or try to - who wants to hear him? Can't stand him.

Here Bobby - here's another "line" for ya.

I have no interest - no respect for BB.

The autopsy is done - authorities refuse to release results. Authorities call it a security hold...?

Patsy

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:56 pm

Patsy Warnick;1384427 wrote: As I stated the list of young talent in the industry who have died is long.

Obviously no one learns - they have the habit under control - "it" won't happen to them attitude.

Your right BB will do the circuit for money or try to - who wants to hear him? Can't stand him.

Here Bobby - here's another "line" for ya.

I have no interest - no respect for BB.

The autopsy is done - authorities refuse to release results. Authorities call it a security hold...?

Patsy

It would be a wonderful gesture by all TV stations and media outlets to boycott BB.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:10 pm

and the family should boycott BB.

can't stand him.....

Oscar - it's nice we agree on some thing.

Patsy

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:27 pm

Patsy Warnick;1384429 wrote: and the family should boycott BB.

can't stand him.....

Oscar - it's nice we agree on some thing.

Patsy

Agreed.

Does this mean the wife batterer Is now going to have soul custody of that poor child ?

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:11 pm

I think jennifer hudson did a nice job tonight

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:44 pm

I agree Flop - Jennifer did a good job & stayed composed.

I cried

What a baby..!

Patsy

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:04 pm

It was touching but I still think only Whitney and Dolly ever performed that song properly. Dolly being the best.

Post by **spot** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:47 am

I was disagreed with last night about the "untrue sentimental claptrap". If anyone would like to name even one of her songs in which the lyrics aren't, I'll go and see. I know of none.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:53 am

spot;1384448 wrote: I was disagreed with last night about the "untrue sentimental claptrap". If anyone would like to name even one of her songs in which the lyrics aren't, I'll go and see. I know of none.

Who cares what her lyrics contained ? What you're now an authority on Black soul queens are you Spot..

She brought pleasure to millions of people and more Importantly, Inspired young girls all over the world........... Who gives a toss what you think about her ? You are who ????

Post by **spot** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:01 am

oscar;1384451 wrote: Who cares what her lyrics contained ? What you're now an authority on Black soul queens are you Spot..

She brought pleasure to millions of people and more Importantly, Inspired young girls all over the world........... Who gives a toss what you think about her ? You are who ????

Someone to whom "Who cares what her lyrics contained", when discussing a singer, is anathema. Name a song, let's see whether the lyrics have any honesty about them, let's see whether they relate to the real world.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:07 am

spot;1384452 wrote: Someone to whom "Who cares what her lyrics contained", when discussing a singer, is anathema. Name a song, let's see whether the lyrics have any honesty about them, let's see whether they relate to the real world. I have a better Idea.... Why don't you leave this thread for those who appreciated her? I have no Interest In your opinion or challenge....

Post by **spot** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:19 am

oscar;1384453 wrote: Why don't you leave this thread for those who appreciated her?Why would I do that? A singer has died after spending her entire adult life at the dictate of the corporate record industry. Discussing the carnage the corporate record industry inflicts on those it entraps is a reasonable response.

The drivel and lies the corporate record industry uses to bedazzle "millions of people", among whom you focus on "young girls all over the world", is at the core of this week's tragedy and the "oh poor Whitney what a waste of a voice" we're being subject to. We could, for example, compare the independent record movement and see whether artists live more comfortably under that alternative system.

Perhaps the independent record movement employs fewer lies and deceptions and avoids the glamour. "Glamour", you'll remember, carries "A magical or fictitious beauty attaching to any person or object; a delusive or alluring charm" at its root. In that sense we could say the corporate record industry is spellbinding.

oscar wrote: I have no Interest In your opinion or challenge.... Then why on earth reply to my post in the first place? I didn't post at you. You replied to a post I made in this thread. The challenge is entirely your own, it's not of my doing.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:49 am

koan;1384446 wrote: It was touching but I still think only Whitney and Dolly ever performed that song properly. Dolly being the best.

I wonder if they asked dolly? she just sang in a recent movie, but I'm not sure if she has the same chops she used to... definitely would have been interesting to hear.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:48 am

flopstock;1384456 wrote: I wonder if they asked dolly? she just sang in a recent movie, but I'm not sure if she has the same chops she used to... definitely would have been interesting to hear.
Yes, but a completely different flavor. Dolly's version was a soft ballad. Jennifer's version was closer to Whitney's.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:51 am

Accountable;1384458 wrote: Yes, but a completely different flavor. Dolly's version was a soft ballad. Jennifer's version was closer to Whitney's.

Our radio station was playing Whitneys version on my way into work and I had to sit in the car until it finished. It is still beautiful and sad.

Post by **LarsMac** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:22 am

spot;1384410 wrote: Yet another victim of the corporate record industry, may it rot.

I've tried hard to recall a single occasion when anything Ms Houston did either entertained or impressed me. Nothing has sprung to mind. She purveyed untrue sentimental claptrap. She has, the news reports say, a host of successors. I doubt whether they have entertained or impressed me either.

I never cared much for many of the songs she recorded, but her voice was remarkable.

Sadly, she was too often in the news for the wrong reasons.

As you say,

Yet another victim of the corporate record industry, may it rot.

Post by **LarsMac** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:49 pm

koan;1384275 wrote: 48?

Damn. Seems like she was drinking wrong or sumpthin'

A lot of people do drugs and drink and live well beyond 48. Just seems weird.

She was one of two people who can sing "I Will Always Love You" and actually sound good so...

That's kinda good.

That's all I've got.

oh, and **** Bobby Brown. *******.

I have known several people who fell to mixing things like Xanax and alcohol.

Of course sleeping in the bathtub is a bad idea, as well.

All together, that makes a pretty deadly trio.