Julian Castro to deliver DNC Keynote Address

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:05 pm

My city's mayor has been picked to deliver the keynote address at the National Democratic Convention.

Julian Castro, Democratic National Convention Keynote Speaker, Shows Party's Focus On Latinos

For the party that's against racism, they sure seem to be obsessed with race.

BTW, the name is pronounced "Huliahn" for those not from these parts.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:54 pm

What do you think of him as your mayor?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:11 pm

AnneBoleyn;1399550 wrote: What do you think of him as your mayor?
Garden-variety lib. Banned smoking everywhere he could since he's a non-smoker; even tried to outlaw people smoking in their own front yard if a parade was passing by. He's currently trying to force a public rail system in a city that can't get people to ride the buses already provided. Hasn't seen a spending bill he doesn't like.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:33 am

Accountable;1399554 wrote: Garden-variety lib. Banned smoking everywhere he could since he's a non-smoker; even tried to outlaw people smoking in their own front yard if a parade was passing by. He's currently trying to force a public rail system in a city that can't get people to ride the buses already provided. Hasn't seen a spending bill he doesn't like.
You'd never survive living as I do in Bloomberg City. He's now trying to ban baby forumula from hospitals unless the mother has a doctor's prescription! The nurses have been instructed to lecture & guilt new moms into breastfeeding only. Of course, being such a very smart billionaire, Michael Bloomberg knows what is best for all of us & I have no right to question his decisions made so kindly on my behalf. Excuse me while I go genuflect in his direction.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:38 am

:wah: No, I don't think I'd make it there, even if I could make it anywhere. :yh_wink

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:58 am

It's up to you accountable accountable. Name so nice I said it twice.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:59 am

Does it bother you that your mayor pronounces his name as beginning with H/not J? If so, why?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:59 pm

AnneBoleyn;1399574 wrote: Does it bother you that your mayor pronounces his name as beginning with H/not J? If so, why?Not in the least. I only mentioned it because it's not the common way of pronouncing his name in most US communities. It's actually polite to ask, around here.

Jesus

Jorge

Xavier

These and several more have more than one pronunciation.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:38 am

I don't recall ever seeing Xavier... it's usually Javier. With that pronunciation anyway.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:25 am

It's wierd sometimes. Two Alexandras in one classroom can pronounce their names differently. My co-worker Jorge pronounces his name George and won't respond if you call him HorHe.

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:28 pm

I'm confused as to why inviting the mayor to speak is promoting racism.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:50 pm

Accountable;1399546 wrote: My city's mayor has been picked to deliver the keynote address at the National Democratic Convention.

Julian Castro, Democratic National Convention Keynote Speaker, Shows Party's Focus On Latinos

For the party that's against racism, they sure seem to be obsessed with race.

BTW, the name is pronounced "Huliahn" for those not from these parts.

Wandrin;1399583 wrote: I'm confused as to why inviting the mayor to speak is promoting racism.
I'm confused as to why you think anyone claimed that inviting the mayor to speak is promoting racism. I re-read the entire thread and didn't see it anywhere.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:16 pm

I have a question and I don't mean for it to be racist. Are the Latinos the only ones to name kids after dieties? Jesus?

yaaarrrgg · Post by **yaaarrrgg** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:28 pm

Accountable;1399546 wrote: My city's mayor has been picked to deliver the keynote address at the National Democratic Convention.

Julian Castro, Democratic National Convention Keynote Speaker, Shows Party's Focus On Latinos

For the party that's against racism, they sure seem to be obsessed with race.

BTW, the name is pronounced "Huliahn" for those not from these parts.

Is it racism, or a response to racism? The GOP has done almost everything it can possibly do to alienate minorities. If you are not in the majority demographic, you will be made to feel unwelcome in the GOP. They might as well put up a sign that says "whites only."

Democratic politicians are in the business of winning elections, and have taken the approach of approaching the people the GOP is driving away with open arms. The GOP has miscalculated though, in that a large group of minorities end up forming the majority.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:09 am

yaaarrrgg;1399591 wrote: Is it racism, or a response to racism? The GOP has done almost everything it can possibly do to alienate minorities. If you are not in the majority demographic, you will be made to feel unwelcome in the GOP. They might as well put up a sign that says "whites only."
Awful strong accusation without offering the first hint of evidence. Standard fare for a partisan.

yaaarrrgg · Post by **yaaarrrgg** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:52 am

Accountable;1399601 wrote: Awful strong accusation without offering the first hint of evidence. Standard fare for a partisan.

I didn't think I needed to re-post the link detailing the Southern Strategy again.

If you use your own eyeballs and ears, it should be pretty obvious why the GOP has dwindling support across most all minority groups. They've spent this week beating up on gay people.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:43 am

yaaarrrgg;1399604 wrote: I didn't think I needed to re-post the link detailing the Southern Strategy again. Not to bruise your ego, but I don't read your every post. Your link didn't refer to the 2012 campaigns at all, so you still haven't supported your wild accusation that "[T]he GOP has done almost everything it can possibly do to alienate minorities." Do you have anything recent?

yaaarrrgg;1399604 wrote: If you use your own eyeballs and ears, it should be pretty obvious why the GOP has dwindling support across most all minority groups.It's not even obvious that their support is dwindling.

yaaarrrgg;1399604 wrote: They've spent this week beating up on gay people.(ignoring the pretty obvious fact that there is no homosexual race) -- How?

yaaarrrgg · Post by **yaaarrrgg** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:22 pm

Accountable;1399613 wrote: Not to bruise your ego, but I don't read your every post. Your link didn't refer to the 2012 campaigns at all, so you still haven't supported your wild accusation that "[T]he GOP has done almost everything it can possibly do to alienate minorities." Do you have anything recent?

LOL... you also haven't been following the news. If need more references:

GOP latino rhetoric

Accountable;1399613 wrote: It's not even obvious that their support is dwindling.

(ignoring the pretty obvious fact that there is no homosexual race) -- How?

Have you been following the Chic Fil a story this week? The net result is the GOP pandered to it's white evangelical base, at the expense of alienating gay Americans even more. It's pretty bad when the vice presidential candidate does a photo op to support homophobia. The democrats will welcome the gay voters too.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:38 pm

yaaarrrgg;1399619 wrote: LOL... you also haven't been following the news. If need more references:

GOP latino rhetoricI don't generally count opinion pieces as news, but if you do, okay. This is exactly what I'm talking about: this obsession with race that you partisans have, especially you dems. You seem to think that all Latinos are alike, when the designation covers indigenous Americans, Pacific Islanders, US-born Americans who've never spoken a word of Spanish or gone to Catholic church, etc etc etc (and there's a ton of et ceteras in this category).

Do you think all Latinos are Catholic?

Do you think all Latinos are poor?

Do you think all Latinos support open borders?

Do you think all Latinos support aid/assistance for illegal aliens? Oops, sorry. That's undocumented immigrants now, isn't it?

Do you think all Latinos are illiterate or poorly educated?

Do you think all Latinos support a welfare state?

Are Latinos pro- or anti- gun control? Abortion? School vouchers? Universal healthcare?

Are all Latinos liberal or conservative? Maybe they're all libertarian, but be damn sure that they're all something so they can fit in your prejudicial little cubby holes.

yaaarrrgg;1399619 wrote: Have you been following the Chic Fil a story this week? The net result is the GOP pandered to it's white evangelical base, at the expense of alienating gay Americans even more. It's pretty bad when the vice presidential candidate does a photo op to support homophobia. The democrats will welcome the gay voters too.So now the CEO of a fast food chain is all of the GOP? Are you capable of thinking of people as people rather than categories?

You're an intelligent person. Stereotyping is lazy, no matter what spirit you do it in. Stop it.

The very party that Mayor Castro claims treats him cheaply.

Mayor Castro graduated from Stanford University with honors and distinction and earned a juris doctorate from Harvard Law School. He's very proud of calling himself a product of public education.

Mayor Julián Castro is the youngest mayor of a Top 50 American city. San Antonio is number SEVEN on that list. He's still the youngest even though he is in his second term. He won reelection with 82 percent of the vote. Effective? In 2011, the Milken Institute ranked San Antonio the nation’s top-performing local economy.

Julian Castro is an impressive individual worthy of distinction and great respect, full stop. Yet what's the most important feature you dems want to point out? Latino! Anybody with a brain knows his heritage by his name. If that's not enough, the truly brain dead can look at a color photo.

To ignore all that this man has accomplished in his short lifetime and claim that his most notable accomplishment making him worthy of speaking at the national convention - the keynote speech no less - is that he has dark skin and a Spanish surname ... that's truly shallow.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:12 pm

Accountable;1399554 wrote: Garden-variety lib. Banned smoking everywhere he could since he's a non-smoker; even tried to outlaw people smoking in their own front yard if a parade was passing by. He's currently trying to force a public rail system in a city that can't get people to ride the buses already provided. Hasn't seen a spending bill he doesn't like.I'm curious; are you a fly on a wall or a mind reader?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:17 pm

Accountable;1399623 wrote: I don't generally count opinion pieces as news, but if you do, okay. This is exactly what I'm talking about: this obsession with race that you partisans have, especially you dems. You seem to think that all Latinos are alike, when the designation covers indigenous Americans, Pacific Islanders, US-born Americans who've never spoken a word of Spanish or gone to Catholic church, etc etc etc (and there's a ton of et ceteras in this category).

Do you think all Latinos are Catholic?

Do you think all Latinos are poor?

Do you think all Latinos support open borders?

Do you think all Latinos support aid/assistance for illegal aliens? Oops, sorry. That's undocumented immigrants now, isn't it?

Do you think all Latinos are illiterate or poorly educated?

Do you think all Latinos support a welfare state?

Are Latinos pro- or anti- gun control? Abortion? School vouchers? Universal healthcare?

Are all Latinos liberal or conservative? Maybe they're all libertarian, but be damn sure that they're all something so they can fit in your prejudicial little cubby holes.

So now the CEO of a fast food chain is all of the GOP? Are you capable of thinking of people as people rather than categories?

You're an intelligent person. Stereotyping is lazy, no matter what spirit you do it in. Stop it.

The very party that Mayor Castro claims treats him cheaply.

Mayor Castro graduated from Stanford University with honors and distinction and earned a juris doctorate from Harvard Law School. He's very proud of calling himself a product of public education.

Mayor Julián Castro is the youngest mayor of a Top 50 American city. San Antonio is number SEVEN on that list. He's still the youngest even though he is in his second term. He won reelection with 82 percent of the vote. Effective? In 2011, the Milken Institute ranked San Antonio the nation’s top-performing local economy.

Julian Castro is an impressive individual worthy of distinction and great respect, full stop. Yet what's the most important feature you dems want to point out? Latino! Anybody with a brain knows his heritage by his name. If that's not enough, the truly brain dead can look at a color photo.

To ignore all that this man has accomplished in his short lifetime and claim that his most notable accomplishment making him worthy of speaking at the national convention - the keynote speech no less - is that he has dark skin and a Spanish surname ... that's truly shallow.This is similar to how you generalize about democrats and republicans in order to rationalize your political positions. IOW - you're projecting....again.

yaaarrrgg · Post by **yaaarrrgg** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:38 pm

Accountable;1399623 wrote: I don't generally count opinion pieces as news, but if you do, okay. This is exactly what I'm talking about: this obsession with race that you partisans have, especially you dems. You seem to think that all Latinos are alike...

There are some hard facts in those links. For example:

"Latino voters nationwide would back Obama over Romney by 67 percent to 25 percent."

The trend is what is real, not the commonality between the people.

What is your explanation for this? What is driving this group out of the GOP?

Accountable;1399623 wrote:

So now the CEO of a fast food chain is all of the GOP? Are you capable of thinking of people as people rather than categories?

Several GOP presidential candidates and the previous vice presidential candidate stepped up to support Cathy's homophobic statements and donations. It's not just Cathy, but the top-level of the GOP leadership that's projecting this message too. I bet you'll find GOP support with gay voters around single digits.

Accountable;1399623 wrote: The very party that Mayor Castro claims treats him cheaply.

He's got an impressive background. I don't think his heritage is the only reason he's been picked. Democrats are trying to be the "big-tent" party. As time goes on I'd predict they may pick a gay person, or a female. They aren't preoccupied with race in itself, as much as grabbing all the voters that have been forced out of the GOP tent.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:45 pm

As time goes on I'd predict they may pick a gay person, or a female.

Females still last, even behind gay men, excuse me, person. That's rich. How much time? We had one already, if Hillary Clinton wasn't good enough, who is?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:08 pm

Ahso!;1399628 wrote: This is similar to how you generalize about democrats and republicans in order to rationalize your political positions. IOW - you're projecting....again.
Get your panties out of a wad. Dems and repubs are not ethnic groups; they are voluntary political affiliations. Big difference.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:23 pm

yaaarrrgg;1399629 wrote: There are some hard facts in those links. For example:

"Latino voters nationwide would back Obama over Romney by 67 percent to 25 percent."Facts don't include the word "would".

yaaarrrgg;1399629 wrote: He's got an impressive background. I don't think his heritage is the only reason he's been picked. Democrats are trying to be the "big-tent" party. As time goes on I'd predict they may pick a gay person, or a female. They aren't preoccupied with race in itself, as much as grabbing all the voters that have been forced out of the GOP tent.Of course his heritage is the only reason he's been picked. You can't possibly be that naive. If he were a white heterosexual he'd be sitting at home, even with twice the pedigree. The Latino population is the fastest growing demo. Castro's ancestry is Mexican. That fits the cubby.

Of course they'll pick a gay person - oops again - a GLBT to speak, but you'll have to dig to find out anything beyond the person's sexual preference.

As for women, DNC's been there done that:

Eleanor Rosevelt, 1956

Barbara Jordon, 1976

Ann Richards, 1988

List of Democratic National Conventions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

yaaarrrgg · Post by **yaaarrrgg** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:24 pm

AnneBoleyn;1399630 wrote: As time goes on I'd predict they may pick a gay person, or a female.

Females still last, even behind gay men, excuse me, person. That's rich. How much time? We had one already, if Hillary Clinton wasn't good enough, who is?

I would like to see more females in public office too.

I didn't list those groups in order of importance. Also, I'm not talking about running for president, but the keynote speaker. I mentioned gay first because they've been attacked the most in the last week. It would be a political calculation, and mostly an empty gesture that "hey, this party isn't homophobic, your votes are welcome here."

As for running for president, I think straight/bisexual/lesbian females are much more electable than gay male politicians. Most gay politicians are in still the closet I think. The U.S. is more discriminatory against the gay male than gay female.

yaaarrrgg · Post by **yaaarrrgg** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:26 pm

Accountable;1399632 wrote: Facts don't include the word "would".

Is that a fact?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:32 pm

:wah:

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:52 pm

I'm still confused as to why it is assumed that the only reason that he was selected is his ethnicity. If his city is doing well, that's a rarity. If he is a proud product of public education, that is a reasonable reason. He sounds like a rising star in politics.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:31 pm

Accountable;1399631 wrote: Get your panties out of a wad. Dems and repubs are not ethnic groups; they are voluntary political affiliations. Big difference.You're bigoted based on political party affiliation.

You missed my first post, didn't you? It's the last post on the first page.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:14 pm

Ahso!;1399638 wrote: You're bigoted based on political party affiliation.

You missed my first post, didn't you? It's the last post on the first page.
You're trying to make this about me with baseless accusation. I'd rather stick to the subject.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:31 pm

Be ACCOUNTABLE for your own bigotry. You accuse everyone else of it. Accountable;1399554 wrote: Garden-variety lib. Banned smoking everywhere he could since he's a non-smoker; Where's your proof of this, Bigot? Accountable;1399554 wrote: He's currently trying to force a public rail systemAny proof, Bigot? Accountable;1399554 wrote: Hasn't seen a spending bill he doesn't like.Now you're a bigoted mind reader?

Face it, you paint with a broad brush because this person is a democrat.

Pony up, BIGOT!

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:35 pm

Accountable;1399643 wrote: You're trying to make this about me with baseless accusation. I'd rather stick to the subject.No, Bigot, you do that when you offer up your bullsh!t accusations which have no merit whatsoever.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:15 am

Ahso!;1399644 wrote: Be ACCOUNTABLE for your own bigotry.
big·ot [big-uht] Show IPA

noun

a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

Bigot | Define Bigot at Dictionary.com

Doesn't exactly fit, does it? However, I am bigoted against Republicrat partisans. But that's not what this is about, is it? This is personal.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:51 am

Accountable;1399650 wrote: big·ot [big-uht] Show IPA

noun

a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

Bigot | Define Bigot at Dictionary.com

Doesn't exactly fit, does it? However, I am bigoted against Republicrat partisans. But that's not what this is about, is it? This is personal.Not personal in the least. And the definition fits.

Why not explain to us how you know this person has: a) never seen a spending bill he didn't like; b) banned smoking everywhere he can since he's a non-smoker? Which makes him a garden variety lib, right?

The only member in this thread cheapening this person is you. Bigot! Then you go on and accuse everyone else of doing what you yourself have done. That's called projecting.

Have I made it clear enough to you yet?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:06 am

Ahso!;1399651 wrote: Not personal in the least.Come now, RJ. You saw the conversation between your buddy Yaarg and I, and you decided to take offense on behalf of your friend and ride in to the rescue. It's very personal and very sweet. I'm sure Yaarg is impressed.

Now back to the subject of the thread. Do you not think that Mayor Castro was selected to give the keynote speech more for his ethnicity than his unquestionably stellar qualifications?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:35 am

Accountable;1399653 wrote: Come now, RJ. You saw the conversation between your buddy Yaarg and I, and you decided to take offense on behalf of your friend and ride in to the rescue. It's very personal and very sweet. I'm sure Yaarg is impressed.

Now back to the subject of the thread. Do you not think that Mayor Castro was selected to give the keynote speech more for his ethnicity than his unquestionably stellar qualifications?So that would be your way of telling us that you're not going to explain yourself?

The only one making this personal is you.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:26 pm

Do you not think that Mayor Castro was selected to give the keynote speech more for his ethnicity than his unquestionably stellar qualifications?
I don't know your mayor yet, & will consider this during the convention, but my guess is "Both". They wanted an hispanic, but they wanted one who is eminently qualified who they are predicting will be successful for national office. I first saw Bill Clinton during a convention, when he was governor of Arkansas, & that memory stayed with the public (remember how long his speech was? it bacame a joke); Barack Obama had the same role for the same reasons. A political beauty contest. Thanks, Accountable, now I am more curious to watch the event.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:39 am

Here's a much more logical analysis. Hopefully, I took the Huffington Post and mistakenly generalized it to the dem party leadership. Hopefully, this reflects the thinking more accurately.

New York Times reporter Michael D. Shear nearly hit the target when he wrote that the speech “could serve as a national introduction for Mr. Castro as he pursues a political career outside Texas.”

What Shear didn't get was that Texas is so big that the most efficient way to give someone a statewide introduction is on a national stage. That's one reason no mayor has been elected governor of Texas in modern times. Castro, say sources, would prefer to stay in Texas, and national Democratic leaders should want him to. Senators and cabinet members are in no position to build a state party. A governor is. Read more: Castro's national attention could bring statewide benefits - San Antonio Express-News

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:45 am

I was really impressed with your mayor, accountable. A rousing speech. I'll be on the lookout for him.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:14 pm

AnneBoleyn;1403370 wrote: I was really impressed with your mayor, accountable. A rousing speech. I'll be on the lookout for him.

He's the new Golden Boy alright. Look for him to be the new VP in a couple of years.

I was watching tonight.

Gotta tell ya. It takes some kinda balls to parade out someone that is actively defying federal law to endorse the guy that's supposed to be enforcing it.

And to bring out the GM guy to praise Obama for bailing them out without mentioning the 10K layoffs, then follow immediately with some Bain people that were part of the hundreds Romney laid off.

Balls man. Balls.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:35 am

I don't think a clearer example exists to demonstrate how much contempt the Democrat Party holds for the Rule of Law. When following their own written rules stand in the way of what they want to do, they simply ignore it and move forward.

President Obama showed similar contempt by not enforcing our immigration laws, as did Congress by not starting impeachment proceedings on him. This is not to say the repubs are less despicable in this regard, only that the dems don't mind doing it publicly on national television.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:58 pm

Accountable;1403481 wrote: He's the new Golden Boy alright. Look for him to be the new VP in a couple of years.

I was watching tonight.

Gotta tell ya. It takes some kinda balls to parade out someone that is actively defying federal law to endorse the guy that's supposed to be enforcing it.

That's exactly what I was thinking, that in four years Castro will be nominated as VP. About your last paragraph above, how is Castro defying fed law? I do notice many mayors, especially in the larger cities, are "sanctuary-city" mayors. Is that what you mean? Mayors love that underground economy stuff, even if it means Illegal Labor who do not pay taxes, but generally work "off the books". I'm not offering an opinion about that here, it's the way I've seen life flow in the five boroughs of NYC my entire life. Just want to be clear on what you mean.

On another forum, the consensus seems to be that while fun, discussion of politics is a waste of time, that no one's mind is ever changed, that no one is swayed & people are just entrenched in their own POV.

While I get so involved every four years I kinda wish I didn't.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:43 pm

President Obama showed similar contempt by not enforcing our immigration laws, as did Congress by not starting impeachment proceedings on him. This is not to say the repubs are less despicable in this regard, only that the dems don't mind doing it publicly on national television.

Do you call for impeachment for Republican presidents or only for Democratic? Oh, yes, a tea party Congress going to impeach Obama, how great that would be for all concerned, why didn't I think of that?

I'm sick of that BS, using impeachment. High crimes & misdemeanors only please. Not selective impeachment by Republicans. You are close enough to being a Republican so the shoe fits.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:04 pm

AnneBoleyn;1403518 wrote: That's exactly what I was thinking, that in four years Castro will be nominated as VP. About your last paragraph above, how is Castro defying fed law? I do notice many mayors, especially in the larger cities, are "sanctuary-city" mayors. Is that what you mean? Mayors love that underground economy stuff, even if it means Illegal Labor who do not pay taxes, but generally work "off the books". I'm not offering an opinion about that here, it's the way I've seen life flow in the five boroughs of NYC my entire life. Just want to be clear on what you mean.Sorry, I changed subjects without signalling. I was referring to Benita Veliz - a proud and productive product of San Antonio public schools.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:07 pm

AnneBoleyn;1403526 wrote: Do you call for impeachment for Republican presidents or only for Democratic? Oh, yes, a tea party Congress going to impeach Obama, how great that would be for all concerned, why didn't I think of that?

I'm sick of that BS, using impeachment. High crimes & misdemeanors only please. Not selective impeachment by Republicans. You are close enough to being a Republican so the shoe fits.
Partisanship doesn't become you. I thought you above that. President Bush should have been impeached for signing the "Patriot" Act *spits*, especially since he acknowledged before signing that he believed it to be unconstitutional.

eta: I would say that publicly refusing to perform duties specifically required of the President by the Constitution he swore to obey, specifically "he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed," justifies impeachment.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:38 am

Partisanship doesn't become you. I thought you above that.
:yh_cry

I'll be better next time, honest I will! :yh_peace

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:42 pm

:wah: