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I've always been quite a practical person. I know people get old and die. So the part that gets me, Is why do the good go early while evil people live so long?

I met Gary on Facebook through racing connections and mutual friends In the racing Industry three years ago.

We shared a passion for horse racing and would chat long In to the night discussing form on that live chat thingy.

Although I got to know him well, I never met him In real life but we often talked of my going to Ireland to stay with him and his family.

I got to know about his life, how he climbed Everest and all about his young twins.

Not one of my posts went unanswered with him always coming In with support where needed and a devastating sense of wit and Irony. He was the master of banter and badinage and never failed to make me laugh.

I noticed In his profile pictures that he was getting thinner and I did become a little suspicious when he unexpectedly posted me a rare, first edition book on horse racing from the 1930's. It was a wonderful surprise to get It In the post and he wrote Inside the book that he knew I'd be the one person who'd cherish It and that he sent It with love.

I noticed last night that he hadn't posted In a few days so I went to his profile to message him. To my horror, I found post after post of ' RIP Gary' from his friends.

His wife messaged me today and told me he'd been terminal. All through the years of daily banter, he never once mentioned It. He was just 57..

He was one of the most caring, funny, brave, warm men I have ever had the honour of knowing. Although I never got to meet him In real life, I feel bereft. I have lost such a shining light In my life.

Two young people have lost a wonderful Father. His wife has lost a wonderful husband and the saddest part was that his wife told me today that he hung on and hung on. His first baby Grandchild was born just 6 hours before he died.

Gary, I will miss you and remember you for the rest of my life.

Sorry members... I am venting here.... why oh why, do the good guys leave young? :-1

Things are beginning to stand out to me now... Him telling me when I'd got my tickets for the March Cheltenham Festival, that as my winners crossed the line, he'd be right beside me In spirit cheering them on with me.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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Good guys don't die any younger than evil guys. Condolences on your loss.
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AnneBoleyn;1467696 wrote: Good guys don't die any younger than evil guys. Condolences on your loss. It just seems so unfair Anne.
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Oscar Namechange;1467697 wrote: It just seems so unfair Anne.


You're right, it does.
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Oscar....it was a blessing you two met and shared a world that you both enjoyed. Sorry to hear your friend has passed. Cyber let's us reach out and touch people...sometimes for the good and sometimes not. This reach sounds like it was a good one.

And Anne is right...death doesn't really base itself on good or bad people...though it may seem that way many times...dying comes to all of us in our proper time.

Be grateful for knowing him and embrace his family in support.

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Remember the time you shared, and the light he was in your life, and remember, also, that you were a light in his life.

Just remember the light. What else really matters?
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That must have been a shock to you, Oscar. Don't even try to shake it off, it'll pass when it's time, leaving just the good memories of your friendship with Gary.

Sending love to you.
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Lady J;1467727 wrote:

Be grateful for knowing him and embrace his family in support.

:yh_hugs Thank you R... Just wish I'd met him 30 years ago... but I will be honoured for the rest of my days that he shared his life with me at the end.
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LarsMac;1467728 wrote: Remember the time you shared, and the light he was in your life, and remember, also, that you were a light in his life.

Just remember the light. What else really matters? Thank you Lars. Those are very comforting words to me. I still feel so at loss today.

As I said, I'm one of the most unsentimental people ever. I don't do all that and I've never ever been one who looks for signs.

The thing about Gary Is that his warmth shone like a diamond... I used to call him ' Diamond geezer'

Last night I went out to the Foxes about midnight and for the first time, I looked up at the sky. It was a dark and cloudy night and I could just make out one dim star behind the cloud. I thought to myself ' That's you Isn't It you bugger'... At that precise moment the cloud must have cleared and that star shone bright like a diamond.

Of course my husband thinks I've gone soft In the head now.
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theia;1467729 wrote: That must have been a shock to you, Oscar. Don't even try to shake it off, it'll pass when it's time, leaving just the good memories of your friendship with Gary.

Sending love to you.


Thank you Theia... Gary loved the Cheltenham Festival every year In March where champions meet champions. He couldn't make It this year and now I know why but he came across the Irish Sea every year prior for the Festival.

So, I'll wait until I am at the Festival next March and I'll place one extra bet on the horses, hopefully, If he runs, on Sprinter Sacre who he adored. I'll place a bet for him In his memory.
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As cold as my answer might seem ....

It just sums up to life .. when your number is up your number is up ....

Good, bad young, old rich or poor ..doesn't really matter you die life continues ...



I am sorry to hear about your loss ..time heals all wounds...
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"..time heals all wounds..."

Not necessarily. Cliche.
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Oscar Namechange;1467750 wrote: Thank you Lars. Those are very comforting words to me. I still feel so at loss today.

As I said, I'm one of the most unsentimental people ever. I don't do all that and I've never ever been one who looks for signs.

The thing about Gary Is that his warmth shone like a diamond... I used to call him ' Diamond geezer'

Last night I went out to the Foxes about midnight and for the first time, I looked up at the sky. It was a dark and cloudy night and I could just make out one dim star behind the cloud. I thought to myself ' That's you Isn't It you bugger'... At that precise moment the cloud must have cleared and that star shone bright like a diamond.

Of course my husband thinks I've gone soft In the head now.


All the words anyone can come up with are not going to help until you have worked it all out in your head. It takes time, and you have to ride through the emotions.

I think of myself as fairly unsentimental, as well, but I had a hard time with the passing of the old Mexican dishwasher I used to work with. His name was Carlos, and he was ancient. A Mestizo, who used to be a Rodeo horse and bull rider, and later when he was too old to ride the bulls, he worked as a clown. When I knew him, he was in his 70s and was one of those people who just made the world a better place because he was in it. I can never forget the sparkle in his old eyes. When he passed, I thought the world had just lost meaning.

It took a while to get over that. Now, I often hear his laugh when I become annoyed with trivial things. He still helps me keep my head.
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LarsMac;1467756 wrote: All the words anyone can come up with are not going to help until you have worked it all out in your head. It takes time, and you have to ride through the emotions.

I think of myself as fairly unsentimental, as well, but I had a hard time with the passing of the old Mexican dishwasher I used to work with. His name was Carlos, and he was ancient. A Mestizo, who used to be a Rodeo horse and bull rider, and later when he was too old to ride the bulls, he worked as a clown. When I knew him, he was in his 70s and was one of those people who just made the world a better place because he was in it. I can never forget the sparkle in his old eyes. When he passed, I thought the world had just lost meaning.

It took a while to get over that. Now, I often hear his laugh when I become annoyed with trivial things. He still helps me keep my head.


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LarsMac;1467756 wrote: All the words anyone can come up with are not going to help until you have worked it all out in your head. It takes time, and you have to ride through the emotions.

I think of myself as fairly unsentimental, as well, but I had a hard time with the passing of the old Mexican dishwasher I used to work with. His name was Carlos, and he was ancient. A Mestizo, who used to be a Rodeo horse and bull rider, and later when he was too old to ride the bulls, he worked as a clown. When I knew him, he was in his 70s and was one of those people who just made the world a better place because he was in it. I can never forget the sparkle in his old eyes. When he passed, I thought the world had just lost meaning.

It took a while to get over that. Now, I often hear his laugh when I become annoyed with trivial things. He still helps me keep my head. See, you have absolutely hit the nail on the head.

That so perfectly describes how someone you know can die and you're practical with It and another dies and because they made such an Impression In your life, had that extra special something, you will never forget them. Gary was like your Mexican dishwasher. He made the world a better place and I think It's because he made the world a better place, that I now think life Is going to be shyte without him. Few people who have come In to my life Influenced me In that way.
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sugarpuff;1467754 wrote: As cold as my answer might seem ....

It just sums up to life .. when your number is up your number is up ....

Good, bad young, old rich or poor ..doesn't really matter you die life continues ...



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Oh right. I'll stop crying now shall I ?

:yh_youkid:yh_youkid:yh_youkid :rolleyes:
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Why ??? everyone mourns differently ..

There is no time limit to sorrow ...

My parents dies over 25 years ago ...

I still cry .. and I missed them tremendously ..

Yet my life still went on ..

You asked why the good die young ..

All I said was rich , poor . old , young , good or bad ...

No matter what you will die ...

That doesn't mean you can't feel sadness .. or miss them

your emotions are just as normal as your dying ..
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sugarpuff;1467754 wrote: As cold as my answer might seem ....





..time heals all wounds...


I think that is true in a sense, but it does leave the scar for the rest of your own life.
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sugarpuff;1467761 wrote: Why ??? everyone mourns differently ..

There is no time limit to sorrow ...

My parents dies over 25 years ago ...

I still cry .. and I missed them tremendously ..

Yet my life still went on ..

You asked why the good die young ..

All I said was rich , poor . old , young , good or bad ...

No matter what you will die ...

That doesn't mean you can't feel sadness .. or miss them

your emotions are just as normal as your dying ..


My response to your first post Is what us Brits call Irony... It's a difficult concept to grasp, rather like a combination of sarcasm, sardonica and taking the piss, or what the Scottish call general conversation.
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Ohhhhhhh .. Okay .. I understand ...

Sorry for your loss ...
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sugarpuff;1467764 wrote: Ohhhhhhh .. Okay .. I understand ...

Sorry for your loss ...


He's not my loss.

He's a loss to his children, his wife, his first grandchild born 6 hours before he died. He's a loss to his team that climbed Everest and to the people of Belfast where he did so much for his community.

Gary made the world a better place. My only loss Is that my world Is a less better place without him In It. My loss can not be even remotely similar to those who knew and loved him.
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Oscar Namechange;1467777 wrote: He's not my loss.

He's a loss to his children, his wife, his first grandchild born 6 hours before he died. He's a loss to his team that climbed Everest and to the people of Belfast where he did so much for his community.

Gary made the world a better place. My only loss Is that my world Is a less better place without him In It. My loss can not be even remotely similar to those who knew and loved him.


Two weeks ago one of my dear cyber friends had passed on ...

We have chatted on web cam for years ...

He was from Ireland as well .. had two sons and grand children ..

When he passes away .. I considered it a loss ..I cared for him dearly ..

I guess the real losers are the ones that never got the opportunity to know him ..

A death is a loss to anyone that loved the person and cared about them ..
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