The garbage that salon.com is...

halfway · Post by **halfway** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:16 am

And people complain of biased media.

salon.com is a politically biased propaganda machine cherry picking tidbits of facts to persuade the truly ignorant. Unfortunately, there are people who know how to think.

This far left ideologue lacks any substantial journalism and uses nothing more than hand-selected political hacks, hearsay and deceitful rhetoric to attempt to demonize those that disagree with their world view as opposed to sharing and reporting information. But since it is a political outlet, it should proclaim it's position and ratchet up the spin.

It is an attack dog outlet much the same as the huffington post and move on. Yet another home for wayward socialists and derelicts to express their hate and narrow-mindedness.

Goebbels and Stalin would be proud of this partisan propaganda.

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Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:19 am

halfway;1416572 wrote: And people complain of biased media.

salon.com is a politically biased propaganda machine cherry picking tidbits of facts to persuade the truly ignorant. Unfortunately, there are people who know how to think.

This far left ideologue lacks any substantial journalism and uses nothing more than hand-selected political hacks, hearsay and deceitful rhetoric to attempt to demonize those that disagree with their world view as opposed to sharing and reporting information. But since it is a political outlet, it should proclaim it's position and ratchet up the spin.

It is an attack dog outlet much the same as the huffington post and move on. Yet another home for wayward socialists and derelicts to express their hate and narrow-mindedness.

Goebbels and Stalin would be proud of this partisan propaganda.

Disclaimer: Due to recent attacks by friendly members of this forum, this disclaimer is needed. The above statement was made by me and cannot be verified as true with wiki link, video, scientific study, personal verification, multiple witnesses or actual verbal communication. It is in fact an observation or an experienced opinion gathered over time and presented as a point of discussion.

In light of that, treat the statement as completely false, full of hidden political overtones, stabs at sexism, racism, bigotry, religious fanaticism, conservatism, marxism, nazisim, liberalism, fascism, utopianism, pantysinabindism, gonnatakealeakism, and general don'tknowwhatthehellI'mtalkingabouOkay. Where then should we get our news in your opinion? I'd love some better sources that are truly honest and have high standards of journalism.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:42 am

FOX News is a politically biased propaganda machine cherry picking tidbits of facts to persuade the truly ignorant. Unfortunately, there are people who know how to think.

This far right ideologue lacks any substantial journalism and uses nothing more than hand-selected political hacks, hearsay and deceitful rhetoric to attempt to demonize those that disagree with their world view as opposed to sharing and reporting information. But since it is a political outlet, it should proclaim it's position and ratchet up the spin.

Post by **LarsMac** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:07 am

All news media outlets have a political bias.

Simple enough.

Scan the spectrum, and sort out all the editorializing.

halfway · Post by **halfway** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:10 am

LarsMac;1416584 wrote: All news media outlets have a political bias.

Simple enough.

Scan the spectrum, and sort out all the editorializing.

What???? When did this happen??

Well, this much is obvious and has not changed through time. The point was the sole purpose as an attack dog and propaganda machine. Some are obvious and cannot be used as a reliable source for anyone seeking truth. Unless they are only seeking validation of their beliefs.

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In light of that, treat the statement as completely false, full of hidden political overtones, stabs at sexism, racism, bigotry, religious fanaticism, conservatism, marxism, nazisim, liberalism, fascism, utopianism, pantysinabindism, gonnatakealeakism, and general don'tknowwhatthehellI'mtalkingabou

Post by **LarsMac** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:14 am

halfway;1416587 wrote: What???? When did this happen??

Well, this much is obvious and has not changed through time. The point was the sole purpose as an attack dog and propaganda machine. Some are obvious and cannot be used as a reliable source for anyone seeking truth. Unless they are only seeking validation of their beliefs.

Disclaimer: Due to recent attacks by friendly members of this forum, this disclaimer is needed. The above statement was made by me and cannot be verified as true with wiki link, video, scientific study, personal verification, multiple witnesses or actual verbal communication. It is in fact an observation or an experienced opinion gathered over time and presented as a point of discussion.

In light of that, treat the statement as completely false, full of hidden political overtones, stabs at sexism, racism, bigotry, religious fanaticism, conservatism, marxism, nazisim, liberalism, fascism, utopianism, pantysinabindism, gonnatakealeakism, and general don'tknowwhatthehellI'mtalkingabou

True enough.

Whenever I see some "News Source" shared on a forum, I go look up other reports on the incident and see if there is more to the story.

If I cannot find anything anywhere else, I dismiss it, and move on.

Post by **LarsMac** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:17 am

And I agree with you on this particular site.

It seems to be more of a collection of opinions than a reliable "news source"

Not unlike a lot of those other sources people like to quote.

halfway · Post by **halfway** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:17 am

LarsMac;1416589 wrote: True enough.

Whenever I see some "News Source" shared on a forum, I go look up other reports on the incident and see if there is more to the story.

If I cannot find anything anywhere else, I dismiss it, and move on.

Wisdom.

Disclaimer: Due to recent attacks by friendly members of this forum, this disclaimer is needed. The above statement was made by me and cannot be verified as true with wiki link, video, scientific study, personal verification, multiple witnesses or actual verbal communication. It is in fact an observation or an experienced opinion gathered over time and presented as a point of discussion.

In light of that, treat the statement as completely false, full of hidden political overtones, stabs at sexism, racism, bigotry, religious fanaticism, conservatism, marxism, nazisim, liberalism, fascism, utopianism, pantysinabindism, gonnatakealeakism, and general don'tknowwhatthehellI'mtalkingabou

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:43 pm

Depends what the opinion is based on. Does the opinion piece offer citations that are credible and can be verified. Salon provides that. It isn't required to agree with the author's opinion, indeed, the idea is to try and disprove it if possible. We've yet to even find out, outside of FOX News, what HW recommends as a news source for either fact based opinion or simple reporting.

Any half-wit can write an op like the one in this thread without offering reasonable analysis for what they write. HW has a habit of doing just that, though. I assume HW doesn't read much from Salon, so a reasonable question might be: unless you do enough reading of Salon, how is it you know how bad the site is? I won't get an answer to that because HW doesn't answer questions, he writes disclaimers instead. Intellectually disingenuous to say the least.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:14 pm

Ahso!;1416626 wrote: Depends what the opinion is based on. Does the opinion piece offer citations that are credible and can be verified. Salon provides that. It isn't required to agree with the author's opinion, indeed, the idea is to try and disprove it if possible. We've yet to even find out, outside of FOX News, what HW recommends as a news source for either fact based opinion or simple reporting.

Any half-wit can write an op like the one in this thread without offering reasonable analysis for what they write. HW has a habit of doing just that, though. I assume HW doesn't read much from Salon, so a reasonable question might be: unless you do enough reading of Salon, how is it you know how bad the site is? I won't get an answer to that because HW doesn't answer questions, he writes disclaimers instead. Intellectually disingenuous to say the least.

Yy.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:20 pm

Okay. Now tell me why.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:47 pm

LarsMac;1416591 wrote: And I agree with you on this particular site.

It seems to be more of a collection of opinions than a reliable "news source"

Not unlike a lot of those other sources people like to quote.

Well said.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:41 am

tude dog;1416652 wrote: Well said.This isn't Facebook, TD. Do your cheering elsewhere.

(that should get a few more "well saids")

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:34 am

Never heard of them. Try these three

On air — RT

AJE - Al Jazeera English

BBC News - Home

The last one might freak you out a bit - no adverts so you need to be able to concentrate for more than five minutes at a time.

Good grief there are socialists in america

Socialist Workers Party candidate calls for voters to reject major parties that don’t represent their interests | Des Moines Register Staff Blogs

Isn't iowa where captain kirk came from or was that idaho or something

halfway · Post by **halfway** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:59 am

LarsMac;1416591 wrote: And I agree with you on this particular site.

It seems to be more of a collection of opinions than a reliable "news source"

Not unlike a lot of those other sources people like to quote.

Hmmm...someone's gonna want about 50 links as proof of what you say, your tax returns, dna sample, and complete voting history. At that point, the monkey will likely divert yet again with a red herring so buckle up!

In all seriousness, yes, it is an attack dog outlet much like huff post. They are a dime a dozen and do not generate much credibility beyond the tabloid surfers.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:48 pm

Ahso!;1416728 wrote: This isn't Facebook, TD. Do your cheering elsewhere.

(that should get a few more "well saids")

And your post is so insightful.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:02 pm

halfway;1416746 wrote: Hmmm...someone's gonna want about 50 links as proof of what you say, your tax returns, dna sample, and complete voting history. At that point, the monkey will likely divert yet again with a red herring so buckle up!

In all seriousness, yes, it is an attack dog outlet much like huff post. They are a dime a dozen and do not generate much credibility beyond the tabloid surfers.

Do you ever check the factual content or just assume it is all simply opinion?

Salon.com I have never heard off, huff post I thought was just as site that collated different writers and opinions. Only occasionally glanced at it. You might find this hard to believe but American politics are generally only interesting so far as they affect international politics or as a look in to what is after all a foreign country with a culture all it's own despite the surface similarities.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:03 pm

gmc;1417132 wrote: Do you ever check the factual content or just assume it is all simply opinion?

Salon.com I have never heard off, huff post I thought was just as site that collated different writers and opinions. Only occasionally glanced at it. You might find this hard to believe but American politics are generally only interesting so far as they affect international politics or as a look in to what is after all a foreign country with a culture all it's own despite the surface similarities.

I understand where you are coming from.

I am trying to be fair here. Huff Post is not the first place I go to for news, but is run by folk of the liberal bent, and their presentation shows that, with hefty liberal commentary. I only run into Salon where somebody wants to present a leftist commentary.

There are other sites, news sources which claim a more neutral presence of news commentary.

I find it best to stick with main stream media.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:46 pm

gmc;1417132 wrote: Do you ever check the factual content or just assume it is all simply opinion?

Salon.com I have never heard off, huff post I thought was just as site that collated different writers and opinions. Only occasionally glanced at it. You might find this hard to believe but American politics are generally only interesting so far as they affect international politics or as a look in to what is after all a foreign country with a culture all it's own despite the surface similarities.

Yes, that was the most refreshing thing of all when I lived in the U.K.....to truly discover we were not the center of the universe, that other people had concerns other than us.....to learn of a different focus on the things that are universal & all encompassing. So relaxing compared to the tumult that is us=U.S.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:22 pm

tude dog;1417148 wrote: I understand where you are coming from.

I am trying to be fair here. Huff Post is not the first place I go to for news, but is run by folk of the liberal bent, and their presentation shows that, with hefty liberal commentary. I only run into Salon where somebody wants to present a leftist commentary.

There are other sites, news sources which claim a more neutral presence of news commentary.

I find it best to stick with main stream media.

Interesting so you don't equate liberal with leftist or left wing?

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:21 pm

Interesting so you don't equate liberal with leftist or left wing?
Here it's not. Even though the word left is thrown around, there is no real left here & hasn't been for decades.