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insomnia gotta love it.
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:29 am
by fuzzywuzzy
I havent had a dose of this in Ages ... so what do people normally get up to at three in the morning?
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:42 am
by fuzzywuzzy
drumming fingers on desk ... sigh ...
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:43 am
by fuzzywuzzy
who's the savvy one with law around here I need to ask a question
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:53 am
by Oscar Namechange
fuzzywuzzy;1387924 wrote: I havent had a dose of this in Ages ... so what do people normally get up to at three in the morning?
I rely solely on good hard drugs.... Prescription of course but I do suffer.
I usually suffer when I have something the next day that I must not miss but means getting up at 5 am to catch the train etc. I then can't sleep for worrying that I will over-sleep.
I get the laptop out and check the entire weeks racing results.... that does It.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:54 am
by fuzzywuzzy
I even put the telly on the shopping channel but it just ended up pissing me off.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:01 am
by Oscar Namechange
fuzzywuzzy;1387929 wrote: who's the savvy one with law around here I need to ask a question If It concerns your rights when being arrested, then I'm your girl.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:12 am
by Bruv
fuzzywuzzy;1387924 wrote: I havent had a dose of this in Ages ... so what do people normally get up to at three in the morning?
Are we talking about insomnia ?
I normally sleep like a baby.......................must be my clear conscience...........or too silly to care.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:30 am
by Oscar Namechange
Bruv;1387944 wrote: Are we talking about insomnia ?
I normally sleep like a baby.......................must be my clear conscience...........or too silly to care.
Senile Dementia ?
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:48 am
by theia
oscar;1387946 wrote: Senile Dementia ?
Nooooooooooo...that's just men for you (well most of them). The sky could be falling in and still they would be snoring away whilst the woman worries about what she should do.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:31 pm
by Bruv
Just because we are simple souls ?
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:04 pm
by fuzzywuzzy
I hate maths.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:24 pm
by Bryn Mawr
fuzzywuzzy;1388045 wrote: I hate maths.
Patterns - pretty patterns. What is there not to love?
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:29 pm
by fuzzywuzzy
dogmans course and formulas of weight loads.......... and OMG!! algebra!!!! NNNNNOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! (echo echo echo )
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:38 pm
by Bryn Mawr
fuzzywuzzy;1388059 wrote: dogmans course and formulas of weight loads.......... and OMG!! algebra!!!! NNNNNOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! (echo echo echo )
That is *not* what is known as Dogging over here!
Tipping limits and SWL limits for cables shouldn't be too bad - it's the sign language I'd struggle with.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:50 pm
by Bryn Mawr
Wheee - lovely site :-
Rigging Training - dogman
Thank you, I can use this - it'll be far better than guessing and hoping I've over-egged it

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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:54 pm
by fuzzywuzzy
Bryn Mawr;1388061 wrote: That is *not* what is known as Dogging over here!
Tipping limits and SWL limits for cables shouldn't be too bad - it's the sign language I'd struggle with.
signs and whistles I have no problem with. Iv'e been warned that the first two days is all maths and then a test at the end. I'm a guestimator ..I'm one of those people who can look at somthing and say "nope not right undo it" I don't know why it doesn't look right it just doesn't . I have no confidence in formulas to many variables in the real world.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:58 pm
by fuzzywuzzy
Actually my fiancee is about to put up a flag pole in his front garden soon. He told me how he's going to do it... I asked if I could film it . He said "yep, to show the world how it's done?" I said "nope, I want to make a Occupational health and safety training video. :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:00 pm
by Bryn Mawr
fuzzywuzzy;1388069 wrote: signs and whistles I have no problem with. Iv'e been warned that the first two days is all maths and then a test at the end. I'm a guestimator ..I'm one of those people who can look at somthing and say "nope not right undo it" I don't know why it doesn't look right it just doesn't . I have no confidence in formulas to many variables in the real world.
I presume you'll have access to the tables and not have to remember the load factors for each type of hitch for each angle.
Given those, the maths is easy - relying on memorising the factors would be a recipe for disaster.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:01 pm
by Bryn Mawr
fuzzywuzzy;1388071 wrote: Actually my fiancee is about to put up a flag pole in his front garden soon. He told me how he's going to do it... I asked if I could film it . He said "yep, to show the world how it's done?" I said "nope, I want to make a Occupational health and safety training video. :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Start as you mean to go on :wah:
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:08 pm
by fuzzywuzzy
it was actually a funny conversation His comeback was "we better do it right then , all on the day have to wear thongs(flip flops) and singlets. No hardhats required because nothing will go wrong" He says that while we standing at the point of a giant hole in his front garden during what would be considered gale force winds...*shudders* I'll have the camera on Zoom me thinks cause i'm not standing near it. One time in my life where I'm happy to make the pot of tea. lol
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:10 pm
by fuzzywuzzy
Bryn Mawr;1388072 wrote: I presume you'll have access to the tables and not have to remember the load factors for each type of hitch for each angle.
Given those, the maths is easy - relying on memorising the factors would be a recipe for disaster.
It's my belief that 60 90 and 120 are the most common angles to use so if you stick with that it can be done in your head. But I'm sure on Monday that belief will be smashed to smitherenes.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:21 pm
by Bryn Mawr
fuzzywuzzy;1388076 wrote: It's my belief that 60 90 and 120 are the most common angles to use so if you stick with that it can be done in your head. But I'm sure on Monday that belief will be smashed to smitherenes.
Well the very best of luck to you - you'll need it.
If they're the common angles in real life then the B's are likely to test you on everything but, just to be sure you know it all
Not that I'm trying to worry you or anything
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:35 pm
by fuzzywuzzy
See this is what I mean. Take hooks for example if your line is straight through the middle it will carry 100% of the load under it's capacity to carry that load. If the angle changes then the WL capacity falls by percentages. If angled incorrectly it falls below 40% so all hooks are are attached facing outwards from the load to give it the straight line...... That I understand..... a bunch of figures on a page makes no sense whatsever.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:40 pm
by Bryn Mawr
fuzzywuzzy;1388079 wrote: See this is what I mean. Take hooks for example if your line is straight through the middle it will carry 100% of the load under it's capacity to carry that load. If the angle changes then the WL capacity falls by percentages. If angled incorrectly it falls below 40% so all hooks are are attached facing outwards from the load to give it the straight line...... That I understand..... a bunch of figures on a page makes no sense whatsever.
The balance I find harder is calculating the best spread to use - the wider the more stable but the lower the weight limit so do you work from the available cable or is there an optimum spread angle and you find the cable required from that? If so then why the huge range of angles in the tables?
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:31 am
by Bruv
fuzzywuzzy;1388071 wrote: Actually my fiancee is.............. l
.........hark at her.........................
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:05 pm
by Bryn Mawr
How did the maths go - did you survive the experience?